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Anime feats only.

Both girls are in character meaning Hinata has Naruto as her drive.

You're trying much too hard.

No offence to Sakura fans, but Hinata wins this one.

* Quick, agile and flexible enough to dodge shots from an opponent with an elastic body.

* Can protect herself with Protective Eight Trigrams Sixty Four Palm.

* Defeated Jiga who had beaten Naruto.

* Was the only one in her group to defeat a Guren clone (the others could only fend them off) using Eight Trigrams Thirty Two Palm.

* Held her own very well against Pain's Deva Path, even managing to land a blow on him.

Yeah, I feel confident Hinata wins here.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're trying much too hard. Please don't troll this thread. It's a fight.

Sakura crushes Hinata. One punch.



She had the reflexes to dodge his spray of needles, and this was without Chiyo's help.

Add that to her brute strength, obvious outcome is obvious.

Also, lol at making filler allowed in some sad attempt to give Hinata the win.

..dude, Sakura took on one of the strongest Akatsuki members. Whether it was with help or not, Hinata couldn't have done shit against Sasori.

In fact....

EDIT:
Eh nevermind. i was gonna make a spite thread buw what's the point.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sakura crushes Hinata. One punch.

Which is more than she'll land.

Originally posted by NemeBro


Good, but not enough.

Originally posted by NemeBro


Except that, you know, skill and precision beat brute strength. Hinata can beat a foe just as effectively (or more) with a fraction of the effort.

Originally posted by NemeBro


Seriously, what is it with people and this word "filler"?

"Filler" makes the anime better because you have so many great stories that the manga doesn't.

I don't even bother with the manga. What's the point when the anime has everything it does and more? It makes more sense to consider anime the canon version.

The manga is like paying full price and only getting a tenth of what you paid for. It's a complete waste.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
..dude, Sakura took on one of the strongest Akatsuki members. Whether it was with help or not, Hinata couldn't have done shit against Sasori.

And Sakura couldn't have done any better without help.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
..Eh nevermind. i was gonna make a spite thread buw what's the point.

There is no point. Life's too short to waste on spite. Good for you for not doing it. I applaud that.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Which is more than she'll land.



Good, but not enough.



Except that, you know, skill and precision beat brute strength. Hinata can beat a foe just as effectively (or more) with a fraction of the effort.



Seriously, what is it with people and this word "filler"?

"Filler" makes the anime better because you have so many great stories that the manga doesn't.

I don't even bother with the manga. What's the point when the anime has everything it does and more? It makes more sense to consider anime the canon version.

The manga is like paying full price and only getting a tenth of what you paid for. It's a complete waste. 1. Based on your deluded fantasies, certainly not on showings.

2. Circular logic works because it does, amirite!?

3. Except she doesn't. Sakura has the speed to hit Hinata once, and that is all she needs.

4. Well it may have something to do with the fact that the manga was created by Kishimoto and the anime was... Not.

Makes more sense? What your opinion of canon is and what is actually canon are two totally different things, Kishimoto never gave Hinata her awesome lazee beams or whatever the hell that move is, so she in canon does not have it unless Kishimoto decides he liked the idea and writes it in.

The manga also does not have incredibly crappy random arcs that do not add anything like filler does. Most filler sucks.

Sakura take this.....unfortunately.

In Hinata's defense, how come she can't stop the chakra flow in Sakura's fist or arm with her technique. To better explain this, couldn't Hinata block one of Sakura's blow by disabling the chakra flow on contact? Then again, Sakura's whole fighting style is based on avoiding attacks.

I'm sorry! I just don't want to actually acknowledge competence in that pink-haired fail.weep

Well it is more a question of "Will Hinata be knocked out after Sakura punches her or just dead?"

That is the only thing that can really be discussed.

Well Hinata did survive getting smacked into the ground by Pein....although I really don'y think he had to try to do that. I was hoping that Hinata could at least prevent the blow from being at full force. Then again that's just wishful thinking on my part.

Does Sakura really have to win? Its not like I'm a hardcore fan of Hinata but I really don't like the concept of Sakura t all; this stems from me not liking Tsunade.

Hinata is one of my favorite characters, and probably my favorite anime girl, but I hold onto no delusion that she has a chance in this fight.

*sigh*

You already have one thread like this but I guess you realized without filler, Hinata is as good as dead. Not that she really amounts to much anyway. Sakura wins this by stabbing Hinata once and just letting poison do her dirty work. All the while dodging her opponent, LIKE SHE WAS TRAINED TO DO.

Oh yeah and you just insinuated Hinata could so much as even be in the same room as Sasori, single handily the funniest and most wrong thing ever.

Thread makes me lol.

Anyway,

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/sakura_movie3.gif

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/thsakura1.gif

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/ththl_22b476141b6fcc0f96835e86fcade.gif


Sakura wins.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
*sigh*

You already have one thread like this but I guess you realized without filler, Hinata is as good as dead.Cool story bro. Yeah no. Anime feats only bro. She hasn't learned Poison yet in the anime yet. Not that it will help, Hinata can and will dodge every attack until Sakura finds her chakra network shut down.

Since Sakura needed 90% of the help it's not like she dodged every puppet by herself and would have been dead by the first barrage of needles without Chiyo. Get serious, if Sakura can puppets so can Hinata because she dodge more manuverable opponents in the anime.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Thread makes me lol.

Anyway,

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/sakura_movie3.gif

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/thsakura1.gif

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/ththl_22b476141b6fcc0f96835e86fcade.gif


Sakura wins.
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Hinata wins. Flawless victory.

Originally posted by killermover
Cool story bro. Yeah no. Anime feats only bro. She hasn't learned Poison yet in the anime yet.

Hahaha. Amusing that you have to gimp the fight for the sake of your character.

Very telling... lolz.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Hahaha. Amusing that you have to gimp the fight for the sake of your character.

Very telling... lolz. It's not gimping, or maybe you fail to read the opening post.

Nah.

Originally posted by killermover

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8417/hyuugacombo.gif

http://i42.tinypic.com/2euo7eq.gif
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Hinata wins. Flawless victory.

You said it perfectly.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Nah. O rly?

sakura...

Originally posted by killermover
O rly?

You're learning.

Originally posted by killermover

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8417/hyuugacombo.gif

http://i42.tinypic.com/2euo7eq.gif
http://i41.tinypic.com/2h2mhao.gif
http://i40.tinypic.com/16hssqh.gif

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Hinata wins. Flawless victory.

None of that is as impressive as what Blax posted.

Hinata's are more sincere! dur

Originally posted by Nephthys
None of that is as impressive as what Blax posted. You serious? I'm pretty sure one shotting the most powerful pain body and dodging an elastic ninja is better than Sakura smash slow ass puppets and a transvestite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJQ7KsEkkIk

cut to 2:13

Sakura has nothing on this.

Originally posted by killermover
You serious? I'm pretty sure one shotting the most powerful pain body and dodging an elastic ninja is better than Sakura smash slow ass puppets and a transvestite.

If by one-shotting you mean getting one glancing hit in when he was distracted and who had hitherto been clearly toying with her then yeah, she's really uber.

And liek OMG an ELASTIC NINja! This liek changes everything!!!!!!

No. Sasori>>>>>>>>> random ****in Luffy rip-off.



Only becuase you can't have something on nothing.

Originally posted by killermover
It's still a feat,

Just not a very good one.



No, she hit him when he had a spaz attack and it barely fazed him.




Absolutely incorrect. If it had been Sakura or Tsunade they would have at least broke his jaw or blasted him back. Why the hell was she even attacking his head. She specialises in blocking chakra points. Ergo she's thick.



And yet when I compared the two scenes (thanks for posting those gifs btw), Sakuras movements where much more complex and impresive, even by my untrained eye.




Except Sakura actually beat Sasori.



Stationary?






It barely fazed a bug. Yeah, Sakura's got nothin' on that shit.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Just not a very good oneIt's the best one because it was an attack that Hinata actually peformed with her own power and not luck.



She hit him fair and square, Nagato exerted himself trying to fight Hinata and he payed for it.




Um, Pain is technically dead already and Shinra Tesei helps his durabilty alot, Hinata genuninely hit him with a attack that would shit down a normal ninja's chakra system so her feat is more special. .Because she knows Pain is a corpse not a real person.



Hinata doesn't need to be as flashy and wild, she's an expert taijutsu user and a graceful person the feat I showed with Neji proves her "natural agilty and gracefulness" with Jyuuken. Sakura's acrobatics are to erractic and generic which is pretty much less impressive compared to Hinata who's agile gracefulness can evade a rubber/elastic man with the same skills.




Sasori beat himself or Chiyo defeated him and Sasori killed himself, Sakrua didn't contribute shit to his death.



Every puppet was halted by Chiyo so Sakura to break them.






Maybe you should look at it again, Suzumebaci summons got pwned by a genin Hyuuga with a hax defense. And Hinata hit every bee meaning her chakra strikes are accurate and flawless.

Sakura is noting hiting her without that Shield cutting her entire network to shreds. Hell Sakura's taijutsu would fail natural against Hinata, she would seal every tenkensu in Sakura's body No offense would do her any good and she has no way of getting out of Hinata's range if she gets close.

Originally posted by killermover
Anime feats only bro. She hasn't learned Poison yet in the anime yet. Not that it will help, Hinata can and will dodge every attack until Sakura finds her chakra network shut down.

No. I'm not talking to you again. Realize what the hell you just said. She hasn't learned poison yet? WTF? So I suppose Tsunade taught her before she went to look for Sasuke? Oh wait, wasn't she kinda knocked the shit out? If you want to say Sakura hasn't used poison in the anime, that's okay I suppose. Still limiting a character solely because you can't accept the fact that even some Hinata fans agree that she gets beat. Unbelievable how biased you are. It really is. Go ahead and think badly of me if you want, but I have better things to do than troll a fanboy(and she's not even your favorite?) for everything he is worth.

Also lol at Hinata hitting Sakura. Sakura is faster via databook saying she is.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
No. I'm not talking to you again. Realize what the hell you just said. She hasn't learned poison yet? WTF? So I suppose Tsunade taught her before she went to look for Sasuke? Oh wait, wasn't she kinda knocked the shit out? If you want to say Sakura hasn't used poison in the anime, that's okay I suppose. Still limiting a character solely because you can't accept the fact that even some Hinata fans agree that she gets beat. Unbelievable how biased you are. It really is. Go ahead and think badly of me if you want, but I have better things to do than troll a fanboy(and she's not even your favorite?) for everything he is worth.Anime Feats are crediblle if they are shown in the anime. Nuff said. Like I'm saying. I'm saying from the anime cmpared to the manga Sakura hasn't displayed he abilty to utilize poison yet because the anime hasn't gotten to that point yet. I would use the same logic for Hinata in using her when before she didn't know Juhi Sosiken.

Like the sharingan, Hinata can see Sakura's attacks and use her Taijutsu to close the speed and strength difference between her and Sakura. It's like Neji and Lee said, speed and power is useless against the Gentle Fist due to it's insight and perfect chakra control abilites.

Oh and no matter what Sakura does, it's parried by her Protection of 8 trigrams or her Juho Sosiken.

Byakugan doesn't see movements like the sharingan does.

lol.

Yes, narutopedia ftw. No where does it mention that it grants the user the near precognitive ability to see an opponent's movements almost before they do it, which is what the Sharingan does. A sharingan user can anticipate where and how an opponent's punch will land almost before they even throw it. Someone who is moving so fast that they're too fast for the human eye to track, can be perceived by someone with a sharingan. The Byakugan doesn't do that . It allows people to see chakra systems, through objects, and to great distances. It doesn't allow them any sort of advanced precognitive skills.

Hence, it doesn't help against Taijutsu.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Yes, narutopedia ftw. No where does it mention that it grants the user the near precognitive ability to see an opponent's movements almost before they do it, which is what the Sharingan does. A sharingan user can anticipate where and how an opponent's punch will land almost before they even throw it. Someone who is moving so fast that they're too fast for the human eye to track, can be perceived by someone with a sharingan. The Byakugan doesn't do that . It allows people to see chakra systems, through objects, and to great distances. It doesn't allow them any sort of advanced precognitive skills.

Hence, it doesn't help against Taijutsu. I never said Hinata had predtictive moves to read, I say she had insight and knowledge of Sakura's movements thanks to Byukgans range of 360 degrees.

Sakura has no incrdible speed feat reguardless so her attacks won't work on Hinata's Jyuuken style.

Sakura attacks straight forwardly and has little taijutsu skill, hence forth Hinata's taijutsu being greater and more advance thanks to her Hyuuga bloodline.

Sakura's smash punch would be destroyed since Hinata can disable her attack by putting chakra into with the Gentle Fist.

Closing her tenkensu would be done the second Sakura tried to charge Hinata with a fist, which the Byukugan will find a counter in her network for Hinata to counter with and shut down her attack. It takes one touch.

I'm not even sure this is a fair fight considering Hinata knows the Protection of six trigrams move which automatically makes her immune to all offesive attacks Sakrua throws at her.

So yeah.

Originally posted by killermover
It's the best one because it was an attack that Hinata actually peformed with her own power and not luck.

Apparantly a glancing blow that caused no damage and was only got becuase her opponent started coughing up blood is 'the best' kind of blow. Well whatta you know. It only hit becuase of her opponents weakness, not her strength.




Fair and square does not mean your opponent spazes out, stands still and lets you hit him. Again, not her strength, his weakness.




Pain still has chakra flowing through him, or he wouldn't be able to do shit. Being dead doesn't mean that he can pull chakra out of thin air. It comes from the rods and presumably flows through his body fom there. Heck, why didn't she just go for the rods, she can see teh chakra going into them right?





Unless expert taijutsu user means 'noticably slower and less skilled', then I strongly disagree. All I've seen from Hinata in what you posted are some crappy punches and generic boxing blocks. Sakura is at the least on that level, highly likely higher.






She contributed alittle more than shit. Maybe you should read that fight again. Heck, I just read it and it was far and away more badass than anything Hinata's ever done (and more badass than most of the stuff Sasukes done). Sakura's a beast in that fight. She did stuff that flabbergasted Chiyo and Sasori and she's only effing 15.






I don't think so. Not in the manga I read. And not in what Blax posted.





I don't watch filler, or the anime for that matter. thats teh first time I've seen her wierd cutting technique. Meh, its ok, but Sakura could easily break through. And it doesn't mean jack, she just swung her arms in a fast helicopter. I used to do that when I was 5.




Since when did that attack cut off chakra points. Oh wait, it doesn't. Nice try though.

Also, Byakugan doesn't let her see Sakuras attacks anymore than my eyes would. Nice try again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Apparantly a glancing blow that caused no damage

Except, you know, stunning him for a few seconds.

Originally posted by Nephthys
and was only got becuase her opponent started coughing up blood is 'the best' kind of blow. Well whatta you know. It only hit becuase of her opponents weakness, not her strength.

Fair and square does not mean your opponent spazes out, stands still and lets you hit him. Again, not her strength, his weakness.

Part of combat is exploiting fleeting moments of opportunity. Nagato's coughing caused the Pain body to hesitate for a split second, providing a momentary opening that she capitalised on.

So yes, her strength.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't watch filler, or the anime for that matter.

Why not? The anime is amazing. It's 100 times better than the manga because of "filler." As I said the manga is like paying full price and only getting a tenth of what you paid for.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And it doesn't mean jack, she just swung her arms in a fast helicopter. I used to do that when I was 5.

You do realise, don't you, that her "arm swinging" was fast and precise enough to slice bees in half? Plus create a wall of energy that not only KO'ed a giant bee, but sent it flying back with enough force to KO three people.

I highly doubt you did that at age 5.

Seriously, do you actually have a clue what you're talking about?

Holy shit, she can hit BUGS!?

She has all the reflexes of Barack Obama then.

Since both are melee fighters, Hinata's only chance of winning is by sneaking up on Sakura...

that said, in a face to face battle, Sakura one shots Hinata...

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Except, you know, stunning him for a few seconds.

That might have have had something to do with him coughing up his guts at the same time. Either way, no visible damage was done.





100% incorrect. If Superman had a brain fart and tripped up allowing you to hit him it would be becuase he had a brain fat and tripped, not becuase your 'haxxed skillzz' allowed you to hit a light-speed fighter. Pain had been toying with her previously, her hitting him was absolutely not an indication of skill or speed but his weakness.





Becuase 90% of filler is utter shit, has nothing to do with the story, is created by people other than the creator so they don't know the characters or plot, it has a lesser budget than regular stuff, the story's made up as they go rather than planned by a professional manga author..... Need I go on?





It would have been pretty hard to miss them to tell the truth, the way she was swinging, and it took way too long to get them all if she actually was aiming.

Plus:






Big. Whoop

Plus this



No. In fact, I've never even heard of Naruto.


..... Who are you again? Where am I? What's lolicon? Wah?

Nepthys arguements are lacking.

Hinata can forces back any concussive taijutsu attack by default because her POSP will devestate Sakura's chakra control and main chakra pressure by cutting it up.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What's lolicon? Wah?


I am so glad I dropped by this thread.

http://www.zmelifetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/lies.jpg



OMG, Hinata has Naruto as her drive! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!

Why is it I'm getting the impression that all of the Hinata supporters here believe that Sakura is a dumb shit who will just immediately charge in, battle cry and all? Because I think she is actually smarter than Hinata....and faster...and stronger....and has more stamina....can heal injuries caused by Hinata's lasers....kill her in one punch....dodge all her attacks...I don't know, can I stop now?

Originally posted by killermover
Are you just gonna flamebait or present actual evidence for your rebutalls.

You really have NO basis on saying this considering that you dropped the discussion with him entirely via ad hominem in favor of spouting more declarative statements out of your ass.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Why is it I'm getting the impression that all of the Hinata supporters here believe that Sakura is a dumb shit who will just immediately charge in, battle cry and all?

Because Hinatards are like that.
The only way Hinata is beating Sakura is if this is Part 2 Hinata, and Part 1 Sakura.

Granted, any half-assed competent ninja can beat Part 1 Sakura.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Because Hinatards are like that.
The only way Hinata is beating Sakura is if this is Part 2 Hinata, and Part 1 Sakura.

Granted, any half-assed competent ninja can beat Part 1 Sakura.

Part 1 Ino?

I would actually wager part 1 Hinata would beat part 1 Sakura.

Part 1 Sakura sucked ass.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Part 1 Ino?


Part 1 Ino should have won that battle.
Naruto interefered.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That might have have had something to do with him coughing up his guts at the same time. Either way, no visible damage was done.

Do not know how powerful that guy is? Just hitting him and staggering him is a feat, let alone forcing him to dodge and give ground.


Originally posted by Nephthys
100% incorrect. If Superman had a brain fart and tripped up allowing you to hit him it would be becuase he had a brain fat and tripped, not becuase your 'haxxed skillzz' allowed you to hit a light-speed fighter. Pain had been toying with her previously, her hitting him was absolutely not an indication of skill or speed but his weakness.

100% correct. He didn't trip. He was distracted for a split-second and she took advantage of the opening that was provided.

Are you saying that if you were fighting a far more powerful opponent and there was an opening to hit them when they were distracted you'd just ignore it? That's what you're saying?

Part of being a good fighter is capitalising on split-second opportunities and moments of weakness like that.


Originally posted by Nephthys
Becuase 90% of filler is utter shit,

Doubtful, but even if it was, that still leaves 10% that's ace. Quality over quantity.

Search for the Bikochu arc - Great!

Bounty Hunter arc - Great!

Treasure Hunt arc - Great!

Land of Vegetables arc - Brilliant!

Cursed Haunted Castle arc - Great!

Land of Waves arc - Great!

Three-Tailed Beast arc - Brilliant!

Originally posted by Nephthys
has nothing to do with the story,

I really don't care about that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
is created by people other than the creator so they don't know the characters or plot,

Sure, because the 'creator' is always infallible. Take for example, George Lucas. The vast majority of Star Wars EU is way better than the movies.

Plus the Naruto creator has admitted his faults (like not knowing how to write strong female characters). I'd say the anime writers (who can and do write strong female characters and give them more focus) know them a lot better. At the very least the material they produce is better.

Originally posted by Nephthys
it has a lesser budget than regular stuff,

Budget doesn't determine quality.

Originally posted by Nephthys
the story's made up as they go rather than planned by a professional manga author.....

And yet it's still better than the stuff written by said "professional manga author" who by his own admission can't write strong females. That alone makes it easy for me to prefer other writers who give the women a bigger part.

(To be fair I realise that without said author we wouldn't have the anime in the first place, but I'm not going to act like that automatically makes him better than any other writer).

Originally posted by Nephthys
Need I go on?.

Yes. So far you haven't provided a single reason not to watch the anime.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It would have been pretty hard to miss them to tell the truth, the way she was swinging, and it took way too long to get them all if she actually was aiming.

Plus:






Big. Whoop

Plus this
.

So you're saying that Shippuden Sakura is equal to season 1 Hinata (who has improved greatly by Shippuden).

I agree.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No. In fact, I've never even heard of Naruto.

Now that makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I would actually wager part 1 Hinata would beat part 1 Sakura.

Part 1 Sakura sucked ass.

Thank you.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
The vast majority of Star Wars EU is way better than the movies. What?

****ing what?
******************************** WHAT!?

NO.

It's chilled Monkey.

I wonder why he listed the Land of Waves Arc with all the other filler arcs? And how in the world he can justify some of them actually being better than it? Unless....yeah, all the filler arcs have Hinata in them. Big surprise there.yawn

Why is this debate still going on? I thought people would at least get somewhat annoyed that they have to give Sakura credit where its due. Personally I want to make some baseless claims to give Hinata the edge just because Sakura suck that much.

Maybe Neji vs Sakura would have been a fairer fight. idk. However once again in Hinata's defense, Sakura's super-strength isn't exactly that but more of smashing the hell out of anything her blows land on. I'm not sure if that really helps any in Hinata's case but it might be something to prevent her from getting oneshotted right?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Why is this debate still going on? I thought people would at least get somewhat annoyed that they have to give Sakura credit where its due. Personally I want to make some baseless claims to give Hinata the edge just because Sakura suck that much.

Maybe Neji vs Sakura would have been a fairer fight. idk. However once again in Hinata's defense, Sakura's super-strength isn't exactly that but more of smashing the hell out of anything her blows land on. I'm not sure if that really helps any in Hinata's case but it might be something to prevent her from getting oneshotted right?

I like Sakura more than Hinata. And I want to see how much Hinata defenders can make me lol.

Neji would more than likely kill Sakura.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Why is this debate still going on? I thought people would at least get somewhat annoyed that they have to give Sakura credit where its due. Personally I want to make some baseless claims to give Hinata the edge just because Sakura suck that much.

Maybe Neji vs Sakura would have been a fairer fight. idk. However once again in Hinata's defense, Sakura's super-strength isn't exactly that but more of smashing the hell out of anything her blows land on. I'm not sure if that really helps any in Hinata's case but it might be something to prevent her from getting oneshotted right?

Neji vs. Sakura is as one-sided for Neji as Sakura vs. Hinata is for Sakura. It would not be a fair fight.

Its not really unfair. As long as PIS is on I'm sure Sakura will be just fine. I wonder how a fight between her and Temari would turn out due to the fact that she is the only non-adult kunochi that wouldn't get smashed in by Sakura.

Temari would probably win, her abilities counter Sakura's nicely.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Its not really unfair. As long as PIS is on I'm sure Sakura will be just fine. I wonder how a fight between her and Temari would turn out due to the fact that she is the only non-adult kunochi that wouldn't get smashed in by Sakura.

Temari has the advantage of fighting at a distance and being very smart. If Sakura got one good hit on her, then she'd probably fall. That's actually a big if though consider how smart Temari is. And her summon cuts Sakura in half so yeah. Temari shouldn't have too much trouble.

Temari= strongest kuonichi by feats.

Nemebro can suck my ass. ^___^

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Temari= strongest kuonichi by feats.

Nemebro can suck my ass. ^___^ Because she beat someone who needed the aid of three others while they all had their Cursed Seals unlocked to beat two tired Tokubetsu Jounin?

Lol.

And that absolutely trumps the feats of all the other kuonichi in the series.

qed nigga.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And that absolutely trumps the feats of all the other kuonichi in the series.

qed nigga.

Except for Sakura's feat of beating Sasori. 313

Temari would annihilate Sasori. 131

Though seriously, now that I think about it, she's better equipped from an ability standpoint then anyone else in the series aside from, I guess, Itachi and Pein. Any good AOE attacks would do Sasori in... and she's got the second largest AOE attack in the series to my recollection.

Except, you know, Sasori could kill her with a single spray of needles.

She could deflect the first few, but not the continuous spray.

Also pretty much any friggin host has better AOE attacks than Temari.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Temari would annihilate Sasori. 131

Though seriously, now that I think about it, she's better equipped from an ability standpoint then anyone else in the series aside from, I guess, Itachi and Pein. Any good AOE attacks would do Sasori in... and she's got the second largest AOE attack in the series to my recollection.

With her summon, she might fair alright. Her normal attacks are nothing special though. And Sasori could very likely kill her before she could get said summon out.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Except, you know, Sasori could kill her with a single spray of needles.


She could deflect the first few, but not the continuous spray.

D'aw, double wrong! First off:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/12/

"That thing can deflect the sound and still cause physical damage. She can attack and defend in one move." Aaaahhhhhahahahahaa.

Poor Sasori would get ass raped when her wind deflects all of the needles being shot at her while it simultaneously travels forward and hits him, annihilating his little shell. And even if it didn't (which it would),

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/107/17/

What's that? The steel fan is resistant to puny thrown objects? Gahahahaha.

qq gg Sasori

gtfo. One volley from any of her wind attacks will **** up his wooden puppet body.



Manga scans as proof or gtfo kthx. Only one I can possibly think of is Naruto. Maybe.

Dunno why you always give me a hard time about this stuff. I win the Temari related discussions every time ya gayfish.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
D'aw, double wrong! First off:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/12/

"That thing can deflect the sound and still cause physical damage. She can attack and defend in one move." Aaaahhhhhahahahahaa.

Poor Sasori would get ass raped when her wind deflects all of the needles being shot at her while it simultaneously travels forward and hits him, annihilating his little shell. And even if it didn't (which it would),

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/107/17/

What's that? The steel fan is resistant to puny thrown objects? Gahahahaha.

qq gg Sasori

gtfo. One volley from any of her wind attacks will **** up his wooden puppet body.



Manga scans as proof or gtfo kthx. Only one I can possibly think of is Naruto. Maybe.

Dunno why you always give me a hard time about this stuff. I win the Temari related discussions every time ya gayfish. 1. Only Temari's normal attacks are not anything to write home about, even friggin Tayuya, someone who barely qualifies as being above a Genin, avoided her attack. How would Temari fare against Sasori's hundreds of puppets, the Kazekage in general?

All of his needles? You are a pretty deluded fanboy. Considering Sasori lets out a constant spray of needles, not one short burst.

Only Temari's fan does not cover the full size of her body, which it would need to, since Sasori's spray of needles was able to cover the area both Chiyo and Sakura were in.

Temari cannot even hit Sasori based on feats. Remember when Neji, in reflexes one of the fastest of the Genin at the time, was stopped from moving two feet and killing Hinata by having the Jounin that were many meters away easily keep him from moving forward? That is the difference between Genin and Jounin in speed, let alone an S Class like Sasori.

Also, what the **** will cutting Sasori up do? He can switch with any puppet of his at will and draw pieces of his destroyed body back together, if I recall right.

Not bringing scans, do not give enough of a shit to. Killer Bee destroyed a much larger area, Four Tailed Naruto destroyed a larger area, Shukaku Gaara destroyed a larger area (Actually...... Gaara in general is better in AOE than Temari, and by alot), Sasuke's Kirin was better than Temari's AOE, Deidara... Yeah. Pein is better than Temari's AOE. Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei ftw. Kisame's is arguably better, if you would count his water sphere of awesomeness. All I can recall at this particular moment.

All of them huh? Like how I crushed your pro Naruto speed argument like a week ago?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Only Temari's normal attacks are not anything to write home about, even friggin Tayuya, someone who barely qualifies as being above a Genin, avoided her attack.

Feel free to provide a scan showing Tayuya evade any of her attacks. I certainty hope you're not referring to page 12 of 213, considering nothing points to her evading anything, unless you think the flute just got lacerated by itself? Nice downplay attempt though.



And her wind is not a short burst but a continuous stream. If it would be nice if you actually read the scans I put up.

Tell me, what do you would happen if someone stood in front of a moving car and fired a continuous stream at it with their super soaker gun?



http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/108/09/

Ahahahahahahaaaaa.

No, no. You're right! She'd have to crouch down about an inch or two.

Ahahahahaaaaa.





Prove up, it's fallacious to assume that ALL ninja have similar speeds based upon their ranking, and hell if you want to go down that road, something I won't oblige you in, she's higher ranked then Sakura is, and her attacks were quick enough to hit Sasori.

Prove up. I want to see some uber puppet speed from him and his puppets.



Sasori's got resistance to bludgeoning damage. Sakura's punch knocked all his limbs off when she hit him in the gut but his heart capsule was unharmed. When the puppet's swords hit his chest capsule, they killed him. Cutting damage =\= bludgeoning damage.







Read.

Not answering now, it's late nucka.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Why is it I'm getting the impression that all of the Hinata supporters here believe that Sakura is a dumb shit who will just immediately charge in, battle cry and all? Because I think she is actually smarter than Hinata....and faster...and stronger....and has more stamina....can heal injuries caused by Hinata's lasers....kill her in one punch....dodge all her attacks...I don't know, can I stop now? It doesn't matter if Sakura's faster, stronger or smarter. She's not beating Hinata in CQC or nintaijutsu prowess. Hinata being a Hyuuga has a advantage of having the Byukugan, the Gentle Fist style and superior movement tracking scouting abilites that make Hinata to versitile for Sakura to engauge in melee combat.

Hinata closing tenkensu makes Sakura to loser, because once she's in range, Hinata is closing about all of her chakra networks ala Neji. Speed never matter to a Hyuuga, Hinata tagged ninja's faster than her and landed consecutive strikes that would put down a normal ninja and guess what, Sakura's a normal ninja.

Besides, Sakura has no combat feats other than Smash Punch, Bushin Feint and lol chakra techinique, Hinata is a pupil in taijutsu, how is a girl with generic taijutsu skills going to out do a martial artist with moderate mastery of her style?

It's like saying Kiba could defeat Lee in hand to hand combat. Utterly impossible.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Why is this debate still going on? I thought people would at least get somewhat annoyed that they have to give Sakura credit where its due. Personally I want to make some baseless claims to give Hinata the edge just because Sakura suck that much.

Maybe Neji vs Sakura would have been a fairer fight. idk. However once again in Hinata's defense, Sakura's super-strength isn't exactly that but more of smashing the hell out of anything her blows land on. I'm not sure if that really helps any in Hinata's case but it might be something to prevent her from getting oneshotted right? Your underestimating Hinata, check out the gifs I posted. It's that hard to believe that Hinata's that badass and gar. While Sakura exhuasting herself fliping and smashing shit, Hinata takes down things with a palm or a touch and the fights over.

Neji vs. Sakura would be massacre.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Not answering now, it's late nucka.

I accept your concession BOI! 131

Oh and I forgot, Hinata has a better durabilty feat than Sakura, she outlasted Pain about 4 times before she was uttery defeated. Pain used his strongest attack(Shinra Tensei) to stop Hinata by the way.

Sakura isn't one shotting anything that tough.

Shugohakke Rokujūyon Shō at Hinata's age currently, probably S rank because the jutsu owned a Boss Summon and every single bee in her field of vision.

Guess how stronger it will be now.

No. To everything.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
No. To everything. I'm sorry, I'm only going by whats shown in the anime.

Originally posted by killermover
It doesn't matter if Sakura's faster, stronger or smarter. She's not beating Hinata in CQC or nintaijutsu prowess. Hinata being a Hyuuga has a advantage of having the Byukugan, the Gentle Fist style and superior movement tracking scouting abilites that make Hinata to versitile for Sakura to engauge in melee combat.

Hinata closing tenkensu makes Sakura to loser, because once she's in range, Hinata is closing about all of her chakra networks ala Neji. Speed never matter to a Hyuuga, Hinata tagged ninja's faster than her and landed consecutive strikes that would put down a normal ninja and guess what, Sakura's a normal ninja.

Besides, Sakura has no combat feats other than Smash Punch, Bushin Feint and lol chakra techinique, Hinata is a pupil in taijutsu, how is a girl with generic taijutsu skills going to out do a martial artist with moderate mastery of her style?

It's like saying Kiba could defeat Lee in hand to hand combat. Utterly impossible.

Yes because the faster, stronger, and smarter opponent usually loses. Stop and consider the fact that Sakura knows all of the Byakugan's traits because she was asking about it during the fight between Neji and Hinata. She knows her opponents skills and she probably won't be that disadvantaged by it.

Hinata is slower than Sakura, does not have the analyzing ability of the sharingan, and Sakura punches her. The only thing that really makes a damn bit of difference to this scenario is her POTETSFP which might keep Sakura at a distance for like, a minute. Push come to show, Sakura out lasts her due to better stamina.

Kiba and Lee is a poor comparison. Lee and Neji would have been better. Also, if Narutopedia is correct, she has more moves than Hinata....And you really are being petty not allowing the manga feats past Pain. I just realized that Sakura could very easily just put Hinata to sleep like she did Kiba, Lee, Akamaru, and Sai.

Originally posted by killermover
I'm sorry, I'm only going by whats shown in the anime.


lol. I'm glad our relationship has transcended to the point where I can shut you down and you just go with the flow. Kind of like House and his subordinates.

the fanboyism in this thread makes me sad

oh blax...you silly goose

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Yes because the faster, stronger, and smarter opponent usually loses. Stop and consider the fact that Sakura knows all of the Byakugan's traits because she was asking about it during the fight between Neji and Hinata. She knows her opponents skills and she probably won't be that disadvantaged by it.

Hinata is slower than Sakura, does not have the analyzing ability of the sharingan, and Sakura punches her. The only thing that really makes a damn bit of difference to this scenario is her POTETSFP which might keep Sakura at a distance for like, a minute. Push come to show, Sakura out lasts her due to better stamina.

Kiba and Lee is a poor comparison. Lee and Neji would have been better. Also, if Narutopedia is correct, she has more moves than Hinata....And you really are being petty not allowing the manga feats past Pain. I just realized that Sakura could very easily just put Hinata to sleep like she did Kiba, Lee, Akamaru, and Sai. i debated this in the battledome and we broke down the fight to sakura landing 2 solo punches - she got kazekage puppet and one of the 100 puppet(w/out chiyo) while chiyo backed her up in one way or another (i think chiyo saved her 10-12 times during that fight).

the fact is, yes she has fire power, but she simply cant stand upto a beating and her evasion skills are questionable without chiyo, so that fight cant be used as a reference to actual ability as nothing is clear-cut.

as for sword, well its painful and she did collapse from it but it was never k.o blow.

And really Hinata has stronger feats. She with her cousin one shotted and performed high level Jyukken taijutsu on a Boss Summon the size of Gambunta. Sakura isn't going to outlast her blows no matter what you say.

Slower? speed makes no diffence if your taijutsu and reaction timing is above the norm(reason why Naruto can tango with Sasuke because his speed sucks but his fighting style with Kage Bushun makes him compensate his lack of speed), and Sakura's no agile quuen either.

Do you not recall at the beginning of the time split when it was Sakura and Naruto vs Kakashi?
Every punch was dodged.
Sasori? Shir almost died.
Pain? She beat a summon, not even a kick ass one like Gamabunta or some shit...just fodder.
Hell Kn0 naruto could hold back Orichimaru's snake (It's name was forgotten ever since it died like a ***** to sasuke).
Her beating a summon is nothing.
Sage mode naruto THROWS EM...like they're paper.
Sasuke uses summons as bomb shields.
He kicks them with ease
Sakura is nothing.
Hell Hinata surpassed her in term's of significance in actual fighting against pain.
Her little moment was the turning point in the damn entire arc.


Look basically anyone can dodge Sakura's punches, even a kid like Konoharmaru. Sakura is gonna have to trick Hinata if she wants to hit her, and that ain't possible because Hinata can see what Sakura's up to with her 360 vision.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
lol. I'm glad our relationship has transcended to the point where I can shut you down and you just go with the flow. Kind of like House and his subordinates. It's posts like this that make more idiots in the world and the morons leading the world into more dispair.

Originally posted by killermover
It's posts like this that make more idiots in the world and the morons leading the world into more dispair.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
Thank you for your enthusiams miss.

Originally posted by killermover
i debated this in the battledome and we broke down the fight to sakura landing 2 solo punches - she got kazekage puppet and one of the 100 puppet(w/out chiyo) while chiyo backed her up in one way or another (i think chiyo saved her 10-12 times during that fight).

the fact is, yes she has fire power, but she simply cant stand upto a beating and her evasion skills are questionable without chiyo, so that fight cant be used as a reference to actual ability as nothing is clear-cut.

as for sword, well its painful and she did collapse from it but it was never k.o blow.

And really Hinata has stronger feats. She with her cousin one shotted and performed high level Jyukken taijutsu on a Boss Summon the size of Gambunta. Sakura isn't going to outlast her blows no matter what you say.

Slower? speed makes no diffence if your taijutsu and reaction timing is above the norm(reason why Naruto can tango with Sasuke because his speed sucks but his fighting style with Kage Bushun makes him compensate his lack of speed), and Sakura's no agile quuen either.

Do you not recall at the beginning of the time split when it was Sakura and Naruto vs Kakashi?
Every punch was dodged.
Sasori? Shir almost died.
Pain? She beat a summon, not even a kick ass one like Gamabunta or some shit...just fodder.
Hell Kn0 naruto could hold back Orichimaru's snake (It's name was forgotten ever since it died like a ***** to sasuke).
Her beating a summon is nothing.
Sage mode naruto THROWS EM...like they're paper.
Sasuke uses summons as bomb shields.
He kicks them with ease
Sakura is nothing.
Hell Hinata surpassed her in term's of significance in actual fighting against pain.
Her little moment was the turning point in the damn entire arc.


Look basically anyone can dodge Sakura's punches, even a kid like Konoharmaru. Sakura is gonna have to trick Hinata if she wants to hit her, and that ain't possible because Hinata can see what Sakura's up to with her 360 vision.

Liar. When the 100 Puppets appeared, Sakura could not have been being controlled by Chiyo. So every puppet she took down was her own skills. Sakura also took an explosion to the face and then got up. Of course she can't take a hit. How is her evasion brought into question? She dodges Tsunade's attacks in flashbacks. And Chiyo comments how she isn't helping her. And excuse me, but you didn't just say the sword hit she took wasn't a fatal wound did you?

She didn't one shot that creature. Not only did she have help, they had to deal several blows to it. And Sakura is far more agile and quick than Hinata. You can try and argue otherwise, but she shows nothing that proves otherwise. Sakura was trained to dodge!

Kakashi>dirt>Hinata
Also, I love how Hinata can knock back a big bee and it is just so awesome. Sakura actually knocked back a summon without, you know, getting knocked on her ass first. And then fainting later. Hinata being slapped to the ground was the turning point in the arc? Sakura beating Sasori created the next arc. You say baseless things about Sakura without really backing them up. And yes, it is entirely impossible to trick the byakugan.

Originally posted by killermover
It's posts like this that make more idiots in the world and the morons leading the world into more dispair. Originally posted by killermover
It's posts like this that make more idiots in the world and the morons leading the world into more dispair.

131

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Do not know how powerful that guy is? Just hitting him and staggering him is a feat, let alone forcing him to dodge and give ground.

No. It really, really isn't. Its about as much a feat as Sasuke hitting Bee when he started writing down lyrics and let him. She only got close becuase he let her.




Which is him being distracted and letting her hit him. I guess Hinata has to hope Sakura gets sick and starts coughing up blood. then she actually has a shot at hitting her.



No. How the effing hell did you get that impression you flaming wally.



Not in forum debates.







http://media.photobucket.com/image/Yawn/cthulhu19887/yawn/yawn-1.png





No. How the effing hell did you get that impression you flaming wally.



Prove and quantify that statement.







I also have no concept of sarcasm apparantly




No. Sakura took one of these (at 2.10) right to the face- Clickity

For comparisions sake Heres what one of those did to Gaara. I trust that I don't have remind you just how hard Gaara's sand can be.

Sakura took zero damage.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Temari would annihilate Sasori. 131

Though seriously, now that I think about it, she's better equipped from an ability standpoint then anyone else in the series aside from, I guess, Itachi and Pein. Any good AOE attacks would do Sasori in... and she's got the second largest AOE attack in the series to my recollection.

Only if Sasori was as weak as her brother Kankuro. 313

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Only if Sasori was as weak as her brother Kankuro. 313

How dare you insult Sasori like that?!

Although Sakura was doing pretty handy by herself, she would have eventually got owned by Sasori had it not been for at least minor assistance from Chiyo.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
How dare you insult Sasori like that?!

Although Sakura was doing pretty handy by herself, she would have eventually got owned by Sasori had it not been for at least major assistance from Chiyo. Fixed for truth.

Don't underestimate the importance of the Taijutsu statistic, and do note that speed isn't everything. The idea is that speed governs instantaneous speed and maneuverability, but a good grasp of taijutsu can be used just the same to respond to attacks by either dodging or blocking them. If this wasn't so, Sarutobi with his 5 in Taijutsu and and his measly 3 in speed would have been totally blitzed by Orochimaru and the two Hokages.

Sakura's strength and speed are greater than Hinatas, but her so called super-strength is faux; it is the product of perfectly controlled chakra released at the instant of contact, and is focused in the attacking limb. Taijutsu - and especially Jyuuken - contains a large amount of techniques to block or divert attacks with a small amount of physical power. All that Hinata needs to do is to stay away from the fist. And then there is the ability to manipulate the opponent's chakra network. A single jab at each of Sakura's arms and she has her super strength no longer.

You're so silly.

Your just sad because Hinata's is an walking chakra nullifier and Sakura's weak ass is chakra bases shinobi that easy to shut down due to Hyuuga's specialities of shutting down chakra.

Originally posted by killermover
Your just sad because Hinata's is an walking chakra nullifier and Sakura's weak ass is chakra bases shinobi that easy to shut down due to Hyuuga's specialities of shutting down chakra.

Stupid too. I don't care about that stuff even if it is utter lies and slanted truths.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Temari= strongest kuonichi by feats.

Nemebro can suck my ass. ^___^

Naruto's Mom >

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Naruto's Mom >

thumbsup

NO

NOOOOOOOOOOO
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I just typed up a HUGE ****ING POST replying to blax and when I was nealryt ****ING done I hit the ****ing user control panel.

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Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Naruto's Mom >

Temari's the strongest non-adult kunochi!(unless you count Yugito...I'm not sure)

Kushina would own the female cast though.

Temari is an adult though =l

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Also, I'm sort of laughing at how it sounded like you thought Hinata was as fast as Sasuke. Or that you made a comparison between the two of them.

Sweet heavens, did killermover actually suggest that Hinata was as fast as Sasuke? If that's true, I'll stop taking him with any sort of seriousness. Pt 2 Hinata isn't even as fast as Chuunin exam arc Sasuke.

It's like killermover saying Kakashi is as fast as the Raikage.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sweet heavens, did killermover actually suggest that Hinata was as fast as Sasuke? If that's true, I'll stop taking him with any sort of seriousness. Hinata isn't even as fast as Chuunin exam arc Sasuke.

It's like killermover saying Kakashi is as fast as the Raikage.

I don't know what he meant. He said Sakura was the only one surprised by Sasuke's speed when they met in Shippuden and somehow turned that into Hinata's speed would be too much for her cause she doesn't deal with speed well. Or to be honest, I'm not sure what he suggested actually, his points are so nonsensical.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I don't know what he meant. He said Sakura was the only one surprised by Sasuke's speed when they met in Shippuden and somehow turned that into Hinata's speed would be too much for her cause she doesn't deal with speed well. Or to be honest, I'm not sure what he suggested actually, his points are so nonsensical.

Yeah, he stated that Sakura was surprised by Sasuke's speed, even though Naruto was surprised & Sai had been trained to be emotionless. Not to mention, only Yamato seemed to be able to somewhat see Sasuke move & he had a sweat drop on his cheek, which suggests surprise and/or slight fear.

Clearly Sakura would be surprised by extreme speed, after all, I mean, Sasori's puppets were moving slower than tortoises, and Hinata is liek the fastest Hyuuga evar!
Fact is, I don't think Hinata is that fast anyway. She hasn't demonstrated Part 1 Lee level speed.

Yeah, he just mentions something about how Sasuke and Hinata are alike when it comes to testing jutsu.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, he stated that Sakura was surprised by Sasuke's speed, even though Naruto was surprised & Sai had been trained to be emotionless. Not to mention, only Yamato seemed to be able to somewhat see Sasuke move & he had a sweat drop on his cheek, which suggests surprise and/or slight fear.

Clearly Sakura would be surprised by extreme speed, after all, I mean, Sasori's puppets were moving slower than tortoises, and Hinata is liek the fastest Hyuuga evar!
Fact is, I don't think Hinata is that fast anyway. She hasn't demonstrated Part 1 Lee level speed.

Yeah, he just mentions something about how Sasuke and Hinata are alike when it comes to testing jutsu.

Hinata fought a blue Rubber band man, which obviously means she has ahmazing speed!

Funny, you'd figure Naruto would be a better example. His RS being used in battle for the first time to defend against Akatsuki and her Protection of the 8 trigrams 64 palms being used to defend from bug ninja.

Originally posted by NemeBro
NO

NOOOOOOOOOOO
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!?

I just typed up a HUGE ****ING POST replying to blax and when I was nealryt ****ING done I hit the ****ing user control panel.

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I ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION NIGGA

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION NIGGA ****YOUSASORIWINS

KNO.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION NIGGA

I beat your argument though, just so joo know.

You posted? I hadn't noticed. Gahahahaaa

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Naruto's Mom >

Oh yeah, my eyes kind of auto-skimmed over it because of how unimportant it was.

'sides, Kushina just got gang raped by Madara and the Kyuubi. You know the doujins are being drawn as we speak.

But Kushina is > Temari, making your statement about Temari being best kunoichi factually false.

4chanfags aren't allowed to have opinions, FA. Go back to your corner nooooooooww.

no thx

Sakura obviously wins

whoever has the better taijutsu, wins. Basically, whoever get's hit first is going down. My bet would be on Sakura winning.

Originally posted by marwash22
whoever has the better taijutsu, wins. Basically, whoever get's hit first is going down. My bet would be on Sakura winning. Hinata has the better taijutsu. Her databook backs this up heavily. Hinata closes her tenketsu and wins the fight.

Funny how you support the databook when it supports your agenda.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/ushiolein/Sakura%20Gifs/thsakura1.gif http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8417/hyuugacombo.gif

Hinata's more flexible and agile.

Yes, because the manga is clearly the same in anime feats when it comes to Sakura's smashing those puppets like she did. In the anime only, because Hinata can do the same and basically see the attacks coming with her byakugan. It doesn't change the fact, Sakura dodging skills are inferior to Hinata's all seeing white eye and taijutsu prowess which gives the advantages Sakura couldn't. Like instant chakra canceling via tap and clear 360 analytical attack reading and chakra needing.

I mean't to say, Sakura's dodging abilites aren't perfect. Compared to Hinata's Sakura's are average, her doding skills are not infallable and Sakura times her doding more so than often, Hinata on the other hand needs is to activate Byukugan and she can dodge attacks by reading the movements of her opponents taijutsu with her byukugan range. Actually I back up alot of reasons why Sakura's speed doesn't matter against Hinata. You chose to ignore the rebuttals I made. If Hinata used a combination of Jyuuken with Juho Soshiken then Sakura will be killed or in a state in which he's basically half-dead.

There is no possible way for Sakura to block that attack, considering that Deva's attraction was one of the only possible ways, as it disabled it in a long-range. If Sakura touches Hinata, it's over. The attack is very powerful and would be a crucial decider.


Sakura won't be able to attack Hinata, considering that it Juho Soshiken spins Hinata which prevents her from being attacked in Taijutsu and possibly even any Ninjutsu strikes.You've also not given me a reason that Sakura can't dodge her attacks(even though Sakura's intelligence about the Hyuuga and training instinct to dodge attacks would certainly indicate that would be the thing she'd prioritize.)



He was mocking her inhuman abilites and her ability to make Chiyo look good in front of him. Sasori never acknowledge her in her skills accept her fascination in trying to find out where Orochimaru is. If she knows so much, why didn't she see Hinata fight then? And no, her little jyuuken pats in part 1 weren't a full gauge of her abilites, Sakura doesn't know what Hinata has as a Byukugan user, Sakura may have seen Hinata's latent abilites by Neji's prowess but her and Neji use the Gentle Fist differently, she probably doesn't know Hinata's a defensive fighter, has Juho Sosiken or Protection of the 8 trigrams. All that Hinata needs to do is to stay away from the fist, thats all Sakura has as a means of attack, Sakura's taijutsu sucks and is easily dwarfed when she's up against a byukugan user. And then there is the ability to manipulate the opponent's chakra network. A single jab at each of Sakura's arms and she has her super strength no longer. Her intellegence doesn't apply, Sakura has shown no battle tatics that give her taijutsu know how and especially on Hinata's unknown CQC style, just the abilty to cordinate strikes and dodge. As you can see, Hinata isn't Sasori and is a walking strategy plan, Hinata is purely a H2H combatant with expertise in taijutsu, Sakura knows Hinata is a Hyuuga with Byukugan training but she can't do anything Hinata won't foresee, her insight and probability knowledge equals Sakura's even if that won't mattter, intellegence won't matter because it never has against taijtusu fights and Hinata has the tools to take down Sakura and Sakura won't have the power to stop because her taijutsu is weak and Hinata's taijutsu cancels Sakura's speed and strength which are all chakra based attacks.

Since were talking about Anime, Neji and Hinata were able to put someone unconscious by touching their forehead with Jyuuken. What happens when Hinata used Jyuuken to increase the chakra flow to Sakura's brain or even heart? If it's the heart she'll have cardiac damage thus leading to a heart attack, depending where Hinata aims and how much chakra she withdraws. Sakura lasted long because CHiyo was holding her hand the duration of the fight and Sasori was arogant enough to not pull his best jutsu since the begining and toyed with them the entire fight up until that point, it wasn't Sakura did this or Sakura did that. It was made to make Sakura do something useful even though Sasori was PISed into making fun of her and underestimating her.

Due to the fact a Medical Ninja is not meant to be evasive of an opponents attack due to the importance of such a person within a Team due to their healing capibilities.

However, Hinata is an entirely different opponent. Within the battle against Sakura, Chiyo kept her alive for such a long period that she was able to eventually see her opponents movements. Shino displayed something similar in Part I, as it's not remarkable.

Sakura would have been killed by Sasori's Hiruko if Chiyo hadn't controlled her. As seen:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/266/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/266/05/

Plus, Sakura had been given preparation time with the Antidotes and was given much information about Sasori from Chiyo. Either way, Sasori was far more powerful than either Sakura and Chiyo. Why do you think Orochimaru had Kabuto accompany him whilst making an attempt to kill Sasori?


Sakura is outmatched, considering Hinata has Jyuuken, defence, ability to see chakra and release chakra, can sense all of Sakura's movements etc. She can not use her medical jutsu if all her chakra points are disabled, which is most likely. Sakura maybe smart but not on the level of Kidomaru or Itachi or even Tsunade. And he did it by attacking from long range in a process of trial and error. All she could do is attack close range and then hinata would have a field day with her.

She was able to dodge most of Neji's attacks, which were quicker and faster than Sakura's. Hinata reflexes are greater than Sakura's, considering if Sakura didn't have Chiyo she would have been killed by Sasori.

She dodged a faster ninja than one of Sasori's 100 puppets and the flexbilty of a rubber man.

She hit pain in the face and basically speed blitz him for a while so she could realease a rod from Naruto arms.


Actually, what tenten says mean " The byakugan can allows the user to SEE every attack from every angle" means byakugan helps the user to prevent ambush from enemy and prevent being hit by attack came from the back.

IMO, I think that Hinata would have done alot better, with the aid of the Byakugan. The ability to sense and see all movements within a radius of 50 metres, whilst being able to disable any chakra based substances with Jyuuken whilst being controlled by Chiyo. Especially Hakke Rokujuuyonshou against Sasori's Satetsu Shigure.

Hinata attempted to use Juuho Soushiken against Deva, however Deva would have obviously known of the Byakugan thus Hinata touching him with Jyuuken would have been extremely bad.

If it was not for Bansho Tenin then Deva would have possibly been taken out as you cannot fight with severe internal damage to your organs. Did you see how close Hinata was to Deva when she used Juuho Soushiken? That was extremely fast.
Kay I'm done.

Are.....are you using the manga to try and disprove Sakura smashing all those puppets?

Cause...you know...This

I only ask because if you are, you kinda lose all my interest in continuing said debate.

Hinata would not have been able to get paste Hiruko if she replaced Sakura in the fight against Sasori.

Seriously.

Well none of the other kunochi of the Konoha 12 would've been able to take it out either so its not that bad.

Hinata could've at least scratched it though right.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well none of the other kunochi of the Konoha 12 would've been able to take it out either so its not that bad.

Hinata could've at least scratched it though right.

Edit: Didn't read the kunochi part until I posted. I fail. But maybe Tenten could use a well placed explosive. But that's pushing it I know.

I'll point out Sakura has knock-out bombs and poison kunai now too.

Hinata might have a small edge in melee due to more taijutsu skill (somewhat countered by probably needing to hit more to win, and databook says Sakura's got the small speed edge. So it's not exactly a huge gap), but with additional threats I'd think the pink hair will win more than not.

Originally posted by Q99
I'll point out Sakura has knock-out bombs and poison kunai now too.

Hinata might have a small edge in melee due to more taijutsu skill (somewhat countered by probably needing to hit more to win, and databook says Sakura's got the small speed edge. So it's not exactly a huge gap), but with additional threats I'd think the pink hair will win more than not.

Sakura hasn't used them in the anime yet. So those weapons aren't counted. Yeah, its stupid.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Sakura hasn't used them in the anime yet. So those weapons aren't counted. Yeah, its stupid.

Ah yes, that does make it closer.

Hm, between Hinata having her super version of the rotation move and Sakura only having her taijutsu I think I'll support Hinata.

Originally posted by Q99
Ah yes, that does make it closer.

Hm, between Hinata having her super version of the rotation move and Sakura only having her taijutsu I think I'll support Hinata.

Well since you don't seem to be a huge fanboy, you might give the Sakura supporters an argument.

Sakura does have the speed and strength advantage, couple that with it being trained into her to dodge. Hinata does have superior taijutsu, but since gentle fist is superior to iron fist, that is expected. She has long range moves in the form of her laser move(don't feel like typing out the name) but the best feat they have is cutting through bugs, which isn't that impressive. She can make said laser move into a defense wall, and while it seems to take more time than Neji's move, it is nonetheless quite effective. All around I give the fight to Sakura because she is shown to be smart(as smart as Kidomaru according to the databook and he nearly killed Neji) and, more importantly, she is more confident in her abilities and more ruthless of a person. Hinata, determined sure, is still somewhat of a shy girl and is still rather uncertain of her skills.

look at all this anime shit.
what am i going to do with you guys?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which is him being distracted and letting her hit him. I guess Hinata has to hope Sakura gets sick and starts coughing up blood. then she actually has a shot at hitting her.

So now you're claiming Sakura is equal to Deva Pain?

You're really clutching at straws here.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No. How the effing hell did you get that impression you flaming wally.

Because you were criticising Hinata for hitting Deva Pain in a moment of distraction.


Originally posted by Nephthys
http://media.photobucket.com/image/Yawn/cthulhu19887/yawn/yawn-1.png

Don't know what this is, but I see you can't think of a single reply.





Originally posted by Nephthys
No. How the effing hell did you get that impression you flaming wally.

You posted a scan of Shippudan Sakura beating a summon. That's something Hinata could do pre-Shippudan.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Prove and quantify that statement.

Ever heard of common sense?

Originally posted by Nephthys
I also have no concept of sarcasm apparantly

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

Originally posted by drrylan
look at all this anime shit.
what am i going to do with you guys?


The anime is better. That's what we should be using.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
The anime is better. That's what we should be using.

I disagree with that, I like the pacing of the manga better. Plus, no filler (Mizuki the Tiger!)

The anime does a few parts better but overall I definitely give it to the manga.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
The anime is better. That's what we should be using.

No....the anime is misleading. Deva Path vs Naruto is proof enough of that. And filler is just pointless. Nothing gets accomplished that affects the main story.

Though the filler episode where they try to see what's under Kakashi's mask is the best episode of the anime ever.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
No....the anime is misleading. Deva Path vs Naruto is proof enough of that. And filler is just pointless. Nothing gets accomplished that affects the main story.

Though the filler episode where they try to see what's under Kakashi's mask is the best episode of the anime ever.

Nah. The filler is not pointless. It can sometimes be very entertaining and enjoyable.

Or really stupid.

Also, chilled monkey, you need to go away.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
The anime is better. That's what we should be using.

I say the games are better than the anime. Guess we should use the games then eh?

Some of the games are underrated.

Also, Sakura likely wins.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hinata would not have been able to get paste Hiruko if she replaced Sakura in the fight against Sasori.

Seriously. I'm back, and lol I like how you single out Hinata not standing a chance aginst Hiruko when Sakura needed to be controled in order for her to beat it. So by that logic, Hinata can be controled to slice up the puppet.

Hinata has the Byakugan, and quite frankly Sakura has never demonstrated anything that would allow her to penetrate Hinata's defenses to land a blow.
Hinata's byukuga grants the abilites to see all around her surroundings and locate and pinpoint chakra signatures that are even the faintest, she's granted professional gentle fist taijutsu training which makes her a already better close quarters combat fighter than Sakura. Her shield can repel anything which a chakra system and increase the effect of her attack by raising her chakra levels. lol Sakura.

Hinata outclasses her easily in Taijutsu. Her strength means nothing when Hinata can just use Juho Sosiken or Shukohakke. She can use his Jyukken taps and touches to keep her at bay, and then 64 palms to end it.

Hinata is just faster in taijutsu strikes, more skilled in CQC, more agile and has better dodging and reaction feats.

Sakura is smart but she's not as sharp as a pure martial artist and more adept to taijutsu or it's pratice, she's just brawler and a medical ninja, which doesn't account her deducing skills against Sasori who was merely a ninjutsu user and a puppeter who by the graces of Chiyo baa sama gave her all the information and basis of Sasori's skills and abilites. How much does Sakura do well without a large amount of information to grant her access to strategies? How much does she know about Hinata?

Problem is, this time she won`t have a far more experienced character calling the shots.

Hinata however is going see Sakura's moves and react according to her superior style.

Alot of people say Sakura wins, but they don't back up clear evidence I presented to them.

Sakura doesn't have an awnser to her defensive jutsu or her gentle fist. And it's not like Sakura is faster, her moves have been counters by freakin fodder in shippuden all the time.

Hinata wins this.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Or really stupid.

Also, chilled monkey, you need to go away.

Oh of course. How dare I state my opinions. How dare I have a mind of my own.

Yeah I need to go away because I stated my opinion.

(BTW yes, that is sarcasm. I dislike it but I'm willing to make exceptions).

And as I've said before "filler" is good. It provides more variety and enrichment (and while some stories are bad, others are AWESOME!). Why bother with the manga when the anime gives you everything it does and more?

Originally posted by killermover
I'm back, and lol I like how you single out Hinata not standing a chance aginst Hiruko when Sakura needed to be controled in order for her to beat it. So by that logic, Hinata can be controled to slice up the puppet.

I believe he said if Sakura was replaced by Hinata, she wouldn't have scratched him. Which is true. Chiyo used Sakura because she has massive strength. Hinata lacks that and would force Chiyo to use a better puppet earlier on in the fight.

Originally posted by killermover
Hinata has the Byakugan, and quite frankly Sakura has never demonstrated anything that would allow her to penetrate Hinata's defenses to land a blow.

Hinata's 1 defense move requires her to wave her arms around for about 10 seconds, meaning not only does she have to stay at a distance, she has to ensure Sakura won't attempt to attack her before she's ready. It's only worth a damn if used at long range, which is the only way she's going to have a shot at fighting Sakura.


Originally posted by killermover
Hinata's byukuga grants the abilites to see all around her surroundings and locate and pinpoint chakra signatures that are even the faintest, she's granted professional gentle fist taijutsu training which makes her a already better close quarters combat fighter than Sakura. Her shield can repel anything which a chakra system and increase the effect of her attack by raising her chakra levels.

She cannot use her defensive move at too close a range. She does not have the time or speed to pull it off before Sakura punches her in the Byakugan, turning her all seeing white eye into a very very black eye. If she wants to use her defensive move, she has to stay at range, contrary to her nature as a taijutsu specialist to stay at close range. Sakura is faster than her, so close range would be a disadvantage for Hinata. I know what the Byakugan can do.

Originally posted by killermover
lol Sakura.

The argument?

Originally posted by killermover
Hinata outclasses her easily in Taijutsu. Her strength means nothing when Hinata can just use Juho Sosiken or Shukohakke. She can use his Jyukken taps and touches to keep her at bay, and then 64 palms to end it.

She is not fast enough. Repeat: Not. Fast. Enough. Sakura dodged around 7 or more puppets on her own skills and that makes it unlikely that Hinata will hit her. Sakura knows what the Hyuuga can do. She was told in Part 1. She knows getting hit by Gentle Fist will probably hurt, so she'll dodge it. Which is what she was trained to do. You have not provided any REASON for me to believe otherwise. PROVE that she can't dodge Hinata and PROVE that she won't just break her ****ing jaw.

Originally posted by killermover
Hinata is just faster in taijutsu strikes, more skilled in CQC, more agile and has better dodging and reaction feats.

Why? Faster I can see in terms of striking, but that does not mean Sakura can't dodge her with ease. More skilled in CQC? Well I guess she doesn't need her defensive move. Except she will when Sakura breaks every bone in her body with a finger. Better dodging feats, which you base entirely on one fight with a rubber guy, who in the end injured Hinata if Narutopedia is correct. Sakura has dodged Kage level ninja attacks, which is laughably better than anything Hinata has done.

Originally posted by killermover
Sakura is smart but she's not as sharp as a pure martial artist and more adept to taijutsu or it's pratice, she's just brawler and a medical ninja, which doesn't account her deducing skills against Sasori who was merely a ninjutsu user and a puppeter who by the graces of Chiyo baa sama gave her all the information and basis of Sasori's skills and abilites. How much does Sakura do well without a large amount of information to grant her access to strategies? How much does she know about Hinata?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/270/10/

She shows that she was observing Sasori's fingers, which is how she was dodging his attacks. Hinata's laser move, if Shino's description is accurate, is actually two long chakra threads stretching from her palms to hit targets. Because she is fast, it looks as though she is firing lasers. After getting cut a few times, which she'll heal up with her medical techniques, Sakura would get the dynamics of it. Which is easier to keep track of: 10 small fingers, or 2 hands? She wouldn't be too concerned with that technique afterward, and she would focus on dodging the palms.

Originally posted by killermover
Problem is, this time she won`t have a far more experienced character calling the shots.

She won't need to have one. She was dodging Sasori's puppets on her own. Sasori>Hinata.

Originally posted by killermover
Hinata however is going see Sakura's moves and react according to her superior style.

As the Sasuke and Lee fought proved, it doesn't matter if you can see it if you can't react fast enough. Which, since Sakura is faster, she cannot. lol at her superior style that won't do any good against a superior opponent.

Originally posted by killermover
Alot of people say Sakura wins, but they don't back up clear evidence I presented to them.

Sakura will win because I say so. I'm providing the same level of evidence as you now.

Originally posted by killermover
Sakura doesn't have an awnser to her defensive jutsu or her gentle fist. And it's not like Sakura is faster, her moves have been counters by freakin fodder in shippuden all the time.

Hinata wins this.

Dodge the gentle fist, punch to the face. Nice enough answer to that. lol at the fodder comment, when Hinata gets injured by an opponent who likes to toy with the people he fights. As far as her defense is concerned, since it takes about 10 seconds to make said wall of chakra, Sakura likely gets hit by it the first time and realizes how it works. Explosive kunai to the chakra wall, Hinata is distracted, Sakura punches Hinata's boobies and makes her almost as flat as herself.