Superman 1,000,000 vs Darkseid (Soulfire)
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Stoic
I've been wondering for a while what people would think about these two going all out, and who they believe would win. The Universe is the battlefield, and neither cares what or whom is destroyed in the process.
Gecko4lif
Darksied wins.
Fatality.
Stoic
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Darksied wins.
Fatality.
Based on what feats? DOTNG's made the Source look rather weak, if you were to go back and read it, and compare the destruction, and actual power that was displayed.
Gecko4lif
As opposed to the near featless wonder?
Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
As opposed to the near featless wonder?
Supes 1 million has comparable feats to pre-crisis Supes' high end feats...though not nearly as many..lol.
Gecko4lif
He has like 3 or 4 feats really
amnesia
DS wins Every single time.
Cubey
SF Darkseid rapes.
I love how people say DotNG made the Source look weak. In comparison to what exactly?
snazy
Originally posted by amnesia
DS wins Every single time.
based on what exactly? do you even know anything about superman 1 million? you sure you know even what superman the OP is talking about? do some homework
anyway superman 1 million wins its basically PC superman with 5 dimensional powers like mxy he rapes
iceman24567
Originally posted by snazy
based on what exactly? do you even know anything about superman 1 million? you sure you know even what superman the OP is talking about? do some homework
anyway superman 1 million wins its basically PC superman with 5 dimensional powers like mxy he rapes Nice debating troll
snazy
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nice debating troll
the very little reason i gave is more then anything anyone said in this entire thread troll and its more then anything you had to offer so either you say something or be quiet
iceman24567
I did say something
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nice debating troll
snazy
unless you got something subjective to say you dont worth any responding from me troll now begone
iceman24567
Originally posted by snazy
unless you got something subjective to say you dont worth any responding from me troll now begone Sorry don't understand troll language
snazy
Originally posted by iceman24567
Sorry don't understand troll language
you got inferiority complex or something? seing how every time i type something you must respond back and prove me something...
iceman24567
A troll and a hypocrite? Anyways Darkseid head kicks Superman dead
snazy
Originally posted by iceman24567
A troll and a hypocrite? Anyways Darkseid head kicks Superman dead
its not superman its kal kent and he will stomp darkseid and iceman at the same time
iceman24567
It is Superman wtf are you talking about? Iceman isn't in this fight and Darkseid sends Superman back to his own time headless
snazy
Originally posted by iceman24567
It is Superman wtf are you talking about? Iceman isn't in this fight and Darkseid sends Superman back to his own time headless
based onwhat? superman 1 million got physical strength of PC superman AKA galaxy sneezing superman andhe got 5 dimension powers including telepathy force field manipulation energy manipulation matter manipulation and his heat vision and breath can destroy a planet he is too powerful for darkseid
iceman24567
He didn't use half of those powers on panel so you fail at trying to argue for a basically featless Superman
. PC Superman would also lose to Soulfire Darkseid.
Stoic
Originally posted by Cubey
SF Darkseid rapes.
I love how people say DotNG made the Source look weak. In comparison to what exactly?
Ok in the Infinity Watch series we saw Adam Warlock in possession of the Infinity Gauntlet, and he was having a heart to heart with the Living Tribunal, their conversation alone was blowing Abstracts away like homes caught in an F5 tornado. I was lead to believe that these guys were operating on levels beyond the physical. Unlike Soulfire Darkseid and The Source Entity who at best made two worlds collide, or an Infinity Man powered by that same Source entity, who was physically challenged by a regular Superman, and appeared to have nearly been against the ropes. Now that within itself was quite a feat, but nothing about it indicated that they were omnipotents.
Darkseid himself while being juiced up to the gills with the power of all of the New Gods, reminded me of the Asgardian Destroyer when it was trashed by the 4th Celestial host. This is my comparison.
Jonah Hex
DS is like a heavyweight fighter
supes is like a featherweight fighter
DS wins
snazy
Originally posted by iceman24567
He didn't use half of those powers on panel so you fail at trying to argue for a basically featless Superman
. PC Superman would also lose to Soulfire Darkseid.
featles superman? before you try make fun of someone make sure YOU dont look stupid because you see its not the golden superman prime who doesnt have any feats but its superman 1 million kal kent who while being depowered to the point he lost almost all his powers he broke the time barrier punched 853 centeries into the time and stopped a galaxy from moving with his force vision so do your homework before you will look again like a coon
iceman24567
Originally posted by snazy
featles superman? before you try make fun of someone make sure YOU dont look stupid because you see its not the golden superman prime who doesnt have any feats but its superman 1 million kal kent who while being depowered to the point he lost almost all his powers he broke the time barrier punched 853 centeries into the time and stopped a galaxy from moving with his force vision so do your homework before you will look again like a coon You moron i know which Superman we are using do you deny he has a hand full of feats? All his feats were posted on one page in the Justice League million respect thread from what i remember keep going troll but this almost featless Superman loses to one of the most powerful incarnations of Darkseid to date
iceman24567
Originally posted by Stoic
Ok in the Infinity Watch series we saw Adam Warlock in possession of the Infinity Gauntlet, and he was having a heart to heart with the Living Tribunal, their conversation alone was blowing Abstracts away like homes caught in an F5 tornado. I was lead to believe that these guys were operating on levels beyond the physical. Unlike Soulfire Darkseid and The Source Entity who at best made two worlds collide, or an Infinity Man powered by that same Source entity, who was physically challenged by a regular Superman, and appeared to have nearly been against the ropes. Now that within itself was quite a feat, but nothing about it indicated that they were omnipotents.
Darkseid himself while being juiced up to the gills with the power of all of the New Gods, reminded me of the Asgardian Destroyer when it was trashed by the 4th Celestial host. This is my comparison. Infinite Man had no reason to fight Superman if Clark were a New God IM would have gutted him aswell. As for the collateral damage argument
Galan007
Darkseid. Effortlessly.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Galan007
Darkseid. Effortlessly. Exactly
snazy
Originally posted by iceman24567
You moron i know which Superman we are using do you deny he has a hand full of feats? All his feats were posted on one page in the Justice League million respect thread from what i remember keep going troll but this almost featless Superman loses to one of the most powerful incarnations of Darkseid to date
you idiot he didnt have many feats because he didnt have many apearences he was like in 3 issues or something what a moron you are and still he displayed too much power they had to depower him he will destroy darkseid
iceman24567
Originally posted by snazy
you idiot he didnt have many feats because he didnt have many apearences he was like in 3 issues or something what a moron you are and still he displayed too much power they had to depower him he will destroy darkseid You are a comedian of the highest caliber almost Masterbruce level
Stoic
Hey Ice, and Galan you guys have to admit that if power output is the scale to determine how powerful a character is, the Source entity and Soulfire Darkseid were below what happened in the Infinity Watch between Warlock, and the Living Tribunal. Superman 1,000,000's feats seemed more impressive by comparison. Just my 2 cents.
Uriel005
Originally posted by iceman24567
You moron i know which Superman we are using do you deny he has a hand full of feats? All his feats were posted on one page in the Justice League million respect thread from what i remember keep going troll but this almost featless Superman loses to one of the most powerful incarnations of Darkseid to date
I just wanted to say if DC 1 mil Supes only has a limited number of feats and they are 99% over the top high end and he is supposed to be at least Mxy level which the Joker used for all intents and purposes to wreck the universe several times over, then what exactly gives SF Darkseid an advantage over him... Please specify, I'm not claiming one way or another but from what I've read so far all anyone is posting for SF is that he kicks in supes head without saying anything else. Also OP said that collateral damage was not an issue so if Supes has Mxy power then he could just turn off the universe to beat SF.
Galan007
I'd put Superman M* around Infinity Man's level.
SF Darkseid >g_infinity IM.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Uriel005
I just wanted to say if DC 1 mil Supes only has a limited number of feats and they are 99% over the top high end and he is supposed to be at least Mxy level which the Joker used for all intents and purposes to wreck the universe several times over, then what exactly gives SF Darkseid an advantage over him... Please specify, I'm not claiming one way or another but from what I've read so far all anyone is posting for SF is that he kicks in supes head without saying anything else. Also OP said that collateral damage was not an issue so if Supes has Mxy power then he could just turn off the universe to beat SF. From what i remember Supes 1mil didn't show any Mxy like powers so i hardly think it matters on panel feats is what matters most to me.
Galan007
Originally posted by Uriel005
I just wanted to say if DC 1 mil Supes only has a limited number of feats and they are 99% over the top high end and he is supposed to be at least Mxy level which the Joker used for all intents and purposes to wreck the universe several times over, then what exactly gives SF Darkseid an advantage over him... Please specify, I'm not claiming one way or another but from what I've read so far all anyone is posting for SF is that he kicks in supes head without saying anything else. Also OP said that collateral damage was not an issue so if Supes has Mxy power then he could just turn off the universe to beat SF. Superman doesn't have Mxy's powers. He only has 10 additional 5d senses. If he had Mxy's power, traveling to the 853rd century, defeating Solaris, slowing the forward movement of a galaxy, etc. wouldn't have been difficult in the slightest.
Stop teh wank-fest.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Galan007
Superman doesn't have Mxy's powers. He only has 10 additional 5d senses. If he had Mxy's power, traveling to the 853rd century, defeating Solaris, slowing the forward movement of a galaxy, etc. wouldn't have been difficult in the slightest.
Stop teh wank-fest.
Uriel005
My apologies then. But still I would like to see some feats from SF because I'm only aware of a few of his feats and the ones I know probably aren't his high end.
Uriel005
I mean in Death of the New Gods Not being able to just take the power from Jimmy??
Galan007
^ Wrong arc. In DotNG Darkseid did usurp the powers of every New God (hundreds of thousands.)
Cubey
Originally posted by Stoic
Ok in the Infinity Watch series we saw Adam Warlock in possession of the Infinity Gauntlet, and he was having a heart to heart with the Living Tribunal, their conversation alone was blowing Abstracts away like homes caught in an F5 tornado. I was lead to believe that these guys were operating on levels beyond the physical. Unlike Soulfire Darkseid and The Source Entity who at best made two worlds collide, or an Infinity Man powered by that same Source entity, who was physically challenged by a regular Superman, and appeared to have nearly been against the ropes. Now that within itself was quite a feat, but nothing about it indicated that they were omnipotents.
Darkseid himself while being juiced up to the gills with the power of all of the New Gods, reminded me of the Asgardian Destroyer when it was trashed by the 4th Celestial host. This is my comparison.
Because neither of them were TRYING to blow up the universe, possibly?
See if every character that was capable of destroying planets and stars always went around doing that, it wouldn't exactly match the purpose of whatever story the author has in mind.
Displaying power had nothing to do with DotNG's plot, hence it didn't happen. But we already know that Ares with the God Wave (a mere portion of the Source's power) is universal, so that's enough to say about the Source.
Omega Vision
Superman One-Million, a guy who might be a Skyfather vs a version of Darkseid who made the Source his *****.
Jeez this is a toughie.
Black bolt z
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman One-Million, a guy who might be a Skyfather vs a version of Darkseid who made the Source his *****.
Jeez this is a toughie.
Tron
Originally posted by iceman24567
You moron i know which Superman we are using do you deny he has a hand full of feats? All his feats were posted on one page in the Justice League million respect thread from what i remember keep going troll but this almost featless Superman loses to one of the most powerful incarnations of Darkseid to date
How about we try to have a nice, civil debate like adults?
Thank you.
BattleMage
Originally posted by iceman24567
You are a comedian of the highest caliber almost Masterbruce level
amnesia
Originally posted by Tron
How about we try to have a nice, civil debate like adults?
Thank you.
He called iceman a coon. I think that's pretty offensive.
snazy
Originally posted by amnesia
He called iceman a coon. I think that's pretty offensive.
you call people trolls for no reason you are the last one who can open his mouth about that
and kal kent wins he displayed too many planet busting powers, he can use his telepathy and force vision to destroy darkseid and even without all his fansy powers he is the fastest superman there is he is faster then a speeding tachyon its several times faster then speed of light he actually was able to be at several places at the same time he is too fast and powerful overall
amnesia
^ Coon is a racial slang.
You seemed like a troll, turned out you where just stupid.
I'm going to ignore you now...
WhiteWitchKing
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snazy
Originally posted by amnesia
^ Coon is a racial slang.
You seemed like a troll, turned out you where just stupid.
I'm going to ignore you now...
coon = someone dumb, and seriously the only one who is acting like a troll over here is you, to tell you the truth every single thread when people discuss some fight you never have anything to say or contribute the only thing you know is calling people trolls and reporting them for no reason if something you are the only troll here that doesnt even worth any responding from now on you worth absolutely nothing
Gecko4lif
Originally posted by snazy
coon = someone dumb
No. It is a racial slur.
snazy
anyway lets get back to the topic and stop trolling this thread
superman 1 million for the win too fast and overall powerful
Omega Vision
Originally posted by snazy
anyway lets get back to the topic and stop trolling this thread
superman 1 million for the win too fast and overall powerful
This thread smells bad. Must be all the talking out of your ass you're doing.
Oh well, Darkseid still wins because Kal Kent has no feats that would even allow him to take Odin for a majority let alone someone who beat the Source.
snazy
Originally posted by Omega Vision
This thread smells bad. Must be all the talking out of your ass you're doing.
Oh well, Darkseid still wins because Kal Kent has no feats that would even allow him to take Odin for a majority let alone someone who beat the Source.
this thread smells bad because of the bullshit comming out of your mouth, kal kent while being depowered to the point he almost lost all his powers broke the time barrier and punched his way 853 centeries into the future that alone puts him above odin and darkseid he also stopped a galaxy from moving with his force vision.. you bulldhit and odin wanking makes this thread cry begone now
Omega Vision
Originally posted by snazy
this thread smells bad because of the bullshit comming out of your mouth, kal kent while being depowered to the point he almost lost all his powers broke the time barrier and punched his way 853 centeries into the future that alone puts him above odin and darkseid he also stopped a galaxy from moving with his force vision.. you bulldhit and odin wanking makes this thread cry begone now
First off you need to check your tone and improve your grammar. Run-on sentences and blatant hostility won't make anyone respect your opinion.
Second off Kal Kent's feats are at best worthy of Skyfather status whereas SF Darkseid defeated an Abstract and would have controlled the entire Universe had his plan not been foiled.
The Source is one of the most powerful beings in the DCU, far above the likes of Kal Kent and SF Darkseid trapped him and had him at his mercy.
SF DS one-shots the hyperbolic scion of Superman.
Also third off how am I "Odin wanking"? Because I made a statement of fact that Odin has better feats than Kal Kent?
snazy
Originally posted by Omega Vision
First off you need to check your tone and improve your grammar. Run-on sentences and blatant hostility won't make anyone respect your opinion.
Second off Kal Kent's feats are at best worthy of Skyfather status whereas SF Darkseid defeated an Abstract and would have controlled the entire Universe had his plan not been foiled.
The Source is one of the most powerful beings in the DCU, far above the likes of Kal Kent and SF Darkseid trapped him and had him at his mercy.
SF DS one-shots the hyperbolic scion of Superman.
Also third off how am I "Odin wanking"? Because I made a statement of fact that Odin has better feats than Kal Kent?
dude maybe my spelling and grammar isnt that good but at least i can understand what people say unlike you where you cant understand that kal kent did all that while losing almost all his powers and at full power he was about to kill solaris which is a planet being that could destroy galaxies and bring apocalypse so before you open your mouth learn to read what people say and dont be a hypocrite since you started with the trolling
Omega Vision
Originally posted by snazy
dude maybe my spelling and grammar isnt that good but at least i can understand what people say unlike you where you cant understand that kal kent did all that while losing almost all his powers and at full power he was about to kill solaris which is a planet being that could destroy galaxies and bring apocalypse so before you open your mouth learn to read what people say and dont be a hypocrite since you started with the trolling
Solaris was also defeated by a Green Lantern Ring. vin
Are you just ignorant of what kind of feat binding the Source is? Because nothing Kal Kent did can come close to that.
Stoic
Just wanted to say something, it has always been stated that the Source was the shyt, but his showing against Darkseid (Soulfire) seemed pretty weak in comparison to things acheived in Marevel by Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. I was left feeling a bit disappointed, and had to laugh it off as the Source entity was defeated so easily by a pantheon of New Gods. As I stated earlier, this sum of power is impressive but it can hardly be called omnipotent universe shifting power. To add to this and make it look more like hyperbole, Darkseid was defeated, whereas a true omnipotent would have the cosmos begging for quarter.
Was it hip or just hype?
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Stoic
Just wanted to say something, it has always been stated that the Source was the shyt, but his showing against Darkseid (Soulfire) seemed pretty weak in comparison to things acheived in Marevel by Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. I was left feeling a bit disappointed, and had to laugh it off as the Source entity was defeated so easily by a pantheon of New Gods. As I stated earlier, this sum of power is impressive but it can hardly be called omnipotent universe shifting power. To add to this and make it look more like hyperbole, Darkseid was defeated, whereas a true omnipotent would have the cosmos begging for quarter.
Was it hip or just hype?
Consider this. Infinity Man is a Trans-Skyfather character. IM is the product of five pitifully weak New Gods combining into one. Darkseid explained that even though individually they were weak when combined they created a power much greater than the sum of their parts.
SF Darkseid wielded the power of the entire New God race, thousands of New God souls (many of them much more powerful than the Forever People who made Infinity Man) combined into one exponentially more powerful whole. SF Darkseid was Infinity Man to the Millionth Power. That's not power to laugh at.
Stoic
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Consider this. Infinity Man is a Trans-Skyfather character. IM is the product of five pitifully weak New Gods combining into one. Darkseid explained that even though individually they were weak when combined they created a power much greater than the sum of their parts.
SF Darkseid wielded the power of the entire New God race, thousands of New God souls (many of them much more powerful than the Forever People who made Infinity Man) combined into one exponentially more powerful whole. SF Darkseid was Infinity Man to the Millionth Power. That's not power to laugh at.
But as a testament of such power, they did little to even rip the fabric of comic book time space continuity, all that they did was make two plantets merge into one. Not a feat beyond Galactus' scope.
To say that Soulfire Darkseid was a base Darkseid to the 7th power is pushing it, and he would still be beneath the power exibited by Thanos with the infinity Gauntlet, or the Living Tribunal. I say this based solely on feats.
Loads of people that subscribe to the hype of the Source, being this and that need to prove one thing, where are the Sources feats outside of hyperbole and rhetoric? It/he have none to claim true omnipotentance.
The Source powered Infinity Man could only be weighed by his battle with Superman, and I wasn't overly impressed. No one can truly say how much power the Source granted the Infinity Man, and he was on the losing end of the scuffle that he had with Superman, he had to resort to containing Superman in order to finish what he began with the New Gods. I only saw the Infinity Man kill the other New Gods based on stealth and off panel evidence with the exception of Orion, which I might add was also off panel.
Where did The Source Entity warp the fabric of reality, where was he seen as having uitimate power, was he an Abstract being? This I have no doubt of, but the Stranger could also be counted as an Abstract.
Here's a question, how long do you think that it would take for the Classic Beyonder to destroy two planets filled with New Gods? Do you believe that such a feat would be beyond his scope of power?
Cubey
Didn't Darkseid also absorb hundreds of thousands of other aliens' Gods as well?
snazy
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Solaris was also defeated by a Green Lantern Ring. vin
Are you just ignorant of what kind of feat binding the Source is? Because nothing Kal Kent did can come close to that.
if you would actually read that comics and didnt just look at the preety pictures you would see that green lanters was trying to stop solaris with his ring but almost died before kal kent saved him and took on solaris and then superman prime 1 million took the ring and the ring + the powers of superman prime 1 million destroyed solaris ... contex is your friend
Omega Vision
Originally posted by snazy
if you would actually read that comics and didnt just look at the preety pictures you would see that green lanters was trying to stop solaris with his ring but almost died before kal kent saved him and took on solaris and then superman prime 1 million took the ring and the ring + the powers of superman prime 1 million destroyed solaris ... contex is your friend
Superman-Prime One Million's superior will was what gave him the edge versus the previous wielder, doesn't change the fact that it was still a Green Lantern Ring that wtfpwned Solaris.
Galan007
Originally posted by Cubey
Didn't Darkseid also absorb hundreds of thousands of other aliens' Gods as well? I don't think so. Regardless, all it takes is combining 5 lesser New Gods, and you get Infinity Man (the sum >> the individual parts.) So can you imagine the power Darkseid unlocked upon combining hundreds of thousands of New Gods (both lesser and greater) within himself?
No wonder he had Source-level powa.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think so. Regardless, all it takes is combining 5 lesser New Gods, and you get Infinity Man (the sum >> the individual parts.) So can you imagine the power Darkseid unlocked upon combining hundreds of thousands of New Gods (both lesser and greater) within himself?
No wonder he had Source-level powa.
I think what he's referring to is how Darkseid (regular mind you) had spent the last millennium slaying entire pantheons of Gods across the cosmos and stealing their power.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Galan007
Ah. Gotcha.
Another example of how Darkseid is unfathomably more powerful outside of Superman comics than he is inside. g_serious
Cubey
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think so. Regardless, all it takes is combining 5 lesser New Gods, and you get Infinity Man (the sum >> the individual parts.) So can you imagine the power Darkseid unlocked upon combining hundreds of thousands of New Gods (both lesser and greater) within himself?
No wonder he had Source-level powa.
That truly is unfathomable. I mean Ares alone with the God Wave is universal. So yeah, that's frickin powerful.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think what he's referring to is how Darkseid (regular mind you) had spent the last millennium slaying entire pantheons of Gods across the cosmos and stealing their power.
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snazy
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman-Prime One Million's superior will was what gave him the edge versus the previous wielder, doesn't change the fact that it was still a Green Lantern Ring that wtfpwned Solaris.
first of all the things you just stated came straight out of your ass you made this up, second of all green lanters was trying to stop solaris and he couldnt he almost died then kal kent saved him and prime 1 million with the ring destroyed solaris which shows us prime 1 million needed the ring + his powers to defeatd solaris
Harbinger
This is four pages?
Yeah, Soulfire Darkseid stomps.
Lord_Talron
wow you guys are idiots. dont you realize this is SUPERMAN vs DARKSEID? superman wins every time.
iceman24567
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
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