Twilight vs Marvel

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Wild Shadow
Hulk
Elektra
Spiderman
Venom
Harry Osborn
Wolverine
blade

vs

The Cullens

fight takes place on the cullens property.. Hulk has landed on the property from one of his mile long jumps...

and starts to walk through the woods and interrupts the clan while playing baseball.. fight starts. Hulk dont like loud noise and puny ppl dont leave when hulk shows up...

peter and harry are friends again and have tagged along for a story and some pictures about the town,,

Elektra has bn hired to assassinate edward by the council and sees this as an opportunity when hiding in the woods and seeing hulks arrival..

Logan is traveling on his stolen harley retracing his steps and vague memories..

venom is after pete for revenge....

spidey sense goes off when a giant tree flies through the air near town harry and pete go to investigate in costume and arrive to see hulk being attacked by a gang of what appears are vampires.. petey sets up his camera in a tree when they are also attacked..

elektra is ready to bounce but the vampires pick up on her and her attempt to kill edward..

wolverine driving on the road is nearly driven off the road from the incoming tree and his hyper senses picks up on the strange animal scents and primal roar that strikes a cord in him and decides to investigate and help.. a fellow creature in pain... he arrives to find he dont like the scents he is picking up from the tweens and their fangs and eyes lock and he dont like what he sees at all the animal in him sees them as not natural and a threat to himself and others

venom in town smiles and knows spidey is where the action is and decides to run toward the bruha if anyone is gonna kill spidey its him.

if it is too one sided for the twlight vangs lets also assume that the wolf pack decide to help them out since they dont want anymore outsiders

blade is hunting vamps due to rumors and shows up for the shindig

McNasty996
Hulks rips each and every one of them limb from limb,
and I'm being serious, I don't see how they could put him
down and did my thread give you this idea?

Wild Shadow
no. no expression

Placidity
Jasper can revert Hulk back into Banner.

The rest except for Spider-man and Venom aren't that big of a threat to the Cullens.

Wild Shadow
how so?

McNasty996
Originally posted by Placidity
Jasper can revert Hulk back into Banner.

The rest except for Spider-man and Venom aren't that big of a threat to the Cullens.

How could she do that, is she evoking an aura or is it psychic
based

MooCowofJustice
Out of curiosity, when Hulk has failed to defeat Wolverine before, how would anyone on the opposing team do it, ever?

marwash22
Harry and Blade both die quickly. it was really mean to throw Harry in this, even Goblin enhanced, he's gonna get murdered.

Spiderman and Venom can both evade using the trees but neither has a chance of hurting any of the Cullen's.

Since this is movie Elektra, she's gonna die. Movie Elektra isn't nearly as badass as her comic book counterpart.

Basically this becomes all about Wolverine and Hulk. As Placidity said, Jasper controls emotions, Hulk runs on emotions... Jasper can revert Hulk back to Banner and rendere him useless. However, the only way this would work is if Edward reads Banner's mind and figures out that he runs on anger and tells Jasper to use his ability on Hulk.

The Cullen's can't hurt Wolverine and Wolverine's not fast enough to hurt them.

All that said, i think Marvel has a chance to win this. Since this is movie Hulk, i dunno how you wanna handle this. We've never seen anyone try to read Hulk's mind in the movie, so if we can't use comic book evidence, I'd say it's unlikely that Edward would be able to read Banner's subconscious mind and figure out Hulk runs on anger.

Without Edward's telepathy and Jasper's emotions ability, the only way to fight Hulk (and Logan) is head on. If they rush Hulk and Wolverine with melee attacks, they'll hurt both but that's it, so then it becomes a stamina game. Once the Cullen's start to slow down, Hulk will grab and rip them apart and Wolverine will eventually start in with the slashing.

The only way the Cullen's can win is if Edward can find Banner's subconscious mind; from what I've seen from Edward, there's nothing that suggests he's that skilled at telepathy.

Marvel wins.

Robtard
This reverting Hulk to banner is just a guess, only thing to revert Hulk in the films was Betty and Hulk stopping fighting/calming down because he didn't want her injured. Norton Hulk, similar, he had to calm down himself.

For all we know, vampire girl gets in his head, it just makes him angrier and as Ang-Hulk showed, his anger-output is seemingly limitless, as he overcharged his fathers ability to absorb. Norton had similar, in the final fight when he became butt-hurt and Betty was in danger.

Osborn is on par with Spider-man, so not sure why people think he's going down quickly. He can also fly, which is a huge plus.

Wolverine will be a punching bag they can't break.

Not sure if they can take down Venom, he's supposed to be more durable than Spider-man; that fools taken tons of damage.

marwash22
Wait, Harry has his glider?

Robtard
Originally posted by marwash22
Wait, Harry has his glider?

Tis how he gets around, so I assume yes.

marwash22
well that changes things quite a bit. Harry can drop bombs from above; that should make it easier for Hulk or Wolverine to get hold of the Cullen's.

BruceSkywalker
Marvel stomps

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Robtard
This reverting Hulk to banner is just a guess, only thing to revert Hulk in the films was Betty and Hulk stopping fighting/calming down because he didn't want her injured. Norton Hulk, similar, he had to calm down himself.

For all we know, vampire girl gets in his head, it just makes him angrier and as Ang-Hulk showed, his anger-output is seemingly limitless, as he overcharged his fathers ability to absorb. Norton had similar, in the final fight when he became butt-hurt and Betty was in danger.

Osborn is on par with Spider-man, so not sure why people think he's going down quickly. He can also fly, which is a huge plus.

Wolverine will be a punching bag they can't break.

Not sure if they can take down Venom, he's supposed to be more durable than Spider-man; that fools taken tons of damage. Robtard speaks truth.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Hulk
Elektra
Spiderman
Venom
Harry Osborn
Wolverine
blade

vs

The Cullens

fight takes place on the cullens property.. Hulk has landed on the property from one of his mile long jumps...

and starts to walk through the woods and interrupts the clan while playing baseball.. fight starts. Hulk dont like loud noise and puny ppl dont leave when hulk shows up...

peter and harry are friends again and have tagged along for a story and some pictures about the town,,

Elektra has bn hired to assassinate edward by the council and sees this as an opportunity when hiding in the woods and seeing hulks arrival..

Logan is traveling on his stolen harley retracing his steps and vague memories..

venom is after pete for revenge....

spidey sense goes off when a giant tree flies through the air near town harry and pete go to investigate in costume and arrive to see hulk being attacked by a gang of what appears are vampires.. petey sets up his camera in a tree when they are also attacked..

elektra is ready to bounce but the vampires pick up on her and her attempt to kill edward..

wolverine driving on the road is nearly driven off the road from the incoming tree and his hyper senses picks up on the strange animal scents and primal roar that strikes a cord in him and decides to investigate and help.. a fellow creature in pain... he arrives to find he dont like the scents he is picking up from the tweens and their fangs and eyes lock and he dont like what he sees at all the animal in him sees them as not natural and a threat to himself and others

venom in town smiles and knows spidey is where the action is and decides to run toward the bruha if anyone is gonna kill spidey its him.

if it is too one sided for the twlight vangs lets also assume that the wolf pack decide to help them out since they dont want anymore outsiders

blade is hunting vamps due to rumors and shows up for the shindig

Since all of the Cullens have a Flash type of speed (not nearly as fast when Flash is going top speed, of course), none of them can keep up with them and only Spider-man actually sees the buttrape coming before it happens with his danger-precog.

Wolverine is NOT taken out, however. He solos this. His healing abilities should prevent the venom from doing shit so not even a bite to turn him would work (imo). They would, however, all be much stronger and faster than Wolverine so they could literally tear all of his flesh off. From my understanding, he'd just regen it.

The strength the Cullens have is all stronger, by far, than anything any of those characters have minus Hulk.

Also, Jasper would be using his powers to calm everyone down from the very beginning. That's a given. Hulk's out of the equation as soon before the first swing is even taken.

Don't forget Alice: she just predicts everything that's going to happen and the Cullens device a plan to prevents a loss from any of them...which is what she always does.



Still, I don't see how the vamps are beating Wolverine.


If movie four was out, then I could make the argument that Vampire teeth are on level with adamantium because it says that the only thing that can cut through vampire flesh are vampire and werewolf teeth. Sounds an awful lot like adamantium from Origins, doesn't it? smile

marwash22
^ The only thing i disagree with is the last part. Their teeth are strong enough to tear through granite-type-skin... wolverine's claws are strong enough to cut titanium-alloy composite helicopter blades that are moving at full speed.

Wolverine's Adamantiun claws > vampire teeth.

NemeBro
Spiderman took a beating from a gigantic Sandman.

He can certainly take the blows from the Cullens.

Also, he is fast enough to dodge bullets, so I wager he could keep up with them in speed as well. Logic says the same is true of Venom.

Not sure if they could hurt them though, trapping them with web is still possible.

Robtard
Wolverine's claws > granite-skin.

In Origins, he cut through what looked like 8-10 inches of reinforced steel, when he escaped the lab. (Origin's allowed?)

From what I'm told, Edward's skin was cracked from being slammed.

Still say the Hulk calming thing is pure speculation. Could work, could also have the opposite effect and Hulk goes from angry to butt-hurt unstoppable rage and doesn't stop swinging/pounding until everyone around him is splatter.

Edward never showed speed close to the Flash's, he's super-fast, but it wasn't 'blink-of-an-eye' speed like Lestat showed in IWTV.

jinXed by JaNx
Twilight is SO gay

Wild Shadow
just making sure that you guys know the cullens can get the native wolf pack for support.

marwash22
The Wolfpack would help, but remember what Ang's Hulk did to those giant mutant dogs? lol.

McNasty996
That's gotta hurt

Wild Shadow
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Out of curiosity, when Hulk has failed to defeat Wolverine before, how would anyone on the opposing team do it, ever? we use only movie feats unless you are using animation movie.. either way i dont see wolverine putting much of a fight against movie hulk

MooCowofJustice
If you guys will count that animated version of WWH then I really don't see Marvel losing this. There is also an animated movie of Hulk vs Wolverine. I think WWH was one of Hulk's strongest moments in the comics, and it's incredible. I think he managed to beat the Surfer and gave Sentry some real hell.

I don't recall movie Wolverine being as good as comic Wolverine unless there's something really win in Hulk vs Wolverine, but movie Wolverine was still shot with an adamantium tipped bullet and all it cost him was his memory.

Movie Wolverine also has a good chunk of his regeneration in tact. X-Men 3 has him regenerating from Jean Grey who basically rips people apart in tiny pieces. She also was unable to do that to Wolverine's bones. I don't think anything in Twilight can put him down, and if they give him the shot he can probably kill them.

Placidity
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice

Movie Wolverine also has a good chunk of his regeneration in tact. X-Men 3 has him regenerating from Jean Grey who basically rips people apart in tiny pieces. She also was unable to do that to Wolverine's bones. I don't think anything in Twilight can put him down, and if they give him the shot he can probably kill them.

Phoenix could have screwed him up way more if she wanted to. She wasn't even trying against Wolverine.

Basically, Wolverine is too slow to tag anyone. I'm pretty sure he can be knocked out (i.e vs Creed in X1). Or they could just bury him under piles of big rocks and trees.

Hulk - Reverted by Jasper
Elektra - Dies
Spiderman - Will fall when outnumbered, also vulnerable to venom
Venom - Will fall when outnumbered, also vulnerable to venom
Harry Osborn - Too slow, Dies
Wolverine - Too slow, gets knocked out
Blade - Dies

Along with the Wolf Pack, Twilight takes this comfortably.

It all comes down to Hulk. I think some people here don't think Jasper can revert him, but I don't see why not. If he isn't reverted, then its a tie since he can't touch any of them and they can't take him down.

McNasty996
I want to know how does the emotional control work, is it
some type of aura or is it phsychic based, anyway I really don't
see it working, but there is no evidence to say that it will or that
it won't because somethng like that has never been tried in the movie
and even then how will she know to do it even if it does somehow work
because to me if they can't take him down in the first couple of seconds
then I see things going downhill for them when he starts to destroy the enviornment and impeding on some of thier movement


btw, what version of hulk are we using, I'm asking this because hulk wasn't that much of a slowpoke and seemed to incease in speed with rage in some versions.

marwash22
Jasper's power is mental based just like all the psychic abilities.

It's not that i don't think it would work, in fact, i think Jasper can definitely revert Hulk to Banner. Problem is, Jasper has no way of knowing Hulk is fueled by anger. The only way he would know this is if Edward can read Banner's dormant mind and then tell Jasper about the anger. In the midst of battlel, i don't see it happening. Especially since Harry apparently has his glider and will be dropping bombs from above.

steverules_2
Wolverine pwns each one of them cuz they ruined his last smoke

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by steverules_2
Wolverine pwns each one of them cuz they ruined his last smoke win.

dadudemon
Originally posted by marwash22
^ The only thing i disagree with is the last part. Their teeth are strong enough to tear through granite-type-skin... wolverine's claws are strong enough to cut titanium-alloy composite helicopter blades that are moving at full speed.

Wolverine's Adamantiun claws > vampire teeth.

If that were true, then why didn't Carlisle just get a diamond edge blade and perform a C-section?

That's rather simple: It's what the book said: only Vampire and Werewolf teeth can get through their skin.

Buuuuuuut...

Originally posted by Robtard
From what I'm told, Edward's skin was cracked from being slammed.


I forgot about that. So a non-canon fight that resulted in non-canon type of damage wins this debate, again.

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon

I forgot about that. So a non-canon fight that resulted in non-canon type of damage wins this debate, again.

No reason to get snooty, it was actually shown on screen.

If you want to discard what was shown onscreen in favor of written material, then Marvel has shitloads more to draw from.

NemeBro
If we go by written material, Hulk claps his hands and wins the fight, killing all the vampires.

XanatosForever
Originally posted by dadudemon
If that were true, then why didn't Carlisle just get a diamond edge blade and perform a C-section?

Because diamond edge =/= adamantium, and they were kinda short on time? Y'know, what with the whole Bella being eaten alive by her half-breed abomination of a "daughter"?

Bardock42
Originally posted by dadudemon

If movie four was out, then I could make the argument that Vampire teeth are on level with adamantium because it says that the only thing that can cut through vampire flesh are vampire and werewolf teeth. Sounds an awful lot like adamantium from Origins, doesn't it? smile

That would be weird against what happened in the movies though, since vampires ripped other vampires heads off.

Robtard
Originally posted by XanatosForever
Because diamond edge =/= adamantium, and they were kinda short on time? Y'know, what with the whole Bella being eaten alive by her half-breed abomination of a "daughter"?

Good lord, and people actually continue to read this shit.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord, and people actually continue to read this shit.

Sarah stopped reading Breaking Dawn, cause it is apparently awful.

Robtard
Originally posted by Bardock42
Sarah stopped reading Breaking Dawn, cause it is apparently awful.

Tell her I applaud her mature attitude and I'd gladly give her anal any day of the week except Wednesday, I'm busy.

Darth Martin
Why is Hulk here? Are the Twilight Vampires really on the level of Spider-Man?

Robtard
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Why is Hulk here? Are the Twilight Vampires really on the level of Spider-Man?

IMO, using the Flash fight scene from the first film, I don't think they're all that much faster than him in fighting, running/charging, yes.

They don't have his agility or reaction-time though.

Durability, Spider-man has taken massive beatings, so he's covered in the blunt force trauma area. Since the Twilights don't have claws, they'd have to bite him.

I'm uncertain what his punches would do to them though and they do have a rapid healing factor. So time would be on Twilight side in a long fight.

Edit: Webbing could be a deciding factor, as they can't cut it and it's impossibly strong/resilient.

Darth Martin
So silver, garlic, and sunlight doesn't work on these guys?

Robtard
Originally posted by Darth Martin
So silver, garlic, and sunlight doesn't work on these guys?

Don't think so. Sunlight makes them sparkle. No, that isn't a joke.

Darth Martin
So the preferred way to kill them is ripping them apart with pure strength? Can't Spider-Man, Hulk, Ock, and Venom do this?

marwash22
Hulk can rip them apart, Wolverine can stab them...


TwiVamps have skin that is granite-hard... ripping them apart would be akin to taking a slab of Granite and pulling it apart... Spiderman and Venom aren't that strong.

Darth Martin
Wolverine can stab anyone if they stand still. This isn't the "Hulk vs." version. I believe this is Hugh Jackman's version.

Hulk soloes the battlefield, yes.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Darth Martin
So the preferred way to kill them is ripping them apart with pure strength? Can't Spider-Man, Hulk, Ock, and Venom do this? It's said that that is how to put them down for good. I would imagine that if someone were strong enough to rip out their throats they'd bleed out.

Darth Martin
So these Vamps are more durable than Blade's prey? Because Blade has ripped a Vampire's throat out onscreen and thwon it back at him.

marwash22
far more durable. the only thing in the Twilight universe that is proven to break the skin of a vampire is...

Werewolves teeth/jaws
Vampires teeth
A vampire with base-Hulk-like strength slamming them into a marble floor.

Darth Martin
So would a bite from Blade do the trick?

XanatosForever
Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord, and people actually continue to read this shit.

That's just one example.

marwash22
Originally posted by Darth Martin
So would a bite from Blade do the trick? Not that i can recall. i don't think there's anything that would suggest Blade has a bite-force stronger than any other vampire (in his universe). Only Twilight Vamps have that ridiculous biting strength. Even if he could bite through their skin, their speed is on par with a relatively slow moving Wally West.

Bardock42
Originally posted by marwash22
Not that i can recall. i don't think there's anything that would suggest Blade has a bite-force stronger than any other vampire (in his universe). Only Twilight Vamps have that ridiculous biting strength. Even if he could bite through their skin, their speed is on par with a relatively slow moving Wally West.

How do you guys figure that. What in the movies suggests their speed, except that those big wolves can keep up with them?

marwash22
Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you guys figure that. What in the movies suggests their speed, except that those big wolves can keep up with them? Only one example is needed...

Ed and Bella were looking at each other and Bella goes to get out of the car; the following occurs...

Edward unbuckled his seatbelt
Opened his car door
Closed his car door
Opened the passenger side door for Bella

all that happened before Bella could turn around. That's comic book type speed.

Robtard
Originally posted by marwash22
far more durable. the only thing in the Twilight universe that is proven to break the skin of a vampire is...

Werewolves teeth/jaws
Vampires teeth
A vampire with base-Hulk-like strength slamming them into a marble floor.


That doesn't really tell us the whole picture. What would: What have they been shown to resist? Bullets? Being hit by a train? Falling great distances? Etc.

Where do you get that "hulk base strength" from?

marwash22
Originally posted by Robtard
That doesn't really tell us the whole picture. What would: What have they been shown to resist? Bullets? Being hit by a train? Falling great distances? Etc. I get your point, and to it, there isn't much in the way of proof of what they are resistant to.

However, a lot can be inferred by what is known. Their skin being granite-hard is a fact. Using what we know about granite, we know...

Bullets wouldn't penetrate their skin... at least, no bullet that Blade carries. Short of .50 cal sniper rifle or a pistol with diamond-tipped ammo, no bullet is getting through their skin. As far as i know, Blade doesn't use diamond-tipped ammunition or sniper rifles.

Originally posted by Robtard
Where do you get that "hulk base strength" from? i said "base-hulk-'like"... it was an estimation, not saying they are actually as strong as base Hulk, but it's pretty darn close if it isn't.

Edward (who is one of the weaker vamps in Twilight) knocking over a fully grown tree with one hand says a bit about how strong they are.

Placidity
Originally posted by Robtard
That doesn't really tell us the whole picture. What would: What have they been shown to resist? Bullets? Being hit by a train? Falling great distances? Etc.


Try this - Edward needed to go to the Volturi to get himself killed. He wouldn't have been able to kill himself with other means (except Werewolves, but I guess he didn't think/want that).

As for Vampire speed, Werewolves being able to keep up is just silly to me. In the novel, it was left to the imagination, and that was okay. But on film, when Vamps are shown to be moving at blurring speeds, the Wolves just shouldn't be able to keep up. Even if Wolves could match their running speed, they would never be able to out-maneuver the Vamps.

I think Wolves matching Vamp speed is just PIS to me. The way its depicted on film, there is definitely a disparity between speed used when vampires fought other vampires and when vampires fought werewolves. I don't expect anyone else to accept this as PIS though, cause you know, of the strict on-screen rules etc.

marwash22
It's not PIS because wolves are quadrupeds and vamps are bipeds; it only makes sense that a wolf (with four feet) can run faster than a vampire (with two feet). Also, when it comes to combat, the wolves can't keep up with a vamp's maneuverability... this will be shown in 'Eclipse'.

Wei Phoenix
Base Hulk is at least 100 tons. Those vampires showed strength nowhere near that.

marwash22
stop nitpicking. I used "base-Hulk-like strength" as a rudimentary example. When you call someone a badass motherphucker... you don't actually mean, they phuck mother's; at least, i don't. Point is, they're effin strong... much stronger than vampires in other portrayals.

Ed, (who is relatively weak when compared to someone like Emmett), is still capable of uprooting a full grown tree with one hand.

Wild Shadow
blade showed superhuman combat reflexive speed when he fought deacon in part one with the sword they were blocking and parring at superhuman speed till blade finally sliced his arm off...

blade was also able to slam the vamp thugs into the cement marble walls as well similar feat to the edward moment,.. in part two blade an numak or whatever his name was were breaking the statue when they were tossing each other around as well as breaking the marble floor...same thing when he fought dracula.. the tweens strength is not that superior then blades or even equal to a base hulk.

aside from that elektra was shown to possess superhuman speed or bending time ninja trick in the intro of the movie when she killed all the guards and the mob boss... whispering in his ear and then being across the room...

anyways i did not see any real Healing feats from the vamps that would suggest they can continue fighting if they are gutted by wolverine also remember they will all be busy so that not one or two can gang up on another.. distractions will arise and opening will be exploited

Placidity
Originally posted by marwash22
It's not PIS because wolves are quadrupeds and vamps are bipeds; it only makes sense that a wolf (with four feet) can run faster than a vampire (with two feet).

Um no, its the level of superspeed, not how many feet you have. Flash only has two feet too.

Vamps were running at blurring speeds, Werewolves should not be able to keep up.

marwash22
Originally posted by Placidity
Um no, its the level of superspeed, not how many feet you have. Flash only has two feet too.

Vamps were running at blurring speeds, Werewolves should not be able to keep up. Um, yes.

The wolves were given a level of superspeed by the writer of the series and the reason they can keep up with vamps is because they have four legs. It should be noted that Victoria and Edward are both faster than werewolves... it's a case by case situation. But in most cases, the reasoning (given the by the author) that werewolves can keep up with vamps while running, is because of the 2-to-1 leg advantage.

Your Flash example does not correlate because the reason he's fast is completely different than why Twilight characters are fast... however, if Wally West did have four legs, he'd be even faster; this is science, not my opinion... Put Usain Bolt against a cheetah and the cheetah is gonna smoke Usain.

Four legs > two... i dunno how you can dispute this. Even if you can dispute it, it doesn't matter because the author of the book says this is the reason.

Placidity
Originally posted by marwash22
Um, yes.

The wolves were given a level of superspeed by the writer of the series and the reason they can keep up with vamps is because they have four legs. It should be noted that Victoria and Edward are both faster than werewolves... it's a case by case situation. But in most cases, the reasoning (given the by the author) that werewolves can keep up with vamps while running, is because of the 2-to-1 leg advantage.

Your Flash example does not correlate because the reason he's fast is completely different than why Twilight characters are fast... however, if Wally West did have four legs, he'd be even faster; this is science, not my opinion... Put Usain Bolt against a cheetah and the cheetah is gonna smoke Usain.

Four legs > two... i dunno how you can dispute this. Even if you can dispute it, it doesn't matter because the author of the book says this is the reason.

No.

Number of legs has nothing to do with it. Vamps can move so fast they are a blur, Wolves don't. Why can't you get that in your head? It seems you have no sense of logic.

The Flash example does "correlate". Why they are fast has nothing to do with the discussion.

marwash22
lulz. ok, buddy... believe what you need to believe.

Placidity
Originally posted by marwash22
lulz. ok, buddy... believe what you need to believe.

Lol, I'll accept your concession.

It's quite easy to prove. If you measure the speed at which the Vampires move in their speedy scenes, and compare to the speed of the wolves when they were running in the forest, you'll realize you are completely wrong.

DDM should do it if he can be bothered.

Robtard
Originally posted by Placidity
Try this - Edward needed to go to the Volturi to get himself killed. He wouldn't have been able to kill himself with other means (except Werewolves, but I guess he didn't think/want that).

As for Vampire speed, Werewolves being able to keep up is just silly to me. In the novel, it was left to the imagination, and that was okay. But on film, when Vamps are shown to be moving at blurring speeds, the Wolves just shouldn't be able to keep up. Even if Wolves could match their running speed, they would never be able to out-maneuver the Vamps.

I think Wolves matching Vamp speed is just PIS to me. The way its depicted on film, there is definitely a disparity between speed used when vampires fought other vampires and when vampires fought werewolves. I don't expect anyone else to accept this as PIS though, cause you know, of the strict on-screen rules etc.

That just tells me either Edward is an idiot, or he's resistant to things such as razors and pills, which jives with his emo-ness.

I think the Granite-like skin thing is fair though. As well as the healing factor.

Speed was inconsistent. Saw a clip of the werewolf fight scenes, didn't jive with that blurring-speed scene.

RE: Blaxican
So is saying jive over and over your desperate attempt to sound hip, or what?

Robtard
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So is saying jive over and over your desperate attempt to sound hip, or what?

I've been saying "jive" since before you were born. Ya digg?

RE: Blaxican
And therein lies the problem. That ain't no timeless phrase foo'!

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Robtard
I've been saying "jive" since before you were born. Ya digg? What's the difference between shucking and jiving? Do they go hand in hand?

Robtard
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And therein lies the problem. That ain't no timeless phrase foo'!

So wrong; you're just upset I make a better black-person than you and I'm not even trying.

Robtard
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's the difference between shucking and jiving? Do they go hand in hand?

Only "shucking" I know of has to do with corn, "jive" can mean several different things in slang.

Placidity
Originally posted by Robtard

Speed was inconsistent. Saw a clip of the werewolf fight scenes, didn't jive with that blurring-speed scene.

Thats what I'm saying. If they didn't slow down the Vamps in those scenes the Werewolves would never catch them.

marwash22
people typically jive while they shuck... if this were the 30's, in which case I'd probably be doing the shucking, (dunno about the jiving) and the internet wouldn't exist and i would have missed this riveting conversation.

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Robtard
So it's settled, we all agree that Robtard makes a better black-person than RE:Blaxican.

Thread can be closed, it serves no further purpose.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Robtard
Only "shucking" I know of has to do with corn, "jive" can mean several different things in slang. There's something blacks do called shuckin'and jivin', I am sure of it.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Robtard
So it's settled, we all agree that Robtard makes a better black-person than RE:Blaxican.

Thread can be closed, it serves no further purpose.

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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
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Bardock42
I don't think Werewolves keeping up with the Vampires is the PIS, it is that they blur. However, one might say that perhaps that's how they move and they blur at lower speeds, rather that it is how our eye reacts to their speed.

Rogue Jedi
What difference does it make? The wolves chased Victoria all the way to the Canadian border, yeah, they can keep up with her. They also chased down Laurent.

Bardock42
It's important to compare it to their actual speed.

Rogue Jedi
I disagree, but have at it.

RE: Blaxican
I hate all of you guys.

Rogue Jedi
Why? Because we are a superior race?

Wild Shadow
who is we?

Robtard
Not you, that's for sure.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
who is we? No. The South Africans from Lethal Weapon 2.

Blinky
The "calming" Hulk thing is purely speculation, Hulk in the movies was not subject to any psychic attack, so we have nothing to stand on. Thus you have no grounds to say that some wench could "calm" him. If we draw info from the comics (and you on the shit-pile books), Hulk rage easily blocks most physic attacks, even from heavy hitters like Prof X. Comic Hulk utterly destroys the whole Twilight cast, BTW.

Also, need I remind people that Ang Hulk survived a Nuke? Do the Twilight chodes have anything comparable to the physical force of a nuke? Nah. Granite skin? Hahahahahaha Hulk eats granite for breakfast. Even if Hulk can't kill them he'd knock all of these kids out, one by one.

RE: Blaxican
They don't, though your post was a little... fast.

Placidity
Originally posted by Blinky
If we draw info from the comics (and you on the shit-pile books), Hulk rage easily blocks most physic attacks, even from heavy hitters like Prof X. Comic Hulk utterly destroys the whole Twilight cast, BTW.


Hulk from the Comics is a whole different thing. Twilight in the books is very similar. So drawing anything from the comics is silly.

Plus I suspect what you said is from the WWH storyline?

Blinky
Originally posted by Placidity
Hulk from the Comics is a whole different thing. Twilight in the books is very similar. So drawing anything from the comics is silly.

Plus I suspect what you said is from the WWH storyline?

Nah, it's just silly if you want Twilight to win. Twilight's original medium is shitty books while Hulk are comics. So if Twilight fan boys get to fill in the blanks with things from the books, why shouldn't Hulk get the same treatment? Conclusion : leave out books/comic books.

Nah, Hulk has always been difficult to manipulate mentally, In WWH he was impossible to mind-****.

BTW: Thanks for not trying to claim this : Twilight fairies > nuke.

Wild Shadow
chalk it up to pis but with hulk it has become consistent pis whic makes it okay but like to also point out anyone that has felt real pain and knows rage can tank hulks Rage block and utterly pawn hulk even savage mindless hulk.. cable with lvl 4 psi powers and no formal training did it to hulk during onslaught event

RE: Blaxican
He's gotten stronger since the Onslaught event. I can't remember which person it was, but, either Emma or Xavier tried to mind rape and the feedback from his mental psyche damn near knocked them out.

Placidity
Originally posted by Blinky
Nah, it's just silly if you want Twilight to win. Twilight's original medium is shitty books while Hulk are comics. So if Twilight fan boys get to fill in the blanks with things from the books, why shouldn't Hulk get the same treatment? Conclusion : leave out books/comic books.


Who tried to include non-movie material here (except from you)?

Blinky
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
chalk it up to pis but with hulk it has become consistent pis whic makes it okay but like to also point out anyone that has felt real pain and knows rage can tank hulks Rage block and utterly pawn hulk even savage mindless hulk.. cable with lvl 4 psi powers and no formal training did it to hulk during onslaught event

Yeah and Prof X utterly failed to do so countless times. Cable pwning Hulk with psi.... just a little PIS.... wait why the f*ck are we talking about comics?


Originally posted by Placidity
Who tried to include non-movie material here (except from you)?

Somebody brought up some Diamond skin bullshit from the books. Didn't you read the thread?

Wild Shadow
its not the lvl of psi power but the lvl of pain thresh hold one can take.. cable mention this to hulk about his rage./. how he knows real rage what it is to feel pain how his whole life has bn such he then tanked moved passed hulk's rage and turned his @$$ off with a massive psi bolt..

emma, jean nor chuck have felt or know about real pain which is why guys like logan have manage to overwhelm them and cause feed back when he has a fit..

you give guys like logan psi powers pain thresh hold and will power and they would do the same to hulk as cable did

Placidity
Originally posted by Blinky

Somebody brought up some Diamond skin bullshit from the books. Didn't you read the thread?

Yes, I'm sure thats in the film too.

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Juk3n
Marvel Humilistomp, The Venom symbiote leaves its host as we've seen it can (Brock), Jumps onto wolverine, giving him the spidey powerset to go with his already formidable damage soak. Armed with precog and webbing and a speed boost, class 20str and his claws, he makes vampire kebabs for the rest of the afternoon.

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Robtard
Originally posted by Blinky

BTW: Thanks for not trying to claim this : Twilight fairies > nuke.

The love that Bella and Edward have for each other > a nuke! *flicks hair*

Wild Shadow
i dont even buy their love its horrible acting the sad part they are actually dating its like two robots staring at each other

Trackz
just took the girlfriend to see the newest ones, the tiwlight vampires don't have to be burned and everything, and they also can't heal, most of them went down after being beheaded, this team should take it

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
The love that Bella and Edward have for each other > a nuke! *flicks hair*


laughing

Wild Shadow
so who wins this?

Hewhoknowsall
What's with the huge number of Twilight threads? Twilight loses in almost all of them.

What are the Twilight Vampires going to do against the Hulk or Wolverine?

McNasty996
Mmm this is still open, anyay marvel wins

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