Star Wars Blu-rays will you be getting them?

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darthmaul1
Star Wars Blu-rays will you be getting them?
And what would you like to see in them
(in the movies and special features)

I for one would like to see Luke assemble his lightsabre incorparated into the movie in VI.
I would like to see Yoda land on Dagohba in III
I would like to see the extended cut of Maul vs Obi-wan and Quigon (as seen at the end of the deleted scenes in I)
And i know i'm going to get flac for this but redo the effects of the star destroyer hitting the deathstar in VI
and make sure all the boxes are removed around the ships.

Sith Master X
I doubt I'll be getting the blue-rays, but ya never know.

I most definitely agree with you on seeing Yoda land on Dagobah in III. Ok, it's a short, insignificant scene....but.. it's BEAUTIFUL! I adored every second of it, even though it's was quick and probably didn't need to be there, which it's wasn't, but I still say that it should have been in. Those 37 seconds or whatever, would hardly kill the pacing of the film, or ruin it.

I also would like to see Luke constructing the Saber...but, after 27 years, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to put that in now.

~JP~
Nope, I dont do Blue-ray.

Sith Master X
It's too expensive for me, and the quality of blu ray over DVD isn't that big of a leap in my opinion. It's certainly nice, but DVD does just fine for me now.

~JP~
Originally posted by Sith Master X
the quality of blu ray over DVD isn't that big of a leap in my opinion.


My sentiments EXACTLY

roughrider
Originally posted by Sith Master X
It's too expensive for me, and the quality of blu ray over DVD isn't that big of a leap in my opinion. It's certainly nice, but DVD does just fine for me now.

I have the same opinion. That's why I'm looking at a PS3 system instead, as a compromise.

Sith Master X
I have a PS3, though only to play my video games honestly.

I still don't buy blu-ray movies because they're off the wall expensive whenever I see them. And I know that a DVD, which practically has the same quality and is a lot cheaper, will do me just fine.

darthmaul1
I would agree the bluray is only about 10 to 20% better than DVD and sometimes when they transfer it it's too good or too polished. Like predator or stargate or blade runner. On the last 2 you can see the strings on the models. So hopefully Lucas retouches the effects. I will probably rent them first.

JediRobin23
nope, getting tired of paying Lucas

Sith Master X
lol Lucas ain't gonna get your money. He already gets it from the store when they purchase the film.

queeq
I'll buy them... of course, I am stupid.

roughrider
Originally posted by darthmaul1
I would agree the bluray is only about 10 to 20% better than DVD and sometimes when they transfer it it's too good or too polished. Like predator or stargate or blade runner. On the last 2 you can see the strings on the models. So hopefully Lucas retouches the effects. I will probably rent them first.

That's been my problem, when I've looked at demonstration in the stores - the picture is TOO bright, TOO sharp. The movies are looking more like video games, and lacking the contrast look of cinema. It's not like Digital Projection in the theatres, which feels like a high quality film experience.
Those TVs with 'TruMotion'? That's the worst because the characters move in an unnatural way; the fluidity reminds me of videotape, of all things!
I'm still satisfied with my 1080i HDTV, and my HDMI upgrading player. When I finally get the PS3, I'll see when I feel right about trying Blu-ray.

darthmaul1
Originally posted by roughrider
That's been my problem, when I've looked at demonstration in the stores - the picture is TOO bright, TOO sharp. The movies are looking more like video games, and lacking the contrast look of cinema. It's not like Digital Projection in the theatres, which feels like a high quality film experience.
Those TVs with 'TruMotion'? That's the worst because the characters move in an unnatural way; the fluidity reminds me of videotape, of all things!
I'm still satisfied with my 1080i HDTV, and my HDMI upgrading player. When I finally get the PS3, I'll see when I feel right about trying Blu-ray.

I don't mind the newer films being on bluray. but the older ones, whats the point? the picture is almost as good and sometimes you don't want to see all the details. like being able to tell it's a stuntman and not the actor or being able to see the wires on the models or stuntmen.
I think lucas may have to incorporate some of the good deleted scenes back into the movies to get me to buy them again or redo a couple of the scenes that have bothered me over the years.

queeq
Originally posted by roughrider
That's been my problem, when I've looked at demonstration in the stores - the picture is TOO bright, TOO sharp. The movies are looking more like video games, and lacking the contrast look of cinema. It's not like Digital Projection in the theatres, which feels like a high quality film experience.
Those TVs with 'TruMotion'? That's the worst because the characters move in an unnatural way; the fluidity reminds me of videotape, of all things!
I'm still satisfied with my 1080i HDTV, and my HDMI upgrading player. When I finally get the PS3, I'll see when I feel right about trying Blu-ray.

Too bright has to do with the tv... and too sharp???? That's impossible. Blu Ray is totally excellent. I have over 80 by now.

Sith Master X
Originally posted by roughrider

Those TVs with 'TruMotion'? That's the worst because the characters move in an unnatural way; the fluidity reminds me of videotape, of all things!

Yes, TruMotion is absolutely dreadful! I remember seeing one in action at a Walmart and thought exactly the same thing....the movie looked like a video tape because of the weird framerate. It looked so cheesy.

queeq
All those digital 'enhancements' suck... just turn them off.

coolmovies
I just hope this set is not Limited eddition

roughrider
Originally posted by queeq
Too bright has to do with the tv... and too sharp???? That's impossible. Blu Ray is totally excellent. I have over 80 by now.

I know what you see in the stores isn't exactly what you see at home, because they frequently are taking one movie on one player, and splitting the signal over 20 TVs.

And I remember when Widescreen TVs first hit the market. The store salespeople wouldn't even bother to set the TVs & DVD players to a 16x9 aspect ratio, making all these movies have a squeezed look. No wonder I had to ask them a lot of questions, because they obviously didn't give a toss about presentation.

darthmaul1
Originally posted by queeq
Too bright has to do with the tv... and too sharp???? That's impossible. Blu Ray is totally excellent. I have over 80 by now.
Being too sharp is not impossible, have you seen the original predator on the new bluray? Arnie looks too cleaned up.
And with scifi movies from the 80's you can see the strings on the model cause they don't reedit the effects to remove the wires.

darthmaul1
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Yes, TruMotion is absolutely dreadful! I remember seeing one in action at a Walmart and thought exactly the same thing....the movie looked like a video tape because of the weird framerate. It looked so cheesy.

Ok i'm a little late responding to this, but i just saw a TV with trumotion, and i have to say it sucks. it feels like i'm watching a soap opera.
The only thing it may be good for would be a nature show. but any thing else no way.

InfernoJG95
maybe if i get a blu ray player.....sorry DVDs only

darthmaul1
Originally posted by InfernoJG95
maybe if i get a blu ray player.....sorry DVDs only

I don't understand all the hype around the bluray for me it's only about a 10-20% better than the DVD. but i do own a player and some blurays but i'm sure a shit not going to replace all my dvd's. I would have to say the best thing is the amount of special features that can be put on it. but there again some blurays have alot of stuff some don't.

queeq
I love the crispy blu ray look. Amazingly sharp. But I am not replacing all my DVD's (except the ones with a crappy transfer maybe). My BD player ups the output on regular DVD's as well... So it's fine.

But there is a distinct difference between the two.

coolmovies
Originally posted by queeq
I love the crispy blu ray look. Amazingly sharp. But I am not replacing all my DVD's (except the ones with a crappy transfer maybe). My BD player ups the output on regular DVD's as well... So it's fine.

But there is a distinct difference between the two.

Blu ray disk is scratch proof

InfernoJG95
well its only a matter of time before theres no more DVDs. it will just be blu ray.

queeq
I think BD is just a transitional phase. It's all gonna be solid state... no more mechanically driven discs...

darthmaul1
Originally posted by queeq
I think BD is just a transitional phase. It's all gonna be solid state... no more mechanically driven discs...

You mean just having the films on a hard drive?
If that is the case, for me personally i don't think so.
People like to have the DVD, CD, Bluray, LP(record), Tape or 8 track in their collection to hold.
What if the hard drive crashes? then you are hooped.

queeq
It'll be on flash disc and stuff. Solid state... a regular hard drive is still a disc that has to be rotated by a little motor. In solid state there are no moving parts anymore so it's less likely to crash. And it's not something new already... the Nintendo DS cards are like that already. And the flash discs in your photocamera's etc etc.

Plus by storing your data in the cloud, you don't really need to store them on separate discs. It's the mechanical elements in regular DVD's and hard drives that make them vulnerable.

coolmovies

darthmaul1

InfernoJG95
ah well guess i should invest in a BR player not

coolmovies
"TheForce.net user Chreff allegedly has connections at Lucasfilm, and he's explained why the 2004 DVDs looked so bad, and how the Blu-Ray version will have fixed all the problems that the 2004 transfer had, and he also makes the claim that this is Lucas's "final" version of Star Wars. I kind of doubt that since there's still the 3D release looming ahead, and if Lucas is given enough time I suspect he'll think up new things to tweak, but overall Chreff's post sounds encouraging, not just for the Blu-Ray release but for the digital preservation of Star Wars in general. He even mentions Adywan. "

" Chreff said:

Let me see if I can be more clear. The 1997 SE was a restored version of the original print plus new effects added. What they did in 2004 was completely disassemble the restored film, cleaned it more and scanned everything in the computer separately. THis basically means the celluloid negative will never have to be touched again. They then re-composited the films together back into the SE version with more additions. Because this process is almost like putting a film together again from scratch, the original color timing that was done in 1977 or 1997 was basically erased and had to be redone. The problem is that because they attempted to meet a DVD release deadline they completed the composites but never finished the color, sound and other little things that would normally be done on a full restoration. That's why things that weren't even in the original release in '77 (like the big blue halo around the Death Star explosion in ANH) are seen on the 2004 DVD. The digital transfer is almost too good.

What's good about all this though is that everything is in a computer at super high res quality. They can pretty much dial in a piece of film and the effect and adjust and correct at will. It's far less laborious than trying to redo real film. Instead of having to mess with celluloid they just hit a keyboard. They put all 3 films together for the 2004 release in less than a year. They've now had 6 years to do the same work. There's no question this quality will be the best ever for SW.

I know how this process works because I have experience in digital editing and also follow SW quite closely, obviously. I also know people in the business who are involved and I know the restoration on the SW saga was still being done long after the DVD release. People like to call GL names but he's continued to put a lot of cash into this project for years (as he should since this is where everything started). The blu-ray is essentially the final version of SW.

The lightsabers will be fixed, especially the green one in ANH. That black smudge on the Emperor in ROTJ? Gone. Those boxes around TIE fighters in ANH? Bye bye! The magically appearing TIE's in the ROTJ space battle? I don't know about that one honestly. It's won't be like that Adywan Revisited stuff though. I'm as anxious to see it as anyone to see it all on my 55" plasma!"

queeq
On the BD trailer, Vader's lightsabre in the throne room fight is still PINK!!!!!

Oh I do hope they fix that.

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