who would be of better use to the military

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Colossus-Big C
angel vs invisible woman vs blob vs colossus vs captain america vs rhino

who would be the best of use

Parmaniac
By far Invisible Woman

then Colossus

Mshinu
Invisible Woman by a mile, she can be of immense use to any unit in nearly every kind of operation.

Cap is most useful as a morale raiser and for public relations.

Angel has some uses for recon and such.

The rest are just good for reinforcing assault.

The Nuul
Rhino, put him on the other team and he'd kill his own teammates when they are not expecting it.

basilisk
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
angel vs invisible woman vs blob vs colossus vs captain america vs rhino

who would be the best of use

Our world's military? Or the MU?

If it's our world:

Invisible Woman could definitely be used for spying, black ops, assassinations, and other assorted espionage. Even if she got caught, she's well equipped to fight her way out of many situations against conventional weapons, until she can go invisible again and escape. She has deadly limited range attacks and can kill instantly and undetectably from a distance. But aside from that the military would no doubt study how her invisibility powers work to see if they can mimic the effect and apply it to other people and objects.

Colossus could be useful as a weapon in some battlefield scenarios. He really could just wade into a fight and take out everything from enemy soldiers up to tanks, without huge trouble. He's probably immune to biological, chemical and radioactive attacks (not nukes). But he is still limited - he operates on a small scale, isn't fast without transport, and has no range attacks. And the enemy aren't stupid - they would learn to avoid him, and perhaps eventually even damage or disable him. Ultimately the military already has weapons that can cause more damage than he can. Not as useful as he first seems.

Blob doesn't offer much else than Colossus does, except that he's slower, weaker(?), less intelligent, and perhaps less resilient and more vulnerable to chemical, bio, radioactive, gas weapons etc. And he would eat all the damn food in the camp.

Rhino is too stupid to be of much use. Besides he doesn't offer much that Blob and Colossus can't, other than perhaps speed, and shares Blob's weaknesses. The enemy might even trick him into fighting for them.

Captain America would have limited use in the real world if he is operating under real world peak human (or slightly above peak human) levels. He would simply get killed running around fighting in a place like Afghanistan with just a shield, a gaudy costume, and no guns. As a propaganda symbol he also probably wouldn't go down well either, except perhaps in the USA. He might have a place as a regular soldier or trainer but still no great advantage.

Angel would be for good target practice.


Overall I'd go with IW then Colossus.

Mshinu
Originally posted by The Nuul
Rhino, put him on the other team and he'd kill his own teammates when they are not expecting it.

Good point. Put Blob with the enemy too and their food supplies dissapear. big grin

amnesia
Originally posted by basilisk
Our world's military? Or the MU?

If it's our world:

Invisible Woman could definitely be used for spying, black ops, assassinations, and other assorted espionage. Even if she got caught, she's well equipped to fight her way out of many situations against conventional weapons, until she can go invisible again and escape. She has deadly limited range attacks and can kill instantly and undetectably from a distance. But aside from that the military would no doubt study how her invisibility powers work to see if they can mimic the effect and apply it to other people and objects.

Colossus could be useful as a weapon in some battlefield scenarios. He really could just wade into a fight and take out everything from enemy soldiers up to tanks, without huge trouble. He's probably immune to biological, chemical and radioactive attacks (not nukes). But he is still limited - he operates on a small scale, isn't fast without transport, and has no range attacks. And the enemy aren't stupid - they would learn to avoid him, and perhaps eventually even damage or disable him. Ultimately the military already has weapons that can cause more damage than he can. Not as useful as he first seems.

Blob doesn't offer much else than Colossus does, except that he's slower, weaker(?), less intelligent, and perhaps less resilient and more vulnerable to chemical, bio, radioactive, gas weapons etc. And he would eat all the damn food in the camp.

Rhino is too stupid to be of much use. Besides he doesn't offer much that Blob and Colossus can't, other than perhaps speed, and shares Blob's weaknesses. The enemy might even trick him into fighting for them.

Captain America would have limited use in the real world if he is operating under real world peak human (or slightly above peak human) levels. He would simply get killed running around fighting in a place like Afghanistan with just a shield, a gaudy costume, and no guns. As a propaganda symbol he also probably wouldn't go down well either, except perhaps in the USA. He might have a place as a regular soldier or trainer but still no great advantage.

Angel would be for good target practice.


Overall I'd go with IW then Colossus.


Cap can count all the hairs on your head in a second. His brain works extremely fast. That's his thing..

Colossus-Big C
yea cap would work great as a commanding officer

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yea cap would work great as a commanding officer Wich military are we talking about, the Marvel Universe or Real World?
Plus what do you mean by "use" at first I thought about researching their powers and "copy paste" them on normal soldiers.

753
Originally posted by basilisk
Our world's military? Or the MU?

If it's our world:

Invisible Woman could definitely be used for spying, black ops, assassinations, and other assorted espionage. Even if she got caught, she's well equipped to fight her way out of many situations against conventional weapons, until she can go invisible again and escape. She has deadly limited range attacks and can kill instantly and undetectably from a distance. But aside from that the military would no doubt study how her invisibility powers work to see if they can mimic the effect and apply it to other people and objects.

Colossus could be useful as a weapon in some battlefield scenarios. He really could just wade into a fight and take out everything from enemy soldiers up to tanks, without huge trouble. He's probably immune to biological, chemical and radioactive attacks (not nukes). But he is still limited - he operates on a small scale, isn't fast without transport, and has no range attacks. And the enemy aren't stupid - they would learn to avoid him, and perhaps eventually even damage or disable him. Ultimately the military already has weapons that can cause more damage than he can. Not as useful as he first seems.

Blob doesn't offer much else than Colossus does, except that he's slower, weaker(?), less intelligent, and perhaps less resilient and more vulnerable to chemical, bio, radioactive, gas weapons etc. And he would eat all the damn food in the camp.

Rhino is too stupid to be of much use. Besides he doesn't offer much that Blob and Colossus can't, other than perhaps speed, and shares Blob's weaknesses. The enemy might even trick him into fighting for them.

Captain America would have limited use in the real world if he is operating under real world peak human (or slightly above peak human) levels. He would simply get killed running around fighting in a place like Afghanistan with just a shield, a gaudy costume, and no guns. As a propaganda symbol he also probably wouldn't go down well either, except perhaps in the USA. He might have a place as a regular soldier or trainer but still no great advantage.

Angel would be for good target practice.


Overall I'd go with IW then Colossus.

Well put and I think that even in the USA, CA would be laughed at as a propaganda poster boy. The concept of a flag wearing mascot soldier is too retarded.

psycho gundam
in the real world

1) sue. her invisibility power is a huge asset, doesn't need explanation.


2) rhino. his suit's hide and chemical enhancement will be a huge asset to organizations like DARPA and all those weapons/armour manufacturers. they'd dissect the shit out of him.

3) (in far third) captain america. moral support, black-ops missions, etc

4) all the rest cause they're not very viable aside from being hot dropped into combat

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Wich military are we talking about, the Marvel Universe or Real World?
Plus what do you mean by "use" at first I thought about researching their powers and "copy paste" them on normal soldiers. real world.
and yea imean who would be more useful as a soilder or spy etc along side military

amnesia
Originally posted by psycho gundam
in the real world

1) sue. her invisibility power is a huge asset, doesn't need explanation.


2) rhino. his suit's hide and chemical enhancement will be a huge asset to organizations like DARPA and all those weapons/armour manufacturers. they'd dissect the shit out of him.

3) (in far third) captain america. moral support, black-ops missions, etc

4) all the rest cause they're not very viable aside from being hot dropped into combat

Colossus is a bulletproof Russian badass that can rip a tanks to pieces. That's pretty useful.

Black bolt z
Invisible woma by far.

If rhino doesn't act extremely stupid he would be second best.

Cap would be third due to experience,leadership abilities,possibly black opps and moral booster.He'd be better then you guys think.

Galan007
I have a question where IW is concerned... Does her invisibility also mask her body heat? If so, then she would definitely be an excellent infiltrator. If not then there is a very good chance that she would be picked off miles before even reaching her target, via thermal imaging cameras.

Imo, either Cap or Colossus would be the best overall choices. Rhino is WAY too stupid.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by The Nuul
Rhino, put him on the other team and he'd kill his own teammates when they are not expecting it. laughing

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Galan007
I have a question where IW is concerned... Does her invisibility also mask her body heat? If so, then she would definitely be an excellent infiltrator. If not then there is a very good chance that she would be picked off miles before even reaching her target, via thermal imaging cameras.

Imo, either Cap or Colossus would be the best overall choices. Rhino is WAY too stupid. Acctually I just thought of something.I don't believe it masks her body heat and there are very simple ways to catch her.Once the FF was trying to beat up yancy streeters so the yancys threw sand on the ground.They saw her step knowing where she is.The elaborate methods probably don't work as well as the simple ones.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Galan007
I have a question where IW is concerned... Does her invisibility also mask her body heat? If so, then she would definitely be an excellent infiltrator. If not then there is a very good chance that she would be picked off miles before even reaching her target, via thermal imaging cameras im not sure if she is invisible to thermal mmm

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Galan007
I have a question where IW is concerned... Does her invisibility also mask her body heat? If so, then she would definitely be an excellent infiltrator. If not then there is a very good chance that she would be picked off miles before even reaching her target, via thermal imaging cameras.

Imo, either Cap or Colossus would be the best overall choices. Rhino is WAY too stupid. what about blob

Colossus-Big C
im assuming the army would develop a suit for her that would hide her body heat

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
im assuming the army would develop a suit for her that would hide her body heat Have her hold up a white bed sheet.It worked on mythbusters peaches

psycho gundam
Originally posted by amnesia
Colossus is a bulletproof Russian badass that can rip a tanks to pieces. That's pretty useful.

i'd rather have thousands of enhanced soldiers that can possibly take bullets than one guy who will limit himself against normal humans.

Parmaniac
How do wanna catch Sue? She has force fields.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Galan007
I have a question where IW is concerned... Does her invisibility also mask her body heat? If so, then she would definitely be an excellent infiltrator. If not then there is a very good chance that she would be picked off miles before even reaching her target, via thermal imaging cameras.

Imo, either Cap or Colossus would be the best overall choices. Rhino is WAY too stupid. she sits shotgun in a bomber and just makes an invisible shield over the bomber so it's not there and can't be shot even on the infinitesimal chance it's found

mix in some political threatening and you basically have a metal gear solid situation that nobody can do anything about http://i47.tinypic.com/2zitpxe.gif

cities would just disapear biscuits

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Parmaniac
How do wanna catch Sue? She has force fields. Sand on the ground...then just keep firing.You've got a base of soliders they will have enough bullets to take her down.Sooner or later she has to let up.

Galan007
Force-fields wouldn't be overly helpful if she can be sniped/bombed from miles away..

Bouboumaster
IW by far. No one would pierce her force fields.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by psycho gundam
she sits shotgun in a bomber and just makes an invisible shield over the bomber so it's not there and can't be shot even on the infinitesimal chance it's found

mix in some political threatening and you basically have a metal gear solid situation that nobody can do anything about http://i47.tinypic.com/2zitpxe.gif

cities would just disapear biscuits If she has a forcefield around it how will it shoot?Originally posted by Galan007
Force-fields wouldn't be overly helpful if she can be sniped/bombed from miles away.. While her forcefield has taken a scream from BB for about 3 seconds.Thats impressive.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Black bolt z
If she has a forcefield around it how will it shoot? It's a semi permeable Force Field stick out tongue

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Parmaniac
It's a semi permeable Force Field stick out tongue It can go out but not in...well played.

Galan007
Originally posted by Black bolt z
While her forcefield has taken a scream from BB for about 3 seconds.Thats impressive. I'm saying she could be taken out before her force field was ever in place.

Lord_Talron
the correct phrase is selectively permeable smile

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm saying she could be taken out before her force field was ever in place. Oh.Ambush like.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
the correct phrase is selectively permeable smile In biology yes, in this case no wink

And for some reason the term stayed semi not selective the whole time from class 11-13 even that it was my teacher who told us it was wrong. Weird...

Galan007
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Oh.Ambush like. Si senor.

753
IW is by far more powerfull and usefull than the others and not just for infiltration. Without CIS she could wreck an army before anyone understood what is happening.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Galan007
Si senor. no abla esponeol

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Black bolt z
no abla esponeol Dann hast du Pech

Lord_Talron
clearly not, seeing as you fail at spelling it

753
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm saying she could be taken out before her force field was ever in place. Provided people knew who, what and where she was and could sneak in there to kill her while her guard is down. But any army in the world would keep her under more protection and secrecy than nukes. Figuring out her existence would be difficult enough to begin with.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by 753
IW is by far more powerfull and usefull than the others and not just for infiltration. Without CIS she could wreck an army before anyone understood what is happening. which is why she should never be used to merely infiltrate when her ability to instill mass fear is so much more useful

Newjak
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
angel vs invisible woman vs blob vs colossus vs captain america vs rhino

who would be the best of use

Now this is going strictly under the assumption that in the real world they can still pull of the same feats ie Captain America can do the things he can do.


1) Invisible Woman: Strictly speaking her power is just way to unattainable in the real world to not make her a game changer. She can shield large formations from air assault, bombs, fire, chemical agents.


2) Captain America: Frankly he is just too smart and too gifted to not make him a wild card. He would be the top special ops agent in the world along with its most gifted leader and strategist. There is also the X-Factor of enemy having to face him knowing who they are facing. If he is exactly like he is in comics well then you know there is no room for mistakes against him or you lose.


3) Colossus: Well let's just look at him he is basically immune to anything short of high impact bombs. He can be dropped into a battlefield simply as a tide turner and he can do it.

4) Rhino: He is essentially a lesser Colossus. Still though the possibility exists of unlocking his powers which makes possibly very useful.

5) Blob: He really isn't that useful except as maybe a high level body guard or maybe a frontline soldier but he lacks the ability to be a tide changer because he can still be taken out by more conventional means unlike the bricks ahead of him.

6) Angel: Angel really is only useful as a black ops recon guy. Put with a unit and give him some thermal dampening like device and he can be short range recon, but other than that his power just isn't really useful in a battle. Although doesn't he have a healing power now. That actually could make him a very helpful person if he does.

psycho gundam
rhino's enhancements are gold to the military, and not even assuming they could create perfect copies of him, but soldiers with 1/3 of his physical abilities plus mass production of the polymer suit he wears (not rhinoceros motif of coarse) would be overpowering for any infantry force on the planet.

imagine thousands of soldiers half as good as the punisher + 1/3 of rhino's strength and durability.....

Newjak
Originally posted by psycho gundam
rhino's enhancements are gold to the military, and not even assuming they could create perfect copies of him, but soldiers with 1/3 of his physical abilities plus mass production of the polymer suit he wears (not rhinoceros motif of coarse) would be overpowering for any infantry force on the planet. I agree but that is only if we can reproduce it which is why I put him lower than Colossus.

psycho gundam
meh, his suit amps his power which eliminates half the problem of amping the soldiers. then the gamma portion of the rhino's enhancement is cake considering the military will already have a genetically stable individual to dna test and whatnot.

they could just clone the guy or use his sperm to raise soldiers from birth. 18-20 years in the future and you have a shitload extremely capable soldiers.

Newjak
Originally posted by psycho gundam
meh, his suit amps his power which eliminates half the problem of amping the soldiers. then the gamma portion of the rhino's enhancement is cake considering the military will already have a genetically stable individual to dna test and whatnot.

they could just clone the guy or use his sperm to raise soldiers from birth. 18-20 years in the future and you have a shitload extremely capable soldiers. The cloning process is very interesting.


Of course they could also clone Colossus and use his sperm and him being a mutant creates the possibility of children being born with different abilities them being mutants as well.

With that idea Colossus may jump up to number one for me stick out tongue

amnesia
I don't think we can enhance human potential much anyway.

Warlord
Cap.

Moral and strategy is everything in the Army and those areas are Cap's specialization

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Newjak
The cloning process is very interesting.


Of course they could also clone Colossus and use his sperm and him being a mutant creates the possibility of children being born with different abilities them being mutants as well.

With that idea Colossus may jump up to number one for me stick out tongue should have kept my mouth shut uhuh

but isn't cloning mutants exeptionaly difficult?

Colossus-Big C
yea colossus has wrecked tanks with a single punches before he would do great but if he is alone they might atomic bomb him but besides that if they can focus a very high temperature laser on him it would soon start melting him

Newjak
Originally posted by psycho gundam
should have kept my mouth shut uhuh

but isn't cloning mutants exeptionaly difficult? Yes you should have stick out tongue

Probably not any harder than Rhino would be plus you can always just have him sleep with a lot of women and breed a mutant army.

That does put Colossus at number one. An army of metal men is a scary thought or an army of mutants as well.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
angel vs invisible woman vs blob vs colossus vs captain america vs rhino

who would be the best of use
The ranking is as follows:

1. Invisible Woman-A no brainer, apart from the obvious applications of being able to make things invisible her shields would also pretty much make all enemy weapons obsolete.

2. Colossus- He could single-handedly replace an entire division of tanks and smash through heavily defended choke-points as well as survive anything the enemy could throw at him.

3. Blob- Same as above though to a lesser extent.

4. Captain America-Not so much for his fighting ability or applications on the field so much as for his public relations/charisma. He'd be great for drumming up support for a war.

5. Angel- Its not like he really brings anything to the table that the military doesn't already have but I suppose he could be a morale tool in the same way Cap could, just to a lesser extent.

6. Rhino- He'd probably team-kill the entire US military, dumb-ass that he is.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
clearly not, seeing as you fail at spelling it El no passoOriginally posted by Parmaniac
Dann hast du Pech Si siniorita

Technically couldn't angel be used for a hit and run mission?He flies below the radar and drops bombs,or just provides a lot of recon from a hiding spot.He's not as useless as people might think.

Lord_Talron
cant angel still turn into archangel?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Newjak
Probably not any harder than Rhino would be idunno, most if not all cloned mutants have been created by organizations or characters quite above our world's tech, mostly due to handling the x-gene (iirc)

Originally posted by Newjak
you can always just have him sleep with a lot the rasputin blood line is not to be trifled with, letting him ust bang like crazy could create a bigger problem than any gain.

Endless Mike
Sue easily

gogogadgetgo
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
cant angel still turn into archangel?

same question, cant he turn to archangel? if so, he can be a one man airforce destroying any and all enemy fighter planes.

he'd be to fast and too agile to hit

753
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
same question, cant he turn to archangel? if so, he can be a one man airforce destroying any and all enemy fighter planes.

he'd be to fast and too agile to hit He is archangel now yes and he's already shown that he can easily destroy fighters and other aircraft.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The ranking is as follows:

1. Invisible Woman-A no brainer, apart from the obvious applications of being able to make things invisible her shields would also pretty much make all enemy weapons obsolete.

2. Colossus- He could single-handedly replace an entire division of tanks and smash through heavily defended choke-points as well as survive anything the enemy could throw at him.

3. Blob- Same as above though to a lesser extent.

4. Captain America-Not so much for his fighting ability or applications on the field so much as for his public relations/charisma. He'd be great for drumming up support for a war.

5. Angel- Its not like he really brings anything to the table that the military doesn't already have but I suppose he could be a morale tool in the same way Cap could, just to a lesser extent.

6. Rhino- He'd probably team-kill the entire US military, dumb-ass that he is. wasnt captain amerca in world war 2?
unless the real word wars are more dangerous

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
wasnt captain amerca in world war 2?
unless the real word wars are more dangerous
Captain America could certainly kick ass in Iraq (though he might want to tone down his costume) but he'd be much more valuable as a propaganda piece.

Black bolt z
What I don't undertsand it can't someone just fire a single missle at cap and hit him from above?The explosion would hit him correct?

Parmaniac
Captain America is completely useless in a real war...

753
yup and even as propaganda he'd be laughed at in the real world.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by 753
yup and even as propaganda he'd be laughed at in the real world.
Well change his costume to look less garish perhaps. (but the shield stays red white and blue)

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Black bolt z
What I don't undertsand it can't someone just fire a single missle at cap and hit him from above?The explosion would hit him correct?

The shield absorbs mechanical energy, so unlike a real dude with a shield trying to tank a missile Cap won't get smashed like a bug by the force, in fact he'll barely fell it.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by 753
yup and even as propaganda he'd be laughed at in the real world.

No in there right mind is going to laugh at a guy who take on 200 armed soldiers on his own and win... with just a shield. embarrasment

Black bolt z
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The shield absorbs mechanical energy, so unlike a real dude with a shield trying to tank a missile Cap won't get smashed like a bug by the force, in fact he'll barely fell it. I'm talking about like an all encompassing blast.I know the shield would take it but if a missle or something hit him so as the explosion just plain "curved around" the shield wouldn't it kill him?It just seems like an easy tactic to kill him people don't use.Does that make sense?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm talking about like an all encompassing blast.I know the shield would take it but if a missle or something hit him so as the explosion just plain "curved around" the shield wouldn't it kill him?It just seems like an easy tactic to kill him people don't use.Does that make sense?

Like I said, the shield absorbs energy. Hitting his shield with a missile is essentially taking the damage and timesing it by zero. There won't be any force to curve around the shield, the shield will have eaten it all.

I'm not sure if it vibranium can absorb heat energy of the top of my heat though so maybe that could get him.

TheTyrant
Colossus. There is nothing the army can do to put him down.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Like I said, the shield absorbs energy. Hitting his shield with a missile is essentially taking the damage and timesing it by zero. There won't be any force to curve around the shield, the shield will have eaten it all.

I'm not sure if it vibranium can absorb heat energy of the top of my heat though so maybe that could get him. ...you completely missed what I just said.Cap and point his shield in any one direction.If a blasts does explosion a 360 all around him his sheild wouldn't be able to absorb all the energy.This seems like an easy tactic never used.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Black bolt z
...you completely missed what I just said.Cap and point his shield in any one direction.If a blasts does explosion a 360 all around him his sheild wouldn't be able to absorb all the energy.This seems like an easy tactic never used.

Oh, like several simultaneous blasts coming from different points of origin. That should do the trick.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No in there right mind is going to laugh at a guy who take on 200 armed soldiers on his own and win... with just a shield. embarrasment Never forget he's on drugs, yeah yeah I know "Super Soldier Serum"

Black bolt z
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Oh, like several simultaneous blasts coming from different points of origin. That should do the trick. Wasn't exactly what I was thinking but yeah you get the point.I mean he was in WW2.How was he not just from several directions at a time.

753
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No in there right mind is going to laugh at a guy who take on 200 armed soldiers on his own and win... with just a shield. embarrasment

Even americans would laugh at his looks and name, let alone the rest of the world. He'd make a good tactical analyst, but nobody in their right minds would follow steroid boy wearing a flag and carrying a shield into battle.

Anyway, there's no PIS or CIS in te real world, so peak human types would be screwed. He'd get gunned down fairly quickly by non hydra fodder soldiers in real combat. Actual explosions also create shrapnel and that shield can't cover his whole body.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Like I said, the shield absorbs energy. Hitting his shield with a missile is essentially taking the damage and timesing it by zero. There won't be any force to curve around the shield, the shield will have eaten it all.

I'm not sure if it vibranium can absorb heat energy of the top of my heat though so maybe that could get him. ive posted scans of cap getting nearly killed by a blast he blocked with the shield , it doesnt absorb 100% kinetic motion

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by 753
Even americans would laugh at his looks and name, let alone the rest of the world. He'd make a good tactical analyst, but nobody in their right minds would follow steroid boy wearing a flag and carrying a shield into battle.

Anyway, there's no PIS or CIS in te real world, so peak human types would be screwed. He'd get gunned down fairly quickly by non hydra fodder soldiers in real combat. Actual explosions also create shrapnel and that shield can't cover his whole body.

If Cap is the physically the same in the real world as he is in comics, no real soldier is even going to see the guy move. He isn't going to get gunned down. Shrapnel might get him but that just depends, sometimes his shield is enough to cover his entire body when he is crouched up... sometimes it isn't. This is a guy who - at minimum - is ten times faster than anyone in the real world. Don't undersell him, he would tear apart a platoon of soldiers in the real world.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Cap is the physically the same in the real world as he is in comics, no real soldier is even going to see the guy move. He isn't going to get gunned down. Shrapnel might get him but that just depends, sometimes his shield is enough to cover his entire body when he is crouched up... sometimes it isn't. This is a guy who - at minimum - is ten times faster than anyone in the real world. Don't undersell him, he would tear apart a platoon of soldiers in the real world.
Guerilla bombs
Snipers
Landmines
Gas

Just 4 things that would pretty much instant kill him. Cap is useless in the real world. 1on1 against soldiers sure, but in a war no way.

Black bolt z
Parm is right.Cap would be a good 1 on 1 challenge but a single good sniper takes him down for good.

753
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Cap is the physically the same in the real world as he is in comics, no real soldier is even going to see the guy move. He isn't going to get gunned down. Shrapnel might get him but that just depends, sometimes his shield is enough to cover his entire body when he is crouched up... sometimes it isn't. This is a guy who - at minimum - is ten times faster than anyone in the real world. Don't undersell him, he would tear apart a platoon of soldiers in the real world.

Well, humans with guns can still shoot things that move ten times faster than humans, specially with semiautomatic weapons that let one spray the area with bullets.

Black bolt z
And cap's sheild can still deflect them.

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