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Who wins?

Depends on if Morg's wired differently or not.

Yo.

how many being have we seen can resist the ALE??





Tazer

Orion /w ALE and rather easily.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Orion /w ALE and rather easily. So you're ignoring the fc version of the ale?

Orion.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're ignoring the fc version of the ale?

well, Orion didnt have the ALE in FC , so why would any1 use *that particular version* of it?




Tazer

this is spite. orion wins with a single word.

Orion commanded a Promethean Giant.. He commanded corpses to rise and act alive again.

The FC version of the ALE is bs. It's not about wiring, it's about thought and will.. Basically, sentience. If Orion spoke a word to The Spectre, he'd likely command it as easily as he did everyone else in his series..

Originally posted by leonidas
this is spite. orion wins with a single word. This.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



well, Orion didnt have the ALE in FC , so why would any1 use *that particular version* of it?




Tazer Because the ale has changed so why would I use a pretcon ale unless otherwise specified? Points to forum rules and then points at you and giggles.

Originally posted by Galan007
This.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because the ale has changed so why would I use a pretcon ale unless otherwise specified? Points to forum rules and then points at you and giggles.

well, the rules dont actually mention "Versions Of Powers or Equipment", so I dont know wat yur pointing there for.....

unlike U, I think most ppl here simply figured that OP meant the ALE as it was when he was in possession of it; congrats on singling yurself out for NOT thinking.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



well, the rules dont actually mention "Versions Of Powers or Equipment", so I dont know wat yur pointing there for.....

unlike U, I think most ppl here simply figured that OP meant the ALE as it was when he was in possession of it; congrats on singling yurself out for NOT thinking.




Tazer By default we use current versions to the current ale.

No its clearly referring to the ALE when Orion possessed it, Quan.

When something like say "Classic Strange" is named in the OP we don't use Current Strange by default. Simple logic that seems to elude your grasp.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No its clearly referring to the ALE when Orion possessed it, Quan.

When something like say "Classic Strange" is named in the OP we don't use Current Strange by default. Simple logic that seems to elude your grasp. Sorry, but it's current ale until I get told otherwise by the thread starter. I am going by the rules here, brah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sorry, but it's current ale until I get told otherwise by the thread starter. I am going by the rules here, brah.
No you're ignoring context and twisting things in your favor.

Orion never possessed the FC ALE and as far as I'm concerned the FC ALE is a completely different animal from Starlin's ALE.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No you're ignoring context and twisting things in your favor.

Orion never possessed the FC ALE and as far as I'm concerned the FC ALE is a completely different animal from Starlin's ALE. Is Orion possessing the current ale so beyond your comprehension?

Orion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is Orion possessing the current ale so beyond your comprehension?
(1) He doesn't have the Current ALE in this fight unless stated in the OP. There's no reason to assume he meant anything but the version of Orion with the ALE. If the WOL appeared later on at drastically reduced power then would you then assume that Morg /w WOL meant Morg with that WOL? Of course not. Why would you?

(2) Even with "Current" ALE Orion wins.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
By default we use current versions to the current ale.

I dont see any default rulings on "Universal Powers".........




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



I dont see any default rulings on "Universal Powers".........




Tazer We use the most current versions of the characters and items. If you say preretcon ale then I can see your aside but since they don't it's not fair game.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We use the most current versions of the characters and items. If you say preretcon ale then I can see your aside but since they don't it's not fair game.

Orion is dead. That's the most current version of Orion.

Anyways using Orion when he had the ALE, Orion speaks one word and Morg is enslaved. Orion takes this match in a rage stomp.

Orion via single word.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is Orion possessing the current ale so beyond your comprehension?

Orion was dead at the point it took that form.

Orion actually had the ALE at one point, or as that form is normally called, "Orion with the ALE."

Originally posted by Q99
Orion was dead at the point it took that form.

Orion actually had the ALE at one point, or as that form is normally called, "Orion with the ALE."

Yeah, Orion with the ALE usually refers to the specific version from Simonson's Orion series.

I entered this thread wondering why the discussion has lasted so long.

It's the magic of Quanchi.

LOL

I find it hilarious how everyone had to break down "Orion with the ALE".

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Orion is dead. That's the most current version of Orion.

Anyways using Orion when he had the ALE, Orion speaks one word and Morg is enslaved. Orion takes this match in a rage stomp. So we go back to the most current pre death and the most current ale. This isn't hard to figure out.

Originally posted by Q99
Orion was dead at the point it took that form.

Orion actually had the ALE at one point, or as that form is normally called, "Orion with the ALE." That Orion wins but with the new ale I could see it not working and remain undecided.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I entered this thread wondering why the discussion has lasted so long.

It's the magic of Quanchi. Just following the rules, amigo.

^ Trolling is against the rules, amigo. vin

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We use the most current versions of the characters and items. If you say preretcon ale then I can see your aside but since they don't it's not fair game.


I see no ruling that mentions anything about items.........




Tazer

Orion in a sh** stomp.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ Trolling is against the rules, amigo. vin I explained myself. Worry about your little brother and not me.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.




I see no ruling that mentions anything about items.........




Tazer So it only applies to characters and not items?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I explained myself. Worry about your little brother and not me.


My little brother is doing better now. Unlike you he has the capacity to learn to not be butthurt and recalcitrant.

So to reiterate, 16 year old > you, a 29 year old in terms of maturity and learning potential.
vin

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just following the rules, amigo.

You sure are one stand up guy Quanchi!

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So it only applies to characters and not items?

ya might wanna get an official ruling, but as it stands now I can find no actual ruling on "item-versions".

now, perhaps Ive overlooked it. I could possibly have done so. if U see where the rulings encompass items, or even mention them, then plz by all means quote it here.




Tazer

Originally posted by Omega Vision
My little brother is doing better now. Unlike you he has the capacity to learn to not be butthurt and recalcitrant.

So to reiterate, 16 year old > you, a 29 year old in terms of maturity and learning potential.
vin I am just giving my opinion in this thread in which you get all offended by my opinion not the other way around.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You sure are one stand up guy Quanchi! Glad someone finally noticed.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



ya might wanna get an official ruling, but as it stands now I can find no actual ruling on "item-versions".

now, perhaps Ive overlooked it. I could possibly have done so. if U see where the rulings encompass items, or even mention them, then plz by all means quote it here.




Tazer So what's the rule if not otherwise specified what do you think it is?

Orion wins

It's obvious this thread means Orion when he had the ALE, as in that specific incarnation of Orion. It's no different than WWH Sentry, WW3 Black Adam, OF Thor, DoV Captain Marvel, etc. I don't see how anyone can get any other meaning from it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's obvious this thread means Orion when he had the ALE, as in that specific incarnation of Orion. It's no different than WWH Sentry, WW3 Black Adam, OF Thor, DoV Captain Marvel, etc. I don't see how anyone can get any other meaning from it.

http://images.killermovies.com/forums/moresmilies/yes.gif I think quanchi's overthinking this.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So what's the rule if not otherwise specified what do you think it is?

I dont see any rulings on inventory that yur trying to assert.......




Tazer

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Orion doesn't need the ALE to beat this chump.

Orion tells Morg to fist himself

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



I dont see any rulings on inventory that yur trying to assert.......




Tazer So you think it honestly only pertains to characters? Seriously?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think it honestly only pertains to characters? Seriously?

It's referring to that specific incarnation of the character, Quan. facepalm

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's referring to that specific incarnation of the character, Quan. facepalm That's not specified. I think since the ale has been retconned it's current Orion as it can be with the ale as anyone can be given the ale and we know what they are capable of.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not specified. I think since the ale has been retconned it's current Orion as it can be with the ale as anyone can be given the ale and we know what they are capable of.


So, Drax and Champion are as efficient with the power gem as Thanos was when he had it?

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
So, Drax and Champion are as efficient with the power gem as Thanos was when he had it? Not even close. They didn't even understand it at all just on a subconscious level were they even tapping into it.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think it honestly only pertains to characters? Seriously?

can U show me where they mention it?




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



can U show me where they mention it?




Tazer In the rule section of this board. I think you're a big enough man to locate it on your own.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the rule section of this board. I think you're a big enough man to locate it on your own.

Ive lookd and cant find any mention of items made within; perhaps U can quote the passage that mentions it/them plz?




Tazer

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's obvious this thread means Orion when he had the ALE, as in that specific incarnation of Orion. It's no different than WWH Sentry, WW3 Black Adam, OF Thor, DoV Captain Marvel, etc. I don't see how anyone can get any other meaning from it. It isn't possible to get any other meaning.

However, it is possible to try to manipulate the characters being used in an attempt to get your character to win. Which is what I gather is going on in the quotes I've glanced over.

****ing troll. geez.

Originally posted by Tazer
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Ive lookd and cant find any mention of items made within; perhaps U can quote the passage that mentions it/them plz?




Tazer By default we use current versions of characters so obviously we use current versions of weapons as well.

orion without ale still wins

Originally posted by Stunner2xx
orion without ale still wins Against Morg with the wol? For real?

Orion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Against Morg with the wol? For real?

If he actually used the Astro Force to it's full potential, maybe..

He did stop a universal implosion bomb with it, along with lesser feats of causing catastrophic earthquakes on Earth from fighting on the moon.

Quan, quit it. it's pre FC ALE Orion.

and you are the LAST person on this board that should even try and quote the rules.

Originally posted by cdtm
If he actually used the Astro Force to it's full potential, maybe..

He did stop a universal implosion bomb with it, along with lesser feats of causing catastrophic earthquakes on Earth from fighting on the moon. So what? We've seen Thor also do insane things with his hammer but against powerful threats like Kurse or Mangog or Surtur he gets his butt kicked most of the time. Orion isn't messing up Superman and MM at the same time whereas Morg was dominating a team full of heralds like they were nothing.

LOL!

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan, quit it. it's pre FC ALE Orion.

and you are the LAST person on this board that should even try and quote the rules.

Anyhow...Originally posted by Galan007
For starters, Orion /w/ ALE was able to control..

Darkseid:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1926/orion7.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6266/orion8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3618/orion9.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8343/orion10.jpg
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Metron and Darkseid:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9315/orion5.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1966/orion6.jpg
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And a Promethean Giant:
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8029/orion1.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2894/orion2.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1968/orion3.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7813/orion4.jpg Again, he ends this battle with a single word/thought.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
By default we use current versions of characters so obviously we use current versions of weapons as well.

is that a direct quote?

doesnt look like it to me.........

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan, quit it. it's pre FC ALE Orion.

and you are the LAST person on this board that should even try and quote the rules.






Tazer

Originally posted by cdtm
If he actually used the Astro Force to it's full potential, maybe..

He did stop a universal implosion bomb with it, along with lesser feats of causing catastrophic earthquakes on Earth from fighting on the moon. Doubtful.Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan, quit it. it's pre FC ALE Orion.

and you are the LAST person on this board that should even try and quote the rules. Ok, the pretcon ale wins. I wasn't sure.

Originally posted by Tazer
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is that a direct quote?

doesnt look like it to me.........








Tazer Pretcon ale wins the current one loses.

^ You weren't sure?



Classic Quan.

Orion w/ale.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ You weren't sure?



Classic Quan. I wasn't sure which ale was meant here. I stated that how many times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I wasn't sure which ale was meant here. I stated that how many times.
You knew exactly what it meant but tried to twist things so that Morg won.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You knew exactly what it meant but tried to twist things so that Morg won. No, I wasn't sure because of the current if not otherwise stated rule. I'm no Morg fan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I wasn't sure because of the current if not otherwise stated rule. I'm no Morg fan.
But you are a Marvel Zombie, so naturally you'd want the Marvel character to win.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But you are a Marvel Zombie, so naturally you'd want the Marvel character to win. Not at all. I love certain dc characters such as Prime and Black Adam. I give Superman the win over Gladiator when I don't have to I give it to who I think wins not who I like more. That's a common misconception.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You knew exactly what it meant but tried to twist things so that Morg won.

yep.

Yo.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You knew exactly what it meant but tried to twist things so that Morg won.

TRUTH

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. I love certain dc characters such as Prime and Black Adam. I give Superman the win over Gladiator when I don't have to I give it to who I think wins not who I like more. That's a common misconception.

MARVEL ZOMBIE!!!

http://images.dailyfill.com/faee87b8a65148b2_91f468af118aa9cf_o.jpg




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



TRUTH



MARVEL ZOMBIE!!!

http://images.dailyfill.com/faee87b8a65148b2_91f468af118aa9cf_o.jpg




Tazer It's just not true.

Originally posted by cdtm
http://images.killermovies.com/forums/moresmilies/yes.gif I think quanchi's overthinking this. Over what?

Orion with the ALE is a beast.

That's not what I meant.

Originally posted by cdtm
Over whether Orion with the ALE meant Orion with the latest version of the ALE, or Orion when he had the ALE, e.g. that specific version of Orion from Simonsons Orion series. He's attempting a funny which in the end just confused a few people so it wasn't funny at all.

Originally posted by lawest9
Orion with the ALE is a beast.

too bad it was short lived.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
too bad it was short lived. Indeed.

Too bad the series was short lived, not Orion with the ALE.