Phoenix Force vs WF Mxy and HoM Scarlet Witch(read OP)

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TheTyrant
I can't post the scans because they no longer work.

But you can see them if you clikc on this link: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=366709&pagenumber=2

Just scroll down a bit and look at the pictures Galacticstorm had posted.
You see LT, Infinity, Eternity etc bow down to Jean Grey.

I have had never seen/rad the comic, but I assume that Phonix is uberly powerful just from that showing. If there was special context behind it, please don't hesitate to correct me.

CIS, CIP, and PIS are off.

Who wins?

Omega Vision
My initial bet is that its fanart. peaches


But seriously I don't see LT in that picture.

JakeTheBank
Mxy turns them into candy ftw.

Colossus-Big C
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8120/5a8oc.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5577/5b6rl.jpg

i dont see the Living tribunal and thats most likely not multi infinity/eterity anyways since she was holding a single universe in her hands, ill say shes at most as powerful as multi eternity who is below the tribunal

galactusischere
She only held a visualization of a universe in her hands.

And I think that there is context behind those scans or else GS would have posted them more often the Galactus-Phoenix threads.

Galan007
laughing out loud Just so y'all know, the cosmic hierarchy was not bowing to Phoenix in that vision, they were bowing to Stranger. Here's the WHOLE instance in it's entirety (not just the cropped segments GS posted):

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2999/stranger1.th.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3161/stranger2.th.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5871/stranger3.th.jpg

JakeTheBank
Context FTW

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by TheTyrant
I can't post the scans because they no longer work.

But you can see them if you clikc on this link: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=366709&pagenumber=2

Just scroll down a bit and look at the pictures Galacticstorm had posted.
You see LT, Infinity, Eternity etc bow down to Jean Grey.

I have had never seen/rad the comic, but I assume that Phonix is uberly powerful just from that showing. If there was special context behind it, please don't hesitate to correct me.

CIS, CIP, and PIS are off.

Who wins?

LMAO. You know that I had to dig all of the X-Men Forever books to figure out the story as a whole? I spent post after post to put Galacticstorm's nonsense away with scans and then you bring up that ugly scan to pit Phoenix against Mxy.

Read Galan's scan, Mxy would stomp Phoenix. Mxy wins.

cdtm
Mxy wins, with less then a thought.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Galan007
laughing out loud Just so y'all know, the cosmic hierarchy was not bowing to Phoenix in that vision, they were bowing to Stranger. Here's the WHOLE instance in it's entirety (not just the cropped segments GS posted):

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2999/stranger1.th.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3161/stranger2.th.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5871/stranger3.th.jpg
Someone just got Galan'd. cool

753
Those scans do portray the phoenix as the ressurection force that drives the cyclical rebirth of the cosmos in the MU though, something people have denied several times here.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by 753
Those scans do portray the phoenix as the ressurection force that drives the cyclical rebirth of the cosmos in the MU though, something people have denied several times here.
Having an important role doesn't always mean you're the most powerful though. Galactus is essential to the Universe's survival but he's not beating Mxy.

753
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Having an important role doesn't always mean you're the most powerful though. Galactus is essential to the Universe's survival but he's not beating Mxy.

Yes, I never said she is the most powerfull abstract.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Galan007
laughing out loud Just so y'all know, the cosmic hierarchy was not bowing to Phoenix in that vision, they were bowing to Stranger. Here's the WHOLE instance in it's entirety (not just the cropped segments GS posted):

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2999/stranger1.th.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3161/stranger2.th.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5871/stranger3.th.jpg actually there bowing to pheonix, she is in the middle and infinity is even facing at her direction.
stranger is a nobody

Galan007
facepalm

X-Men Forever #6. Seeing as the scans I posted aren't blatant enough for you, I suggest you read the issue for yourself.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Galan007
facepalm

X-Men Forever #6. Seeing as the scans I posted aren't blatant enough for you, I suggest you read the issue for yourself. i read the issue, i even have it on my computer, there bowing to pheonix erm

Galan007
laughing out loud okay buddy, I'm not going to argue it any further with you - the scans/context of the story are clear enough (as everyone else but you has agreed.)

Colossus-Big C
who here thinks shes bowing to stranger?

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
who here thinks shes bowing to stranger?

ME.

But how did you get the issue in one day? Did you *not* illegaly download it?

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
who here thinks shes bowing to stranger?
I haven't read the issue but judging from the scans and the fact the little guys are facing Stranger (while Pheonix is off to the side) its pretty clear they're bowing to Stranger, not her.

Also Galan > You.

So yeah.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I haven't read the issue but judging from the scans and the fact the little guys are facing Stranger (while Pheonix is off to the side) its pretty clear they're bowing to Stranger, not her.

Also Galan > You.

So yeah. thumb up Quite obvious who thy are bowing to

753
Originally posted by TheTyrant
ME.

But how did you get the issue in one day? Did you *not* illegaly download it?


My god! What sort of a soulles monster would download comics from the internet and then read them?

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by TheTyrant


But how did you get the issue in one day? Did you *not* illegaly download it? i brought it at the store wink

TheTyrant
But why would they bow down to Stranger>

Colossus-Big C
^which is what i also want to know ,when i think galactus and infinity,eternity and even full pheonix force are>>>stranger

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^which is what i also want to know ,when i think galactus and infinity,eternity and even full pheonix force are>>>stranger
Stranger is of great importance. After all he had the potential to become the Living Tribunal's fourth face.

753
Nobody is actually bowing to stranger, eternity is just explaining the stranger plans to detonate the potential the celestials instilled in the human race - the power to originate the Eternity of the next encarnation of the universe - thus anticipating the end of the cosmos in a fashion he'd control (by harvesting the power) so that nobody but himself survives. He would then be left as master of everything and subjugate the cosmos. This obviously never happens, the picture is just there to illustrate eternity's speech.

Galan007
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^which is what i also want to know ,when i think galactus and infinity,eternity and even full pheonix force are>>>stranger You say you have the issue, correct? If so, the simple way to answer your question(s) is by READING it.

Originally posted by 753
Nobody is actually bowing to stranger, eternity is just explaining the stranger plans to detonate the potential the celestials instilled in the human race - the power to originate the Eternity of the next encarnation of the universe - thus anticipating the end of the cosmos in a fashion he'd control (by harvesting the power) so that nobody but himself survives. He would then be left as master of everything and subjugate the cosmos. This obviously never happens, the picture is just there to illustrate eternity's speech. clapclap

(hence why I made it a point to say "vision" in my original post.)

Lord Feron
Originally posted by 753
Nobody is actually bowing to stranger, eternity is just explaining the stranger plans to detonate the potential the celestials instilled in the human race - the power to originate the Eternity of the next encarnation of the universe - thus anticipating the end of the cosmos in a fashion he'd control (by harvesting the power) so that nobody but himself survives. He would then be left as master of everything and subjugate the cosmos. This obviously never happens, the picture is just there to illustrate eternity's speech.

WORD!

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
actually there bowing to pheonix, she is in the middle and infinity is even facing at her direction.
stranger is a nobody

Phoenix isn't in the itself vision. She's experiencing the vision created for her by Eternity to reveal the Stranger's plan. That's the artist's depiction of her in the center experiencing all these revelations. I.E., it's not possible for the abstracts to bowing before her when she's not in the vision at all.

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