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Aronofsky's next film; I'm so pumped for it.

Trailer - http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/08/17/movie-trailer-darren-aronofskys-black-swan/

Plot synopsis - "A New York City ballet company is producing Swan Lake, and director Thomas Leroy (Cassel) decides to replace prima ballerina Beth MacIntyre (Ryder) with ballerina Nina (Portman). Nina lives with Erica (Hershey), her overbearing mother and a former ballerina. Nina finds competition in new dancer Lily (Kunis). Swan Lake requires a ballerina who can play the innocent White Swan, which fits Nina, and the sensual Black Swan, which fits Lily. The dancers' rivalry changes into a bizarre friendship, and Nina begins exploring a dark side of herself."

Cast:
Natalie Portman as Nina
Mila Kunis as Lily
Winona Ryder as Beth MacIntyre
Vincent Cassel as Thomas Leroy
Barbara Hershey as Erica
Kristina Anapau as Galina
Toby Hemingway as Tom
Sebastian Stan
Janet Montgomery as Madeline

Gets a wide (or at least wider) release December 1, 2010.

Currently my most anticipated film. Seriously looking forward to this.

Yep, it looks AMAZING!! Big fan of Vincent Cassell, good to see him in a bigger role outside of France. Fantastic actor. Been waiting for this film for a long time. I got a Red Shoes and Suspiria vibe from the trailer, that can't be bad at all.

I see in the link it mentions the tone is in the same realm as Polanski's The Tenant, and Rosemary's Baby. Oooo what a mix.

Is it just me or is Vincent Cassell ONLY capable of playing really really creepy roles?

Anyway, I was excited for this film the moment I heard about it, due to the fact that I'm a fan of Aronofsky, but the trailer really increased my excitement. Looks amazing indeed.

Haven't seen Red Shoes or Suspiria.

In American films he tends to play that role. But his home country films are more varied, not a lot of 'comedic' uplifting roles, but not all really really creepy in the slightest.

Gotcha. I'll have to check some more of his films out. I guess just all of the ones I've seen him in he plays a rapist, low-life, etc. and when I see him I just get that vibe.

It might change, he plays Otto Gross in the new Cronenberg film Dangerous Method, from what I've read of the real life psychoanalyst, he wasn't a creep.

At first, I thought it was a like a more mature version of "step up". And I was like, "lame. "

But den, I saw Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis kissing and den I was like, "SCWHING!"



There had better be some gruesome 187s in this film or it won't be worth watchin, imo.

He played a rapist in Derailed. But he wasn't really, it was a set up with his girlfriend .

Yeah, Derailed is what I was thinking.

Originally posted by MildPossession
He played a rapist in Derailed. But he wasn't really, it was a set up with his girlfriend . Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Yeah, Derailed is what I was thinking.
Oh, never saw that.

Okay, just saw this - I really, really liked it. Natalie Portman gives probably her best performance yet, the atmosphere is palpable, appropriately operatic and thematically, this movie is very similar to Aronofsky's last film - The Wrestler. But whereas Rourke's character was seeking some sort of redemption, Portman's in Black Swan is striving for perfection. If you're a fan of Aronofsky or Portman, go see it.

Will likely still watch this, as I was intrigued the first time I read about, but when I saw the preview about a month ago (when watching Conviction); it seemed like one of those movie where you get everything you need to know about the story just for the 3min preview.

This looks so INTENSE... due to lack of funds I'll probably have to NetFlix it, but it is on Teh List.

Yeah I will see this.

Watched this on Saturday. I really liked it and it is probably my favorite Aronofsky film thus far. It met, and slightly exceeded my expectations (which were pretty high).

Originally posted by Myth
Watched this on Saturday. I really liked it and it is probably my favorite Aronofsky film thus far. It met, and slightly exceeded my expectations (which were pretty high).

Dang. I guess I'll see this after all.

Natalie's and Mila's sex scene is the best part of this movie. I found the psychological thriller parts were fine but came slowly and was bored in-between them.

I'll be watching this tonight after I get back from the gym, but if the best this flick has to offer is some faux-lesbian sex, then I fear my thoughts above about the film are true.

Hopefully I'll be shown to be wrong.

Really good movie, saw it while i was on a cloud so it made things extra intense at times. The masturbation seen was hilarious! A little slow at parts but overall a fantastic flim.

Pretentious garbage, basically all it was. Though I was wrong in my previous statement, there is more to the film than the 3min preview suggest, any of it isn't good.

Vincent Cassell did a good role, but that doesn't save the film.

just got back from seeing this..

what a waste of time.. this film is total shiite.. horribly acted.. cheesy cgi effects and various scenes are very very funny

The old pervert on the train made me laugh. But that was 30 seconds.

Originally posted by D-Wag
Really good movie, saw it while i was on a cloud so it made things extra intense at times. The masturbation seen was hilarious! A little slow at parts but overall a fantastic flim.



Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
just got back from seeing this..

what a waste of time.. this film is total shiite.. horribly acted.. cheesy cgi effects and various scenes are very very funny

Oh man, this movie sounds so worth it, now. I can't wait to see it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Pretentious garbage, basically all it was. Though I was wrong in my previous statement, there is more to the film than the 3min preview suggest, any of it isn't good.

Vincent Cassell did a good role, but that doesn't save the film.

Care to expand on what made it pretentious?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
just got back from seeing this..

what a waste of time.. this film is total shiite.. horribly acted.. cheesy cgi effects and various scenes are very very funny

Horribly acted? Umm. I don't even know what to say, Natalie Portman was fantastic, as was the rest of the entire freaking cast.

Originally posted by dadudemon




Oh man, this movie sounds so worth it, now. I can't wait to see it.

you might like it..



edit to my previous post. i hope the wolverine sequel is better

Nats best acting is when she did her sex scene. Jackie did a better acting job overall.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Care to expand on what made it pretentious?



Horribly acted? Umm. I don't even know what to say, Natalie Portman was fantastic, as was the rest of the entire freaking cast.
Saw it last night and I agree. Natalie Portman was fantastic! I was blown away when she performed as the Black Swan. She was a whole different dancer/woman in that dance. I thought it was an amazing performance. Couldnt beieve how skinny Natalie got for this role.

But she didnt pull off the psychological thriller part well though. Its fine that she the did physical part well but the mental part wasnt great. And thats needed just as much if not more.

Someone said horrid acting? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, what a load of rubbish.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Care to expand on what made it pretentious?


The psychological aspect of a woman going insane due to being possessed by a dance and transformation from 'light-to-dark' failed horribly. Portman's not a bad actress, but here, it was meh. How many times do we endure that same unconvincing look of desperation? Countless. We get it.

The girl-girl sex scene served no real purpose except as 'look, we have two hot chicks f--king, look.' Which is fine and all, but it is what it is.

So that, film tried to be more than it was and it failed.

can't believe you foo's paid $10 for a ticket to this garbage when there's free porn on the internet. for shame.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Aronofsky's next film; I'm so pumped for it.

Trailer - http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/08/17/movie-trailer-darren-aronofskys-black-swan/

Plot synopsis - "A New York City ballet company is producing Swan Lake, and director Thomas Leroy (Cassel) decides to replace prima ballerina Beth MacIntyre (Ryder) with ballerina Nina (Portman). Nina lives with Erica (Hershey), her overbearing mother and a former ballerina. Nina finds competition in new dancer Lily (Kunis). Swan Lake requires a ballerina who can play the innocent White Swan, which fits Nina, and the sensual Black Swan, which fits Lily. The dancers' rivalry changes into a bizarre friendship, and Nina begins exploring a dark side of herself."

Cast:
Natalie Portman as Nina
Mila Kunis as Lily
Winona Ryder as Beth MacIntyre
Vincent Cassel as Thomas Leroy
Barbara Hershey as Erica
Kristina Anapau as Galina
Toby Hemingway as Tom
Sebastian Stan
Janet Montgomery as Madeline

Gets a wide (or at least wider) release December 1, 2010.

This cast list alone of Natalie Portman,Winona Ryder and Barbara Hershey in it alone makes me want to see this film.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Care to expand on what made it pretentious?



Horribly acted? Umm. I don't even know what to say, Natalie Portman was fantastic, as was the rest of the entire freaking cast.

Originally posted by MildPossession
Someone said horrid acting? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, what a load of rubbish.


if the two of you can't take another person's opinion that is a load of rubbish hahahahaha

Portman is a much better actress than this piece of shiite...

Kunis went to the Megan Fox school of acting..

Originally posted by Robtard
The psychological aspect of a woman going insane due to being possessed by a dance and transformation from 'light-to-dark' failed horribly. Portman's not a bad actress, but here, it was meh. How many times do we endure that same unconvincing look of desperation? Countless. We get it.

The girl-girl sex scene served no real purpose except as 'look, we have two hot chicks f--king, look.' Which is fine and all, but it is what it is.

So that, film tried to be more than it was and it failed.

spot on rob, spot on..

Originally posted by marwash22
can't believe you foo's paid $10 for a ticket to this garbage when there's free porn on the internet. for shame.

i didn't pay to see this garbage, i saw it at a screening room

It's times like this I'm at a loss for words. Movies on this forum like ****in' G.I. Joe and Transformers get praised, while quality flicks are being dumped on, I just don't get it.

Rob, your opinion is fair enough - although I think the film didn't fail, it succeeded admirably in conveying what one goes through in trying to attain perfection. And also what happens when someone has years of stifled sexuality, and not just sexuality but freedom in general due to her homelife, career, personality, etc. If you felt a film tried to be more than it was, I'd say that's ambitious, not pretentious but that's just me.

And Natalie Portman WAS fantastic; I can't stress this enough. Not only the physicality of the role (the dancing, losing weight, her form) but we see a huge range of emotions on display - unbridled joy, pure desperation (like Rob said!), rage, madness, pride and an extremely effective portrayal of low self-esteem. I don't think you guys realize what a tough role this was and how well she pulled it off.

Oh and did I mention the score? Mansell knocked it out of the park again.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
It's times like this I'm at a loss for words. Movies on this forum like ****in' G.I. Joe and Transformers get praised, while quality flicks are being dumped on, I just don't get it.

I would say that a majority on this forum did not praise Transformers nor GI Joe.



Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Oh and did I mention the score? Mansell knocked it out of the park again.

Noted.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
It's times like this I'm at a loss for words. Movies on this forum like ****in' G.I. Joe and Transformers get praised, while quality flicks are being dumped on, I just don't get it.



the thing is everyone here is going to like and hate what they want.. you have an opinion.. I have an opinion.. Rob has an opinion.. DDM has an opinion and so on and so forth..

Brothers is great acting, she didnt do well in this psychological thriller.

Well someone knows shit all about acting... - not you Nuul.

Just because Snakeyes is wrong 67% of the time, it doesn't mean that you can call him out like that, Mild!

I can't tell if you were joking there... my response wasn't to SnakeEyes. :P

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Just because Snakeyes is wrong 67% of the time, it doesn't mean that you can call him out like that, Mild!

You must have blond hair.

You must be Canadian.

-sizzle-

This movie was excellent.

Pretty shocking that people think the acting here is terrible. It was across the board excellent. Portman deserves all the praise she's getting. Her performance was really affecting and carried the emotional weight of the film. Watching her descend from a sweet and naive girl into a psychotic self destructive force was very chilling and made complete sense since the film makes perfectly clear that she's been having such tendencies in the past, just on a much smaller scope. It was the best performance of her career by a huge margin. Cassel was also excellent, and Kunis was solid as well, though her role was the most straightforward by far.

Not sure what was pretentious about it. It is a melodrama, that's what it tried to be and that's exactly what it was. It was also pretty damn creepy.

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Go away.

Originally posted by BackFire
This movie was excellent.

Watching her descend from a sweet and naive girl into a psychotic self destructive force.


See, I thought she didnt act this part well.

She has better acting in Brothers.

Originally posted by The Nuul
She has better acting in Brothers.

Closer too.

See also looked smoking hot in that one, nothing like the twig she was in this one, but I understand the weight loss was for the role.

Her acting in Brothers was competent but much shallower. She had to pretty much play two characters in Black Swan while still remaining grounded with enough nuance to not waver too far in one direction or the other and remain singular.

She has never done anything requiring the depth that was needed in Black Swan.

Heavily disagree.

She had to pretend to be swooned by Hayden Christenson's god awful dialogue in AotC. That takes some srs talent.

Hahaha. I can't argue with that.

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Yeah i was quite good, Winona Ryder was excellent.

I just saw this movie. I loved it. I could really relate to the characters since I've been a ballerina for about 16 years. You can understand why she is feelIng the way she is. I really enjoyed it. I loved the fact natlie and mila trained in the art as well. It was simply breathtaking

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I hate this movie! Worst movie since Avatar

Originally posted by jcvaldez
I hate this movie! Worst movie since Avatar

You make a compelling argument.

Black swan is a fantastic movie. This is a drama and great thriller movie, I saw this movie again and again.

Someone is an idiot in this topic.

Originally posted by Myth
You make a compelling argument.

I wasn't trying to make an argument... just a statement.

I did not enjoy this movie. It was very disturbing. With that said, it's one of the best films I've seen this year.

It is kind of pointless with the sex scene and the like but when she starts to turn the movie gets very intriguing. Creepy stuff. Much better than the last two films I've seen at the cinema; Tron Legacy and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. So, for that alone, I was very happy.

i was skeptical with this movie at first.. i mean, a movie about a ballerina, who plays a girl, who turns into a suicidal swan and its whore swan twin.. who knew?!? this movie was one of the few that i really, really enjoyed.. it is quite disturbing and creepy, but that was the whole point of the movie.. to illustrate how one thing can change a person, especially one who has an obsessive tendency.. highly recommended.. watch it.. hell, watch it twice..

Fantastic movie, loved Natalie Portman although I have been a huge fan of hers for years now. I found it incredibly intense, the music was superb and although I've seen comments about it not being creepy enough and 'boring' (??) I couldn't disagree more. I don't think I exhaled until the credits rolled.

what a great film well worth the wait

I truly am curious as to what percentage of the viewers went to see this for a intriguing film and which percentage (including myself) saw it to see the lesbo scene

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Originally posted by Lestov16
I truly am curious as to what percentage of the viewers went to see this for a intriguing film and which percentage (including myself) saw it to see the lesbo scene

If it helps your research at all, the 'lesbo scene' crept up on me and I sat through it stunned

Loving the Black Mamba theme.

I thought the movie was good. Kindda freaky but good.

Watching Nat all naughty is a bonus.

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This is a great movie. This movie has Superb acting, writing and directing and even better soft core porn.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
This is a great movie. This movie has Superb acting, writing and directing and even better soft core porn. Amen to that.

Brilliant film. Its slow start was absolutely necessary and the last third of it is some of the most thrilling cinema I've ever sat through.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Heavily disagree.

She had to pretend to be swooned by Hayden Christenson's god awful dialogue in AotC. That takes some srs talent.


I guess when your boyfriend turns out to be Darth Vader would be enough to turn any woman into a lesbian.

Black Swan is worth watching movie and I really like the storyline of this movie. Too surprise that it gets 8+ ratings at IMDB.

The Black Swan movies Meet the exclusion of red dancing shoes, ballet toe to link with the terrorist, in Darren Aronofsky's amazing - sometimes frightening - the psychological thriller.

Just want to add my 34 cents.

I loved the movie.

Darren Aronofsky is turning out to be a quality film maker.

Indeed he is.

I was worried after his troubled and lengthy production of The Fountain, but he's come back strong with two outstanding films since then. I'm happy he found his footing and realized his potential.

The black swan movies one of the best dram and psycho movie.Black Swan is about the ballet dancer who Portman production of Tchaikovsky's role.This movies is best for it's graphics imaging.

These add-posters are getting more and more fail by the moment.

Originally posted by BackFire
Indeed he is.

I was worried after his troubled and lengthy production of The Fountain, but he's come back strong with two outstanding films since then. I'm happy he found his footing and realized his potential.

Blasphemy. The Fountain is my favorite of his films. Amazing visuals and wonderfully moving. Pi is awesome also. Requiem for a Dream is good, but it's hard to watch, heh.. not the most pleasant of films. And I felt kind of the same about The Wrestler. It was good, but the end didn't leave me warm 'n fuzzy inside.. just kind of dull and indifferent. Needed a more potent ending, I think, but Mickey Rourke was really good in it.

Black Swan was excellent also. Never thought a movie about ballerinas could be so eerie..