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During the events of God of War II, before Kratos dies from his injuries made by Zeus, Link suddenly stops by. He flips Kratos off and walks away. Being flipped off is one of the many insults Kratos will not stand. After Kratos destroyed the Greek Gods and the Titans, he sets off to Hyrule but before he got there, he meets giants who want to aid him in battle for no reason whatsoever. At Hyrule Castle, Link looks off into the distance and sees giant figures coming. On one of the shoulders of the giants is Kratos shouting "Link, I have returned, I bring the destruction of Hyrule!" and cue the End Begins music..

Kratos (GoWIII) has the Blades of Exile, Blade of Olympus, Claws of Hades, Nemean Cestus, Nemesis Whip, Golden Fleece, Head of Helios, Hermes Boots, and Bow of Apollo. The giants aiding Kratos will be all sixteen of the Colossi from Shadow of the Colossus.

This is Orcarina of Time Adult Link and has all weapons and equipment from OoT. He will be aided by Midna who has all pieces of the Fused Shadows, and Sheik (not the SSBB Sheik).


Will Link survive? Probably not but that's my opinion.

Nope... We ain't having this again.

Basically Link and Sheik vs Kratos if you ask me. Midna with all four Fused Shadows should be able to solo the colossi.

Shin: GEE, THERE SURE ARE ALOT OF SPITE THREADS AROUND HERE!
SHIN MAH BOI, THIS SPITE IS WHAT ALL TRUE TROLLERS STRIVE FOR!
Shin: I JUST WONDER WHAT NEMESIS IS UP TO.
YOUR MAJESTY, NEMESIS HAS CREATED ANOTHER SPITE THREAD
HOW CAN WE HELP?
IT IS WRITTEN, ONLY SHIN CAN TROLL NEMESIS
Shin: GREAT, I'LL GRAB MY BOOZE
THERE IS NO TIME, YOUR CALCS ARE ENOUGH
*Edited because there are no wmnz on the internet*
SQUADALAH, WE ARE OFF
Shin: WOW, WHAT ARE ALL THOSE THREADS?
THESE ARE THE SPITE THREADS OF EVIL, YOU MUST CONQUER EACH
Shin: I GUESS I BETTER GET TROLLING

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Shin: GEE, THERE SURE ARE ALOT OF SPITE THREADS AROUND HERE!
SHIN MAH BOI, THIS SPITE IS WHAT ALL TRUE TROLLERS STRIVE FOR!
Shin: I JUST WONDER WHAT NEMESIS IS UP TO.
YOUR MAJESTY, NEMESIS HAS CREATED ANOTHER SPITE THREAD
HOW CAN WE HELP?
IT IS WRITTEN, ONLY SHIN CAN TROLL NEMESIS
Shin: GREAT, I'LL GRAB MY BOOZE
THERE IS NO TIME, YOUR CALCS ARE ENOUGH
*Edited because there are no wmnz on the internet*
SQUADALAH, WE ARE OFF
Shin: WOW, WHAT ARE ALL THOSE THREADS?
THESE ARE THE SPITE THREADS OF EVIL, YOU MUST CONQUER EACH
Shin: I GUESS I BETTER GET TROLLING

LOL... too much win.

The OP is setting up a scenario where Kratos is the protagonist and Link is the antagonist. Therefore, Kratos now has the plot advantage to defeat Link.

Since it's Kratos' quest to destroy Link, Link is the final boss by default while all the other LoZ characters are mini bosses or npcs that Kratos will destroy. Characters like Ganon, Sheik, and Midna will be bosses Kratos will come across to defeat and steal a item/weapon from to use against common enemies, later bosses, and finally Link. Princess Zelda will be there for Kratos to sex minigame, etc...


End result: Kratos wins by default of the OP

LMAO xD

I like the Princess Zelda sex minigame idea lol

What's with you and spite threads?

Kratos won't even have to fight Link and Sheik since they're gonna get slaughtered by the Colossi. But in a God of War game, anybody that's pisses him off gets slaughtered by him. In this case, it'll be like this:

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Midna is the only challenge here. This would be a boss fight similar to one of those Leviathan tentacles except the Colossi would serve as platforms. It ends with Kratos killing Midna with the Blade of Olympus or by one of the Colossi.

Wow game spoiled lol

Sin, I know you didn't just say Link and Sheik get beaten by the Colossi. There's a huge difference between thinking a character isn't as good as others think and blatantly ignoring everything said character has ever done.

It's Midna, Sheik, and Link vs Kratos. My money is on Team 1.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I like the Princess Zelda sex minigame idea lol
Yeh. But wait...Which Zelda are we using?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Sin, I know you didn't just say Link and Sheik get beaten by the Colossi. There's a huge difference between thinking a character isn't as good as others think and blatantly ignoring everything said character has ever done.

It's Midna, Sheik, and Link vs Kratos. My money is on Team 1.

I did actually. While Malus, Kuromori, and Pelagia distract Midna, Link will try dealing one of the Colossi before being tackled by Celosia or Cenobia and then eaten by Dirge. If Link is lucky, he might be able to beat Valus, who is a complete dumbass. Link is gonna have to deal with Basaran's concussive bolts and let's not forget that the Colossi are armored and can can only be harmed by certain spots. On top of that, Link can get shaken off or shot down.

Sheik is useless.

Actually I'd say Sheik can keep at least one Colossus at bay.

Link can solo them all, as can Midna. Easily, as a matter of fact.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually I'd say Sheik can keep at least one Colossus at bay.


The same Sheik that is virtually featless?

Zelda held down Ganon. And is at least normal human level, which is what I believe took down the Colossus.

Nah.

Held him down with powah of light.

Prove it would be effective against a Colossus, who would just step on Sheik.

Well, shining a bit of light on Ganon isn't enough to keep him down, otherwise he'd be nocturnal. So I imagine there's force behind it. And if it uses force, there is enough to pin down a physical power house.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually I'd say Sheik can keep at least one Colossus at bay.

Link can solo them all, as can Midna. Easily, as a matter of fact.

Sheik isn't beating any Colossi. Link can solo all the 16 but all at the same time? No.

I'd say he could. And again, easily.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'd say he could. And again, easily.

Which is BS especially since he can't solo all the OoT bosses at once.

He tries climbing Valus and he risks getting shot down by Kratos or the big tortoise.

The OoT bosses are not the Colossus. Link doesn't even have to, Midna can kill them.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well, shining a bit of light on Ganon isn't enough to keep him down, otherwise he'd be nocturnal. So I imagine there's force behind it. And if it uses force, there is enough to pin down a physical power house.

Nah, it appeared to be a light-based attack, as in, one Ganon or a gai vulnerable to light/holy based attacks would be vulnerable to. Ganon is weak to holy attacks, rite?

Shiek could use some Deku Nuts to stun the Collossi, if possible. That's how she does her ninja thing, after all.

Now, I haven't yet played SotC, but I know a little about it. Very little, but whatever. I'm sure a Fire, Ice, or Light arrow could substitue a flash arrow for damaging a Collosus, and Light would be partucularly effective on Kratos. Further, Link still has the mirror shield for ranged attacks.

Light alone, I don't see doing anything to Kratos.

The attack has to be strong enough in the first place. Kratos' boss durability is beyond Link's ability to hurt sadly.

Nemesis, you didnt say Kratos' part in caps. Are they informed on how to kill the Collosi? 'sides that it be difficult for them to even get to those points without being shot down by someone/thing else.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Shiek could use some Deku Nuts to stun the Collossi, if possible. That's how she does her ninja thing, after all.

haermm

That'd be like if ants created flash grenades, and tried using them on humans, i.e. it's not going to work.

The Colossus don't have any durability feats for their skin outside of the specified points, do they? If so, then their durability is slightly greater than the force a human can produce.

Don't be ridiculous. We can see the kind of material they are made out of.

A million or so tons of earth and stone. simply being able to move and retain shape and not collapse is excellent durability.

Also, I remember one of the Colossi, a snake like creature, being able to fly and dive through the ground. That too is an idea of Colossi durability.

Wander was using a special sword to take down the Colossi.
Though it is completely useless unless used to their weak spots.
It's the only known weapon that can point to the locations of each Colossi.

How does flying show its durability?

Even if someone was able to stab through there body it wouldn't do anything unless you hit the weak point. And I think there are 3 or 4 that have ranged moves (+Kratos) that will stop that from happening.

Originally posted by BloodRain
How does flying show its durability?


Where did I say that? Read again dude.

''being able to fly and dive through the ground'' got the ground part. Probably reading it wrong.

...

My point was that it uses its flying ability to gain distance and subsequently force itself through the ground with it. That is the durability feat.

Actually I just watched that part again, its in in a desert so the creature is diving through sand. Not as impressive as if it was earth, but still impressive as lots of sand compacted together can be very hard.

Ohh right.

And wasn't the last one restrained? Could be very threatening without that.

They're made of stone? K.

Still think Midna could take them though. It'd be harder for Link. However, these Colossus are evil, right?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Light alone, I don't see doing anything to Kratos.

The attack has to be strong enough in the first place. Kratos' boss durability is beyond Link's ability to hurt sadly. Lulwut?Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
They're made of stone? K.

Still think Midna could take them though. It'd be harder for Link. However, these Colossus are evil, right? not IIRC.

This thread is actually pretty hilarious, but yeah. Link soloes. 131

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
However, these Colossus are evil, right?

They're not though, most of them are very aggressive.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lulwut? not IIRC.

While I agree with you here....



That's BS. If Link had to fight all of the Colossi at once, he would die. He would be busy trying to climb one of them and then he gets shot down by an energy bolt and is left with the possibility of getting mauled by one of the smaller Colossus, gets eaten by Dirge, or both.

Link soloing the Colossi and Kratos is even more BS as Kratos can just rip both of his arms off and peg Valus in the head with it so that it might be mad enough to use its club against Midna. But there's a good chance that Gaius may destroy half of Hyrule Castle and accidentally kill Link in the process.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lulwut?


Link. Has. No. Means. Of. Hurting. Kratos.

Clearer?

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
haermm

That'd be like if ants created flash grenades, and tried using them on humans, i.e. it's not going to work.

I dunno. Flashbang to the face would be pretty effective, even if it was fairly small.

And is everyone just assuming the Collossi can't be hurt or is that an actual thing?

Link puts on the Giant mask and drops the Colossi on their own terms, then shrinks back down to deal with Kratos.

Kratos would have an easier time against a giant Link than he did against Cronos. And he pretty much wiped the floor with Cronos.

That of course is barring the fact that he isn't in possession of the mask in this thread.

http://teamico.wikia.com/wiki/The_colossi
Comparison chart of the Colossi

Now that I think of it, how is Hydrus gonna be in this match? It's a water-dweller.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Kratos would have an easier time against a giant Link than he did against Cronos. And he pretty much wiped the floor with Cronos.

That of course is barring the fact that he isn't in possession of the mask in this thread.

Says who? Just because he does not start out with it doesn't mean he cannot acquire it. It is a simple matter of going to the Temple of Time and going back, finding the mask in kid form, then coming back with it. This would all be able to occur before Kratos and the Colossi could even reach Hyrule proper.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Link puts on the Giant mask and drops the Colossi on their own terms, then shrinks back down to deal with Kratos.

OoT Link boyo.

Same timeline, same Link. It's valid.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Says who? Just because he does not start out with it doesn't mean he cannot acquire it. It is a simple matter of going to the Temple of Time and going back, finding the mask in kid form, then coming back with it. This would all be able to occur before Kratos and the Colossi could even reach Hyrule proper.

Lol no. Forget the fact that the thing isn't even located in Hyrule, but by the time Link even makes an attempt for such a thing, Kratos will have singlehandedly decimated Hyrule ten times over.

Again, it wouldn't help either way. Link's out of his league.

gay_rage

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Same timeline, same Link. It's valid.

Nah.

MM is after OoT. NemeSis never included MM, so we must assume only OoT stuff is included.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Link. Has. No. Means. Of. Hurting. Kratos.

Clearer?

Swordings sound pretty effective to me. Especially with him being evil and all.

Link swings the Master Sword, and it bounces off Kratos' pectorals.

Actually, what Xanatos says makes sense. Link could travel into the past before Ganon can claim the triforce and have him defeated by the Hyrulian forces and then claim the triforce himself as a child and either wait out the next seven years for the lulz or advance seven years and easily wipe out Kratos and the Colossi.

Originally posted by Cyner
Actually, what Xanatos says makes sense. Link could travel into the past before Ganon can claim the triforce and have him defeated by the Hyrulian forces and then claim the triforce himself as a child and either wait out the next seven years for the lulz or advance seven years and easily wipe out Kratos and the Colossi.


Would create a time paradox that would destroy the universe.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Would create a time paradox that would destroy the universe.

Thereby pulling a draw. Woo.

Anyway, since Kratos is attacking Hyrule, I could see Hyrule fighting back. Specifically, Biggorons.

How many Biggorons are there actually in OoT Hyrule? I remember, like, one.

Originally posted by Cyner
Actually, what Xanatos says makes sense. Link could travel into the past before Ganon can claim the triforce and have him defeated by the Hyrulian forces and then claim the triforce himself as a child and either wait out the next seven years for the lulz or advance seven years and easily wipe out Kratos and the Colossi.

The Triforce has done nothing to defeat anybody. Ganondorf was so much of threat that the gods flooded Hyrule in Wind Waker. It would make much sense if the king used the Triforce to wish him away rather than wishing a good future for Link and Zelda. Let's not forget when Ganon got the Triforce. Why didn't he just wish his enemies away especially the Master Sword which was the main tool of his previous defeats.

The minute that the Triforce appears, Kratos will shove that thing up Link's ass and and splatter his body against Valus's leg, causing the Colossus to destroy Hyrule Castle in an anger tantrum.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
How many Biggorons are there actually in OoT Hyrule? I remember, like, one.

There's two of them: one makes the Giant's Knife and the other makes Biggoron Sword.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Triforce has done nothing to defeat anybody. Ganondorf was so much of threat that the gods flooded Hyrule in Wind Waker. It would make much sense if the king used the Triforce to wish him away rather than wishing a good future for Link and Zelda. Let's not forget when Ganon got the Triforce. Why didn't he just wish his enemies away especially the Master Sword which was the main tool of his previous defeats.

The minute that the Triforce appears, Kratos will shove that thing up Link's ass and and splatter his body against Valus's leg, causing the Colossus to destroy Hyrule Castle in an anger tantrum.


1. Yes Ganondorf was that much of a threat with merely the Triforce of Power. The full Triforce would be exponentially more powerful

2. The king was stupid (PIS)

3. In ALttP the full power of the Triforce was not yet fleshed out(by the creators of the game), it also turns out that the Triforce is something of an ******* to Ganondorf who wished to rule the world and ended up ruling just the sacred realm.

4. I see you have been enjoying your lifetime supply of haterade.

Originally posted by Cyner
4. I see you have been enjoying your lifetime supply of haterade.

Hah!

Originally posted by Cyner
1. Yes Ganondorf was that much of a threat with merely the Triforce of Power. The full Triforce would be exponentially more powerful

2. The king was stupid (PIS)

3. In ALttP the full power of the Triforce was not yet fleshed out(by the creators of the game), it also turns out that the Triforce is something of an ******* to Ganondorf who wished to rule the world and ended up ruling just the sacred realm.

4. I see you have been enjoying your lifetime supply of haterade.

Clearly the Triforce has a limit on wishes, just like the Dragon Balls.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
gay_rage

I accept your concession.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
There's two of them: one makes the Giant's Knife and the other makes Biggoron Sword.

That's Medigoron, who's maybe half the size of Biggoron, who isn't near the size of the likes of Cronos, who was killed singlehandedly by Kratos, who would do away with either Goron at least as easily.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Link swings the Master Sword, and it bounces off Kratos' pectorals.

Assuming Link actually gets the chance to hit him.

Lol'd.

Size =/= power. Cronos' only feat I've ever seen is tossing a rock.

Link > Kratos in skill, and his sword is all evil-smitey, said it a million times. Kratos is evil. This is the 9001st thread about this crap, too.
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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol'd.

Size =/= power. Cronos' only feat I've ever seen is tossing a rock.

Link > Kratos in skill, and his sword is all evil-smitey, said it a million times. Kratos is evil. This is the 9001st thread about this crap, too.
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Size does = Strength though boyo.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Size does = Strength though boyo. It = enough strength to move your own body.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It = enough strength to move your own body.


And how much would you think Cronos weighs?

No idea, but he can throw a big rock some distance.

-Cronos holds an entire mountain on his back foolpaste. And his individual arm strength is equal to Atlas'. --Cronos throws a big boulder at some God (can't make out well who its supposed to be in the cutscene.) Whereas Atlas throws smaller chucks of rocks at Hades.(but at a more rapid pace) Cronos also manages to break one of the shackles on his wrists when you fight him.

-Link has a very vanilla broadsword as a weapon. Kratos would wield that with the utmost of ease. Kratos is more skilled because he has immensely better showings of dexterity with a more complex main weapon.

-Lol @ Master Sword hurting Kratos. No.
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^Needless to say, Zeus is millions of times above Link in strength. As is the BoO incalculably more powerful than the Master Sword. Blocking the BoO with bares hands whilst its swung by Zeus, puts Kratos beyond Link's abilities to hurt. Merely saying 'it hurts evil' isn't enough, it has one shotted no evil being that I know of, nor has it been used against someone as durable as Kratos.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
And how much would you think Cronos weighs?

At least a couple million tons.

lol FALLLLLLSE

Got a strength feat for Zues? He was strugglign to impale Kratos when he was half dead. haermm CONVERSELY: You have no proof Cronos is equal to Atlas in arm strength, or so much as strength feat above supporting his own weight. Also, the master sword is on par with the triforce in terms of power, and smites evil.

-LOL Paste never argue about God of War again you dolt. You know nothing.Kratos was neither half dead nor did Zeus struggle. It took all of two seconds to impale Kratos. Kratos was injured, but completely conscious when this fight took place.

He's also easily snatched the BoO out of a healthy Kratos' hands in both God of War 2 and 3. They are shown to be about equal in strength and Kratos himself is millions of times above a weakling like Link as well.

-I already gave a feat of Atlas and Cronos being comparable in single arm strength you dolt.

-Master Sword ain't shit.

Funny, until the events of GoW3, Kratos was under Link in terms of strength. Being stronger isn't enough to net him a win, though. The Kratos Zeus fought wasn't at his current strenght and yes, Kratos was half dead, listen to Gaia talk during the scene.

So, unless I see it happen in GoW3, untrue. And even then, how strong Kratos is is still up for debate. Millions of times above Link? Nah.


so, because they did something similar, they're comparable? No. Kratos can also lift chairs, thsi does not make him comparable to a normal man.

Master sword is directly stated to be a failsafe on the entire triforce, is defintitely a powerful little artifact. Evil Kratos = smited Kratos.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Funny, until the events of GoW3, Kratos was under Link in terms of strength. Being stronger isn't enough to net him a win, though. The Kratos Zeus fought wasn't at his current strenght and yes, Kratos was half dead, listen to Gaia talk during the scene.


so, because they did something similar, they're comparable? No. Kratos can also lift chairs, thsi does not make him comparable to a normal man.

Master sword is directly stated to be a failsafe on the entire triforce, is defintitely a powerful little artifact. Evil Kratos = smited Kratos.

-LOL. No one who wasn't retarded ever considered Link anywhere near Kratos' strength level. But its not just strength Kratos has over Link. He has ever advantage possible. Speed, Durability, Skill, Magic. Everything.

And no, a half dead Kratos is not one who stands up erect and is able to speak with no pause or labored breathing in his voice(when he was speaking to Zeus). You are misinterpreting Gaia's words, look at the actual damn cutscene fool. And again, your point is moot because at the end of same game Zeus was shown to snatch the BoO out of a more powerful and fully healthy Kratos' hands.

-Yes, because they had a similar goal and achieved it with an equal amount of strain. Cronos and Atlas also had a comparable showing against Hades. Cronos also destroyed one of the shackles on his wrist, which Atlas has never done. They are the same race, Cronos happens to be the leader. They are in the same league. Again, it doesn't matter, even if Atlas was millions of times stronger than Cronos (he's not). That would still put Cronos incalculably far above everyone in the meek Zeldaverse.

-Lol the Master Sword is is no way = the Triforce. Forget your interpretation of some narrative. Give us some feats of it that puts it anywhere close to the BoO.

Until GoW3, Link was infact stronger, LOL all you like, it's true. Also, my turn to LOL. Link wins in skill and demonstrable striking speed, he's strong enough to kill Kratos with the master sword, and that's all he needs.

At the end of the game it was still GoW2 Kratos, and he didn't snatch it so much as they had a length exchange whiel flying.

ORLY? No. They couldn't even lift Hades if that scene really was all physical strength as you like to pretend, and Atlas gets off the hook based entirely on his namesake, being the same race as someone does not give you their feats. So, here's your apparent measurement of Kratos' strength, stop me if Im incorrect.

Atlas in the original myth holds up the earth. Atlas in GoW is imprisonedb eneath the earth, and is presumably doing what his namsake does. Cronos happens to be kind of like Atlas, but in the same way that say.. Link's sister Aryll is kinda liek Link. Now, Aryll can't do anythign Link does, bar looking through a telescope, that we can prove. But by virtue of being the related their feats are able to be shared? Nope. Not how it werks, mah boi. Cronos' can be seen doing something Atlas can do, but not /everything/ Atlas can do. Whether Atlas is actively supporting anything seems to be left amiss in the GoW universe, which many have pointed out, has many contrasts from the myth it's based on. Now, I haven't played GoW3, but does anythign bad happen to the earth's crust after Atlas is freed? Just askin'.

Cronos' strength feats: He can throw a rock. He is not Atlas, and does not get hsi feats. Now, here's where we make another jump.

Atlas = Atlas = Cronos = Kratos. If nothing else, this is a sign Cronos is infact not as strogn physicly as Atlas, as Atlas could have killed Kratos in GoW 2, with his /fingers/. Cronos is not Atlas, he's a titan of a whole different sort. Sort of like how Zeus being leader of the gods doesn't give him the powers of the others. So, at best, we know, that Kratos, can throw a big rock. It's bigger than Link's, so, neato. But it's not millions of times bigger, or millions of times faster. So, whiel Kratos, as of GoW3, is stronger, he is not millions of times stronger by any stretch.

The master sword is stated to be, arguing with the games now? The master sword is powerful, and Link is strong, and Kratos is evil. Link has everythign he needs to kill Kratos.

To summarise, while this is still here:

You assume Atlas is = to myth Atlas, and assume Cronos is = to him, and assume Zeus is stronger than him based on an exchange between he and Kratos which predates the exchange between Cronos and Kratos.

HM.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
I accept your concession.

What concession? The stamp of Gay Raging approval was needed in this thread.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Lol no. Forget the fact that the thing isn't even located in Hyrule, but by the time Link even makes an attempt for such a thing, Kratos will have singlehandedly decimated Hyrule ten times over.

Again, it wouldn't help either way. Link's out of his league.

Unless Kratos follows Link back in time, he won't be decimating anything for seven-plus years.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Actually I just watched that part again, its in in a desert so the creature is diving through sand. Not as impressive as if it was earth, but still impressive as lots of sand compacted together can be very hard.

The sand is compacted enough to allow Agro to run at full speed. Last I checked, Horses have a rather difficult time running in the desert like she did.

A rather small one is able to run at a reasonable speed into a fairly large structure, and sustain very little damage in the process.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The Colossus don't have any durability feats for their skin outside of the specified points, do they? If so, then their durability is slightly greater than the force a human can produce.

Wander becomes more powerful as he kills each Colossus. By the time he reaches the last one, he's far from human.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Until GoW3, Link was infact stronger, LOL all you like, it's true. Also, my turn to LOL. Link wins in skill and demonstrable striking speed, he's strong enough to kill Kratos with the master sword, and that's all he needs.

At the end of the game it was still GoW2 Kratos, and he didn't snatch it so much as they had a length exchange whiel flying.

ORLY? No. They couldn't even lift Hades if that scene really was all physical strength as you like to pretend, and Atlas gets off the hook based entirely on his namesake, being the same race as someone does not give you their feats. So, here's your apparent measurement of Kratos' strength, stop me if Im incorrect.

Atlas in the original myth holds up the earth. Atlas in GoW is imprisonedb eneath the earth, and is presumably doing what his namsake does. Cronos happens to be kind of like Atlas, but in the same way that say.. Link's sister Aryll is kinda liek Link. Now, Aryll can't do anythign Link does, bar looking through a telescope, that we can prove. But by virtue of being the related their feats are able to be shared? Nope. Not how it werks, mah boi. Cronos' can be seen doing something Atlas can do, but not /everything/ Atlas can do. Whether Atlas is actively supporting anything seems to be left amiss in the GoW universe, which many have pointed out, has many contrasts from the myth it's based on. Now, I haven't played GoW3, but does anythign bad happen to the earth's crust after Atlas is freed? Just askin'.

Cronos' strength feats: He can throw a rock. He is not Atlas, and does not get hsi feats. Now, here's where we make another jump.

Atlas = Atlas = Cronos = Kratos. If nothing else, this is a sign Cronos is infact not as strogn physicly as Atlas, as Atlas could have killed Kratos in GoW 2, with his /fingers/. Cronos is not Atlas, he's a titan of a whole different sort. Sort of like how Zeus being leader of the gods doesn't give him the powers of the others. So, at best, we know, that Kratos, can throw a big rock. It's bigger than Link's, so, neato. But it's not millions of times bigger, or millions of times faster. So, whiel Kratos, as of GoW3, is stronger, he is not millions of times stronger by any stretch.

The master sword is stated to be, arguing with the games now? The master sword is powerful, and Link is strong, and Kratos is evil. Link has everythign he needs to kill Kratos. 1. Kratos stopped himself from being crushed by Atlas' fingers. ***** and moan about it all you want, you cannot PROVE Atlas had no desire to kill Kratos. Kratos destroys Link in skill, based on him effectively wielding a far more awkward and difficult weapon to wield, shit. Striking speed? Kratos deflected lightning. If the Blade of Olympus was stopped by Kratos' HANDS when wielded by Zeus, you know, the guy who single-handedly ended the Great Titan War with it, then Link's sword can do nothing to Kratos. The Master Sword cannot directly cut into ****ing Volvagia. Prove Volvagia is as durable as Kratos.

2. During the fight he pulls it right from Kratos' hands.

3. Dude.

Cronos has been supporting what is basically a ****ing mountain on his back for thousands of years.

Are you really going to argue Link is stronger than that?

Being able to move at that size would make him stronger. Cronos could kill Link by tripping.

4. Stated by who. Refresh my memory. The Triforce can warp an entire world. The Master Sword... Cannot. Also, give the exact quote in full.

Funny, Kratos has everything he needs to kill Link. His bare hands.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Unless Kratos follows Link back in time, he won't be decimating anything for seven-plus years. I guess Link must be the Flash now, to be able to get to the Temple of Time before Kratos and the Collossi can do anything.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It = enough strength to move your own body. Which is enough to overpower Link.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Says who? Just because he does not start out with it doesn't mean he cannot acquire it. It is a simple matter of going to the Temple of Time and going back, finding the mask in kid form, then coming back with it. This would all be able to occur before Kratos and the Colossi could even reach Hyrule proper. Is Majora/Skull Kid here to take him there?

No.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Link > Kratos in skill, and his sword is all evil-smitey, said it a million times.

Before he became a servant of Ares, he was a Spartan general that was undefeated until the battle against the Barbarians. And really, after all the feats that Kratos has done and the uses he has made with his main weapons, he's far skilled than Link. Link needs to find special items to even defeat boss characters because his Master Sword alone isn't good enough (i.e. Megaton Hammer is needed against Volvagia).



Three problems with this:

1. Composite Link is always used in Vs. debates outside KMC.

2. God of War 3 wasn't released then.

3. This thread is using Link from OoT

That's not good enough evidence that OoT Link beats Kratos. Hope Kratos would rip Composite Link apart.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Until GoW3, Link was infact stronger,

Kratos was always stronger than Link. You're just too much of a fanboy to accept that. Preventing himself from being crushed by Atlas is a far greater feat than lifting a big pillar of granite (which Kratos could do as well). Link only has arm strength from the Gauntlets and is nothing special without it.



Anybody who has played a God of War game and a Zelda game know Kratos has faster striking speed and skill.



Atlas doesn't appear at GoW3 at all.



You act like the Master Sword kills everything in one shot which is obviously not true especially since he needs the help of a new item to even beat boss characters. The Helmasaur King needed his armored head broken with bombs or the Magic Hammer to even be harmed. Volvagia needed his head smashed with the Megaton Hammer for the Master Sword to work. Dodongos have to be fed with bombs. Bongo Bongo had to have his hands shot with arrows. Fyrus had to be knocked over. Stallord had to be hit with the Spinner. Armogohma required statues to smash its armor. Agahnim needed to be hit with his own spells. Argghus needed his balls destroyed by having them reeled with a hookshot. Kholdstare had to have its icy armor melted with fire. Trinexx required the Fire Rod and Ice Rod in order to be defeated.

The Master Sword is not as powerful as you claim it to be. The Blade of Olympus is smaller than a tooth pick when compared to Cronos and it killed him when Kratos stabbed him in the head. It defeated the entire Titans with one strike and vaporized all the soldiers in Rhodes.

Link is getting torn apart.

Though I agree that Link could harm Kratos given the chance, Kratos can dish out and take so much more then Link can.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Until GoW3, Link was infact stronger, LOL all you like, it's true. Also, my turn to LOL. Link wins in skill and demonstrable striking speed, he's strong enough to kill Kratos with the master sword, and that's all he needs.

At the end of the game it was still GoW2 Kratos, and he didn't snatch it so much as they had a length exchange whiel flying.

ORLY? No. They couldn't even lift Hades if that scene really was all physical strength as you like to pretend, and Atlas gets off the hook based entirely on his namesake, being the same race as someone does not give you their feats. So, here's your apparent measurement of Kratos' strength, stop me if Im incorrect.

Atlas in the original myth holds up the earth. Atlas in GoW is imprisonedb eneath the earth, and is presumably doing what his namsake does. Cronos happens to be kind of like Atlas, but in the same way that say.. Link's sister Aryll is kinda liek Link. Now, Aryll can't do anythign Link does, bar looking through a telescope, that we can prove. But by virtue of being the related their feats are able to be shared? Nope. Not how it werks, mah boi. Cronos' can be seen doing something Atlas can do, but not /everything/ Atlas can do. Whether Atlas is actively supporting anything seems to be left amiss in the GoW universe, which many have pointed out, has many contrasts from the myth it's based on. Now, I haven't played GoW3, but does anythign bad happen to the earth's crust after Atlas is freed? Just askin'.

Cronos' strength feats: He can throw a rock. He is not Atlas, and does not get hsi feats. Now, here's where we make another jump.

Atlas = Atlas = Cronos = Kratos. If nothing else, this is a sign Cronos is infact not as strogn physicly as Atlas, as Atlas could have killed Kratos in GoW 2, with his /fingers/. Cronos is not Atlas, he's a titan of a whole different sort. Sort of like how Zeus being leader of the gods doesn't give him the powers of the others. So, at best, we know, that Kratos, can throw a big rock. It's bigger than Link's, so, neato. But it's not millions of times bigger, or millions of times faster. So, whiel Kratos, as of GoW3, is stronger, he is not millions of times stronger by any stretch.

The master sword is stated to be, arguing with the games now? The master sword is powerful, and Link is strong, and Kratos is evil. Link has everythign he needs to kill Kratos.

I will LOL all I want yes. Thanks for your unnecessary permission. Link with the gauntlets is still small fry in strength in the God of War series. You try to wank that far too much as it is anyway.

1. Again, I would ask you never declare things on which you have only have a fraction of knowledge. DURING the fight, Zeus snatches the blade of Kratos hand in grappling QTEs. He does the same thing in God of War 3's final fight. Pointless going on about this as your dumb ass assertion that Zeus is barely stronger than a mortally wounded Kratos was debunked long ago. Actually, I've seen you bring this up in several threads (even ones I didn't participate in) and each time someone pointed this out to you and yet you still used it here. What a dumb ass.

2. Everytime Hades has used his soul rip, there has been an important element of strength involved, (in smaller form than what he used against Cronos/Atlas, he failed to pull out Kratos' soul, yet Kratos after weakening Hades through combat was able to pull out Hades' sould). The fact of the matter is he has to PULL the ****ing soul out. The only one pretending (and creating assumptions to mechanics of the action that you cryptically can't/won't even explain yourself) anything here is you. I've dared you to say it so I can forever ignore your posts based on demonstrated stupidity, but you still won't commit. C'mon say it, say Atlas is millions of times stronger than Cronos. Pretty please?

Again, in the very same scene, in direct comparisons, Atlas and Cronos have shown to be as comparable as you would think two high ranking Titans would be. Forget your shitty and not at all relevant attempts at being cute with the link and sister analogy, it has no place here. Dumb ass.

Once more: Hades pulled out Atlas' soul with some help from Poseidon vs. Hades gradually managing to partially pull out Cronos' soul after a more extensive tussle up in which he had the leverage initially. (By how much longer the Hades vs Cronos confrontation took is not clear, as when the cutscene started Hades was already well under with being hooked into him and struggling with him even with leverage.)

The former scenario was much shorter, but had the aid of Poseidon, the latter scenario took longer but was done solo. See? Comparable. Cronos' soul would have been taken far quicker if Poseidon had aided, but obviously not millions of times quicker. Why? Because Atlas is not millions of times stronger, obviously.

At best he is a small multiplier stronger, like 2x. That's it. Which for the purpose of my argument is still 'comparable'.

You are trying to strawman me by saying I mean they share feats. Silly rabbit. Point out where I said that. I just said that they are comparable. And they are.

Atlas and Cronos both failed to crush Kratos with a similar amount of effort with their thumb and forefinger. Atlas and Cronos both had a comparable performance against the Gods. Atlas and Cronos both throw giant boulders with a similar amount of effort. Atlas and Cronos both run/walk at comparable speeds all the while their weights would obviously be comparable as well. (At least a couple million tons each, maybe 20% more for Atlas since he has two extra arms)

Oh, also, its so cute how you wish to peg Cronos as a mere boulder thrower. Even if you use the parameters, set 'rules' of debate on the forums here, logically you know in your head even if it was his sole feat, that it wouldn't be his limit.

I recall the developers pegging the titans as being able to toss mountains anyway, and I know you won't have trouble accepting that, as Atlas himself holds up the upper crust of the world. Meaning even if his brethren were still a million of times weaker than him, it would still put them at a more then necessary strength level to toss a mere mountain. Thankfully a peer like Cronos is not at all a million times weaker.

3. I repeat, the Master Sword has zero impressive showings. Kratos' durability is above everyone's in LoZ. Everyone.

well, assuming screampaste doesnt coincidentally just stop replying in this thread, hes got a lot on his plate

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Atlas doesn't appear at GoW3 at all.
Yeah, he appears in CoO rite?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well, assuming screampaste doesnt coincidentally just stop replying in this thread, hes got a lot on his plate

His computer is DoA, he can only reply from someone else's.

DoA means Dead or Alive?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well, assuming screampaste doesnt coincidentally just stop replying in this thread, hes got a lot on his plate

Damn, I was thinking of adding more Kratos points onto his plate until you pointed it out. mmm

Meh, CC and Nemebro seem to have it covered.

I'm too lazy to reply to stuff.

Maybe I'll do something here tomorrow.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well, assuming screampaste doesnt coincidentally just stop replying in this thread, hes got a lot on his plate Won't do.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I will LOL all I want yes. Thanks for your unnecessary permission. Link with the gauntlets is still small fry in strength in the God of War series. You try to wank that far too much as it is anyway.

1. Again, I would ask you never declare things on which you have only have a fraction of knowledge. DURING the fight, Zeus snatches the blade of Kratos hand in grappling QTEs. He does the same thing in God of War 3's final fight. Pointless going on about this as your dumb ass assertion that Zeus is barely stronger than a mortally wounded Kratos was debunked long ago. Actually, I've seen you bring this up in several threads (even ones I didn't participate in) and each time someone pointed this out to you and yet you still used it here. What a dumb ass.

2. Everytime Hades has used his soul rip, there has been an important element of strength involved, (in smaller form than what he used against Cronos/Atlas, he failed to pull out Kratos' soul, yet Kratos after weakening Hades through combat was able to pull out Hades' sould). The fact of the matter is he has to PULL the ****ing soul out. The only one pretending (and creating assumptions to mechanics of the action that you cryptically can't/won't even explain yourself) anything here is you. I've dared you to say it so I can forever ignore your posts based on demonstrated stupidity, but you still won't commit. C'mon say it, say Atlas is millions of times stronger than Cronos. Pretty please?

Again, in the very same scene, in direct comparisons, Atlas and Cronos have shown to be as comparable as you would think two high ranking Titans would be. Forget your shitty and not at all relevant attempts at being cute with the link and sister analogy, it has no place here. Dumb ass.

Once more: Hades pulled out Atlas' soul with some help from Poseidon vs. Hades gradually managing to partially pull out Cronos' soul after a more extensive tussle up in which he had the leverage initially. (By how much longer the Hades vs Cronos confrontation took is not clear, as when the cutscene started Hades was already well under with being hooked into him and struggling with him even with leverage.)

The former scenario was much shorter, but had the aid of Poseidon, the latter scenario took longer but was done solo. See? Comparable. Cronos' soul would have been taken far quicker if Poseidon had aided, but obviously not millions of times quicker. Why? Because Atlas is not millions of times stronger, obviously.

At best he is a small multiplier stronger, like 2x. That's it. Which for the purpose of my argument is still 'comparable'.

You are trying to strawman me by saying I mean they share feats. Silly rabbit. Point out where I said that. I just said that they are comparable. And they are.

Atlas and Cronos both failed to crush Kratos with a similar amount of effort with their thumb and forefinger. Atlas and Cronos both had a comparable performance against the Gods. Atlas and Cronos both throw giant boulders with a similar amount of effort. Atlas and Cronos both run/walk at comparable speeds all the while their weights would obviously be comparable as well. (At least a couple million tons each, maybe 20% more for Atlas since he has two extra arms)

Oh, also, its so cute how you wish to peg Cronos as a mere boulder thrower. Even if you use the parameters, set 'rules' of debate on the forums here, logically you know in your head even if it was his sole feat, that it wouldn't be his limit.

I recall the developers pegging the titans as being able to toss mountains anyway, and I know you won't have trouble accepting that, as Atlas himself holds up the upper crust of the world. Meaning even if his brethren were still a million of times weaker than him, it would still put them at a more then necessary strength level to toss a mere mountain. Thankfully a peer like Cronos is not at all a million times weaker.

3. I repeat, the Master Sword has zero impressive showings. Kratos' durability is above everyone's in LoZ. Everyone.

1. Neat, was asking if he did it in GoW3 earlier on, it still doesn't make him "millions of times stronger" than anyone, BECAUUUSE: Your assumptions of Kratos' strength are required to be valid before Zeus' can be valid, because it's a long, long, chain of assumptions.

You're illiterate.
There's a LOT more at work with that than just strength, otherwise neither Atlas nor Cronos could lift Hades. HM.

Also, Atlas doesn't need to be millions of times stronger than anyone, you assume he's equal to myth Atlas with no evidence to support that.

I notice you totally ignored my little summary. So, Atlas and Cronos have to be comparable because they're both titans? And I'm being cute/a dumbass? Not how it works. Cronos needs his own feats, and your list of things they do "comparably" is short and unimportant. superman and I can both lift chairs, I am not comparable to superman.
Also, Atlas holding up the earth's crust is kinda lulz in GoW, seein' as we see just fine that it holds itself up before he's imprisoned and nothing adverse seems to happen after he's freed. we have ten million instances of the game deviating from the myth but you assume this part is entirely the same.

comparable soul rip resistance =/= comparable physical strength, even if Atlas in GoW was equal to his mythological counterpart.

FAAAAAALSE. Atlas wasn't trying to kill him in GoW2.

Find a strength feat that actually puts Cronos where you say he is, and therefore Kratos and therefore Zeus, and if you're lucky maybe Atlas, orrrrrrr, Cronos isn't any stronger than his feats say he is. Strong enough to support his weight and throw a big rock.

Also, no impressive showings now? You sound like burning thought.

Did Link slow down time yet? Also, the Master Sword is going to kill anything it deems evil and chooses to kill, sorry.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Did Link slow down time yet? Also, the Master Sword is going to kill anything it deems evil and chooses to kill, sorry.

If the MS deemed Pre-Retcon Beyonder evil, would it kill him?

Nah.

But pre-retcon beyonder is kinda hax. And by kinda, I mean the definition.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
If the MS deemed Pre-Retcon Beyonder evil, would it kill him? I smell a trap. Describe Beyonder to me, then I'll answer.

Dun't spoil it dude, let 5L answer the question estahuh

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I smell a trap. Describe Beyonder to me, then I'll answer.

He's a gai that looks like Donny Osmond.

Edit.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Dun't spoil it dude, let 5L answer the question estahuh

Heh, I've seen this argument somewhere before. Elaborate please.

He's arguably the most powerful character in fiction.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
He's arguably the most powerful character in fiction.

Why?

I just read up on Beyonder, and he seems pretty uber.
So, why wouldn't the Master Sword work on him in your opinion?

Because he's above it's level of power in every possible way. :c The sword is infinitely kooler though.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Because he's above it's level of power in every possible way. :c The sword is infinitely kooler though.

Ok, but how so?

Never got what makes the Master Sword such a threat offensive wise. Sure it banishes evil but hows this done? Don't remember anything like a one-hit kill.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Never got what makes the Master Sword such a threat offensive wise. Sure it banishes evil but hows this done? Don't remember anything like a one-hit kill.

So far, face-impalement is the recurring move that banishes/seals.

And what does it do when it hits evil foes as this seems to be the main go-to. What I mean is how is it going to be effective against Kratos if the sword classes him as evil?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ok, but how so?

Because he is OOO. He could destroy not only LoZ, but all of the Nintendo multiverse by thinking too hard.

Saying the MS could kill PR Beyonder is a massive no limits fallacy, and is just plain retarded.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ok, but how so? Because by thinking too much, suns explode, planets collide, and parallel universes collapse.

Because the simple act of him getting angry destroyed a large portion of the Marvel Multiverse.

Because with a simple slap he destroyed a shield put up by Molecule Man, said shield had the power of billions of universes.

Because the Living Tribunal TREMBLED in the face of Beyonder, as did the rest of the Cosmic Hierarchy.

Because even the Molecule Man, the second most powerful being in existence compared to Beyonder, stated that the difference between him and Beyonder was the same as the difference between Molecule Man and Captain America.

Because Beyonder can cure prostitutes of their STDs.

Keep in mind all of that is Beyonder while limiting himself.

At his full power he embodies a reality that is compared to an ocean surrounding the drop of water that is the Marvel Multiverse.

Also, Scream ignored my post, and in essence the point I made that proved Cronos' strength.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Because by thinking too much, suns explode, planets collide, and parallel universes collapse.

Because the simple act of him getting angry destroyed a large portion of the Marvel Multiverse.

Because with a simple slap he destroyed a shield put up by Molecule Man, said shield had the power of billions of universes.

Because the Living Tribunal TREMBLED in the face of Beyonder, as did the rest of the Cosmic Hierarchy.

Because even the Molecule Man, the second most powerful being in existence compared to Beyonder, stated that the difference between him and Beyonder was the same as the difference between Molecule Man and Captain America.

Because Beyonder can cure prostitutes of their STDs.

Keep in mind all of that is Beyonder while limiting himself.

At his full power he embodies a reality that is compared to an ocean surrounding the drop of water that is the Marvel Multiverse.

Also, Scream ignored my post, and in essence the point I made that proved Cronos' strength.

I thought that it was stated that the Living Tribunal was more powerful than Beyonder?

As awesome as all of that is (and it is awesome, no doubt), it doesn't answer why the MS wouldn't work on him should he allow himself to be impaled. Just saying; save your hate.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I thought that it was stated that the Living Tribunal was more powerful than Beyonder?

As awesome as all of that is (and it is awesome, no doubt), it doesn't answer why the MS wouldn't work on him should he allow himself to be impaled. Just saying; save your hate.

Beyonder was retconned. Hence, PR Beyonder.

PR Beyonder was hit with an attack that was apparently strong enough to bust millions of universes. It made him cough.

Besides, you're commiting a no limits fallacy. There are far, far weaker beings then Beyonder that would tank the MS. You have no evidence that the MS could kill someone like Beyonder.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer

Besides, you're commiting a no limits fallacy. There are far, far weaker beings then Beyonder that would tank the MS. You have no evidence that the MS could kill someone like Beyonder.

Lol, wut? I just want to know what keeps an evil guy like him from being affected by the MS. It should be a simple answer.
"No evidence" arguments are for people who are backed into a corner, and it seems to me like Beyonder is not someone who can be put there.

Straight answer, please.

Lol.

Already provided a durability/endurance feat for Beyonder boyo.

Meanwhile, Ganon, a being infinitely weaker then Beyonder in all possible aspects, tanks the MS.

Youre not really gonna back that the MS could effect anything a fraction what the Beyonder is, the best it can do is take down someone at Dorfs level and as a finisher.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Lol.

Already provided a durability/endurance feat for Beyonder boyo.

Meanwhile, Ganon, a being infinitely weaker then Beyonder in all possible aspects, tanks the MS.


Can you mail me a link to the scan(s) of the "universe buster attack cough"?
Also, I seem to recall Ganon falling to the MS a bunch of times.

@ Rain: No, I just want someone to give an explanation as to why.

No.

After repeated attacks.

Ganon got stabbed many times OoT, is back in TP. Ganon<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Molecule man.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
No.

After repeated attacks.

Gameplay mechanics.

Canonically, he got stabbed once, and slashed 3 times in OoT.

Nah.




Also, think of it this way.

If the MS found God evil (THE God), could the MS kill God?

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Nah.




Also, think of it this way.

If the MS found God evil (THE God), could the MS kill God?
Lies.

The MS would definitely NOT kill anyone who is immortal. No questions asked. However, the trick is, it can seal those who it deems evil (Ganon being the prime victim of this). So, what you really are asking me is if the MS could seal evil entities if Link was able to strike the opponent with it.

Well, I can't answer that because the MS hasn't been used on something of that calibur, and to say otherwise would be a no-limits fallacy. So, I don't know.

Lol. Assuming the seal even worked on Beyonder, he would accidentally destroy it without even realizing it.

Well, ask yourself this.

The LoZ verse is not even a fraction of both Beyonder and God's power. Why would something from that verse be capable of hurting, let alone sealing or killing such powerful entities?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

There's a LOT more at work with that than just strength, otherwise neither Atlas nor Cronos could lift Hades. HM.

They were both getting their souls ripped out which they were trying to resist.



The earth was holding itself fine until Atlas destroyed the pillar that held it in CoO.



Do nothing at the scene and you see blood gushing out of Kratos. Atlas was trying to do something to him.



And you don't?

Originally posted by LLLLLink

As awesome as all of that is (and it is awesome, no doubt), it doesn't answer why the MS wouldn't work on him should he allow himself to be impaled. Just saying; save your hate.

Just more proof that Link is wanked to fanboy Sephiroth levels in KMC.

Lol Paste's dumb ass thought the overworld was simply floating until Atlas held it up. Oh and Atlas did NOT get freed either fool. He's still stuck down there.

Like I said, what a clueless dumb ass making confident statements about shit he has little knowledge about. Not going to waste my time on this anymore on this principle alone.

Atlas holds up the upper half of the world, and Cronos is a peer of Atlas in strength or close enough to it to matter. /mypartinthisthread.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Paste never argue about God of War again you dolt.

I lold

/thread

wow, i have never seen scream get owend so many times in one thread
dance

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Atlas holds up the upper half of the world, and Cronos is a peer of Atlas in strength or close enough to it to matter. /mypartinthisthread.

Where's the connection that proves this?

And calm down. If you aren't pissed, you sure are posting like you are.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Where's the connection that proves this?

And calm down. If you aren't pissed, you sure are posting like you are. One caries a mountain on their back and the other is smaller than the other?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Where's the connection that proves this?

And calm down. If you aren't pissed, you sure are posting like you are.

im not goona say scream deserved it but....... im not sure he if he didmt deserve it

That's based on size, Phanteros. I can't agree with that. And carrying a mountain on your back is not on par with holding up the earth's crust, or whatever the hell Atlas holds up.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Where's the connection that proves this?


Read the damn thread and you will see me explain it over and over.

And no I'm not pissed. I just swear a lot when dealing with morons like Paste, hard to hold back because its hilarious.

Think he's just an angry poster.

Nothing to say the two titans are of the same strength, actually it doesnt matter as I got no idea what the point of this all is :/

Same no, reasonably comparable at the very least yes.

No one who isn't retarded thinks Atlas is millions of times stronger than Cronos, especially based on direct comparisons.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Read the damn thread and you will see me explain it over and over.

And no I'm not pissed. I just swear a lot when dealing with morons like Paste, hard to hold back because its hilarious.

Chill out man, no need to rage at these posts. Just chill, yo. Max and relax, home skillet. Come back to reality, bro.

CALM THE **** DOWN MAN! JUST CALM THE **** DOWN! NO! JUST STOP! JUST STOP MAN! QUIT IT!

5L, consider that even ScreamPaste here is saying that the master sword harming Pre-Retcon beyonder is a hilarious idea. >_> Weak it is not, but uber, he be. and yeah, there's a lot of stuff beneath him that's beyond the sword, too. Kratos isn't one of them, though.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
5L, consider that even ScreamPaste here is saying that the master sword harming Pre-Retcon beyonder is a hilarious idea. >_> Weak it is not, but uber, he be. and yeah, there's a lot of stuff beneath him that's beyond the sword, too. Kratos isn't one of them, though.

I'm sure Kratos can bend the Master Sword or destroy it with the Blade of Olympus.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
5L, consider that even ScreamPaste here is saying that the master sword harming Pre-Retcon beyonder is a hilarious idea. >_> Weak it is not, but uber, he be. and yeah, there's a lot of stuff beneath him that's beyond the sword, too. Kratos isn't one of them, though.

Hey, I've never implied that the MS could do anything to him. There is no proof of that. I just want to know what properties protect him from it. I want a reason, nothing more. Claiming "no-limits fallacy" on the MS is just another way of saying that you don't know.

But, now that I think about it, would the Trueforce pose any sort of threat? After all, Trueforce isn't a "no-limits fallacy", since there is a limit to its power. I'm just curious, so save your rage.

@ Sin: Kratos has nothing on Link or the MS.

No.


The Goddesses that created the Trueforce would be an atom compared to the ocean that is Beyonder in terms of power.

The Beyonder is omnipotent. uhuh

Originally posted by LLLLLink


@ Sin: Kratos has nothing on Link or the MS.
LOLLOLOLLOOLL

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Hey, I've never implied that the MS could do anything to him. There is no proof of that. I just want to know what properties protect him from it. I want a reason, nothing more. Claiming "no-limits fallacy" on the MS is just another way of saying that you don't know.

But, now that I think about it, would the Trueforce pose any sort of threat? After all, Trueforce isn't a "no-limits fallacy", since there is a limit to its power. I'm just curious, so save your rage.

@ Sin: Kratos has nothing on Link or the MS. With a thought the Trueforce will be refashioned into the Golden Triumph Forks by Beyonder. Beyonder could eat the Goddess' and all they created if he wanted to.

Also, who the hell said Beyonder was evil? He's a higher being, petty mortal morality has no relevance to him, and he is not openly malicious anyway. Even when he nearly destroyed the Multiverse, ask yourself, is it evil to kill an ant? Or better yet something even smaller than a paramecium? The 616 universe was compared to a paramecium to Beyonder.

Also, lol at your unrelenting fanboy bull. Kratos has nothing on Link?

How about physical might?

Or reaction-time?

Or durability?

Or skill?

Or a far far far far far far far far far far far far far far superior arsenal (BoO alone proves this).

Yeah, Kratos crushes Link.

And btw, one of the Collossus' could kill Link by falling on him.

Originally posted by LLLLLink

@ Sin: Kratos has nothing on Link or the MS.

Link needs the Master Sword to defeat his foes and that sword couldn't even beat Volvagia or the Helmasaur King without a special hammer. Kratos can rip up harpies with his bare hands, shatter humans by slamming them onto the floor, break the necks of griffons, and broke a pillar when punching Zeus against it.

Kratos is everything Ganondorf wished he'd be.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Link needs the Master Sword to defeat his foes and that sword couldn't even beat Volvagia or the Helmasaur King without a special hammer.

Why does this make it weak? All this means is that it has sword-like properties, and that armor tends to deflect stabs and slashes, as armor usually does.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos can rip up harpies with his bare hands, shatter humans by slamming them onto the floor, break the necks of griffons, and broke a pillar when punching Zeus against it.

Pretty sure Link has the strength for this as well.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos is everything Ganondorf wished he'd be.

Ganondorf is already evil.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Why does this make it weak? All this means is that it has sword-like properties, and that armor tends to deflect stabs and slashes, as armor usually does.

Really? Then what was all that about Master Sword being uber? Kratos's Blades of Athena were able to scar a bronze giant and the Blades of Exile were able to cause Cronos to bleed despite being minuscule compared to the Titan. During the fight with Perseus, he destroyed a helmet with a stomp and broke a sword with his bare hands.



With gauntlets and he's only shown to lift and push things.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Really? Then what was all that about Master Sword being uber? Kratos's Blades of Athena were able to scar a bronze giant and the Blades of Exile were able to cause Cronos to bleed despite being minuscule compared to the Titan. During the fight with Perseus, he destroyed a helmet with a stomp and broke a sword with his bare hands.

You know what this means? It means that the armor on those bosses was too hard for Link to get through, and that whatever the bronze giant is made of (I assume bronze) isn't hard enough to stop Kratos. Congratulations, you've discovered absolutely nothing.

Not to mention armor doesn't really have moral choices, so it's pretty hard to make it evil unless you infuse it with evil power.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
With gauntlets and he's only shown to lift and push things.

Know what a punch is? I'll tell you, a push with a clenched fist.

I would say something, Sin, but Moo pretty much raped you enough already.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, who the hell said Beyonder was evil?


I asked if the MS found Beyonder evil, would it be able to kill him. Never said Beyonder was actually evil.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
I asked if the MS found Beyonder evil, would it be able to kill him. Never said Beyonder was actually evil.

He's right. No one actually claimed Beyonder was evil. It was a "what if" situation.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
No.


The Goddesses that created the Trueforce would be an atom compared to the ocean that is Beyonder in terms of power. Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
The Beyonder is omnipotent. uhuh

Naw. The Trueforce is clearly stated to be omnipotent and omniscient. Not only that, it is not classified as a no-limit fallacy because it does, in fact, have limits.

The most impressive things done by the Trueforce can be replicated by the spec that is Earth-616 to the Beyonder.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Naw. The Trueforce is clearly stated to be omnipotent and omniscient. Not only that, it is not classified as a no-limit fallacy because it does, in fact, have limits. then its not omnipotent, because its limited. It can't even grant Ganon his wise fully and plus where was it stated?