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5 Aliens are in the Death Star. Who wins? The dreaded acidic based life forms or the Empire.

Who is fighting them? Vader and stormtroopers?

The Death Star had about a million stromtroopers on it. Probably more.

5 vs a million. What do you think?

Both.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Death Star had about a million stromtroopers on it. Probably more.

5 vs a million. What do you think? Not to mention the ****in Vader.

Hell, a small group of Stormtroopers would be enough.

I noticed something about the SW movies. The Stormtroopers are indeed as badass as the Clones. BUT.....Anytime Han and Leia are near them, it's like they forget every bit of their training.

A small group of Stormtroopers would get owned by 5 Xenomorphs.

Unless Vader is onboard........

50 Stormtroopers would pwn them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
50 Stormtroopers would pwn them.

Actually, the stormtroopers on the Death Star were mostly incompetent idiots, so maybe not them. But Vader could probably solo.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Actually, the stormtroopers on the Death Star were mostly incompetent idiots, so maybe not them. But Vader could probably solo.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hell, a small group of Stormtroopers would be enough.

I noticed something about the SW movies. The Stormtroopers are indeed as badass as the Clones. BUT.....Anytime Han and Leia are near them, it's like they forget every bit of their training.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
50 Stormtroopers would pwn them. Not what I had in mind when you said a small group.

Star Wars tech isn't all that impressive within the ship. Xenomorphs are shown to be resistant to bullets to a certain degree. It's not like one shot will kill a Xenomorph. The Xenomorphs would fare much better in a dark place where their stealth could be put to an advantage.

Besides, if Vader is onboard he solos easily.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not what I had in mind when you said a small group.

Star Wars tech isn't all that impressive within the ship. Xenomorphs are shown to be resistant to bullets to a certain degree. It's not like one shot will kill a Xenomorph. The Xenomorphs would fare much better in a dark place where their stealth could be put to an advantage.

Besides, if Vader is onboard he solos easily. Agreed on Vader.

A blaster bolt is gonna go right through a Xeno as if hey were made of paper. No acid spill, it's beautiful.

This is true about the blaster. But it's doesn't equate to one shot, one kill. Xenomorphs are extremely tough, fast, and strong. Their deadly combination of tail, claws, and teeth would easily tear through multiple Stormtroopers.

Obi Wan Kenobi "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise."

Head shot.

Yeah, I guess their visors couldn't pick up Chewbacca, Han, Leia, or Luke for that matter.

EU Stormtroopers maybe, not the film versions. Clonetroopers? Yeah.

Vader stomps

.......if he's onboard.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
.......if he's onboard.


no reason to think why not, however if its just idiot stormtroopers than the Xenos should win

Man, fail.

You serious?

Stormies stomp... Hell Vader would solo.

Intresting note Xenomorphs are mentioned in the Star Wars EU.

Stormtroopers are badass, man. Te opening battle in ANH aboard the Tantive IV is testament to that, as well as Obi Wan's remarks about them being so precise.

Obviously when they are fighting Han, Luke and Leia, they are gonna look like shit.

You put 100 Stormtroopers against 100 Clones, sure, the Clones would win, but it wouldn't be a curbstomp.

Unless the Empire gets AT-AT's, yeah it would.

Totally missed everything I said.

Totally didn't.

So the battle aboard the Tantive IV, the Stormtroopers weren't efficient?

Canon fodder. Both the Rebels and the Stormtroopers sucked there. Xenomorphs will have too much freedom on a Death Star.

Aliens were getting killed in droves by the marines.

Storm troopers stomp.

Colonial Marines>>>Stormtroopers

Nah. Only Vasquez.

The Stormtroopers have done what exactly?

The same the marines did.

Die, mostly.

However, they were also the most feared fighting force in the galaxy. Doesn't mean much I know considering a hundred of them couldn't take on a force consisting of a washed-up jedi past his prime, a smuggler, a farm boy and a princess, but it's the context.

We are discussing the movie versions of these right?

I edited.

And I assume so...

That's weak. The Marines atleast had sucess without their main weaponry. They could actually hit their targets.

Because there were hundreds of them, yeah. In ANH the stormtroopers annhilated the rebel troops on the Tantive IV.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Aliens were getting killed in droves by the marines.

Storm troopers stomp.

5 Xenomorphs against the full might of the Death Star?

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/cigar_brilliant.jpg

^ Well they are on the Death Star, not fighting against it.


Would be more interesting if there was a hidden Queen somewhere laying eggs.

Indeed. I wouldn't mind seeing Vader take on a queen. Thread?

Understood. It'd be more interesting if their was a higher number of them than five.

EU Vader would destroy a Queen. Movie feats? Probably squeak it out.

I wonder if movie Vader can use his mind thing on it, you know, like in AOTC?

Is there a face hugger in that 5?

Because soldiers won't do squat!
If the Alien can breed then they split up and cover parts of the Death Star to avoid quarantine and sealing efforts. The Alien will kill all of them until they reach the Sith.

When Vader kills many Alien they simply send in a suicide drone to cover him in acid.....Vader dies.

1000000 soldiers = 1000000 hosts.

But can a facehugger get through a Storntroopers helmet?

Probably not but it wouldn't need to as a. it can strangle the trooper easily and b. the drones can manually implant an embryo in their victims.

Well, considering the fact that Han, Luke and Leia are not around, the Stormtroopers will suddenly becoming awesome killing machines.

If a Xenomorph somehow..someway managed to implant an embryo in Darth Vader..and it manages to to survive...I wonder if you would have a Xenomorph with Force powers...lol

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Indeed. I wouldn't mind seeing Vader take on a queen. Thread?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Understood. It'd be more interesting if their was a higher number of them than five.

EU Vader would destroy a Queen. Movie feats? Probably squeak it out.

Actually the main thing I was thinking was not Vader vs the Queen. He could probably take it out with one saber throw. If the Queen remains hidden and keeps pumping out eggs, the drones could potentially multiply into thousands given how many people are on board the Death Star. Vader would be overwhelmed if that happened.

The Jedi and their lightsabers would destroy any other fictional creature/character except Superman and other invulnerable ones.

Especially since the Aliens have the IQ of a wolf, or some other lower carnivore. Since lightsabers instantly cauterize, their acid blood wouldn't be a concern.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Jedi and their lightsabers would destroy any other fictional creature/character except Superman and other invulnerable ones.

Especially since the Aliens have the IQ of a wolf, or some other lower carnivore. Since lightsabers instantly cauterize, their acid blood wouldn't be a concern.

Um, theres no Jedi in this topic. Theres one Sith, Vader, and he can be overwhelmed (for example in the scenario I described).

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But can a facehugger get through a Storntroopers helmet?

The Drones capture random Troopers and rip their helmets off.

The Death Star would be a playground for breeding Alien.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But can a facehugger get through a Storntroopers helmet?

no reason to think they couldn't. they got through kane's helmet.

Originally posted by Placidity
Um, theres no Jedi in this topic. Theres one Sith, Vader, and he can be overwhelmed (for example in the scenario I described).

Is Tarkin also aboard?

His cold steely gaze = a suddenly intimidated and docile Alien.

"Fear will keep them in line..."

No idea who Tarkin is, I'm assuming it's an EU character, which means he won't be in this topic, or indeed this forum.

Anyway.

Aliens know no fear.

Originally posted by Placidity
No idea who Tarkin is, I'm assuming it's an EU character, which means he won't be in this topic, or indeed this forum.

Anyway.

Aliens know no fear.

He's from the movie: the Imperial military leader who ordered the Death Star's first shot.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wilhuff_Tarkin

Originally posted by Placidity
No idea who Tarkin is, I'm assuming it's an EU character, which means he won't be in this topic, or indeed this forum.

Anyway.

Aliens know no fear.



peter cushing.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
He's from the movie: the Imperial military leader who ordered the Death Star's first shot.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wilhuff_Tarkin

Oh right...

The way you described him, one could have mistaken him as some Sith Lord.

Face hugger should have definitely been added to the OP 5 drones would not last long enough to do meaningful damage.

The Alien only need one to make a Queen.

Less than a dozen Space Marines took out an entire hive of Xenos, no problem.

Why in the Blue F*ck couldn't an entire moon-sized battle station, filled with soldiers, weapons, ships, transports, and, yes, a Sith Lord, or two, take out five damn Xenos?

This is spite.

Originally posted by Impediment
Less than a dozen Space Marines took out an entire hive of Xenos, no problem.

Why in the Blue F*ck couldn't an entire moon-sized battle station, filled with soldiers, weapons, ships, transports, and, yes, a Sith Lord, or two, take out five damn Xenos?

This is spite.

one marine survived. that's hardly "no problem."

and they only won because the thing self destructed.

or are we talking about something else?

(not saying the aliens would win, though)

Originally posted by Impediment
Less than a dozen Space Marines took out an entire hive of Xenos, no problem.

Why in the Blue F*ck couldn't an entire moon-sized battle station, filled with soldiers, weapons, ships, transports, and, yes, a Sith Lord, or two, take out five damn Xenos?

This is spite. People always focus on the negative with Stormtroopers. They forget that Obi Wan said "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise" and they forget how badass they were during the Tantive IV battle.

100 Stormtroopers would take out the Xenos.

That's because this thread is a STOMP!

If face huggers were added it would change the war in the Alien's favor

Hardly.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hell, a small group of Stormtroopers would be enough.



A small group of storm troopers couldn't kill a fly.



The Aliens would probably be able to kill quite a few but without the ability to impregnate any hosts with, Facehuggers they will die quickly. The only difference between the Storm Troopers and the Colonial Marines is laser blasters. Even with that considered, The Colonial Marines are better soldiers, imo

With a few facehuggers the Xenomorphs would get a lot more kills but i don't think the Aliens would ever be able to over take the death star for the simple reason that the Stor Troopers built the Death Star, they are to familiar with their environment to lose. As far as skill and tactics though, the Storm Troopers are possibly some of the worst enemies to pit against the Xenomorphs. Storm Troopers are overrated canon fodder.

Observe:

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Unless Han, Luke or Leia are in the fight, Stormtroopers are badass killing machines.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Observe:



Unless Han, Luke or Leia are in the fight, Stormtroopers are badass killing machines.

One word...,

Ewoks

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
One word...,

Ewoks Han and Leia were there

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Han and Leia were there

It's funny how you act like that's a valid argument.

Luke is only good when there are bad guys around. If he were fighting another hero (e.g Robin) in a fight, he'd lose.

If Vader was on board it would be a no contest. He would sense a creature as ferocious as a Xeno and then either dispatch of them quickly or trap them and shoot them out of the airlock.

No Vader and a Queen Xeno present is the only way I think the Xeno's could win.

Originally posted by Placidity
It's funny how you act like that's a valid argument.

Luke is only good when there are bad guys around. If he were fighting another hero (e.g Robin) in a fight, he'd lose.


Fact: The Stormtroopers were efficient as hell aboard the Tantive IV.

Fact: Obi Wan praised their precise aim.

Fact: The Stormtroopers suddenly turn to shit when Han, Luke and/or Leia are around.



You denying this? The high end feat for the Stormtroopers is the battle on the Tantive IV, most people use high end feats here.

Being that there are Alens in star wars it is about even but I think star wars may win.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Fact: The Stormtroopers were efficient as hell aboard the Tantive IV.

Fact: Obi Wan praised their precise aim.

Fact: The Stormtroopers suddenly turn to shit when Han, Luke and/or Leia are around.


Fact: Stormtroopers are normally shit 99.99% of the time

Fact: They suddenly fought well once aboard Tantive IV.

Fact: Obi Wan was wrong about the Troopers as explained by George Lucas.

Originally posted by Placidity
Fact: Stormtroopers are normally shit 99.99% of the time

Fact: They suddenly fought well once aboard Tantive IV.

Fact: Obi Wan was wrong about the Troopers as explained by George Lucas.

OK, they were efficient:

1. Aboard the Tantive IV.

2. The battle of Yavin (Except for that one dumbass who veered into Vader)

3. The battle at the second Death Star.

4. The battle at Hoth.

5. When overtaking Cloud City (They obviously overtook Lando's security)

That's off the top of my head.


Now, list the times when they were inefficient.

Originally posted by Placidity

Fact: They suddenly fought well once aboard Tantive IV.


I'd argue the level of "well". They shot down a corridor and used the advantage of vast numbers to overwhelm an enemy who was also just shooting down a corridor.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'd argue the level of "well". They shot down a corridor and used the advantage of vast numbers to overwhelm an enemy who was also just shooting down a corridor. They were filing through a small opening, firing as they went, felling Rebels left and right. They never lost their cool, never panicked. Efficient.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
They were filing through a small opening, firing as they went, felling Rebels left and right. They never lost their cool, never panicked. Efficient.

There were 12 or so Rebels, dude.

Also, why are the rest of my post in the this thread gone? WTF.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, they were efficient:

1. Aboard the Tantive IV.

2. The battle of Yavin (Except for that one dumbass who veered into Vader)

3. The battle at the second Death Star.

4. The battle at Hoth.

5. When overtaking Cloud City (They obviously overtook Lando's security)

That's off the top of my head.


Now, list the times when they were inefficient.

Maybe I'll do that when you counter my third point/fact.

Originally posted by Robtard
There were 12 or so Rebels, dude.

Also, why are the rest of my post in the this thread gone? WTF.

There were two threads like this. Your posts are probably in that other thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Han and Leia were there

This isn't World of Warcraft, man. The Ewoks aren't bestowed a skill boost from the leaders warcry Most of the scenes i remember where the Ewoks were running all over the stormtroopers with rocks and logs, Han and Leia were no where to be seen

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Fact: Obi Wan praised their precise aim.

Fact: The Stormtroopers suddenly turn to shit when Han, Luke and/or Leia are around.



You denying this? The high end feat for the Stormtroopers is the battle on the Tantive IV, most people use high end feats here.

If this is considered fact then it's also a fact that, Obi Wan has poor observation skills because in the same scene where he praised the Storm Troopers divine aim, the Storm Troopers were missing everything they shot at.


The only reason that the Storm Troopers appear to be more efficient when the heroes arent around is because we get to see them for longer periods of time when the Heroes are around. This gives us more time to see them falter and buckle under pressure. Also, Wasn't Leia onboard Tantive IV ?

Originally posted by dadudemon
There were two threads like this. Your posts are probably in that other thread.

Ah, thx. Odd about the duo-threads.

Originally posted by Placidity
Maybe I'll do that when you counter my third point/fact. I did.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
If this is considered fact then it's also a fact that, Obi Wan has poor observation skills because in the same scene where he praised the Storm Troopers divine aim, the Storm Troopers were missing everything they shot at.


The only reason that the Storm Troopers appear to be more efficient when the heroes arent around is because we get to see them for longer periods of time when the Heroes are around. This gives us more time to see them falter and buckle under pressure. Also, Wasn't Leia onboard Tantive IV ? She wasn't in the fight.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
She wasn't in the fight.

JJ makes a good point. You could be using a slippery slope argument.



I'm not nerdy enough to want to contemplate every single moment that the Princess was in a fight, and present, vs present by not fighting.

Originally posted by Placidity
Fact: Stormtroopers are normally shit 99.99% of the time

Fact: They suddenly fought well once aboard Tantive IV.

Fact: Obi Wan was wrong about the Troopers as explained by George Lucas.

A SINGLE hit in a vital spot by a stormtrooper would drop an alien. Even if the stormtroopers miss 99.99% of the time, there are hundreds of thousands of stormtroopers on the Death Star, not to mention potentially the 501st.

Originally posted by ares834

You serious?

Stormies stomp... Hell Vader would solo.

Intresting note Xenomorphs are mentioned in the Star Wars EU.

That's not too surprising, they're both used by Fox and Dark Horse.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
A SINGLE hit in a vital spot by a stormtrooper would drop an alien. Even if the stormtroopers miss 99.99% of the time, there are hundreds of thousands of stormtroopers on the Death Star, not to mention potentially the 501st. Hello Objectivity.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I did.


No you didn't you lying bastard.

Originally posted by Placidity
No you didn't you lying bastard. Mhm I did, you just don't like the answer.

Easy on the insults, AC.

Originally posted by Placidity
No you didn't you lying bastard.




WTF?

A little harsh, eh?

And, no, I'm not reporting this shit....ever! It's good stuff.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Easy on the insults, AC.

I wish we could use insults, more often, in these threads. It's sooo much more fun to put in insults.

Originally posted by dadudemon



WTF?

A little harsh, eh?

And, no, I'm not reporting this shit....ever! It's good stuff.



I wish we could use insults, more often, in these threads. It's sooo much more fun to put in insults. Report him? For what reason? Because he lashed out at me? That shit happens, man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Report him? For what reason? Because he lashed out at me? That shit happens, man.

It does happen; it happens to you more than the average poster though. Probably because you're an @shole. My guess.

Originally posted by Robtard
It does happen; it happens to you more than the average poster though. Probably because you're an @shole. My guess.

Mhm, that's right, McClane, but I'm your kind of *******.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I did.

She wasn't in the fight.


Ok, well then, lets do this using your logic...,Vadar was there and that's the ONLY reason why the Storm Troopers seemed competent.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Ok, well then, lets do this using your logic...,Vadar was there and that's the ONLY reason why the Storm Troopers seemed competent. And once again, the loop ensues.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And once again, the loop ensues.

No it doesn't, because both are logical fallacies.

He was only using it to show you the error of your ways. But I don't think it'll ever work.