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What If...during Thor 300...every single Skyfather plus their entire pantheons (Odin with the Asgardians, Zeus with the Olympians, and so on and so on) had entered The Destroyer to face the 4th Celestial Host?

Btw, according to Thor 300, I count 19 Skyfathers (and that total includes Odin) on panel...

In Thor 300, as many of you know, only Odin and Asgard combined (minus Thor) entered The Destroyer to do battle with the Celestials...and they were convincingly defeated.

I would imagine that if the other 18 Skyfathers+pantheons had entered The Destroyer as well that it would have been far more powerful than it was with just Odin+Asgard inside of it...

Just some food for thought good people!

one overcrowded destroyer...

This is tough.I forget didn't a single celestial put down the destroyer?

Even with this uber boost I don't see them taking the entire fourth host.Although they put up a fight.

no, 5-6 celestials blasted it at the same time

i belive in a one on one fight the destroyer would of killed gammon before he could regernarate

but all skyfather and all pantheons in the armor?
i say they kill 3-4 celestials before getting destroyed

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no, 5-6 celestials blasted it at the same time

i belive in a one on one fight the destroyer would of killed gammon before he could regernarate

but all skyfather and all pantheons in the armor?
i say they kill 3-4 celestials before getting destroyed I'd say more 2-3 but I agree with this

I, too, feel that this version of the Destroyer would give the 4th host one hell of a fight; it would ultimately lose, but the 4th host would dam sure know they'd been in a fight to the death...

This version of the Destroyer should be more powerful than the average Celestial (IMHO of course) and may even rival a truly powerful one...

And just for the record, I think this version of the AD would put down atleast 2 of the Celestials (not permanently...but convincingly as pertains this fight) before it fell itself...

it won't change a thing..the destroyer would get stomp..

So you believe the Asgardian Destroyer, powered by 19 skyfathers+their entire pantheons, gets stomped just like before!??

Wow...I guess the fact that the thing should be (bare minimum) an order of magnitude more powerful than its Thor 300 incarnation carries no weight with you against the Celestials...

:O

no change, Celestials still stomp. 1 Celestial is all it would take. Destroyer is waaaaaay overrated.

Originally posted by janus77
no change, Celestials still stomp. 1 Celestial is all it would take. Destroyer is waaaaaay overrated. dont be silly

Originally posted by janus77
no change, Celestials still stomp. 1 Celestial is all it would take. Destroyer is waaaaaay overrated. That may be true but all of asgard was what fought.It got easily dispatched.Add 18 more patheons of gods and all of their people too it and it would probably put 2-3 down itself.

nah, I doubt the pantheon put in to The Destroyer could achieve anything really. The Celestials weren't interested in fighting, their 'bodies' are hardly of any import whatsoever, they can reform without any effort, nothing much The Destroyer could do really.

the best you could say is that they could get a Celestial to pay them some consideration, until it annihilated them all.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
dont be silly
why? you scared of competition?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So you believe the Asgardian Destroyer, powered by 19 skyfathers+their entire pantheons, gets stomped just like before!??

Wow...I guess the fact that the thing should be (bare minimum) an order of magnitude more powerful than its Thor 300 incarnation carries no weight with you against the Celestials...

:O

yes

The Destroyer in the original fight was powered by all the Skyfathers:

http://a.imageshack.us/img507/3113/thor30017bh8.jpg

I suppose adding in their respective pantheons would help them to better but can't really see anything changing.

only a small fraction of each skyfather was added.

it achieved nothing. objectively, it was about as much use as a braille porno mag.

The scan didn't say "small" fraction. Granted, it didn't say it was a large portion either, but considering it lasted as long as it did against them, I'd say it was.

it cut off a celestials arm. even if it did grow back it still has done what nothing short of the ig has ever done

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
it cut off a celestials arm. even if it did grow back it still has done what nothing short of the ig has ever done
it achieved nothing. did The Celestial feel pain? no, no signs whatsoever. did it even cause anything but its own destruction?


honestly, The Destroyer is a nice toy but it achieved the zenith of its career as a substitute herald for Galactus, it's done bugger all against cosmic powers, nothing to justify the hype, faith and cult of The Destroyer Armour.

there's plenty of crap built to combat The Celestials, that doesn't stand up to much when actually tested.

Originally posted by Cubey
The Destroyer in the original fight was powered by all the Skyfathers:

http://a.imageshack.us/img507/3113/thor30017bh8.jpg

I suppose adding in their respective pantheons would help them to better but can't really see anything changing.

Just to be clear, the Destroyer itself contains a fraction of each Skyfathers power...

However, the Destroyer is powered by spiritual energy...

Thus it was able to grow in size and power when Odin+all of Asgard (minus Thor) entered it spiritually...

As a result, as pertains this thread, the Destroyer would be VASTLY more powerful than in Thor 300 if it contained the spiritual energy of the all 19 Skyfathers+their entire pantheons...

Originally posted by janus77
nah, I doubt the pantheon put in to The Destroyer could achieve anything really. The Celestials weren't interested in fighting, their 'bodies' are hardly of any import whatsoever, they can reform without any effort, nothing much The Destroyer could do really.

You know, even though that is plainly stated in Thor 300, I am willing to bet that if the Destroyer was facing that Celestial one on one and had kept hacking away it would have won...

Seriously though, the Destroyer as it would be in this "What If," would be atleast an order of magnitude more powerful than the version of the Destroyer that fought the Celestials in Thor 300...

Is it inconcievable to you that the Destroyer, at such a high level of power, would be capable of harming the Celestials on more than just a physical level?

Celestials have limits afterall...they are not invincible of all-mighty...

I personally think the Destroyer was around a Celestial in power in 300. If there was a gap I don't think it was too large. The biggest problem with Celestials, is that short of destroying their entire body, you aren't doing anything to them actually with physical damage (At least in that story) It's not impossible to affect them with physical force. Thor gave Exitar pause with the power of the God Blast for example. But it was short lived and he attacked his brain dome. I just think Odin approached the battle incorrectly. I think Odin jobbed in that regard to make the Celestials look uber.

Anyways, the power of the Destroyer, would have grown with this much extra energy. Astronomically.

The Celestial's were intended to be the next step in the cosmic food chain at that period. Beyond beings such as Watchers, Odin Galactus etc. so I'm not too sure how this would turn out if it faces the entire Fourth Host. I however don't think it was beyond the Destroyer's capabilities to defeat a Celestial in it's original form. At least temporarily.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I personally think the Destroyer was around a Celestial in power in 300. If there was a gap I don't think it was too large. The biggest problem with Celestials, is that short of destroying their entire body, you aren't doing anything to them actually with physical damage (At least in that story) It's not impossible to affect them with physical force. Thor gave Exitar pause with the power of the God Blast for example. But it was short lived and he attacked his brain dome. I just think Odin approached the battle incorrectly. I think Odin jobbed in that regard to make the Celestials look uber.

Anyways, the power of the Destroyer, would have grown with this much extra energy. Astronomically.

The Celestial's were intended to be the next step in the cosmic food chain at that period. Beyond beings such as Watchers, Odin Galactus etc. so I'm not too sure how this would turn out if it faces the entire Fourth Host. I however don't think it was beyond the Destroyer's capabilities to defeat a Celestial in it's original form. At least temporarily.

100% agreed...

You know, when you start regarding beings on the comic level (assumming no jobbing is involved) a pure physical approach is very rarely the answer as virtually all beings on the cosmic level are beyond physical (or rather possess more than just a physical element; just about all of them possess an energy element too)...

But, thats when you know jobbing is in (or sometimes its simply very uncreative writters doing their dirt) full effect...

Case in point; when Galactus fought Agamotto, why in the hell did he believe (especially how sharp his cosmic awareness/perceptions are supposed to be) that he was facing a mere catapillar!? That was bulls**t stacked with pure bulls**t...he cosmic senses should have automatically alerted him to exactly what was infront of him and he should have reacted accordingly...

Same applies in this case; after absorbing so much power, I am certain that Odins senses would have grown considerably...and even assumming that the massive power increase wasnt enough to alert him to the fact that a pure physical approach wouldnt work, after the Destroyers initial attack failed, he should have completely abandoned physical attacks and started to fight on another level...

Surely with the Destroyer being as powerful as it was at the time of the battle, it could have brought the fight to the Celestials in any number of ways...but it didnt...it kept trying physical attacks...it other words, it started to job....just like Galactus did against Agamotto.

But, of course, its a writters job to make a story interesting...logic and consistency rate near the bottom on the totem pole compared to this...afterall, if the Invisible Woman could disrupt Exitar's physical form, then I absolutely believe the Destroyer could have done the same thing 1,000,000 times worse to all of them...

But in the case of Exitar, it was his turn to job...in Thor 300, it was the Destroyers turn to job to show off how bada** the Celestials were supposed to be...

I see Zeus and Odin as being a level above the rest and they are as inferior to a Celestial as IronFist is to Stardust.

just not got the power, the scope, the depth to take on this challenge.

Galactus - Aggamotto is a good example of jobbing on Galactus' part but, we need to acknowledge at some point that characters are subordinate to stories. Galactus, as fully realised through his whole history, would be an almost impossible to defeat foe. each time he shows up, the story would end inside of his 'belly'. you'd need the LT to reset things.

same with a few other high-end cosmics, therefore, you have to plot-device them and give them strange motivations/abberations in order to save the story.

as u said about the destroyer not doing anything to the celestials

galactus did nothing to agamotto, agamotto isnt a true physical being and he doesnt feel pain.
so galactus did nothing and was useless in his fight with agamotto

Originally posted by janus77
I see Zeus and Odin as being a level above the rest and they are as inferior to a Celestial as IronFist is to Stardust.

just not got the power, the scope, the depth to take on this challenge. not really, seth after absorbing people from his pantheon was busting galaxys
vishnu is also on the level
thers 14 more skyfathers after that

bump

Who needs the Destroyer (which held a fraction of the power of each of Earths' Skyfathers and was made of nigh indestructible metal) when you have a "simple" enchantment that can end Celestials with one hit?

Originally posted by zopzop
Who needs the Destroyer (which held a fraction of the power of each of Earths' Skyfathers and was made of nigh indestructible metal) when you have a "simple" enchantment that can end Celestials with one hit?
Exitar would like to have a word with you.

vin

Originally posted by abhilegend
Exitar would like to have a word with you.

vin
True. But by that point, it had already killed dozens (hundreds?) of Celestials.