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Glads is at full confidence and lets say that his confidence does not decrease throughout the fight.
Classic Apocalypse.
Wonder Woman with standard gear.
Current, main continuity Superman.

CIS, CIP, and PIS are off.


Marvel or DC?

Gladiator losses due to a very shitty partner.

Why do you hate Gladiator to the point you'd handicap him so severely?

lol

Team Two.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gladiator losses due to a very shitty partner.

Why do you hate Gladiator to the point you'd handicap him so severely?

From the characters here, I only hate Superman. Please do tell how Apocalypse is lesser than Diana in anyway.

Teeeaaam 2

gladiators knocks out diana then from there him and apoc take on clark

Originally posted by TheTyrant
From the characters here, I only hate Superman. Please do tell how Apocalypse is lesser than Diana in anyway.

Really? It seemed like you hated Gladiator due how badly you stacked the odds against him.

She doesn't have a fear of tables for one.

Originally posted by chomperx9
gladiators knocks out diana then from there him and apoc take on clark

More like Diana soul rapes him or Apoc.

Tyrant, stop making Apocalypse threads. People here have made their minds about Apocalypse. You can't change that.

With that said, I'm siding with team 1. Gladiator >= Superman, Apocalypse > Wonder Woman - IMHO.

Agre....

Ah, screw it, Wondey cuts off 'Pocky's head with her Tierra.

Than Glads cleans house.

This is not as loopsided as other Apoc threads, sadly the lasso OHKOes quite fast and Apocalypse is not fast enough from the get to go.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
More like Diana soul rapes him or Apoc. gladiator doesnt need some bracelets to block attacks. his body is just as invulnerable as supermans.

Originally posted by chomperx9
gladiator doesnt need some bracelets to block attacks. his body is just as invulnerable as supermans.

lmao

Okay? Glad can be made out of pure adamantium as can another certain someone in this match. It doesn't prevent him from being soul raped by the lasso.

Glads needs a better partner.

Supes > Glads because of feats.

WW takes care of Apoc.

T2 wins.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lmao

Okay? Glad can be made out of pure adamantium as can another certain someone in this match. It doesn't prevent him from being soul raped by the lasso. yeah every fight that diana is in she just stands there and waits for the enemy to be soul raped by the lasso cause diana never has to use her body to defend herself right ?

Originally posted by The Nuul
Glads needs a better partner.

Supes > Glads because of feats.
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What feats are these?

Originally posted by chomperx9
yeah every fight that diana is in she just stands there and waits for the enemy to be soul raped by the lasso cause diana never has to use her body to defend herself right ?

You speak as if Apoc or Glads have a choice.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You speak as if Apoc or Glads have a choice. gladiator and apoc can 1st take out diana then from there go after supes

It's really sad that people think WW can take Apocalypse.

Originally posted by chomperx9
gladiator and apoc can 1st take out diana then from there go after supes

Nah.

Superman will probably take on Glads and beat him down as Diana utterly stomps Apoc with superior speed, fighting prowess, strength, and just about everything else that matters.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
It's really sad that people think WW can take Apocalypse.

It's funny because she can!

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/1259270602974.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers19.png

But of course it doesn't matter. Apocalypse may very well punch down the Living Tribunal but the haters are gonna hate.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers19.png

But of course it doesn't matter. Apocalypse may very well punch down the Living Tribunal but the haters are gonna hate.

What does this prove, if anything?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What does this prove, if anything?

He warps reality. But of course we all know Superman or Wonder Woman can resist that. Amirite?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
It's really sad that people think WW can take Apocalypse.

It's pretty sad people think Apoc can take WW She's one of the stronger people in DC, definitely high-herald.


Especially the "take out WW first, then go after Superman" comments- she has better defense than he does if she focuses on it.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Tyrant, stop making Apocalypse threads. People here have made their minds about Apocalypse. You can't change that.

With that said, I'm siding with team 1. Gladiator >= Superman, Apocalypse > Wonder Woman - IMHO.

They have to learn someday.

Good man.

Originally posted by chomperx9
gladiators knocks out diana then from there him and apoc take on clark

Another good man.

Originally posted by Q99
It's pretty sad people think Apoc can take WW She's one of the stronger people in DC, definitely high-herald.


Especially the "take out WW first, then go after Superman" comments- she has better defense than he does if she focuses on it.

How is it sad when only 3 people think it? I have nothing against Wonder Woman but come on. How does Diana stomp Apocalypse?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
How is it sad when only 3 people think it? I have nothing against Wonder Woman but come on. How does Diana stomp Apocalypse?

Faster, stronger, has two weapons which can mess him up with out much trouble, better fighter, among the best defenses in comicdom, etc.

Apocalypse can use matter manipulation on powerless and defenseless primitives. He turns Superman and Wonder Woman into rocks.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Nah.

Superman will probably take on Glads and beat him down as Diana utterly stomps Apoc with superior speed, fighting prowess, strength, and just about everything else that matters.

Where is the opinion of Superman > Gladiator coming from?

High end Glads stuff is pretty uberized, and mentioned enough times where it's common knowledge. 100x light speed, and not just fan measured feats but in comic instrument measured feats, along with the usual planet busting feats, and getting up from Tyrants attack.

What does Supes have on that?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Faster, stronger, has two weapons which can mess him up with out much trouble, better fighter, among the best defenses in comicdom, etc.
Faster? Diana on a consistent basis gets tagged by metas like Deathstroke or Batman.
Stronger? Apocalypse at base size is stronger than base Hulk and can and has grown to be 100s of fts tall. 10000s if we count that fan art.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Apocalypse can use matter manipulation on powerless and defenseless primitives. He turns Superman and Wonder Woman into rocks.
How is that matter manipulation? That is reality warping. Superman ain't resisting that.

Originally posted by cdtm
Where is the opinion of Superman > Gladiator coming from?

High end Glads stuff is pretty uberized, and mentioned enough times where it's common knowledge. 100x light speed, and not just fan measured feats but in comic instrument measured feats, along with the usual planet busting feats..

What does Supes have on that?

Feats?

Originally posted by cdtm
Where is the opinion of Superman > Gladiator coming from?

High end Glads stuff is pretty uberized, and mentioned enough times where it's common knowledge. 100x light speed, and not just fan measured feats but in comic instrument measured feats, along with the usual planet busting feats, and getting up from Tyrants attack.

What does Supes have on that?

He has the fanboy power on that.

Originally posted by Q99
It's pretty sad people think Apoc can take WW She's one of the stronger people in DC, definitely high-herald.

mmm

Nvr?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
How is that matter manipulation? That is reality warping. Superman ain't resisting that.

Where exactly is the reality warping?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where exactly is the reality warping?

When he turned Oxymandias into stone from distance. That's not reality warping? Ok, how about this?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe33.png

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Faster? Diana on a consistent basis gets tagged by metas like Deathstroke or Batman.
Stronger? Apocalypse at base size is stronger than base Hulk and can and has grown to be 100s of fts tall. 10000s if we count that fan art.



She's faster than Apoc in terms of flight speed and eye/hand coordination, which means in close quarters, she's going to mess him up. That "feat" of restraining Hulk is misinterpreted and twisted more times than it's shown for what it is. He used his cables and restricted Hulk's movement from a superior position. Leverage and physics come to mind. Maybe if Apoc bested him in a test of strength, I'd concede that point to you. Diana can use her lasso and perform the exact same feat.

And LOL at "if we count that fan art".

Apoc has no resistance to a bladed tiara that can rend virtually anything it comes in contact with nor can he resist being caught in the soul equivalent of a napalm explosion.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
When he turned Oxymandias into stone from distance. That's not reality warping? Ok, how about this?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe33.png

Turning someone into stone doesn't have to be reality manipulation.

How is that reality manipulation?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


She's faster than Apoc in terms of flight speed and eye/hand coordination, which means in close quarters, she's going to mess him up. That "feat" of restraining Hulk is misinterpreted and twisted more times than it's shown for what it is. He used his cables and restricted Hulk's movement from a superior position. Leverage and physics come to mind. Maybe if Apoc bested him in a test of strength, I'd concede that point to you. Diana can use her lasso and perform the exact same feat.

And LOL at "if we count that fan art".

Apoc has no resistance to a bladed tiara that can rend virtually anything it comes in contact with nor can he resist being caught in the soul equivalent of a napalm explosion.
What?
Those 'cables' are actually his arms
How do you think he got in that position in the first place? By teleporting...
Apocalypse has near impenetrable force fields, the lasso would not work.
Apocalypse can dodge the tiara, Diana would not the dodge the reality warping.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Turning someone into stone doesn't have to be reality manipulation.

How is that reality manipulation?
From range.

Creating a walking, partially sentinet, superbeing out of nothing from miles away is not reality warping? Then what is may I ask?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Feats?

You can't ignore the full-confidence stipulation, which means that we ONLY get to count Glads' top feats (which is complete BS and why he shouldn't be used on forum fights); these include killing a pheonix, one-shotting vulcan, moving 100x speed of light, taking a supernova-level blast like it was nothing, smashing planets, breaking hyperion's back, flying through stars, etc. etc. You could argue that Supes' high feats are similar, but they are off-set by low-end feats in the forum fight, whereas "full confidence" gladiator's are not, making him significantly more powerful in a forum fight.

That said, it is obvious that the lasso will destroy apoc, and that together diana and clark will beat gladiator. This reality-altering, adamantium sky-scraper crap with apocalypse must stop. No matter what the handbooks say his powers are, the only versions of apocalypse that resemble Tyrant's mental picture of him are in the cartoons.

gladiator is clone to mock Superman. the copy cant beat the original in this case since it was made to mock superman and lose in serious fights

the dude lost to savage hulk for goodness sakes.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
gladiator is clone to mock Superman. the copy cant beat the original in this case since it was made to mock superman and lose in serious fights

the dude lost to savage hulk for goodness sakes.

Cloning means nothing in a forum, and again, the full-confidence stipulation means that we can only consider his top-feats.

Planets don't fight back.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
How is it sad when only 3 people think it? I have nothing against Wonder Woman but come on. How does Diana stomp Apocalypse?

She's faster than Superman in HtH, her weapons would also let her hurt him just fine- tiara or axe for inflicting wounds, or lasso that bypasses toughness entirely. Plus recently a nasty magic lightning attack in close. In pure melee, she outdoes just about any herald leveler in DC, including those that are stronger than her, which can be counted on one hand with fingers left over, and even then not by much. When it comes to speed, her arch enemy is the fastest non-Flash/Zoom around, pretty much, and she's also caught and dealt with both Flash and Zoom themselves.

Defensively, that hand speed lets her block most stuff at range, and against impacts and energy attacks she's in the same league as Superman. Apoc does have blade attacks, but she's kept fighting with major wounds of that nature (after all, said arch-enemy with super speed is a class 100+ with magic claws on her hands)- just because they cause more bleeding doesn't mean they're an easy way to take her down, and she does have both a healing factor and godly endurance.


Between her own high stats, extreme skill, and a pretty devastating arsenal of gear, she's one of only about two heroes who have regularly been able to stalemate Superman (Captain Marvel being the other).

Being really big won't help against Diana because she can bracer-block even huge things and it'll just let her outmaneuver Apoc with precise strikes, and at normal size, she's probably the stronger and definitely the more dangerous melee fighter.

Apoc is definitely a "power" fighter, and that's a poor match-up against Wonder Woman due to the nature of her gear. More skill-based approaches do better.

Pure toughness won't do against her weapons, nor will pure strength against her defenses.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
What?
Those 'cables' are actually his arms
How do you think he got in that position in the first place? By teleporting...
Apocalypse has near impenetrable force fields, the lasso would not work.
Apocalypse can dodge the tiara, Diana would not the dodge the reality warping.


From range.

Creating a walking, partially sentinet, superbeing out of nothing from miles away is not reality warping? Then what is may I ask? Sersi has turned half a dozen people to stone and turned a room full of furniture into a living music-playing band. Ozymandias isn't reality warping, it's one instance of not particularly impressive matter manipulation. It's retarded red-headed stepchild gimp matter manipulation compared to Sersi, and she would lose to either Superman or Wonder Woman.

The Scarab Beast isn't even matter manipulation let alone "reality manipulation". It emerges from the sand.

Also show Apocalypse generating a forcefield at all let alone a "near-impenetrable" one.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He has the fanboy power on that.

amazing how you can b*tch and whine about haters and then come out with stuff like that.