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who wins?

WOW, New Sun stomps with his limited feats.

Originally posted by The Nuul
WOW, New Sun stomps with his limited feats.

Apocalypse wins.

Lulz.

Feats for New Sun worth mentioning?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Feats for New Sun worth mentioning? Wiping out his home planet full of superhumans, traversing crosstime, creating a pocket reality, killing his universe's phoenix, blowing things up on the molecular level, the list goes on. He ragestomps apocalypse.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Feats for New Sun worth mentioning?

killed the phoenix by himself.....beat apoc.....no text just pic.....and destroyed all life on his earth......can burn through reality,gravity....is basically living energy....and can control all kinetic energy.......

^Not impressed

Originally posted by iceman24567
^Not impressed He also looks a lot cooler than Iceman.

Did he kill the Phoenix FORCE or just avatars?

For all his defenses Apoc appears vulnerable to extremely powerful energy manipulators with skill and fine control. New Sun would decimate him.

Then again.. didn`t Gambit succeed in overloading him?

poccy loses

Originally posted by 753
He also looks a lot cooler than Iceman. Impossible so you must be lying

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Did he kill the Phoenix FORCE or just avatars?

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt240/ScarletSpeed/Gambits_024_007.jpg

Originally posted by iceman24567
Impossible so you must be lying

IDK i feel he pulls off the blue look better....

Drake gets the bitches though

Hmm...

That scan didn't say how he killed that world's version of Phoenix, and it also doesn't depict him killing Apocalypse, just shows him along with a team of X-Men fighting Apocalypse.

A call of shenanigans may be in order.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

That scan didn't say how he killed that world's version of Phoenix, and it also doesn't depict him killing Apocalypse, just shows him along with a team of X-Men fighting Apocalypse.

A call of shenanigans may be in order. which equals unimpressive

Jean has went by the code name Phoenix, without the Phoenix Force. In those times, Jean was called Phoenix.

New Sun easily..he's way more powerful..

Oh and BTW Apoc is about to get his ass kicked in by this lot...

http://marvel.com/news/all.13213.uncanny_x-force_revealed

So, I see. Phoenix turned out not to be Phoenix and he needed help to defeat a weaker Apocalypse.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
So, I see. Phoenix turned out not to be Phoenix and he needed help to defeat a weaker Apocalypse. He states clearly it was his universe's phoenix and claiming it was a version of jean grey not bonded to the force is nonsense. There is no way you can know that version of apocalypse was weaker. Even discounting these two, his feats and powerset are still above poccy's.