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Force only.

hmmm ooohhh errr idkkkkk.......... VADER! he excels in the force, while mace is good, but not excellent

Blasts away droids battalions with the Force.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Blasts away droids battalions with the Force. let me tell you what will happen in this battle:
battle starts
vader chokes mace
mace dies
the end

Vaapad can be used without a lightsaber. Without any weapons. Mace says as much. It's a state-of-mind, afterall.

Vader's not winning this.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Vaapad can be used without a lightsaber. Without any weapons. Mace says as much. It's a state-of-mind, afterall.

Vader's not winning this. okkkkk

You're no fun. I'm going to go argue with Gideon some more.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You're no fun. I'm going to go argue with Gideon some more. hahaha im sorry. something u should know about me: im lazy so i dont look stuff up

Originally posted by kodiak430
hahaha im sorry. something u should know about me: im lazy so i dont look stuff up
Something you should know about me: I'm lazy so even though I do look stuff up, I'll drop an argument if you're persistent/thick-headed enough to continue it, leading to the belief I've conceded when really I just don't care.

Vader pwns Mace with Choke. Mind rapes Mace.

Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur. - "Today is a good day for someone else to die."

I see Vader winning.

In a force fight I'm inclined to believe Vader wins, but in a lightsaber duel vader gets destroyed.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Something you should know about me: I'm lazy so even though I do look stuff up, I'll drop an argument if you're persistent/thick-headed enough to continue it, leading to the belief I've conceded when really I just don't care.

Or do you?

vader ftw

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Or do you?
If you say so.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If you say so. Or do I?

Damn it.

but still, even with vaapad, thats not going to protect him from vaders force choke. however, in the movies, vader never uses force choke during an actual fight, so im giving this to mace

Can hand to hand combat be used? Because if so Mace could use Shatterpoint to break Vader's suit into pieces, in which case Vader would die.

no, it cant be used cuz they are tied in ropes.... DUH of course it can!

ROTS Vader or gimp-Vader? Or......Vader post-ROTS had he not been gimped?

ROTS Vader: Lose, still babykins here, though he did well against Kenobi.

Gimp-Vader: Lose (likely), he may have learned more of the Sith and dark side from Sidious after he was crippled, but still, he lost half his body.

Post-ROTS, no gimp Vader, able to realize his potential: The battle would be EPIC. Vader would win in the end, the whole chosen one you know...and he had a few more years to learn more of the dark side and the Sith.

This is OT Vader.

HtH cannot be used.

Not a physical fight.

Originally posted by kodiak430
but still, even with vaapad, thats not going to protect him from vaders force choke. however, in the movies, vader never uses force choke during an actual fight, so im giving this to mace Great logic, Vader uses more force powers in the TFU novel and game.