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http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/news/sman_batman_apoc

I posted this news in the other SUPERMAN/BATMAN thread

meh why not give it a thread.

thank god its kevin conroy this time

no matter i will buy

Summer Glau, yay.

(Hope I spelt her name right)

Can't wait for this, DC animated movies are great

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/105131-first-look-at-supermanbatman-apocalypse

Originally posted by -Pr-
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/105131-first-look-at-supermanbatman-apocalypse droolio

Originally posted by Galan007
droolio

Originally posted by -Pr-
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/105131-first-look-at-supermanbatman-apocalypse



i cannot wait to buy this

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just hope Andre Braugher does okay with Darkseid. Following Michael Ironside's portrayal will be no small task.

Originally posted by Galan007
I just hope Andre Braugher does okay with Darkseid. Following Michael Ironside's portrayal will be no small task.

true, but the audio samples heard during the video were encouraging to me.

kind of annoyed about the wonder woman choice though.

I didnt like DS's voice, Ironside was the best choice.

I have the actual graphic novel that this movie is based on and i hope its just as good.

I remember reading this not too long after I read Public Enemies. This is going to be worthy.

Great to see Daly and Conroy in this movie as well

Enjoyed the video. Eagerly await this as I though Public Enemies was awesome and I think this will surpass it.

Originally posted by majid86
Great to see Daly and Conroy in this movie as well
But I'm disappointed at the lack of Michael Ironside as Darkseid.

Originally posted by Galan007
I just hope Andre Braugher does okay with Darkseid. Following Michael Ironside's portrayal will be no small task.
I think you mean "impossible". uhuh

Wow, the artwork actually looks good. I've been waiting all my life to say that about a DC animated movie

This comes out the same day as Iron Man 2. Looks like I'll be making two purchases.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdzcwi_superman-batman-apocalypse-trailer_shortfilms

Looks nice.

I've always wondered why they won't attempt another tv series.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Wow, the artwork actually looks good. I've been waiting all my life to say that about a DC animated movie

That's cuz they tried to stay faithful to Michael Turner's work. Also his love of thongs, for some reason.

Just watched it.

Meh. It was ok. Couple of bright moments, but DC continues it's tradition of turning Superman in to everybody's punching bag.

It was boring, the comic was better and I didnt like DS voice. Ironside should have done it again.

I doubt Ironside would have made much of a difference. All they should have done, imo, is add a little base to his voice, and it would have sounded much better...

Superman TAS DS is still the best.

Saw it liked it.

I've come to appreciate the DC animated films more so than the Marvel ones recently, so I was expecting another Public Enemies, Green Lantern etc level of animation. But this one just blew.

The story was weak, Darkseid was meh and I hated that they turned Doomsday into cannon fodder.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've come to appreciate the DC animated films more so than the Marvel ones recently, so I was expecting another Public Enemies, Green Lantern etc level of animation. But this one just blew.

The story was weak, Darkseid was meh and I hated that they turned Doomsday into cannon fodder.

Doomsday was actually that way in the comic. They were imperfect clones (called "animates" that were a mere shadow of the actual being.

Though they didn't reference that in the movie.

The reasons for the animation being what it was is because it was based on the work of Michael Turner, the man who drew the original arc. His art can be an acquired taste... Though Darkseid's face seemed off at times.

It was by no means bad, it was just that both Crisis on two Earths and Under the Red Hood were the two of the best DCAU features, ever. By comparison, it wasn't that great, kinda average. I suppose at least it's a very faithful adaption of the comic, right down to the panels.

Also, the voice acting???? What the???? Granny Goodness, more like Tranny Goodness, AMIRIGHT?????? AMIRIGHT!!!!?????

disagreed about crisis.

also, the guy who did granny did her in the jlu series too.

Aside from Darkseid's voice, which I didn't like at all (not nearly evil/menacing enough), I thought all of the other voice selections were excellent. Where the movie itself is concerned, I thought it was quite good up until the end. I REALLY wanted to see things play out like they did in the comics, but that's not what happened at all. So I was kind of disappointed there.

Still a pretty good flick, though. I'd put it in my top 5 DC animated movies.

Originally posted by Galan007
Aside from Darkseid's voice, which I didn't like at all (not nearly evil/menacing enough), I thought all of the other voice selections were excellent. Where the movie itself is concerned, I thought it was quite good up until the end. I REALLY wanted to see things play out like they did in the comics, but that's not what happened at all. So I was kind of disappointed there.

Still a pretty good flick, though. I'd put it in my top 5 DC animated movies. I was very impressed with the animation (although superman's face was a bit inconsistent...some angles, he looked super badass...and others, he looked very girly)

I thought the fight sequences were some of the best I've ever seen in American animation...they almost rival anime fight sequences

there was almost never a dull moment

voice acting was good (DS was pretty good imo too)

one of the best comic animated movies

^ Don't get me wrong, the end battle was good, but I was expecting it to play out like it did in the comics (which imo is almost as badass as it gets):
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But it was completely different. Still enjoyable, just not what I expected.

good film
really good art/animation
everyone should check it out 8/10

How did you all see this when the release date is Sep 28?

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Don't get me wrong, the end battle was good, but I was expecting it to play out like it did in the comics (which imo is almost as badass as it gets):
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1953/45160012.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9284/73325870.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1020/54988297.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2059/52740108.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9739/95847106.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1121/31108140.jpg
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But it was completely different. Still enjoyable, just not what I expected.

Oh shit, I remember skimming through that comic. It was a way better ending than what we were giving.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
How did you all see this when the release date is Sep 28?

Torrent for me.

The "big fight" was the main reason i watched this movie. Sucked that they changed it, imo.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
How did you all see this when the release date is Sep 28?

We all have contacts at WB.

It was actually better than I expected. I've never been the biggest fan of those Darkseid Superman fights in the comics, I thought the movie fight was actually better than the comic one.

All in all I would say it ranks above Crisis on Infinite Earths and Public Enemies and rates below Under the Red Hood (which looks the best of the DCAU movies).

Also in terms of showing the strength levels of these superbeings it was the most spot on comic adaptation. You can feel the power/strength of Supes, Darkseid et al none of the other features or even series really demonstrated them this powerful.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Don't get me wrong, the end battle was good, but I was expecting it to play out like it did in the comics (which imo is almost as badass as it gets):
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1953/45160012.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9284/73325870.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1020/54988297.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2059/52740108.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9739/95847106.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1121/31108140.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2653/85434441.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4567/85306829.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9356/76970531.jpg
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But it was completely different. Still enjoyable, just not what I expected.

As a fan of both Supes and DS these fights prove that some authors just don't get what Kirby's intent was with this guy. No way should Supes be able to beat DS in a direct physical fight, it just shouldn't happen.

He should push DS hard because of his speed and skill in CQC but in the end, DS is the greater force. Even if it boils down to just a physical fight... DS has had millenia dominating foes in war (in all its forms).

He'd stack the deck against Supes, he'd never fight him unless he knew absolutely that he'd win. Authors don't seem to get this guy, in recent memory only Simonson, Bryne and Morrison get him, he's not been a warlord for millenia for nothing.

The movie was actually trying to do justice to this power difference while at the same time demonstrating how Supes can win, the S:TAS episode "Legacy" is their best fight, because it's pretty accurate.

The disparity between the two wasn't the problem (at least for me). It was the fact that Supergirl got more of a fight than Superman did.

Had the fight gone exactly the same way with Superman instead of Supergirl, I would have been perfectly happy with it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The disparity between the two wasn't the problem (at least for me). It was the fact that Supergirl got more of a fight than Superman did.

Had the fight gone exactly the same way with Superman instead of Supergirl, I would have been perfectly happy with it.

I get what you mean - she got more airtime with DS. That I didn't expect, but Supes put more of a dent in him so it balanced out for me.

I think the creators were giving Kara a bit more respect in this one, since she's always in Supes shadow in & out of universe. They probably figured that it would be the best way to cap off the finale, with her getting to steal the show a little.

Originally posted by Allankles
I get what you mean - she got more airtime with DS. That I didn't expect, but Supes put more of a dent in him so it balanced out for me.

I think the creators were giving Kara a bit more respect in this one, since she's always in Supes shadow in & out of universe. They probably figured that it would be the best way to cap off the finale, with her getting to steal the show a little.

That and a chick directed it.

Yeah, i said it...

What is Batman's screen-time like? Same as the book? Any great fights like in Public Enemies?

Originally posted by -Pr-
That and a chick directed it.

Yeah, i said it...

damn women always ruining shit.

no one cares about kara looking powerful. she's just super powered eye candy.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That and a chick directed it.

Yeah, i said it...

Originally posted by Darth Martin
What is Batman's screen-time like? Same as the book? Any great fights like in Public Enemies?

Batman has plenty screen time (as you might expect, it's called Superman/Batman afterall), but don't expect great fights from him, he is somewhat overmatched physically in the situations he finds himself in during this story.

There are better fights in this one than Public Enemies. Big Barda and Wonderwoman vs the Furies is a pretty good fight.

Also Superman and Supergirl vs Darkseid was very visceral, easily the most visceral fight in the movie and one of (if not) the most visceral the DCAU has seen so far.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
damn women always ruining shit.

no one cares about kara looking powerful. she's just super powered eye candy.

bingo.

they F&^%ED up with the story with letting Bats and Superman appear on wonder womans lezbo island

fianlly watched this.liked it, but thought t coud have been better..

now bring on knightfall

Originally posted by chomperx9
they F&^%ED up with the story with letting Bats and Superman appear on wonder womans lezbo island

Might want to re-read the story

they both appear there in the comic arc.

So is this worth buying or not. Better or worse than Public Enemies?

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Don't get me wrong, the end battle was good, but I was expecting it to play out like it did in the comics (which imo is almost as badass as it gets):
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1953/45160012.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9284/73325870.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1020/54988297.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2059/52740108.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9739/95847106.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1121/31108140.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2653/85434441.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4567/85306829.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9356/76970531.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1140/d10o.jpg


But it was completely different. Still enjoyable, just not what I expected.

Really? Because I thought that fight was garbage. The movie's final fight was better to me, because the comic felt like another "Darkseid isn't really that dangerous" fight. The movie, despite the silly 'space' solution, had an absolutely incredible fight at the end, possibly one of the best animation has had to offer in god knows how long.

Originally posted by Allankles
Batman has plenty screen time (as you might expect, it's called Superman/Batman afterall), but don't expect great fights from him, he is somewhat overmatched physically in the situations he finds himself in during this story. As he should be, but it was cool how Public Enemies(both the book and film) depicted him as a beast. I swear they potrayed him as if he were on Spider-Man's level, beating Bane with ease, slapping Shiva around, surviving against Freeze, Cold, and that other chick, etc. Fun book, fun movie.

Originally posted by chomperx9
they F&^%ED up with the story with letting Bats and Superman appear on wonder womans lezbo island This happened in the book.

The animation for this doesn't look promising. I know they're attempting to make it look like Turner's work(it doesn't come close) but the Public Enemies was really well done in this area. Meh. I'll try and rent it via Redbox.

Is this seeing Under The Red Hood?

Should have just called this; Supergirl origins. I wanted to see Superman and Batman like the title suggests, not 60 minutes of Supergirl trying to be an Earth girl

Does Batman have any good action like in Public Enemies?

Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
Really? Because I thought that fight was garbage. The movie's final fight was better to me, because the comic felt like another "Darkseid isn't really that dangerous" fight. The movie, despite the silly 'space' solution, had an absolutely incredible fight at the end, possibly one of the best animation has had to offer in god knows how long.

Exactly DS is death, any fight involving him that doesn't end in the other guy getting beaten or seriously maimed isn't a DS fight. You either have him winning, scoring a stalemate, or if he loses takes out the other guy in the process. This fight went with stalemate BFR, the comics fight went with ultra tame defeat, it's clear which is better. This was more of what you expect from the most evil despot in the universe.

So I take it Darkseid looked properly stronger than Clark in this movie?

Good.

I think the issue was that Supergirl put up a better fight than Kal El.

Haven't seen it yet. Will do so soon.

According to Pr the director was phemail. Let's continue to blame her.

finally watched this.. liked it but could a been better

Originally posted by CosmicComet
So I take it Darkseid looked properly stronger than Clark in this movie?

Good.

For the most part, yeah. I really don't like it when they make Darkseid seem weak. As previously said, he's the ultimate threat of the universe. That final tier of power in which Superman will always be tested by. No matter how much Superman develops in his strength, so should Darkseid. His whole existence is training in darkness and evil. And when Superman does win, it needs to be a struggle.

A good example of that to me:
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^that was a good way for darkseid to lose, but then they shat on it when Superman revealed in justice league that he was holding back on darkseid. since it takes place in the same continuity...well damn. darkseid doesn't look like such a threat does he?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
^that was a good way for darkseid to lose, but then they shat on it when Superman revealed in justice league that he was holding back on darkseid. since it takes place in the same continuity...well damn. darkseid doesn't look like such a threat does he?

I'm pretty certain that's not what he meant. He gave it his all against Darkseid in every fight. It's everything on earth he held back. And to be honest, I think that alone kind of demeans any adventure he's had.
But to be fair to Darkseid as well, he came out of that super punch completely unharmed, and would've won regardless.

And before that Darkseid already beat Superman twice, Superman barely won that round, next round he had a roof fall ontop of him and couldn't get out, next DS got revenge and won again in Justice League.

Guys,

Clark beat his ass here:
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And all he had to say was that he would win this time because he wouldn't stop. Darkseid was left in a bloody mess and couldn't even get out from under some rubble after Clark beat his ass.

And here:
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Supes admits right there that he is going to cut loose on Darkseid for the first time. And he made it look easy. And that was a Darkseid that was more powerful than ever due to fusing with Braniac's tech or some shit like that. Darkseid was utterly outclassed in strength and speed and the only thing that would have given him the win in the end was his new OP'd 'Agony Matrix' maneuver or whatever.

In the end, Darkseid was a chump physically next to Clark in the animated series. Hell, even in the newest pen and paper RPG handbook from August, they give Darkseid a lower strength rating than Superman, Cap and Black Adam(They all have a 19, Darkseid has a 18).

Sad but true. Herald levelers shouldn't be able to spit shine Darkseid's shoes, but they can do much more than that nowadays.

He's Superman. You have to piss him off for him to beat down Darkseid.

Even in the comics Superman letting go of his inhibitions was what gave him an edge in their fights.

plus, in the finale fight of JLU, Darkseid had the edge for like 90% of the fight. Superman only challenged him when he caught his second wind.

Even though Sups finally unleashed the beast on DS, he was still able to shrug it off and unleash that Agony Matrix and was walking around just fine. Sups put a bigger beating on DS in the first Superman cartoon.

And in the movie, Bats seemed to imply that Kara could be stronger than Sups. Might explain why she dished it out better than Sups did.

My biggest gripe was why did Wonder Woman think it made sense to try to kidnap Kara and have...whoever the multiplying flaming fist chick beat Sups up instead of...I dunno...asking Sups outright? Or was it just a ploy to get Kara to unleash her powers and wreck up the park? Either way, seemed wasteful.

Darkseid sounded like a faggy boy.

I knew who it was when I heard his voice. Bad choice of actor.

I was disappointed that Batman didn't get his licks in (DS "fight". He did in the book.

This movie sucked.

Why do you think it sucked? I enjoyed it.

I wanted to see superman and WW go at it over Supergirl