Thor and Superman (both holding nothing back) vs Classic Thanos

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Omega Vision
This is Thor and Superman, both bloodlusted and holding nothing back (current versions) vs Classic Thanos.

No bfr, Supes and Thor get 3 minutes to work out a strategy and make other preparations.

Who wins?

JakeTheBank
How many High Heralds has Thanos fought off at once without the aid of amps/artifacts/etc.?

Mshinu
Thanos slaps the two of them down with ease.

Bouboumaster
He one-shot them with eyes beams

puchio
thanos own there asses

lightyeargee
Superman is the strongest Herald class being in comics. He is a match for Thanos in strength. Thor is the most powerful Herald Class being in comics. He can match Thanos's power output. But Thanos has strenght of Superman, Power like Thor's, and Durability, plus extreme skill in his powers. The duo will win one match using the God blast. Another using Superman's counter vibration power. Maybe Another match or two using Thor's BFR or Superman's T-Vo. But Thanos would win the majority after he Turn's Thor into kryptonite. It's pretty much over.

supremthor
i give it to the team 7/10 if it current supes and thor.

quanchi112
Thanos, 10/10.

Lord_Talron
OP says nothing about CIS. theres no way a team of superman and thor are losing this

cdtm
By classic Thanos, are we talking about the version who took on Marvel? Because he'd lose hard. stick out tongue

Pre death uber versions of Thanos should win this.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
OP says nothing about CIS. theres no way a team of superman and thor are losing this Do you know who Thanos is?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
OP says nothing about CIS. theres no way a team of superman and thor are losing this Yes there is.Thanos smacks high heralders down often.Wait...is classic thanos pre-death?If so this team might win.If not then thanos 7-8/10.

shokosugi
Superman solos via BLITZ. When are you people going to learn????


Gamora was too fast for Thanos. Superman is at least 100 GAJILLION times faster than Gamora.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/44765/1034624-thanos_vs_gamora_003_super.jpg


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/44765/1034615-thanos_vs_gamora_002_super.jpg

Thanos BLITZED by Runner.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/runnerthanos3.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/runnerthanos1.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/runnerthanos4.jpg

quanchi112
Thanos wasn't fighting to the best of his abilities and in both scenarios he wasn't defeated.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wasn't fighting to the best of his abilities and in both scenarios he wasn't defeated. Yes he was.

But thanos is much much tougher then superman and even being blitz he's not going down.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes he was.

But thanos is much much tougher then superman and even being blitz he's not going down. Thanos can easily stop someone via Fallen one. Read up on Thanos.

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wasn't fighting to the best of his abilities and in both scenarios he wasn't defeated.

actually he was fighting to the best of his abilities.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/44765/1034615-thanos_vs_gamora_002_super.jpg

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos can easily stop someone via Fallen one. Read up on Thanos. I have.Yes he can.Your point?he can still be blitzed.Runner proved it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
actually he was fighting to the best of his abilities.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/44765/1034615-thanos_vs_gamora_002_super.jpg So punching is the best of his abilities?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I have.Yes he can.Your point?he can still be blitzed.Runner proved it. He can enact shields and not let him touch him but chose not to because he had other plans for him.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by cdtm
By classic Thanos, are we talking about the version who took on Marvel? Because he'd lose hard. stick out tongue

Pre death uber versions of Thanos should win this.
For the purpose of debate, this is Thanos before his nebulous "upgrades"

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
So punching is the best of his abilities?

He can enact shields and not let him touch him but chose not to because he had other plans for him. And energy blasts.

True.That doesn't mean he can't be blitzed.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And energy blasts.

True.That doesn't mean he can't be blitzed. If he enacts shields he cannot be blitzed. Wow.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by quanchi112
If he enacts shields he cannot be blitzed. Wow.
I think making an argument that Thanos's reaction time is better than Superman's is well...retarded.

You clearly don't understand the basic meaning of the word 'blitz'

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
If he enacts shields he cannot be blitzed. Wow. Yes he can.He can be blitez before he activates his shields and even after he can still be blitzed but they will be hitting his sheild.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think making an argument that Thanos's reaction time is better than Superman's is well...retarded.

You clearly don't understand the basic meaning of the word 'blitz' When has Superman ever defeated someone of Thanos' level before they could put their arm up?

Thanos' reaction time to the Surfer while fighting someone else destroys any kind of reaction of Superman's.

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
So punching is the best of his abilities?


he was blasting gamora too.

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
he was blasting gamora too. So? He didn't use his shields which negates speed.

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Superman ever defeated someone of Thanos' level before they could put their arm up?




Darkseid, Mongul, Doomsday, Imepriex Probes, etc.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Superman ever defeated someone of Thanos' level before they could put their arm up?

Thanos' reaction time to the Surfer while fighting someone else destroys any kind of reaction of Superman's.
Him dodging Surfer with the Infinity Gauntlet? Ha.

Point to some feats where he wasn't amped.

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
Darkseid, Mongul, Doomsday, Imepriex Probes, etc. Mongul he had the tropic sun above him and he's nowhere near Thanos level. Supes never crushes Seid in a blitz, ever.

Probes are jokes compared to Thanos.

His senses weren't amped he specifically says so to give them a chance.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
Mongul he had the tropic sun above him and he's nowhere near Thanos level. Supes never crushes Seid in a blitz, ever.

Probes are jokes compared to Thanos.

His senses weren't amped he specifically says so to give them a chance. Thanos ahs cosmic awareness correct?You say the power gem amps his mind so would it not also amp his CA?Thus yes giving him amped senses.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thanos ahs cosmic awareness correct?You say the power gem amps his mind so would it not also amp his CA?Thus yes giving him amped senses. No, and he was caught off guard by the Surfer. I mean did you read the comic?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, and he was caught off guard by the Surfer. I mean did you read the comic? No to what?Thanos having CA or the PG amping it?

He obviously senses him coming because surfer goes many times faster then the speed of light.Thanos would not be able to even see him much less react in the time it would have took for surfer to come.So yes thanos sensed him.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No to what?Thanos having CA or the PG amping it?

He obviously senses him coming because surfer goes many times faster then the speed of light.Thanos would not be able to even see him much less react in the time it would have took for surfer to come.So yes thanos sensed him. His reflexes weren't amped this is explained on panel.

At the last possible moment he moved showing his reflexes are some of the best out there. Thanos, 10/10.

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
So? He didn't use his shields which negates speed.

oh you mean this shield?

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s50/ecq400/1037176-annihilation4_025_super.jpg


http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s50/ecq400/1037177-annihilation4_026_super.jpg

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
His reflexes weren't amped this is explained on panel.

At the last possible moment he moved showing his reflexes are some of the best out there. Thanos, 10/10. He has CA correct?The PG would amp that.

But surfer was moving faster then light.Unless thanos sensed him he wouldn't have been able to move.Thanos doesn't move uber fast so he can't see stuff like that.

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
oh you mean this shield?

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s50/ecq400/1037176-annihilation4_025_super.jpg


http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s50/ecq400/1037177-annihilation4_026_super.jpg Good thing that's not relevant to Thor or Superman not will he have his back turned.

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes never crushes Seid in a blitz, ever.


Never ever?

http://i31.tinypic.com/35n6jab.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/53031/991299-apokolipsnowpage31_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/885328-aunt_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/53031/1070149-hacsa_hunter_prey_02_11_super.jpg


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/30154/623190-darkseid1_super.jpg

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
Good thing that's not relevant to Thor or Superman not will he have his back turned.


it doesn't matter he's got his shields up right? which will negate Superman's speed? right? WRONG.

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
Never ever?

http://i31.tinypic.com/35n6jab.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/53031/991299-apokolipsnowpage31_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/885328-aunt_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/53031/1070149-hacsa_hunter_prey_02_11_super.jpg


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/30154/623190-darkseid1_super.jpg Avoiding his beams isn't blizting and they fought and exchanged blows prior to.

Supes punches him twice and in the same arc batman kicked him and also caused him to bleed. Context.

Originally posted by shokosugi
it doesn't matter he's got his shields up right? which will negate Superman's speed? right? WRONG. Supes can't touch him once if he doesn't want him to.

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
Avoiding his beams isn't blizting and they fought and exchanged blows prior to.

Supes punches him twice and in the same arc batman kicked him and also caused him to bleed. Context.

Supes can't touch him once if he doesn't want him to.

FACT 1

Superman has defeated Darkseid several times who is WAY more powerful and durable than Thanos.


FACT 2


Thanos' shield is not strong enough to keep Superman from beating the crap out of him.


FACT 3

Thanos is SLOW and has been shown to be vulnerable to BLITZ.


FACT 4.


Superman destroys THANOS.



FACT 5.


Quanchi GOT OWNED AGAIN! Happy Dance

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
FACT 1

Superman has defeated Darkseid several times who is WAY more powerful and durable than Thanos.


FACT 2


Thanos' shield is not strong enough to keep Superman from beating the crap out of him.


FACT 3

Thanos is SLOW and has been shown to be vulnerable to BLITZ.


FACT 4.


Superman destroys THANOS.



FACT 5.


Quanchi GOT OWNED AGAIN! Happy Dance Lie 1--Darkseid has had his heart ripped out by Orion, face broken by Superman, and beaten to near death in two panels by DD proving he's inferior to Thor let alone anywhere near Thanos.

Lie 2-His shields were enough to deplete vital energies from Galactus meaning Superman isn't ever busting through.


Lie 3-His feats show otherwise aka ig against the Surfer.

Lie 4-Superman can't even destroy Orion let alone someone a few levels higher than him in all regards such as Thanos. Thanos destroys Surfer who would destroy Superman.

Lie 5-Quanchi won yet again and you posted the same old scans here's one for you.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Superfail6.jpg

Black bolt z
Darkseid would beat thanos as he has killed new gods easily.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How many High Heralds has Thanos fought off at once without the aid of amps/artifacts/etc.?

Can someone answer this?

I'm not saying Thanos loses here, but how many people on Supes/Thor level has Thanos ever been shown engaging at once without amps/artifacts/etc?

Omega Vision
That scan doesn't really say anything bad about Superman's durability since that's clearly an alien metal. All it says is that those blades are absurdly sharp.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Can someone answer this?

I'm not saying Thanos loses here, but how many people on Supes/Thor level has Thanos ever been shown engaging at once without amps/artifacts/etc? Most I remember is one.But being totally unaffected by a mad surfer shows he could easily take on 3-4.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Darkseid would beat thanos as he has killed new gods easily. This is such a biased statement. Which new gods? You do realize Orion has killed him before, right?

shokosugi
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lie 1--Darkseid has had his heart ripped out by Orion, face broken by Superman, and beaten to near death in two panels by DD proving he's inferior to Thor let alone anywhere near Thanos.

Lie 2-His shields were enough to deplete vital energies from Galactus meaning Superman isn't ever busting through.


Lie 3-His feats show otherwise aka ig against the Surfer.

Lie 4-Superman can't even destroy Orion let alone someone a few levels higher than him in all regards such as Thanos. Thanos destroys Surfer who would destroy Superman.

Lie 5-Quanchi won yet again and you posted the same old scans here's one for you.
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Quanchi's Lie 1 - DS > Thanos.

Quanchi's Lie 2 - Drax ripped his shields open. Superman can do it no DOUBT.

Quanchi's Lie 3 - Thanos got blitzed by Runner and Gamora.

Quanchi's Lie 4 - Superman has defeated Darkseid. Darkseid >>> Thanos

Quanchi Lie 5 - Quanchi has no answer to my old scans.

Superman being killed/defeated will always be PIS/CIS.

Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance

Black bolt z
Originally posted by shokosugi
Quanchi's Lie 1 - DS > Thanos.

Quanchi's Lie 2 - Drax ripped his shields open. Superman can do it no DOUBT.

Quanchi's Lie 3 - Thanos got blitzed by Runner and Gamora.

Quanchi's Lie 4 - Superman has defeated Darkseid. Darkseid >>> Thanos

Quanchi Lie 5 - Quanchi has no answer to my old scans.

Superman being killed/defeated will always be PIS/CIS.

Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance 1:True
2:Not the best example.Drax was created to kill thanos.But also killing =/= going through his shields
3:Not by gamora
4:Yes
5:No.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by shokosugi
Batman being killed/defeated will always be PIS/CIS.

Fixed.

quanchi112
Originally posted by shokosugi
Quanchi's Lie 1 - DS > Thanos.

Quanchi's Lie 2 - Drax ripped his shields open. Superman can do it no DOUBT.

Quanchi's Lie 3 - Thanos got blitzed by Runner and Gamora.

Quanchi's Lie 4 - Superman has defeated Darkseid. Darkseid >>> Thanos

Quanchi Lie 5 - Quanchi has no answer to my old scans.

Superman being killed/defeated will always be PIS/CIS.

Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance 1-False and you haven't supported it anyways just blanket statements.
2-Drax is his k-nite Superman isn't so Superman can't do it.
3-Runner is faster than Superman and Thanos was just sparring with her this is a forum fight where they fight to the best of their abilities.
4-Blanket statement.
5-Already destroyed them with the context.

Accept the truth.

shokosugi
Originally posted by Black bolt z
1:True
2:Not the best example.Drax was created to kill thanos.But also killing =/= going through his shields
3:Not by gamora
4:Yes
5:No.


1) i don't care what you say
2) i really don't give a shit
3) you dont know what you're talking about
4) whatever
5) i dont care

Black bolt z
Originally posted by shokosugi
1) i don't care what you say
2) i really don't give a shit
3) you dont know what you're talking about
4) whatever
5) i dont care Thats not very nice...

shokosugi
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats not very nice...

i was jk smile

Black bolt z
Originally posted by shokosugi
i was jk smile I know.I still love you love

TheTyrant
lol at anyone who thinks Seid is more powerful than Thanos.

Thanos crushes these two and destroys Darkseid afterwards.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheTyrant
lol at anyone who thinks Thanos is more powerful than Seid.

Thanos crushes these two and gets destroyed by Darkseid afterwards.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheTyrant
lol at anyone who thinks Seid is more powerful than Thanos.

Thanos crushes these two and destroys Darkseid afterwards. I don't see Darkseid as powerful as even Superman let alone someone of Thanos' magnitude.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see Darkseid as powerful as even Superman let alone someone of Thanos' magnitude.

IMO he is more powerful than Superman, but not even close to Thanos. Thanos remains unscratched after a full power blast from the Silver Surfer, yet Darkseid gets Orion's hand through his chest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheTyrant
IMO he is more powerful than Superman, but not even close to Thanos. Thanos remains unscratched after a full power blast from the Silver Surfer, yet Darkseid gets Orion's hand through his chest. Jurgens thinks Superman is more powerful but it's arguable and I could see someone seeing Seid as more powerful than Superman. Not only that but DD beat him to death quite easily and it was so onesided he couldn't even counter him.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by quanchi112
Jurgens thinks Superman is more powerful but it's arguable and I could see someone seeing Seid as more powerful than Superman. Not only that but DD beat him to death quite easily and it was so onesided he couldn't even counter him.

Well, to be fair, Seid did have DD down for the count after he OE'd his ass. It was just that he was too arrogant to finish the job. Regardless, Thanos would crush Seid, Thor, and Superman at the same time based on consistent showings.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Well, to be fair, Seid did have DD down for the count after he OE'd his ass. It was just that he was too arrogant to finish the job. Regardless, Thanos would crush Seid, Thor, and Superman at the same time based on consistent showings. He just buried him underneath rubble and we saw what happened after that.

I agree he could solo the team himself.

brownqk
Thanos all day; Superman/Thor defenders seem to believe that Superman beating Darkseid is evidence that Supes and Thor could beat Thanos. It is not.

Thanos >Darkseid certainly when it comes to durability (other things are debatable.) When has Thanos been wrecked in 3 punches by a mere herald?

Thanos is too durable and will outlast both, even if I granted, for the sake of argument, that both Superman and Thor were stronger.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheTyrant
IMO he is more powerful than Superman, but not even close to Thanos. Thanos remains unscratched after a full power blast from the Silver Surfer, yet Darkseid gets Orion's hand through his chest. And thanos got owned by drax right through the chest...no expression

Lord_Talron
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you know who Thanos is? this is superman and thor, if neither are holding back and CIS is ON, they will somehow manage to win.

brownqk
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And thanos got owned by drax right through the chest...no expression

Drax is Thanos' kryptonite.

You don't hold Superman's weakness against him, so why do you hold it against Thanos?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
this is superman and thor, if neither are holding back and CIS is ON, they will somehow manage to win. If neither are holding back then CIS is off.If they are not fighting in character then CIS is off.Originally posted by brownqk
Drax is Thanos' kryptonite.

You don't hold Superman's weakness against him, so why do you hold it against Thanos? Both got a arm through their chest.So don''t hold that against them.

TheTyrant
That's different. Drax was created by an abstract level being for the specific task of killing off Thanos. Orion is Seid's son, nothing else.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And thanos got owned by drax right through the chest...no expression Because he is his silver bullet whereas Orion wasn't Darkseid's nor was Doomsday.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheTyrant
That's different. Drax was created by an abstract level being for the specific task of killing off Thanos. Orion is Seid's son, nothing else. Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he is his silver bullet whereas Orion wasn't Darkseid's nor was Doomsday. I understand that.But a whole through the chest is a whole through the chest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I understand that.But a whole through the chest is a whole through the chest. Yes, but the only reason one character did so was because he was an exception which isn't the case for Seid.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I understand that.But a whole through the chest is a whole through the chest.

You DO know that that's fail logic, right? :-/

gogogadgetgo
wasnt orion destined to kill his father? doesn't that make him like drax is to thanos as orion is darksied?

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
wasnt orion destined to kill his father? doesn't that make him like drax is to thanos as orion is darksied?

Destiny isn't equal to weakness exploitation. stick out tongue

the ninjak
Lol at Drax being used as a bad showing for Thanos.

lightyeargee
LOL at HP Doomsday being used as a bad showing for DS. Especially after he Got Pwned by the Omegas and had to Cheap Shot DS.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
LOL at HP Doomsday being used as a bad showing for DS. Especially after he Got Pwned by the Omegas and had to Cheap Shot DS.

I read the scans. It looks more like Darkseid shooting DD in the back with his strongest "I-Win button" attack, only for DD to stand back up and grapple DS.

Is grappling a cheapshot now?

lightyeargee
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I read the scans. It looks more like Darkseid shooting DD in the back with his strongest "I-Win button" attack, only for DD to stand back up and grapple DS.

Is grappling a cheapshot now? Wait, you know Doomsday is the engine of Destruction. The guy who made a Gaurdian kill Himself and resisted the Wave Rider's time powers. And DS never tried to erase DD. And Since he is the engine of Destruction, why would he stop, give DS time to give a speech? That makes no sense. DS had put him down.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Wait, you know Doomsday is the engine of Destruction. The guy who made a Gaurdian kill Himself and resisted the Wave Rider's time powers. And DS never tried to erase DD. And Since he is the engine of Destruction, why would he stop, give DS time to give a speech? That makes no sense. DS had put him down.

This isn't the argumentation you put forth. This is:

Originally posted by lightyeargee
LOL at HP Doomsday being used as a bad showing for DS. Especially after he Got Pwned by the Omegas and had to Cheap Shot DS.

So, are you backtracking on your argumentation now?

lightyeargee
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
This isn't the argumentation you put forth. This is:



So, are you backtracking on your argumentation now? Did DD not attack DS when DS's back was turned? That is a Cheap Shot.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Did DD not attack DS when DS's back was turned? That is a Cheap Shot.

He didn't take a shot, he just grabbed DS from behind as that was the current state DS was at when he got up and even gave him enough time to retaliate.

Not DD's fault that DS decided to spend that time monologing about how no one can withstand the Omega Beams from point blank range... :-/

lightyeargee
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
He didn't take a shot, he just grabbed DS from behind as that was the current state DS was at when he got up and even gave him enough time to retaliate.

Not DD's fault that DS decided to spend that time monologing about how no one can withstand the Omega Beams from point blank range... :-/ Um, The very fact that DS had a monologue and DD being who he was that up until that point, hadn't been stopped even for seconds, was enough to show that Had DS actually used an erasing power, or teleporting power, he would have won. He chose an energy attack and got cheap shotted for it. DD came from behind him at Superspeed.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Um, The very fact that DS had a monologue and DD being who he was that up until that point, hadn't been stopped even for seconds, was enough to show that Had DS actually used an erasing power, or teleporting power, he would have won. He chose an energy attack and got cheap shotted for it. DD came from behind him at Superspeed.

Again with the "cheap shot".

It's not a low showing if someone doesn't behave according tho how you want them to. Just because DS didn't behave the way you wanted him to, doesn't make this showing any less valid.

From what I see, the attacks landed to the FRONT of DS's face. It is NOT a cheap shot for DD to grapple DS then knee him in the face before he blasts him with an energy attack. The same way it is not a cheap shot to close into someone then punch him in the face before he shoots you with a gun.

lightyeargee
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Again with the "cheap shot".

It's not a low showing if someone doesn't behave according tho how you want them to. Just because DS didn't behave the way you wanted him to, doesn't make this showing any less valid.

From what I see, the attacks landed to the FRONT of DS's face. It is NOT a cheap shot to beat someone to the gun before you are shot. The same way it is not a cheap shot to close into someone then punch him in the face before he shoots you with a gun. DS back was turned. Cheap Shot. Name any other time in the series where DD was actually stopped. Not Moving. Not killing, etc. besides when DS used the Beams on him.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
DS back was turned. Cheap Shot.

DS's back was turned when he grappled him. In many circles, even in accepted MMA fighting, grappling from the rear isn't a cheapshot. Attacks landed to the front when DS was ALREADY facing DD.

Shooting someone in the back, however, is a universally accepted cheap shot.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Name any other time in the series where DD was actually stopped. Not Moving. Not killing, etc. besides when DS used the Beams on him.

Nice try trying to divert the argument to another direction. It wasn't a cheap shot. Get over it.

lightyeargee
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
DS's back was turned when he grappled him. In many circles, even in accepted MMA fighting, grappling from the rear isn't a cheapshot. Attacks landed to the front when DS was ALREADY facing DD.

Shooting someone in the back, however, is a universally accepted cheap shot.



Nice try trying to divert the argument to another direction. It wasn't a cheap shot. Get over it. Um, if My back is turned, and you grapple me from the back, I count that as a cheap shot. Don't know who you been talking too but I am undefended and grappling does cause dmg. Especially if It's effing Hunter Prey Doomsday. Sorry you logic is a fail.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Um, if My back is turned, and you grapple me from the back, I count that as a cheap shot. Don't know who you been talking too but I am undefended and grappling does cause dmg. Especially if It's effing Hunter Prey Doomsday. Sorry you logic is a fail.

1) If you're carrying a ranged weapon while all I have is my fists, that's not even close to a cheap shot.
2) If I wait for you to turn around before pounding you, not a cheap shot
3) If you're that much of a wuss that my tackle KOs you, still not a cheap shot cuz you CHOSE to turn your back in a fight that's not even over yet.
4) If you cheap shotted me FIRST, it's not a cheap shot. Turnabout is fair play, you know.

Your logic fails 4x more.

TheTyrant
Seid did turn his back after he blasted DD down. But still, that is a horrible showing for a being supposedly as powerful as Thanos.

lightyeargee
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
1) If you're carrying a ranged weapon while all I have is my fists, that's not even close to a cheap shot.
2) If I wait for you to turn around before pounding you, still not a cheap shot
3) If you're that much of a wuss that my tackle KOs you, still not a cheap shot cuz you CHOSE to turn your back in a fight that's not even over yet.
4) If you cheap shotted me FIRST, it's not a cheap shot. Turnabout is fair play, you know.

Your logic fails 4x more. If a robber comes in your house and is breaking up your stuff and you shoot him, it's not a cheap shot since he attacked first. DD was attacking Apoc and pwning Herald level Parademons. So no cheap shot ever came from DS.

IF your Hunter Prey DD, then a tackle could crack open a planet.

Everything else yousaid was a massive fail.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by lightyeargee
If a robber comes in your house and is breaking up your stuff and you shoot him,

I never said DS's action was unjustified. Hell, he had every right to cheap shot DD. He was wrecking his crib. Doesn't make it any less of a cheap shot. He shot him in the back, plain and simple.

Justified and sporting are 2 different things. Learn to differentiate please.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
it's not a cheap shot since he attacked first.

So, if you punch me in the face, it's NOT a cheap shot for me to shoot you in the back?

Originally posted by lightyeargee
DD was attacking Apoc and pwning Herald level Parademons.

So, due to DS's fear of DD's power from pwning all his "herald lvl" parademons, DS resorted to a cheap shot?

How does this help your argument?

Originally posted by lightyeargee
IF your Hunter Prey DD, then a tackle could crack open a planet.

Didn't seem to crack the planet that time. Must be one of his lesser tackles.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Everything else yousaid was a massive fail.

Tsk. Tsk.

Allankles
Originally posted by brownqk
Thanos all day; Superman/Thor defenders seem to believe that Superman beating Darkseid is evidence that Supes and Thor could beat Thanos. It is not.

Thanos >Darkseid certainly when it comes to durability (other things are debatable.) When has Thanos been wrecked in 3 punches by a mere herald?

Thanos is too durable and will outlast both, even if I granted, for the sake of argument, that both Superman and Thor were stronger.

There's no such thing as a "mere" herald in comics. Those are categories put in forums for ease of debate and are based on averages. They don't tell you how strong character x is at his peak or how durable etc. Especially when you're talking about characters with dynamic strength and durability like Superman or the Hulk. Bassically part of there powerset is to amp up there physical stats through mental control.

These heroes can punch above their weight class, also it is important to note that Supes powerset is combat oriented. He can't do godly esoteric feats but what he has is a combat effective powerset.

Allankles
As far as the thread goes I see the team taking a solid majority. My reasoning is simple, the numbers are against him, he's not going to get the time he needs and quite frankly Thanos doesn't have esoteric powers on the level of an omega effect, where he can essentially one shot or reality warp someone with a single or at least a few blasts.

Everything we've seen from him in terms of energy seems to be of a concussive nature against higher level beings.

Nihilist
These 2 don't have what it takes to put Thanos down

shokosugi
Superman alone can defeat Thanos.

Superman has defeated DArkseid, Mongul and several Imperiex Probes before.

Thanos is nothing special.



We all know Thor going all out can defeat Void.

Void is up there with Thanos in terms of durability/power.

Nihilist
Not one person you have named is above Thanos at a all round lvl, also your abc logic is laughable.

Pre res Thanos 2shotted Thor before with just his eye beams

BattleMage
Team

i am iron man
Team takes it

paisapower
team ,easily

coelio
team everytime

Kid Kurdy
Thor together with Superman > Thanos.

coelio
superman and thor were created to defeat villians like thanos they will stomp him

paisapower
I for one dont see why thanos gets jocked so much.

quanchi112
Originally posted by lightyeargee
DS back was turned. Cheap Shot. Name any other time in the series where DD was actually stopped. Not Moving. Not killing, etc. besides when DS used the Beams on him. When a fight starts and someone is stupid to turn their back after already attacking it's stupidity on Darkseid's part.Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Thor together with Superman > Thanos. They don't have the power to take this.

Originally posted by Allankles
As far as the thread goes I see the team taking a solid majority. My reasoning is simple, the numbers are against him, he's not going to get the time he needs and quite frankly Thanos doesn't have esoteric powers on the level of an omega effect, where he can essentially one shot or reality warp someone with a single or at least a few blasts.

Everything we've seen from him in terms of energy seems to be of a concussive nature against higher level beings. Thor goes down very quickly as does Superman as we have seen far lesser beings beat these two guys.

cdtm
Originally posted by quanchi112
When a fight starts and someone is stupid to turn their back after already attacking it's stupidity on Darkseid's part.

Eh, Doomsday was still for a pretty long time, and he's not smart enough to play possum. Darkseid had every reason to believe Doomsday was dead, and he probably was dead.

But he came back to life, like he did when Superman put him down. Only faster, which is also seen in his much faster healing factor...

Estacado
Even without upgrades Thanos has 1shoted Thor before.

Warlord
most part of this tread is lol worthy

jaguar
Thor and Superman because they can take far more punishment then he can give them and thanos one shotting thor is PIS both superman and thor got crazy damage soak they were made to fight bad guys like thanos

Estacado
Originally posted by jaguar
Thor and Superman because they can take far more punishment then he can give them and thanos one shotting thor is PIS .
Lulz.

quanchi112
Originally posted by cdtm
Eh, Doomsday was still for a pretty long time, and he's not smart enough to play possum. Darkseid had every reason to believe Doomsday was dead, and he probably was dead.

But he came back to life, like he did when Superman put him down. Only faster, which is also seen in his much faster healing factor... He wasn't dead and the writer disagrees with you completely.

Originally posted by jaguar
Thor and Superman because they can take far more punishment then he can give them and thanos one shotting thor is PIS both superman and thor got crazy damage soak they were made to fight bad guys like thanos Surely you jest.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Can someone answer this?

I'm not saying Thanos loses here, but how many people on Supes/Thor level has Thanos ever been shown engaging at once without amps/artifacts/etc?

Then I podr the question,,, how many times has Thanos lost to two high heralds? None

KuRuPT Thanosi
Are people really saying Superman and Thor are more durable than Thanos? LOL. Stronger is also funny, but at least that is kinda understandable. I think this is a good fight, but in the end, Thanos will take them down. He's just too durable for these two and on a whole other level of fire power. We must remember how durable Thanos is without his shields... he could last awhile.. With his shields and his natural durablitly... these two are putting him down for awhile. However, he has the fire power to put them down as he's one shot high heralds before and killed them.

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are people really saying Superman and Thor are more durable than Thanos? LOL. Stronger is also funny, but at least that is kinda understandable. I think this is a good fight, but in the end, Thanos will take them down. He's just too durable for these two and on a whole other level of fire power. We must remember how durable Thanos is without his shields... he could last awhile.. With his shields and his natural durablitly... these two are putting him down for awhile. However, he has the fire power to put them down as he's one shot high heralds before and killed them.
1. Thanos is really strong, but when has he done something that Superman just can not do himself strength wise ?

2. Thanos is very durable, but Wolverine cuts him without problems. Do you think Wolverine can cut Superman ? Didn't Gamora - who is a lightweight compared to Superman - make Thanos bleed ? I'd like to see Gamora versus Superman lol.

lightyeargee
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Then I podr the question,,, how many times has Thanos lost to two high heralds? None Thanos has never fought two High heralds.

Naija boy
Thanos for a very solid majority.

KuRuPT Thanosi

JakeTheBank

KuRuPT Thanosi
you have never seen Superman bleed? I've seen him bleed many a time, get his jaw broken. When have you seen this happen to thanos?

cdtm
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

2. Thanos is very durable, but Wolverine cuts him without problems.

When did Wolverine cut Thanos? Are you talking about Marvel vs DC, when Wolvie had bone claws and isn't considered canon here, or Infinity Gauntlet, when Thanos was getting hurt by attacks he historically shrugged off in the past, like Thor's blitz at the end? Plus, Thanos didn't actually bleed in IG...

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by cdtm
When did Wolverine cut Thanos? Are you talking about Marvel vs DC, when Wolvie had bone claws and isn't considered canon here, or Infinity Gauntlet, when Thanos was getting hurt by attacks he historically shrugged off in the past, like Thor's blitz at the end? Plus, Thanos didn't actually bleed in IG...
Wolverine stabbed Thanos without any effort in the IG. Canon.

Do you think Wolverine can stab Superman ?

Nihilist
Lulz at the Wolverinr Gamora argument.

Wolverinr cut King Thor, so I guess Superman beats him.

And seems some people can't read , Gamora. Didn't make him bleed, she hit him in the throat that made him spit , and they was only sparring because if he wanted to really hit her/kill her he would have used a omni directional blast put her down, after all he has killed her before.

Kid Kurdy
Don't forget to answer my question concerning Superman - Wolverine.

Oh and Thanos was spitting ?!? laughing

Would Superman even feel Gamora's punches ? Maybe a very little bit, maybe...

Omega Vision
Admittedly I haven't seen the scans for a while but is Thanos's spit usually red?

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Don't forget to answer my question concerning Superman - Wolverine.

Oh and Thanos was spitting ?!? laughing

Would Superman even feel Gamora's punches ? Maybe a very little bit, maybe...

I replied you never did.

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you have never seen Superman bleed? I've seen him bleed many a time, get his jaw broken. When have you seen this happen to thanos?
Superman has thousands and thousands appearances, Thanos - compared to Superman - only a handful.

KuRuPT Thanosi

Nihilist
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Don't forget to answer my question concerning Superman - Wolverine.

Oh and Thanos was spitting ?!? laughing

Would Superman even feel Gamora's punches ? Maybe a very little bit, maybe...

Wolverine would cut Superman, Supes skin was broken by a Vampire.

She hit him with a nerve shot to throat, which made him spit phlem, think about it only Thor w/power gem was only just able to make him bleed after 3 consecutive hit yet you think Gamora does it in 1

As you are only trying to use low showing, would Thanos get wtf ko pwnd by a gas station, come to think of it Thanos omni blast>>>>>>>> gas explosion, Supes gets ko'd easy here going by your logic

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Nihilist
think about it only Thor w/power gem was only just able to make him bleed after 3 consecutive hit yet you think Gamora does it in 1
Lets not act like that was anywhere near the PG's max. I don't think anyone here (except Quan) thinks that Thanos's durability>Cap's shield.

Nihilist
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Admittedly I haven't seen the scans for a while but is Thanos's spit usually red?

It wasn't red

Rage.Of.Olympus
Why cares how many blows it took to make Thanos bleed?

Who cares about bleeding unless it's something severe at all? A little blood is nothing more than artistic flare. Thor took blows to the face from a severely amped Thanos (Later retconned into a high powered clone.) without bleeding. ZOMG!

Thor can give post resurrection Thanos a good fight on a normal day if we're going to focus on the small details.

Anyways, team wins all day.

Badabing
Superman blitzes Thanos into a space warp Thor makes.

Rage.Of.Olympus
That's actually a viable tactic. It would be more satisfying to see the team simply beat the shit out of him.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by shokosugi
Superman solos via BLITZ. When are you people going to learn????


Gamora was too fast for Thanos. Superman is at least 100 GAJILLION times faster than Gamora.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/44765/1034624-thanos_vs_gamora_003_super.jpg


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/44765/1034615-thanos_vs_gamora_002_super.jpg

Thanos BLITZED by Runner.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/runnerthanos3.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/runnerthanos1.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/runnerthanos4.jpg

Thanos is overrated and weak. Team takes his ass to school.

Estacado
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor can give post resurrection Thanos a good fight on a normal day if we're going to focus on the small details.
haermm

carver9
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Superman has thousands and thousands appearances, Thanos - compared to Superman - only a handful.

Even though I agree with a lot in this thread.

Superman can blitz Thanos. Thor can give Thanos a fight. The team should win this. Superman and Thor alone should be able to give Thanos a fight. I think Superman could land the first 4 punches on Thanos but I cant see him winning by himself but the team should pull a majority.

The things that I disagree with is that, true, Superman is faster than Gamora but Gamora use her speed in a different fashion than Superman. What happened to Thanos in that scan vs people like Gamora has also happened to Superman on numerous of occasions.

Then we have the runner scan. Superman isnt CLOSE to being on the level of speed as the runner. This is the same guy that was blitzing Surfer. So using runner as anything to indicate Superman blitzing Thanos is just ridiculous (even though I do think Superman could blitz Thanos but at a much slower pace).

I give this to the team.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Estacado
haermm

I got that straight form the narration in Blood and Thunder.

mhmm

Shit, if I was in the mood or debating with Quan, I would make a pretty solid case as to why high end Thor aka Cosmic Entity Thor is beyond the mad little Titan.

Seriously though, I don't see what's so amusing when you look at Thor's higher end showings. If I make a list of all of higher end showings, him taking on Thanos wouldn't even be impressive to be honest. erm

As a matter of fact, Thor has gone toe to toe with Thanos.

*cough* Masterson *cough*

laughing out loud

WhiteWitchKing
Thanos wins.

Nihilist
Why do people keep posting scans of the Runner , Superman or Thor can't fight at the speeds Runner moves at and they don't have the space gem to manipulate space... Is it desperation maybe.

And laughing out loud at Thor being. A match for Thanos, Thor can only stand up to Thanos with Things help or when he is pre occupied fighting others

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by TheTyrant
IMO he is more powerful than Superman, but not even close to Thanos. Thanos remains unscratched after a full power blast from the Silver Surfer, yet Darkseid gets Orion's hand through his chest. Thanos got drax's hand through the chest

Orion > drax


Not to mention the fact that orion last time orion fought ds before that it was a draw and orion was out of action for several days where as ds was back on his grind within the same day unscathed

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Nihilist
Why do people keep posting scans of the Runner , Superman or Thor can't fight at the speeds Runner moves at and they don't have the space gem to manipulate space... Is it desperation maybe.

And laughing out loud at Thor being. A match for Thanos, Thor can only stand up to Thanos with Things help or when he is pre occupied fighting others

Did you read the arc where that happened? You can't honestly think Thing contributed anything to that fight if you had. Thing's punch literally did not budge Thanos and was effortlessly taken out (Was Thanos amped in some way that I did not know of that made that possible?). Unless your joking like I was. Obviously Thor did all of the work there. Not surprising.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/StalematesThanos1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/StalematesThanos2.jpg

stick out tongue

I'm pretty sure there were no circumstances involved in the above.

And, the only other time Thor has taken on Thanos when he was occupied with fighting others was when Spider-Man webbed his eyes:

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos5.jpg

Rage.Of.Olympus
And just so that no one thinks this shit is a one time occurrence:

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos19.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos20.jpg

Anyways, I'm not in the mood to troll Thanos today.

Team still wins though.

KuRuPT Thanosi

KuRuPT Thanosi

Rage.Of.Olympus

Nihilist
Like said Thor could only put Thanos when he and Thing hit Thanos together doing no damage at all. When Thor put down Thanos during the Ig it was onlt because Thanos was fighting others at various, which is backed up by pre res Thanos showing against Thing/Thor and Thanos stopping Thors hammer with complete ease in PADs captain Marvells run

invisibles
lets see thanos getting his ass handed to him by gamora

thanos getting his ass handed to him by runner

thanos getting kicked in the face by spider-man

thanos getting his ass handed to him by thor

TEAM STOMPS

lightyeargee
Superman is as strng as Thanos and as Durable taling his high end feats into consideration. An imperiex probe turned Captain Marve inside out but did nothing to Superman.A double black hole did not hurt Superman. Thor has cracked Scelestials armor and pushed Back Falactus. At the very height of the Duo's powers, they would stomp Thanos. These are not some feebs like Surfer who forgets all of his powers when ever Thanos is in the room. Thanos has Never fought the likes of Tjor and Superman at one time. There might be an argument if Thanos had beaten say Thor and Surfer or hell even BRB and Gladiator non jobbing. But that hasn't happened.Duo win.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Nihilist
Like said Thor could only put Thanos when he and Thing hit Thanos together doing no damage at all. When Thor put down Thanos during the Ig it was onlt because Thanos was fighting others at various, which is backed up by pre res Thanos showing against Thing/Thor and Thanos stopping Thors hammer with complete ease in PADs captain Marvells run

Once again, the Thing's punch didn't even budge Thanos in that story. The Thing did not add anything resembling significant to that fight. Thor's blows were rocking him without the Thing's help. Thanos will feel Thor's attacks.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos4.jpg

Point to me where Thanos was still fighting someone in the scene where Masterson took him down with a throw.

How does that battle back it up exactly? That attacks from Thor can rock him, and toss in the Thing, and Thanos resorts to energy blasts. The Coward. No wonder his afraid of fighting the Hulk.

Yup. The Captain Marvel scene where Thanos decided to block Thor's hammer attack instead of attempting to tank it like he did definitely helps your side. thumb up

I'll be back in 20. I gotta go eat and take a shower.

invisibles
this thread should also be a poll just to clear how much the team stomps thanos he is too overated around here

Rage.Of.Olympus
Masterson Thor sure likes taking on Thanos.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos7-1.jpg

laughing out loud

KuRuPT Thanosi

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