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kyle rayner gl.

which team wins?

Apocalypse > Kyle
Juggernaut > WWH

team 1.

WWH = Juggs

Kyle >>>>> Apoc.

T2 wins.

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You tell me how a being that can crush Apocalypse can have those showings. Like I said, Apoc crushes Kyle, because his consistent feats are better than GL's.

I'm going to say stalemate but my thought could change
The way I see it wwh can at least keep juggs busy or toss him
around but it would be extremly long and drawn out with no real winner
and as for kyle and apoc they basicly have the same powerset
and I don't really see ones slight advantages really overtaking the others so I say stalemate But I could be wrong

Originally posted by TheTyrant
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You tell me how a being that can crush Apocalypse can have those showings. Like I said, Apoc crushes Kyle, because his consistent feats are better than GL's.

no low balling.

What's up with GL's being underestimated today?

Originally posted by SuperMan103
no low balling.

Those are his consistent feats. Kyle on a regular basis gets tagged by metas, Apocalypse doesn't, because that's how the immortal mutant rolls.

Team 1 wins.

Come on, let's all be honest here. Kyle solos.

Team 1 6/10. GL is slightly superior to Apoc, while Hulk and Juggs are near equals.

Couldn't GL very easily BFR someone like juggs?At that point green team can easily take apoc.

Apocalypse crushes Kyle. Juggernaut defeats WWH.

The reason that team Apocalypse is losing is because of all the haters roaming around here.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse crushes Kyle. Juggernaut defeats WWH.

The reason that team Apocalypse is losing is because of all the haters roaming around here.


Apocalypse can, probably, not based by feats but using only implied potential, kind of ignoring what GL is all about, get maybe some wins against Kyle.

Juggs gets bfrd in the first seconds.

Originally posted by Bentley
Apocalypse can, probably, not based by feats but using only implied potential, kind of ignoring what GL is all about, get maybe some wins against Kyle.

Juggs gets bfrd in the first seconds.

Apocalypse has the better consistent feats.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse has the better consistent feats.


He has less showings being a villain, and his best showings aren't as good as Kyle's best. I wouldn't know how consistant is either one of them as I've only read short runs on both.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
scans

You tell me how a being that can crush Apocalypse can have those showings. Like I said, Apoc crushes Kyle, because his consistent feats are better than GL's.

I'm sure that there is context behind all of those...

Team 1 wins 10/10.

lol

Funny how people ignore all the scans I posted. Apocalypse crushes Kyle, Juggernaut defeats Hulk.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
lol

Funny how people ignore all the scans I posted. Apocalypse crushes Kyle, Juggernaut defeats Hulk.



I would give savage hulk a split against juggernaut on average and
apoc's problem is that his showing are inconsistent with his potential
on "average" that's why I call it a stalemate, I personally believe that
this is very subjective and that while each character in this match has a very good advantages the other's have thier own to counteract so I don't see a
10/10 going to eithier team unless we are talking about matches that will
be extending into days and by then I think Kyle will be barely functioning and hulk will have by now become something capable easily tossing juggs into space and ripping threw anything apoc can make but that's only in a long run battle

Apoc crushing Kyle...lol

Team 1 FTW.

The scans speak for themselves.

You mean Operation: Lowball Kyle?

You're extremely lucky Mindset hasn't swung by this thread.

Those are his consistent feats actually. I can upload more such as him having trouble with Shockwave even though he had help from Flash.

Kyle stomps with better feats.

I think wolverine has more "consistent" feats where he sucks but we still take his better feats and put him against hulk and stuff.

Don't we generally go with best feats on this forum?