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H/E from Evolutionary Wars faces of against the god of thunder.

CIS, PIS, and CIP are off.

Who wins?

when was the evolutionary wars?

^he was trying to evolve humans to cosmic cubes

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^he was trying to evolve humans to cosmic cubes

who did he fight?

Originally posted by SuperMan103
who did he fight?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evolutionary_War

in the what if they didnt stop him, humans were so powerful that they killed arishem,galactus and other cosmic beings and then merged with eternity

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
in the what if they didnt stop him, humans were so powerful that they killed arishem,galactus and other cosmic beings and then merged with eternity

Did they actually kill them on panel?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Did they actually kill them on panel? i read it here.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthevo.htm
skip down to paragraph 8

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i read it here.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthevo.htm
skip down to paragraph 8

Sweet. I have to get that.

Why would they stop him then
Me thinks the superpowered people were getting jellous
and wanted to keep humans below them

But seriously why stop him

^the superpowered beings were affected though in the what if and there were the most powerful. humans stopped all war realizing it was stupid.

i dont know why they would stop him

HE esea.

Thor.

Thor beats him down.

it depends if he has prep in which case thor would be turned into monkey

but they were on even terms when the fought

edit: he stomps here as per op in the evolutionary wars he was elevated to an abstract at the end with herc

Well, since HE has to evolve himself to compete with Thor, he can be -sort of- speedblitzed.

Thor does some early morning Nerd-smashing.

he is already thor level without the amps buddy

Thor beats the shit out of him.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he is already thor level without the amps buddy
Base level HE isn't Thor level.

reed richards admitted the high evolutionary was much smarter than him

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
reed richards admitted the high evolutionary was much smarter than him
Can he out-think a hammer to the face?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
reed richards admitted the high evolutionary was much smarter than him

Feats say otherwise, though.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he is already thor level without the amps buddy

You mean when he took out Thor with what looked to be some kind of mind blast when Thor stopped fighting and offered to talk it out for the sake of the civilians?

Yea, that doesn't mean much. Especially since Thor has saved his life and gone to beat down the same opponent that was raping High Evolutionary. On two different occasions.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Can he out-think a hammer to the fahce? he has fought on even terms with thor already

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he has fought on even terms with thor already
Cheap-shotting isn't "fighting on even terms".

Ulik has also fought Thor on roughly even terms, doesn't mean Ulik is Thor's equal, just that he can hang with him for a while.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean when he took out Thor with what looked to be some kind of mind blast when Thor stopped fighting and offered to talk it out for the sake of the civilians?

Yea, that doesn't mean much. Especially since Thor has saved his life and gone to beat down the same opponent that was raping High Evolutionary. On two different occasions. doesnt matter, your ignoring the fact they was even at first

thor even new the fight would last long thats why he wanted to stop

HE in Evo Wars was evolved himself and was trying to evolve humans.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Feats say otherwise, though. like what? can reed hang with celestials? can he replicate the celestial x gene feat? lobotomize exitar? steal parts out of arishem?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
like what? can reed hang with celestials? can he replicate the celestial x gene feat? lobotomize exitar? steal parts out of arishem?
He's done way better than that.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
HE in Evo Wars was evolved himself and was trying to evolve humans. they also evolved hercules to an abstract when they was messing with his tech

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's done way better than that. name them

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
doesnt matter, your ignoring the fact they was even at first

When did I ignore that? Actually, I'd say Thor had the edge before he stopped fighting. And Thor was fighting like a brick.

Throw in the two times Thor's saved his life from the Man Beast, and I'd say Thor wins in a straight up fight.

he fought man beast 1 on 1 when he bacame much more powerful.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he fought man beast 1 on 1 when he bacame much more powerful.

The High Evolutionary? When?

I recall him fighting twice. Once in Man Beast's original appearance and the second time when Man Beast became Karnivor.

Anyways, Man Beast always seemed uber most of the time during his Thor appearances. Not so much outside of them....

Originally posted by Galan007
H-E owns Thor:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2526/he1km1.th.jpg http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9554/he2pz5.th.jpg http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6185/he3vm8.th.jpg http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6471/he4fz5.th.jpg http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/145/he5rd1.th.jpg

HE already beat Thor so ya HE

Lol. Apocalypse fought HE evenly in Evolutionary Wars. Tyrant probably made this for the reason of 'proving' that Blue lips can defeat Thor.

H.E. mind rapes him.

Meh, it depends. Thor's resistance to mental attacks has varied. Even against the same telepath (Moondragon.). Depending on how powerful the High Evolutionary is, it might score him some wins.

Originally posted by kgkg
HE already beat Thor so ya HE

Yea, let's ignore circumstances.

Using that logic, Karnak beats Norrin because his already knocked him out once before.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Lol. Apocalypse fought HE evenly in Evolutionary Wars. Tyrant probably made this for the reason of 'proving' that Blue lips can defeat Thor.

really? i didn't know apocalypse was that powerful. but still apocalypsee isn't in thor's league imo. and thor should win this easily.

Even if we make the huge unsubstantiated assumption that they are equal in power, HE doesn't know how to fight for his life. Meanwhile Thor has been fighting for thousands of years.

I agree. Which is why he always has other people fighting his battles. His role in Annihilation conquest was hillirious! But as Warlock said, he's more powerful then people know. H.E. mindrapes him.

The fight with Apocalypes was more Apoc out manuvering H.E. then stalemating him. When Apoc teleported away the H.E. said, "I could force him to come back", meaning he could forcibly make Apoc return.

High Evolutionary was a bit of a ****ing pus in Conquest. When the Phalanx troops attacked him, he fled. Fled from cannon fodder. I didn't like that part.

Definitely supports the opinion that he isn't much of a warrior.

hes more powerful than thor but hes not a warrior

Originally posted by SuperMan103
really? i didn't know apocalypse was that powerful. but still apocalypsee isn't in thor's league imo. and thor should win this easily. if you call apoc avoiding most of his hits and then teleporting away a stalemate than yes there equal..

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if you call apoc avoiding most of his hits and then teleporting away a stalemate than yes there equal..

i havent seen the fight myself. but that guy told me they were fighting evenly.

@Rage,

That shyte was comedy gold! But to be fair, it was always implied through-out the arc that he was much more powerful then anyone else involved.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Using that logic, Karnak beats Norrin because his already knocked him out once before.



Forgot about that one.

Originally posted by dmills
@Rage,

That shyte was comedy gold! But to be fair, it was always implied through-out the arc that he was much more powerful then anyone else involved.

Really? I recall him being scared shitless of the Phalanx and definitely seemed to be wary of Ultron. He was even willing to detonate the star that powered his ship, despite the fact that it might kill Warlock etc. to try and stop Ultron. I also recall him being scared of committing to their cause due the fact that he was organic and the Phalanx would come after him. He wanted them to ensure him safe passage or something similar. Lol.

His intelligence was definitely shown to be above most of them.

To be fair though, it was stated by Moondragon that he was above Phyla. She said Phyla couldn't take him on even at full power as he had fought everyone from the Fantastic Four to the Avengers or something akin to that.

look at the purple head
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/korvacabsorb60dp.jpg

States that he doesn't give a shit if Hercules is a God
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9527/evolutionaryavann17bvr7.th.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8711/hevshercules2vd8.th.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7787/hevshercules3pm0.th.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4199/hevshercules4mz9.th.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5719/hevshercules5ft7.th.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3579/hevshercules6on1.th.jpghttp://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3299/hevshercules7mv8.th.jpg

Both The High Evolutionary and Hercules evolved into cosmic entities.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5778/heandhercosmic1tg4.th.jpghttp://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5645/heandhercosmic2ze4.th.jpg

Man that's the H.E., he does punk shyte like that. He acted the same way with your boy Thor with the whole man-beast thing. He doesn't like to get his hands dirty. He's a diva.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/hereturns.jpg

H/E wins then.

What level H/E are we using b/c at the end of evolutionary wars wasnt he somewhere around abstract level that would make this a no contest

Originally posted by McNasty996
What level H/E are we using b/c at the end of evolutionary wars wasnt he somewhere around abstract level that would make this a no contest

He never was around abstract level throughout the entire arc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Using that logic, Karnak beats Norrin because his already knocked him out once before. You think that's a good comparison?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
High Evolutionary was a bit of a ****ing pus in Conquest. When the Phalanx troops attacked him, he fled. Fled from cannon fodder. I didn't like that part.

Definitely supports the opinion that he isn't much of a warrior. Because he didn't want to be controlled, like almost everyone else was.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He never was around abstract level throughout the entire arc. did you see the scans i posted?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
did you see the scans i posted?

I did. But he wasn't abstract level. Restricted Cosmic Cube level at best.

^ probably so, since the celestials captured them after it happened,

they saw it as a "potential threat"

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^ probably so, since the celestials captured them after it happened,

they saw it as a "potential threat"

Anyways, this is the H/E that fought the X-Factor.

shut up

Originally posted by Blanket
shut up

Hai.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
look at the purple head
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/korvacabsorb60dp.jpg

States that he doesn't give a shit if Hercules is a God
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9527/evolutionaryavann17bvr7.th.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8711/hevshercules2vd8.th.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7787/hevshercules3pm0.th.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4199/hevshercules4mz9.th.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5719/hevshercules5ft7.th.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3579/hevshercules6on1.th.jpghttp://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3299/hevshercules7mv8.th.jpg

Both The High Evolutionary and Hercules evolved into cosmic entities.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5778/heandhercosmic1tg4.th.jpghttp://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5645/heandhercosmic2ze4.th.jpg

Them ending up woven into the Black Galaxy was a result of the plans of the Celestials was it not?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Them ending up woven into the Black Galaxy was a result of the plans of the Celestials was it not? the celestial put them in the black galaxy after they evolved.

its the reason they did that

and he easily left it then came back

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
the celestial put them in the black galaxy after they evolved.

its the reason they did that

and he easily left it then came back

Like I said, it was all part of the plans of the Celestials.

Easily left it? Thor had to come and save both him and Hercules from the Celestials, as there bodies were being held captive in some Celestial made capsules. High Evolutionary did not break free of the restraints the Celestials put on him easily at all.

He came back so he could understand more about them or something similar because to them, he was insignificant (Or something similar again.). I just remember him bitching about the Celestials and what they were doing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, it was all part of the plans of the Celestials.

Easily left it? Thor had to come and save both him and Hercules from the Celestials, as there bodies were being held captive in some Celestial made capsules. High Evolutionary did not break free of the restraints the Celestials put on him easily at all.

He came back so he could understand more about them or something similar because to them, he was insignificant (Or something similar again.). I just remember him bitching about the Celestials and what they were doing. no, he came back to witness the birth of a celestial he opened exitars leg and placed his analyzer into him.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no, he came back to witness the birth of a celestial he opened exitars leg and placed his analyzer into him. I got protein all over my pants now.

heres the scan

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27967/661985-newborn_6.jpg