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The Witch-king of Angmar enters Narnia and discovers Jadis the White Witch. Sauron orders her to be killed. His weapons compliment are: "long pale sword, morning star (aka mace) and armor. She is equipped with her sceptre, dagger and twin swords. Jadis is familiar with the Deep Magic, but the Witch-king practices black magic.

Who wins this battle?

Shes a female. White witch wins.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Shes a female. White witch wins.

This, and the fact she has better feats.

Witchking screams; shatters her magcial staff, then crushes in her head with a swing of his mace, followed by a few stabbies from his sword. /thread

Proof his scream can affect a non-mook, or that he used it in the movies at all?

The hell is a mook? And didn't he use it on one of the halflings?

You mean the halflings that get stabbed, coerced, poisoned, corrupted, and are in other words susceptible to magic? If I'm thinking of the scene you are, then yes. She also affected Faramir and his soldiers, all more or less normal individuals. Jadis is not a normal individual.

Director's cut I have of LOTR:ROTK, the Witch King and Gandalf face-off, Gandalf tries to use his magical staff to fend him off; Witch King screams and Gandalf's staff explodes. His sword can also turn on fire.

So combine the scream that causes explosions, his sword and the reach-advantage his massive morning-star gives, Ladis is going down.

Edit: Here, I found a clip. Also notice the bad-asserry he states before the scream. "Do you not know death when you see it, old man. This is my power." He's like the orginal Darth Vader.

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Deleted scene feats count? I don't recall that. Still, that does trump my argument. Witch-King for the win.

So i'm assuming it was PIS that Eowyn wtfpwned him.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Deleted scene feats count? I don't recall that. Still, that does trump my argument. Witch-King for the win.

Even if we take away that scream and flaming-sword, because it's only in the director's cut (which makes the film all more awesome). I don't see her getting in close enough to hit him before that morning-star that's the size of a small wrecking ball wrecks her shit.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
So i'm assuming it was PIS that Eowyn wtfpwned him.

Not really, it was a combo of 'Merry' stabbing him from bhind with his enchanted blade (designed to "wtfpwn" his kind/evil) and the Witch King not taking Eowyn seriously because he thought she was a man, and he can't be killed by man.

Without Merry weakening him first, it's unlikely she could have done much.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Deleted scene feats count? I don't recall that. Still, that does trump my argument. Witch-King for the win.

It was in the extended cut, I thought...deleted from the theatrical release.


Extended/director cuts count, imo. Imp has to rule on it, though.

Though from a book perspective, Witch King didn't pimp-slap Gandalf and Jadis would likely "wtfpwn" him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Though from a book perspective, Witch King didn't pimp-slap Gandalf and Jadis would likely "wtfpwn" him. dude this is a FILM forum... I think that the withch king would win because Witch Jadis is a man and no man can kill the witch king

Originally posted by zig_zog
dude this is a FILM forum... I think that the withch king would win because Witch Jadis is a man and no man can kill the witch king
The reason no man can kill hims is because an elf named Glorfindel said a prophecy that the Witch King would not be killed by a man, hence no man would kill him as it would go against destiny. Granted this is from the books, but its a moot point anyways. Jadis isn't a man hence she can kill him regardless.

Still I'd give it to the Witch King.

I'd give it to the Witch King anyway.

To be a man, and somehow by the King of Witches you gotta be some kinda badass.

That's like being the King of the Gerudos....it doesn't happen often, but when it does, you know he's one bad mofo.

I always thought the WK's morning star was such a piece of shit weapon. Look at how clumsily he was wielding it in the movie, and you can see it even getting stuck in the ground after each swing and him having to use effort to dislodge it to swing it again. Honestly anyone fighting would just have to dodge the initial blow then, like, step on the chain, lol. And thus he is disarmed.

The morningstar was huge though, and he was flailing it around one armed without much apparent effort. You would have to be be incredibly fat for that tactic to work.

If you do happen to dodge it, stepping on the chain is the last thing a woman who can't weigh more than 125lbs would want to do. He'd yank it, which in turn would knock her on her ass.

Once there, he can either smash her with the flail, or just impale her with his flaming sword of fire.

I don't know. Eowyn had several opportunities to kill him due to the delays between his attacks, but didn't because she's stupid. Someone who isn't stupid could have very easily capitalized.

So he swings the morningstar, misses....and when she gets in close he uses his sword...negating her whole strategy.

Why? One guy who was not using any fancy skills and does not have super human abilities fought off 9 of them by himself without a scratch... And, the reason why I'm bringing it up is because someone brought out the epic reach advantage the WK had.

You talking about Aragorn fighting them off in the 1st movie? Didn't he use fire, and he is one of the most skilled fighters in the trilogy, along with Legolas and Gimli.

As for WK, he does have a monumental reach advantage....and an advantage on top of that. He knows how far his morningstar can go, and he knows that if he misses, his opponent will capitalize on that and try to get in close. It makes sense that he'll be waiting with his sword if she happens to get past the star.

Yeah, Aragorn is a far better fighter than Eowyn and is in truth likely the most skilled sword master in the entire trilogy. He also used a torch against them which is what really won the battle for him.
Also at this time the Witch King was likely more powerful, which is wht he says, "Ths is my hour," when battling Gandalf.