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Can anyone give me a list of at least 10 or more Asian (excluding Indians and Middle Eastern ethnicity) American Comic book superheroes?

Here are the rules for this one since I'm tired of people screwing up on the listings on other forums:

1. They have to be purely of Asian decent and must not have white, black, or alien blood or it doesn't count really because then they just are categorized as " Mixed Race" Superheroes.------> Looking at you Karate Kid and Shang-Chi.

2. The 10 heroes you list cannot be super heroes from another country working to assist the United States, ie. Born and raised in China for most of their life, comes to U.S. to assist in crime control, etc. ----> Shang-Chi.

These guys don't count as Asian Americans unless they are NATURALIZED citizens. I apologize for the caps lock.

3. The 10 heroes you list cannot be from any Anime or Manga source.

4. The Heroes you list cannot be of FEMALE origin. I think it's unfair when Marvel and DC has more Asian heroes that are females because of their sex appeal due to their gender, which I find disgusted because the male Asian super hero is never treated in that like and I feel our women are being taken for granted.
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I think I made myself clearly on those rules. I find it difficult myself to name 10 Asian-American MALE super heroes, or heroes.

Discrimination against Asian American heroes in Marvel, DC, or any other American comic book publishing companies? I hope not if you guys can find at least 10 or more MALE Asian American Super heroes.

Originally posted by Void Heart

4. The Heroes you list cannot be of FEMALE origin.

They should count, otherwise its sexist to exclude them.

You're actually applying the glass ceiling to a fictional universe.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
They should count, otherwise its sexist to exclude them.

You're actually applying the glass ceiling to a fictional universe.

Not to be sexist, but females in comics are usually regarded as a marketing tool in order to draw in the (Majority) male audience to buy more comics from major comic companies like DC and Marvel.

Besides, whenever I see an Asian American female used to attract the male audience in mainstream comics, it sickens me because this parallels how Asiam American women are viewed in the real world entertainment industry...you're right. I may be a little bit of a sexist, but where is the respect and glorification of Male Asian American men in American main stream comics?

Discrimination at it's highest. It just proves how Marvel and other major comic companies in the US (also Hollywood)discriminate against the Asiam Male due to what's happened in the past.

This would be a better fit to the comic book Forum

Originally posted by Void Heart
2. The 10 heroes you list cannot be super heroes from another country working to assist the United States, ie. Born and raised in China for most of their life, comes to U.S. to assist in crime control, etc. ----> Shang-Chi.

What? Why shouldn't there be Asian people from Asia?

Originally posted by Void Heart
4. The Heroes you list cannot be of FEMALE origin.

All people are of "female origin" (except MacDuff in my awesome MacBeth fanfic).

Let's see

Ryan Choi (the current Atom)
Amadeus Cho (boy genius)
Bushido (teen titans member)
Grunge (Gen13)
Kato (Green Hornet comic adaptation)
Grail (Wetworks)


Of course there are tons of them if we drop the absurd "no Asians from Asia" rule. Not to mention that Asians who live outside of Asia are fairly likely to have mixed race kids. Between those two unrealistic restrictions you cut away the vast majority of Asian characters, making their numbers seem artifically low.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What? Why shouldn't there be Asian people from Asia?



All people are of "female origin" (except MacDuff in my awesome MacBeth fanfic).

Let's see

Ryan Choi (the current Atom)
Amadeus Cho (boy genius)
Bushido (teen titans member)
Grunge (Gen13)
Kato (Green Hornet comic adaptation)
Grail (Wetworks)


Of course there are tons of them if we drop the absurd "no Asians from Asia" rule. Not to mention that Asians who live outside of Asia are fairly likely to have mixed race kids. Between those two unrealistic restrictions you cut away the vast majority of Asian characters, making their numbers seem artifically low.

I'm not discriminating against Asian heroes myself here. Marvel and DC wouldn't discriminate against Asians but what about Asian Americans? Why are they under represented so much in the main stream comic book community? Are they too "Asian" too be an American? Is that the reason why marvel and DC have created few to none Male Asian American heroes yet?

This thread is about ASIAN AMERICAN super heroes, not ASIAN super heroes

Ryan Choi - Born in Hong Kong. Not a naturalized citizen of the U.S. if I recall so he's out of the question here.

Amadeus Cho - Researched him on the web but sites like Comic Vine or Wikepidea haven't given me much info on his background info.

Bushido - Born in Japan. Not a naturalized American Asian

Grunge - Born in Hong Kong. Raised in Chago. Don't know if he's a naturalized American. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one

Kato ( Green Hornet ) - Where he is born and whether or nor he is American is unknown. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one.

Grail - Wild storm grail? He's Filipino but not American on the sites I've read about him.


So you've got 3 un-naturalized characters of asian decent plus another 3 unknowns if they're Americans or not

Just shows how the major comic book companies look down upon Asian American Males.

Besides, you've also got an Ad of a Black Dude and an Asian Girl on the top hand screen of this site, yet the opposite doesn't occur between Asian Men or Black girls, not any other girls of other races other than ASIAN.

Does America seriously look down upon Male Asian American Heroes and Asian American men in general so much?

i still say this should be moved

But Amadeus Cho is defintely american born, I think midwest area actually (could be wrong about that part. but he has always lived in america)

Originally posted by jalek moye
i still say this should be moved

But Amadeus Cho is defintely american born, I think midwest area actually (could be wrong about that part. but he has always lived in america)

Can you give me a source to prove that Amadeus is an Asian American man as you say he is?

Originally posted by Void Heart
Can anyone give me a list of at least 10 or more Asian (excluding Indians and Middle Eastern ethnicity) American Comic book superheroes?

Racist!




So they must be motherless as well? It is indeed hard to name ten

All female superheroe comic book characters are used for their sex appeal, you're just no hung up about the ones that arent asian.

There are tons of other very specific populational groups minoritary in the usa that don't have 10 heroes either, specially if you can only count one gender. The representation of populational minorities in the usa among superheroes is probably not actually representative of its real world demography, but I think that just overepresents white anglo-saxons while downplaying all other groups (probably because because most writers are white). How many black american or chicano x-men can you name?

Even then, 'purely asian' american born heroes that have no mixed blood whatsoever are too specific for you to ask for ten. Arent most asian-americans of 'mixed race' anyway?

This rant about the comics keeping the male americans of "mongolic" asian descent down while valuing male asian and mixed "race" characters characters is not very convincing either. Asian-americans are a relativelly small demographic in the usa and characters from outside the usa have the appeal of the exotic to americans and make comics less us centric and more apealing to international markets - Marvel has got this down better than DC.

Originally posted by Void Heart

Besides, you've also got an Ad of a Black Dude and an Asian Girl on the top hand screen of this site, yet the opposite doesn't occur between Asian Men or Black girls, not any other girls of other races other than ASIAN.

Does America seriously look down upon Male Asian American Heroes and Asian American men in general so much? Get over it and chase after some black women.

Originally posted by Void Heart
Can you give me a source to prove that Amadeus is an Asian American man as you say he is?

Icredible Hercules #137 states he is from Arizona, grew up there and everything.

Originally posted by Void Heart
Grunge - Born in Hong Kong. Raised in Chago. Don't know if he's a naturalized American. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one.

His father specifically sent him to America to hide him, it would be bizarre if he didn't become a citizen.

Originally posted by Void Heart
Just shows how the major comic book companies look down upon Asian American Males.

No, it shows that they have a small number of asian american males of un-mixed racial heritage that operate primarily in the western world. Which makes sense, you've defined an incredibly specific set of people. The only group that fits in is first or second generation immigrants, after that it starts to become progressively more realistic for them to have one black, white, arab or moon person parent than to not. At the same time if you want a new character that doesn't have much family in the West you just make them from Asia since the effect is more pronounced and easier to work with.

You also have to remember that like all publishing comics are a margin business. A new character that gets his own book is a huge gamble so they mostly stick to established characters (nearly all white or comically racist due to the era) or legacy characters (often white, as they tend to be children of the old characters). The result is that racial diversity typical appears in team books or minor characters. No conspiracy or hatred, just a system that requires a lot of time to adjust.

/facepalm

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

All people are of "female origin" (except MacDuff in my awesome MacBeth fanfic).


And the guy in "All You Zombies".....kinda.

lets add jubilee(genX & X-men) american born mall rat chinese descent and psuedo daughter to wolverine...

also have Sunfire would be Cousin to Wolverine had he married Mariko Yashida. Silver Samurai is brother to Mariko and clan brother to wolverine as well. all three are Japanese.

wolverine's entire family cast is almost all Asians... his daughter Amiko, girlfriend Yukio... plus some of his enemies are mostly asians as well

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
lets add jubilee(genX & X-men) american born mall rat chinese descent and psuedo daughter to wolverine...

also have Sunfire would be Cousin to Wolverine had he married Mariko Yashida. Silver Samurai is brother to Mariko and clan brother to wolverine as well. all three are Japanese.

wolverine's entire family cast is almost all Asians... his daughter Amiko, girlfriend Yukio... plus some of his enemies are mostly asians as well

You missed DA RULES.

No women. Apparently in the West asian women exist only as sex objects and thus don't count as asian superheroes for some reason.

Villains aren't heroes either, they simply prove that in America everyone hates asian men.

No asians from Asia either, this thread is about asian americans only.

Who cares..

superman. he always cares even when he takes over the earth and steals all the nukes....

Well, lets estimate that to see if you actually have a point or not.

There are 14 million Asian Americans in the US. That's quite a lot.

Now lets take 3 million of those away cause you don't allow Fillipinos. 11 million. Not bad, still quite a lot.

Now we take another 5 million away for non naturalized and mixed race. 6 million, getting somewhat lower, but you still might have a point.

But wait, you only count males so that's 3 million US Americans (max) who fit your profile. Now there's about 300 000 000 Americans, excluding the Asian stemming ones, in the US. So for every 100 non-asian heroes there should be 1 American Asian Male one.


So...you name 100 heroes, I'll tell you one that fits your description (remember only US Americans...NO ALIENS).

GO!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, lets estimate that to see if you actually have a point or not.

There are 14 million Asian Americans in the US. That's quite a lot.

Now lets take 3 million of those away cause you don't allow Fillipinos. 11 million. Not bad, still quite a lot.

Now we take another 5 million away for non naturalized and mixed race. 6 million, getting somewhat lower, but you still might have a point.

But wait, you only count males so that's 3 million US Americans (max) who fit your profile. Now there's about 300 000 000 Americans, excluding the Asian stemming ones, in the US. So for every 100 non-asian heroes there should be 1 American Asian Male one.


So...you name 100 heroes, I'll tell you one that fits your description (remember only US Americans...NO ALIENS).

GO!


Well played.

I can't either think of any!I don't think there is any!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/3069263902_18da1346cf.jpg

Since the OP did not say they have to be fictional characters, nor that they have to have actual superpowers (otherwise, eg, Batman would not be considered a superhero)...

1. Both parents were Chinese.
2. Born in USA.
3. Not Manga/Anime origin.
4. Not female.
5. Bonus: beat Chuck Norris.

The mold was broken after Bruce. That's why no one bothered with 9 others.

Does Mortal Komet count?I am not sure if there is any comics on them but the guy is asian and inleast in the movie a hero!

Originally posted by Mindship
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/3069263902_18da1346cf.jpg

Since the OP did not say they have to be fictional characters, nor that they have to have actual superpowers (otherwise, eg, Batman would not be considered a superhero)...

1. Both parents were Chinese.
2. Born in USA.
3. Not Manga/Anime origin.
4. Not female.
5. Bonus: beat Chuck Norris.

The mold was broken after Bruce. That's why no one bothered with 9 others. Way to go

Originally posted by 753
Racist!




So they must be motherless as well? It is indeed hard to name ten

All female superheroe comic book characters are used for their sex appeal, you're just no hung up about the ones that arent asian.

There are tons of other very specific populational groups minoritary in the usa that don't have 10 heroes either, specially if you can only count one gender. The representation of populational minorities in the usa among superheroes is probably not actually representative of its real world demography, but I think that just overepresents white anglo-saxons while downplaying all other groups (probably because because most writers are white). How many black american or chicano x-men can you name?

Even then, 'purely asian' american born heroes that have no mixed blood whatsoever are too specific for you to ask for ten. Arent most asian-americans of 'mixed race' anyway?

This rant about the comics keeping the male americans of "mongolic" asian descent down while valuing male asian and mixed "race" characters characters is not very convincing either. Asian-americans are a relativelly small demographic in the usa and characters from outside the usa have the appeal of the exotic to americans and make comics less us centric and more apealing to international markets - Marvel has got this down better than DC.

There is certainly a large population of Asian American men in the US. And you're wrong about most Asian americans being mixed race. Almost all of them aren't mixed race and those that are usually mixed race usually occurs between a white man and an asian woman, but the same isn't true for the parallel

Originally posted by Void Heart
There is certainly a large population of Asian American men in the US. And you're wrong about most Asian americans being mixed race. Almost all of them aren't mixed race and those that are usually mixed race usually occurs between a white man and an asian woman, but the same isn't true for the parallel The majority of asian-americans arent mixed race by now? Well I guess I do not understand american culture and its racialist unmiscigenating ways. But I've seen that speech before, usually from angry white women and asian men unsatisfied with the white guy asian chick coupling. However I've also seen people claiming that the interacial marriage rate has equaled between asian descended men and women in the usa in the last few years. Hasn't the situation changed?

to the OP:

so what, you just want comic companies to invent characters that are Asian American? look at some of the terrible black and gay characters out there, diversity shouldn't be as important as artistic vision. if you want real asian American characters who will stand the test of time, they need to have more going for them aside from filling a racial quota.

Indians not allowed? This is a totally arbitrary stupid rule, and to be quite frank it furthers the misguided and actually racist notion that Asian cultural identity should be defined by far east asians only. Equally awful is saying the phillipines also don't count, which I really can't find much cause for except that you don't think they count for arbitrary and racist reasons.

Like already stated, you've trimmed down the categories with these rules until you managed to capture only 1% of the US's population... so to be frank, expecting more than 1% of superheroes to fall into this category is actually the racist part.

Originally posted by Void Heart
Can anyone give me a list of at least 10 or more Asian (excluding Indians and Middle Eastern ethnicity) American Comic book superheroes?

Here are the rules for this one since I'm tired of people screwing up on the listings on other forums:

1. They have to be purely of Asian decent and must not have white, black, or alien blood or it doesn't count really because then they just are categorized as " Mixed Race" Superheroes.------> Looking at you Karate Kid and Shang-Chi.

2. The 10 heroes you list cannot be super heroes from another country working to assist the United States, ie. Born and raised in China for most of their life, comes to U.S. to assist in crime control, etc. ----> Shang-Chi.

These guys don't count as Asian Americans unless they are NATURALIZED citizens. I apologize for the caps lock.

3. The 10 heroes you list cannot be from any Anime or Manga source.

4. The Heroes you list cannot be of FEMALE origin. I think it's unfair when Marvel and DC has more Asian heroes that are females because of their sex appeal due to their gender, which I find disgusted because the male Asian super hero is never treated in that like and I feel our women are being taken for granted.
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I think I made myself clearly on those rules. I find it difficult myself to name 10 Asian-American MALE super heroes, or heroes.

Discrimination against Asian American heroes in Marvel, DC, or any other American comic book publishing companies? I hope not if you guys can find at least 10 or more MALE Asian American Super heroes. colossus nightcrawler

and middle eastern superheroes dont exist

Originally posted by chomperx9
colossus nightcrawler

and middle eastern superheroes dont exist
While you could consider Russia to be in Asia (especially Siberia), no stretch of the imagination would make Nightcrawler Asian American...

Originally posted by 753
The majority of asian-americans arent mixed race by now? Well I guess I do not understand american culture and its racialist unmiscigenating ways. But I've seen that speech before, usually from angry white women and asian men unsatisfied with the white guy asian chick coupling. However I've also seen people claiming that the interacial marriage rate has equaled between asian descended men and women in the usa in the last few years. Hasn't the situation changed?

You're telling me the majority of Asian Americans are mixed race lol? Then I should say the majority of White Americans in the US should be mixed race with black and Hispanic blood in them right, due to your logic?

Can you give ma a statistic on " mixed race" americans so I can believe you? The situation hasn't changed. You still see a lot of asian american gals go out with white guys while the parallel isn't happening

Originally posted by Void Heart
You still see a lot of asian american gals go out with white guys while the parallel isn't happening
According to what? Seems pretty even to me. And like you said, statistics or GTFO.

Originally posted by Void Heart
it sickens me because this parallels how Asiam American women are viewed in the real world entertainment industry

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/5/17/633781773093458100-OMG.jpg

@void heart

i have no idea what it is you tryin to show... i think you are seriously projecting your racial views onto everyone else... you know ppl can do something without it being derived from a negative place..

ppl write and draw from what they know that doesnt make them racist b/c they didnt think of a particular race...

if anything you are the one with the issues not everyone else and to let you know my country objectifies just about every race of women some more so then asian ones..

the most common one are:
blond blue eye variety(european)
after european women you got the hispanic salma hayek the holly barry's and what not..

your whole asian thing is ludacris what you are asking for is one sided favoritism and are angry when you are not getting it.

there are other races that are almost never heard of in comics that one would assume has more reason to be written about and no one is crying about it. hispanics/blks.

if you want to see more asian americans i suggest you write jim lee or get more asian writers to right comics.. if you get any other race to write about asians they may be accused of stereo typing.

the problem is ppl write what they know nothing wrong with not knowing about or writing about a group of ppl.

Originally posted by chomperx9

and middle eastern superheroes dont exist

Jabbar the Powerful is Saudi Arabian.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2009/08/22/2009-08- 22_muslim_superheroes_the_99_include_burkaclad_wom
an_hit_show_coming_to_british_tv.html

Originally posted by Void Heart
Besides, whenever I see an Asian American female used to attract the male audience in mainstream comics, it sickens me because this parallels how Asiam American women are viewed in the real world entertainment industry.


Then you'd likely vomit if you saw how countries like Japan view Asian women in the entertainment industry.

http://media.animegalleries.net/albums/Naruto/hinata/naruto_hinata0017.jpg

Originally posted by Void Heart
There is certainly a large population of Asian American men in the US. And you're wrong about most Asian americans being mixed race. Almost all of them aren't mixed race and those that are usually mixed race usually occurs between a white man and an asian woman, but the same isn't true for the parallel
So...white women aren't sleeping with you, so you make a thread bashing Comic Book Publishers.

Typical asian butthurt.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So...white women aren't sleeping with you, so you make a thread bashing Comic Book Publishers.

Kid's gotta vent somehow, maybe you should be a little more sympathetic to his plight, B.

Originally posted by Robtard
Kid's gotta vent somehow, maybe you should be a little more sympathetic to his plight, B. Well, I could understand it, but in my experience (based on American Television) women don't sleep with men based on Comic Book Heroes, in fact, apparently it might even be adverse.

This is likely true.

Should I let him **** my sister?

I volunteer to take his place if he declines.

Originally posted by Robtard
This is likely true.

Should I let him **** my sister?

Hottard or Fattard?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hottard or Fattard?

Stdtard, I was thinking.

I've built up an immunity to STD's over the years. Lemme at 'em.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I've built up an immunity to STD's over the years. Lemme at 'em.

Sorry, there's one rule and one rule only.

Rule: No black.

If you feel cheated, please vent here

You have no right to deny your sister orgasmic bliss and happiness as she's never known, for twenty minutes.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then you'd likely vomit if you saw how countries like Japan view Asian women in the entertainment industry.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/WatchOut_02/Japan.gif

...And after reading all that text, I still have yet to figure out what the OP was trying to prove.

Oh. And why isn't this in the Comic section?