Aquaman vs Captain America

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King Castle
1) AM vs steve rogers..




2) AM vs Bucky


3) AM vs US Agent.

who can Aquaman beat? pre zero hour aquaman and feats only..

tkitna
He probably beats all of them.

King Castle
i dont know... i think the shield bash can seriously hurt... AM...

Prep-Man
Is this all at the same time?

King Castle
if it were all three at once they murder AM...

Bentley
Arthur should win, isn't he faster than humans?

King Castle
yeh, "a" human...

but these humans are olympic, enhanced or peak plus high lvl fighting skills plus weapons.

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
yeh, "a" human...

but these humans are olympic, enhanced or peak plus high lvl fighting skills plus weapons.

Aquaman is superhuman, so he is even faster then enhanced human.

King Castle
so are the ppl cap has faced out fought and out reacted.. like namor and thunderstrike who have superhuman reaction time and speed.

Omega Vision
no expression

Aquaman stomps.

King Castle
captain america beats Arthur worse then sinister's namor clone.

you guys are aware we are using mid 90's aquaman, right?

Prep-Man
Aquaman, then.

King Castle
90's aquaman struggled with polar bears and even got beaten by batman..sneer

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
90's aquaman struggled with polar bears and even got beaten by batman..sneer

90's Aquaman also one-shotted Batman too.

Against the polar bear that was when he was a kid...literally.

King Castle
was he a kid when batman ko'ed him?

aquaman would get his head knocked off if us agent hit him.

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
was he a kid when batman ko'ed him?

aquaman would get his head knocked off if us agent hit him.

When did Batman ko him? Did you read the whole fight?

ORLY? He's taken pissed off punches from Wonder Woman and shrugged them off yet USAgent is going to knock his head off? Oh my.

Prep-Man
LOL!

King Castle
cap has taken hits from hulk, thor and thunderstrike and kept on truckin..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/1872592290_fa79f63bf0_o.jpg

-K-M-
Nice, so yet another thing you have taken out of context. Well at least your consistent.

King Castle
here batman stops a back hand cold.. he notices AM strength but aside from that not that impressive for arthur

http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV4_8batman.gif

god he was useless back then

http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV4_8big.gif

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
here batman stops a back hand cold.. he notices AM strength but aside from that not that impressive for arthur

http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV4_8batman.gif


Context again, Aquaman was weakened then as he got shot in the chest, as well as tried from previous battles and that was before his many upgrades. Also even notice Batman grabbed his hand afterwards and mentioned "I never knew he was this strong"

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
god he was useless back then

http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV4_8big.gif

Jesus context again, he won that fight pretty handily and he was weakened then as well. Seriously just stop erm

King Castle
which upgrades did he get prior to zero hour?

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
which upgrades did he get prior to zero hour?

He got the upgrades AFTER Zero Hour making your scans pretty moot.

Omega Vision
Will Swallow's DC hate is nearing critical mass.

King Castle
Originally posted by -K-M-
He got the upgrades AFTER Zero Hour making your scans pretty moot. but this is only pre zero hour aquaman hence why he is fighting these street lvlers... otherwise it would be a stomp for modern AM...

anyways did black manta have any physical stats other then human lvl?

Prep-Man
It's either Grodd or AM.

King Castle
PRE ZERO HOUR FEATS AND AQUAMAN ONLY

Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol. I don't think Shadow is purposely leaving out context. At least I hope.

It'd be fun to see Roger's beat the shit out of Aquaman. America > Atlantis.

The other two lose. Aquaman is well....Aquaman, but let's not go overboard.

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
but this is only pre zero hour aquaman hence why he is fighting these street lvlers... otherwise it would be a stomp for modern AM...

anyways did black manta have any physical stats other then human lvl?

Not going to lie, i didn't even see that part. However, as noted by Aquaman he was growing stronger the longer he stayed in the ocean as the pressure was making him stronger.

Depends on the era, when he first came out no but that was when AM was just a normal human that could swim. Then as AM got stronger Manta made his armor give him super strength. Black Manta even turned into a demonic being giving him even more strength and he has since reverted back and now combined his DNA with Aquaman giving him all AM's powers sans telepathy.

Prep-Man
AM isn't weaker in PZ hour. Not that I'm aware of.

King Castle
yes he is pre zero hour he was held in place by iron bars... even if he broke out later in it tells you what lvl of strength he really was at back in the early 70's to the 90's

http://www.7415comics.com/images/illustrations/adventure_478_8.jpg

Prep-Man
That's 90's? That shit looks pre-crisis. lol

-K-M-
Originally posted by Prep-Man
AM isn't weaker in PZ hour. Not that I'm aware of.

Nope, in fact around that time he was getting superhuman strength feats. Such as lifting alien submarines and commerical fishing boats

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
yes he is pre zero hour he was held in place by iron bars... even if he broke out later in it tills you what lvl of strength he really was at back in the early 90's

http://www.7415comics.com/images/illustrations/adventure_478_8.jpg

Uuuuuuh context again. Also not from the 90s. Seriously just stop

Originally posted by Prep-Man
That's 90's? That shit looks pre-crisis. lol

It's not from the 90's. Adventure #478 came out December 1980 making that pre-crisis

Prep-Man
I knew that wasn't Jim Lee!

King Castle
it was a small mini sub barely bigger then aquaman.... think of those scientific subs that are used to collect data..

good feat for aquaman but not that impressive either as a feat.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3853/1211939-aquaman5_super.jpg

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
it was a small mini sup barely bigger then aquaman.... think of those scientific subs that are used to collect data..

good feat for aquaman but not that impressive either as a feat.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3853/1211939-aquaman5_super.jpg

I'm not talking about that feat.

King Castle
Originally posted by -K-M-



It's not from the 90's. Adventure #478 came out December 1980 making that pre-crisis but, still usable b/c it was pre zero hour...

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
but, still usable b/c it was pre zero hour...

No it's not, because Aquaman changed because of the Crisis as many other characters did erm

Prep-Man
You should post the sub feat, KM

Spire
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Will Swallow's DC hate is nearing critical mass.

Ha!

-K-M-
Originally posted by Prep-Man
You should post the sub feat, KM

I would, but I'm on my laptop and all my scans are on my hard drive.

Even classic Aquaman pre-zero hour held up a 6+ story building that was on fire. I have this already scanned. Also before anyone asks this is a flashback of when AM first started out.
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/12.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/13.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/14.jpg
4. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/15.jpg
5. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/16.jpg

King Castle
but the change to aquaman was after zero hour...



which means anything leading up to him is just as usable.. so long as it is not after zero hour..


plus how strong do you thing aquaman really was as an adult?

keep in mind as a kid he was overpowered by a human and also as an adult constant physical fights with black manta..

http://tytempletonart.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/aquaman-1.jpg


also i wont lie i find it funny finding some crappy showings of aquaman b/c of the old jokes and the family guy episodes..



also Aquaman skin was pretty soft able to be chewed by piranhas

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/dcmoment59b.jpg

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
but the change to aquaman was after zero hour...

which means anything leading up to him is just as usable.. so long as it is not after zero hour..


Correct, and the scans I posted were Aquaman pre-zero hour.

Originally posted by King Castle
plus how strong do you thing aquaman really was as an adult?

keep in mind as a kid he was overpowered by a human and also as an adult constant physical fights with black manta..

http://tytempletonart.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/aquaman-1.jpg


Uuuuuuh...again with the context, that is when he was a kid. He didn't really develop his powers until adulthood as noted.

Originally posted by King Castle
also Aquaman skin was pretty soft able to be chewed by piranhas

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/dcmoment59b.jpg

Context again.

King Castle
i agree... dont make me start posting scans of him tied up under water by fishing nets?

http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV1_57pg13.gif
drylaugh
http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV1_57pg7.gif
i just wanted to show that this is a more manageable version of aquaman in this fight and these ppl have a good shot at winning or losing but that it isnt one sided.

http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2009images/FFAdv261ElectricEels.jpg

iceman24567
Aquaman easily

-Pr-
No pre-crisis scans full stop.

No bashing either guys. Warnings will be handed out if it persists.

psycho gundam
this thread actually kinda fails

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
i agree... dont make me start posting scans of him tied up under water by fishing nets?

http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV1_57pg13.gif
drylaugh
http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquamanV1_57pg7.gif
i just wanted to show that this is a more manageable version of aquaman in this fight and these ppl have a good shot at winning or losing but that it isnt one sided.

http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2009images/FFAdv261ElectricEels.jpg

Once again pre-crisis.

King Castle
pre zero hour...

was aquaman stuck to a rock and left to die pre zero hour?

-Pr-
Originally posted by -Pr-
No pre-crisis scans full stop.

King Castle
@PR

you should add this to your sensitivity training link as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2DxyAGzGxM

ankur29
AM

-Pr-
Originally posted by King Castle
@PR

you should add this to your sensitivity training link as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2DxyAGzGxM

i'm not going to try and take it back. someone else is better off.

King Castle
i tried a few times... ended up in jail and bruised charged with inciting violence... my self defense was used against me as assaulting them rather then defending myself and added charge of a hate crime.. no

anyways..

i think that Captain america can beat pre zero hour Aquaman at least 7/10 cap works for it.,

Bucky actually does just as well thx to the arm, shield gun and knife for close combat.. catch AM unaware. 8/10

UsAgent walks over AM

Prep-Man
Originally posted by ankur29
AM

namorsubby
Aquaman needs a KMC respect Thread.


Aquaman FTW.

-K-M-
Originally posted by namorsubby
Aquaman needs a KMC respect Thread.

Working on it.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by -K-M-
Working on it.
Work faster. Skip lunch if you have to. There are some fools that need educating.

-K-M-
Bah! This will be the biggest thread to date, and since it's so big I lose interest and take months off at times. I have already compiled thousands of scans.

Stoic
I like Cap but Aquaman is way out off his league, all I see is Cap running for his life, like Deathstroke.

King Castle
where DS kick failed caps shield bash will succeed.

-K-M-
I didn't see any stipulation, but is telepathy banned?

King Castle
pretty sure he didnt have the mind rape seizure thing prior to zero hour..

no expression

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
pretty sure he didnt have the mind rape seizure thing prior to zero hour..

no expression

No, but he had psy-blasts that made human/humanoid beings go under his control

Brain
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLAY1_06_19.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLAY1_06_20.jpg

Nuliajuk-mother of sea beasts
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AquaTT-03-18.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AquaTT-03-19.jpg

Vixen
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLA_v1_239-14.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLA_v1_239-15.jpg

Steel
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLA_v1_235-05.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/JLA_v1_235-07.jpg

etc.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by King Castle
where DS kick failed caps shield bash will succeed.
DS also had the aid of flashbang grenades, something Cap doesn't have. The grenade was the only reason DS could even get close enough to safely land a blow.

King Castle
the 1st scan isnt relevant it was a battle of wills over the GL ring..

the vixen one should he could cause some sort of discomfort but cap would have shield tossed him to disrupt it..

the third one in a fight no one would give him the time to pull it off plus the aggression of fighting i doubt he could if he wanted to.

basically none were immediant major problem in a fight

Omega Vision
Originally posted by King Castle
the 1st scan isnt relevant it was a battle of wills over the GL ring..

the vixen one should he could cause some sort of discomfort but cap would have shield tossed him to disrupt it..

the third one in a fight no one would give him the time to pull it off plus the aggression of fighting i doubt he could if he wanted to.

basically none were immediant major problem in a fight
http://www.brady-quinn.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/My-Poster.jpg

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
the 1st scan isnt relevant it was a battle of wills over the GL ring..

Which related to telepathy

Originally posted by King Castle
the vixen one should he could cause some sort of discomfort but cap would have shield tossed him to disrupt it..

Easier said then done.

.Originally posted by King Castle
the third one in a fight no one would give him the time to pull it off plus the aggression of fighting i doubt he could if he wanted to

The third one is the Vixen scans? what are you talking about? So removing someones killer instincts isn't an advantage in a fight. Also ummm...his telepathy is instant, so where you getting he wouldn't have time is beyond me.

Originally posted by King Castle
basically none were immediant major problem in a fight

lulz

King Castle
no.. but, i have to ask you to stop with those types of responses pls.. pls make a counter argument rather then post random scans to annoy and insult,..

-K-M-
Here's Aquaman controlling Superman's body
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DCComicsPresents48-19.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DCComicsPresents48-20.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DCComicsPresents48-21.jpg

Ordering multiple people to get out of range
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DoomPatrol1716.jpg

Flashback of his classic days where he made a human forget his memories
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/BraveandtheBold32021-1.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/BraveandtheBold32022-1.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/BraveandtheBold32023-1.jpg

etc.

King Castle
Originally posted by -K-M-
Which related to telepathy



Easier said then done.

.

The third one is the Vixen scans? what are you talking about? So removing someones killer instincts isn't an advantage in a fight. Also ummm...his telepathy is instant, so where you getting he wouldn't have time is beyond me.



lulz

in those scans it was clear that aquaman was not fighting anyone prepared to fight him or even aware.. not saying cap would be but he knows his own mind and in old scans AM had struggled with superman and asked him to let him in and not fight him.. still the one where they are having an argument is not indicative of being able to d it in a high speed fight when some one is tossing shields and moving and fighting.. it took some actual efforrt for aquaman to use his mind it isnt some Xavier lvl command where he just thinks it and they stop dead in their tracks..


again the GL one is irrelevent it was done through the ring and it was a battle of wills its bn replicated b4 not just by slade but other random aliens that have confronted and fought GL's more then once.

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
no.. but, i have to ask you to stop with those types of responses pls.. pls make a counter argument rather then post random scans to annoy and insult,..

Your telling someone not to post random scans, oh the irony. Have you forgotten the past couple pages with your scans?

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
in those scans it was clear that aquaman was not fighting anyone prepared to fight him or even aware.. not saying cap would be but he knows his own mind and in old scans AM had struggled with superman and asked him to let him in and not fight him.. still the one where they are having an argument is not indicative of being able to d it in a high speed fight when some one is tossing shields and moving and fighting.. it took some actual efforrt for aquaman to use his mind it isnt some Xavier lvl command where he just thinks it and they stop dead in their tracks..

again the GL one is irrelevent it was done through the ring and it was a battle of wills its bn replicated b4 not just by slade but other random aliens that have confronted and fought GL's more then once.

Because that would make a difference right as they all have psi-resitance right? No? then why even make that comment. That was AM before his telepathy boost too and yes that was pre zero hour. Lulz, he did every single one of this telepathy feats instantly, now apparently he wouldn't be fast enough? It took some effort? ORLY? Where are you basing this on? seriously all the scans I posted he did it with ease. So wait you have to be Xavier level telepath to be effective on Cap and co? Also he told them to stop in their tracks...and they did. Horrible point.

which he did because of his telepathy so your wrong

King Castle
Originally posted by -K-M-
Here's Aquaman controlling Superman's body
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DCComicsPresents48-19.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DCComicsPresents48-20.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DCComicsPresents48-21.jpg

Ordering multiple people to get out of range
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/DoomPatrol1716.jpg

Flashback of his classic days where he made a human forget his memories
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/BraveandtheBold32021-1.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/BraveandtheBold32022-1.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/BraveandtheBold32023-1.jpg

etc. the last one dont count not even for retelling purposes post zero hour scans and feats only.. even if it is being retold it was published yrs later after 94.

the second scan aquaman is ordering his atlantians or sea creature hominids... the superman scan was an unconscious superman.. he isnt doing that with a fully awake guy with strong will power.

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
the last one dont count not even for retelling purposes post zero hour scans and feats only.. even if it is being retold it was published yrs later after 94.

the second scan aquaman is ordering his atlantians or sea creature hominids... the superman scan was an unconscious superman.. he isnt doing that with a fully awake guy with strong will power.

You have an odd perspective, so you will accept pre-crisis scans when you shouldn't. Yet ignore scans, which are set before zero hour happened? Hypercrite is the word that comes to mind.

Humans actually, Sea Devils (an organization). and? He's probed and gotten into Superman's mind when he was awake too.

King Castle
here is the part in your own scan arthor stated even unconscious supe was resisting him.

http://namtab.com/aquablog/danmishkinDCCP.gif

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
here is the part in your own scan arthor stated even unconscious supe was resisting him.

http://namtab.com/aquablog/danmishkinDCCP.gif

Why did you post that? As I mentioned that was even before his tp boosts. Also as I mentioned earlier another time his telepathy has worked on Superman even when he was awake. So yes AM's telepathy would without a doubt work on Cap and co.

King Castle
what TP boost?

are you telling me that AM has to resort to TP to beat these guys or do you still think he can do it the old fashion way?

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
what TP boost?

are you telling me that AM has to resort to TP to beat these guys or do you still think he can do it the old fashion way?

Due to all the magical spells that were cast on him.

No, that's just one option you completly are ignoring. This just makes it easier. a) he could use his telepathy to flat out beat them b) use telepathy to disorient them and physically beat them c) physically beat them. Your choice.

King Castle
he can use it to disorient them if he can pull it off and if they dont respond with a shield toss and in bucky's case a bullet..

too much would be going on for a simple psi control win.

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
he can use it to disorient them if he can pull it off and if they dont respond with a shield toss and in bucky's case a bullet..

too much would be going on for a simple psi control win.

why are you assuming Cap could easily hit him? Also telepathy would work far faster then Cap's throw.

Not really, Cap is one dimensional while Aquaman has options. I didn't even get into how he can control animals not just aquatic but even land and air creatures.

namorsubby
None of these Cap's can beat Orin in a straight up fight. No need to even explore all of his other options.......

King Castle
small less intelligent animals with no real will to fight against..

and even then he has failed to control a polar bear in the past as well from how different it was from aquatic life and that it was mad..

and why talk about it humans arent dog or birds and in a forum fight none are around since it is generally a void room..

either way i think you misconstrued a telepathic general command to his troops as an actual TP i am taking full command of your body.. completely different.. its like xavier commanding his x men to report but not actually making them via psi powers more of a strict request

-Pr-
Originally posted by King Castle
small less intelligent animals with no real will to fight against..

and even then he has failed to control a polar bear in the past as well from how different it was from aquatic life and that it was mad..

and why talk about it humans arent dog or birds and in a forum fight none are around since it is generally a void room..

either way i think you misconstrued a telepathic general command to his troops as an actual TP i am taking full command of your body.. completely different.. its like xavier commanding his x men to report but not actually making them via psi powers more of a strict request

arthur has general telepathy. he stated that he could make sea life do what he wanted, but he chooses not to.

King Castle
i agree.. to the general term of sea life but more complicated evolved intelligent life like a fellow atlantean i think not.. imo

-Pr-
Originally posted by King Castle
i agree.. to the general term of sea life but more complicated evolved intelligent life like a fellow atlantean i think not.. imo

what about giving white martians seizures?

King Castle
that feat was well after 94 post zero hour.,,,

this is pre zero hour aquaman

-Pr-
Originally posted by King Castle
that feat was well after 94 post zero hour.,,,

this is pre zero hour aquaman

did aquaman get a substantial amp post zero hour with his telepathy?

-K-M-
Originally posted by King Castle
small less intelligent animals with no real will to fight against..

and even then he has failed to control a polar bear in the past as well from how different it was from aquatic life and that it was mad..

and why talk about it humans arent dog or birds and in a forum fight none are around since it is generally a void room..

either way i think you misconstrued a telepathic general command to his troops as an actual TP i am taking full command of your body.. completely different.. its like xavier commanding his x men to report but not actually making them via psi powers more of a strict request

What does intelligence have to deal with animals? Summoning hundreds of birds to attack one target it wont matter if the birds are dumb or not.

Wow, once again that was when he was a kid and didn't have the level of telepathy he does now. Also the fact it was only after the bear and when he fought the mother of sea beasts then did he hone his telepathy. Seriously are you taking things out of context on purpose? I love how you go just by low showings (and ignore the context) and ignore his high.

Because he has shown to control humans, aquatic creatures as well as land animals which all can be used in battle.

Which he has done. So your wrong...again.

What rule are you basing that on?

Deadline
^ White Martians as well, he also did a combined mental blast with MM against some mystical alien thingy.

King Castle
again this is pre zero hour hour feats only guys

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