Big Barda Vs Maxima

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Prep-Man
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Omega Vision
Toughie.

I guess Maxima.

cdtm
New Gods are immune to telepathy, according to Martian Manhunter, and according to Mr. Miracle Granny Goodness conditions minions to resist all telepathy below Darkseids own (This would easily include Barda, since she was captain of Darkseids fury's.)

Add in the Mega Rod and comparable, if not superior, physical stats and Barda should win this.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by cdtm
New Gods are immune to telepathy, according to Martian Manhunter, and according to Mr. Miracle Granny Goodness conditions minions to resist all telepathy below Darkseids own (This would easily include Barda, since she was captain of Darkseids fury's.)

Add in the Mega Rod and comparable, if not superior, physical stats and Barda should win this.
Maxima's TK is more impressive than her TP though.

Galan007
Maxima.

Konton
Maxima wins a hefty majority. 8-9/10. Her tk is too strong and Barda can only get wins from BFR here.

Q99
Originally posted by Konton
Maxima wins a hefty majority. 8-9/10. Her tk is too strong and Barda can only get wins from BFR here.

Or energy blasts.

Konton
Maxima isn't getting KO'd in one shot here. Her shields are too strong. If she does takes a hit she's going to recover and hit back harder. Barda's tough, but she can't do anything against someone that's physically on her level and has Superman busting tk.

Q99
Originally posted by Konton
Maxima isn't getting KO'd in one shot here. Her shields are too strong. If she does takes a hit she's going to recover and hit back harder. Barda's tough, but she can't do anything against someone that's physically on her level and has Superman busting tk.

The big problem is the shields. If she can get shots past the shields, though, she can dish serious damage.

Konton
Eh, Maxima has the mobility advantage too.

One megarod blast won't KO her. She really HAS to boomtube her. energy blast is just going to piss Maxima off and then she ends it with a tk vicegrip.

Q99
Originally posted by Konton
Eh, Maxima has the mobility advantage too.

One megarod blast won't KO her. She really HAS to boomtube her. energy blast is just going to piss Maxima off and then she ends it with a tk vicegrip.

There's also, say, Boomtubing behind her to get in close smile

Barda has both flight and teleporting via tube, so she's pretty mobile.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Galan007
Maxima.

cdtm
Originally posted by Konton
Maxima isn't getting KO'd in one shot here. Her shields are too strong. If she does takes a hit she's going to recover and hit back harder. Barda's tough, but she can't do anything against someone that's physically on her level and has Superman busting tk.

Her TK isn't Superman busting. Far from it.

The weaker "Byrne" era Superman walked right through her bloodlusted TK efforts, and knocked her out with a mere backhand.

And generally, when she hits Superman, all she accomplishes is to send him flying, but without really causing much damage.

Barda isn't Superman, but considering she's tough enough to duke it out with Wonder Woman, I can't see Maxima one shotting her..

KingD19
I see this ending in a horizontal love session.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by cdtm
Her TK isn't Superman busting. Far from it.

The weaker "Byrne" era Superman walked right through her bloodlusted TK efforts, and knocked her out with a mere backhand.

And generally, when she hits Superman, all she accomplishes is to send him flying, but without really causing much damage.

Barda isn't Superman, but considering she's tough enough to duke it out with Wonder Woman, I can't see Maxima one shotting her..

Maxima's screwed with Superman's head as well. Along with Wonder Woman and Orion. Her powers grew as time went on.

cdtm
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Maxima's screwed with Superman's head as well. Along with Wonder Woman and Orion. Her powers grew as time went on.

She screwed with Supermans head in the example I mentioned, too. It was the Eradicator influence that counteracted it, although Supermans own durability let him resist the TK attacks.

Orion tends to have showings all over the place, but Ostrander pretty firmly established New Gods are completely immune to mind screwing, when he directly linked the New Gods history with the Martians history. If MM can't touch a New Gods mind, Maxima isn't doing it.

Q99
Originally posted by cdtm

Orion tends to have showings all over the place, but Ostrander pretty firmly established New Gods are completely immune to mind screwing, when he directly linked the New Gods history with the Martians history. If MM can't touch a New Gods mind, Maxima isn't doing it.

Also, motherboxes can provide mental shielding too.

tideoftime
A good fight, but Maxima should take the majority. Maybe not 8-9/10 as suggested above -- Barda isn't going down that easy, by any means. But Maxima is often thought of more as she was 2 decades ago (much as some people still think of WW) -- her powers/physical abilities have grown, and she's capable of taking at least 6/10 against Barda. But Barda does get her share, for sure, and her TP resistance, coupled with the Rod, makes this far from a slam...

vansonbee
Maxima for the majority.
Originally posted by Q99
There's also, say, Boomtubing behind her to get in close smile

Barda has both flight and teleporting via tube, so she's pretty mobile. This ain't gonna happen!

Big Barda ain't no pussy. She rather get cream than use out of character tactic like BFR.

Konton
Originally posted by vansonbee
Maxima for the majority.
This ain't gonna happen!

Big Barda ain't no pussy. She rather get cream than use out of character tactic like BFR.

It's in her character. She knew she couldn't beat Lobo and BFR'd him.

Q99
Originally posted by Konton
It's in her character. She knew she couldn't beat Lobo and BFR'd him.

I wouldn't say she felt she couldn't beat Lobo (of their three fights, one was toe-to-toe, when she was turned into a Czarian. The other two times, he had the clear jump on her and prevented her from using the rod, and the second she casually BFRed him, never have they fought it out with her normal body), just that she had a way of dealing with him easily.


When talking with Wonder Woman, she expressed the opinion of, while she loves a good fight, winning is what matters. Barda's not an "if an enemy is at a disadvantage, give them a fair chance," type. She was trained with Apokoptian ethics and while she's turned to good, if the enemy can't handle what she throws that's their problem, be it boom tube or megarod or what have you.




Yea, that sounds reasonable.

Desaad
Tough fight. Barda is more skilled, and a better warrior, but Maxima I think has a power advantage.

50/50.

Warlord
maxima

basilisk
Originally posted by cdtm
She screwed with Supermans head in the example I mentioned, too. It was the Eradicator influence that counteracted it, although Supermans own durability let him resist the TK attacks.

Orion tends to have showings all over the place, but Ostrander pretty firmly established New Gods are completely immune to mind screwing, when he directly linked the New Gods history with the Martians history. If MM can't touch a New Gods mind, Maxima isn't doing it.

The only problem with that is that Maxima didn't just mess with Orion, she has already flat out KO'd him with TP on panel. So she could do it to Barda, unless the MB is stopping it.

Konton
Maxima is too strong for Barda IMO. She was the only one, save Superman, strong enough to damage Doomsday in Adventures of Superman. She's just as much of a warrior as Barda is, too. This was established in Extreme Justice and Steel, although she is a bit prissy off the battle field.

With the starting distance being what it is, Maxima can just tk blast/insta-shield at round start for easy wins.

aztec
I've never been impress by either Maxima or Barda. All the stories I've read with either of them have been average. They don't stand out as top tier powerhouses. In regards to the thread, I place Maxima above Barda. As others have mentiones Maxima was doing decent against Doomsday. Barda on the other hand got her ass handed by the female furies when Diana and her confronted them. So with that being said, I give Maxima the mayority.

On another note, what trades do you guys recommend from either of them?

I've read Our Worlds at War, Death of Superman for Maxima and Superman/Batman (Supergirl) as welll as some JLA issues for Barda.

Konton
Barda lost against the furies on purpose to lure out Granny Goodness. Once she arrived Diana said to quit playing and then Barda impaled two Furies with her headpiece. I think she's at a significant disadvantage here, but let's not misrepresent the characters.

aztec
I don't remember reading anything about Barda faking the fight, I'm going to have to reread the trade and get back at you. But, from what I remember Barda was getting her ass handed to her. Up until Diana lassoed Granny Goodness, and threaten to killed her was when Barda was free from the Furies grasp. But, as it stands I give Barda the majority because I don't consider her a top tier. She's a low herald at best. Add her motherbox, and trinkets then its another story. But, nevertheless I'm still saying Maxima for the win.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Toughie.

I guess Maxima.

cdtm
*Bump*

Opinions changed somewhat. Eradicator may have been amping Superman when he walked through Maxima's final assault.

I still maintain New Gods tp resistance/immunity established in various comics should Trump Maxima taking Orion and Lightray out, though.

Anyways, several posts up, someone claims a single blast from the Mega Rod won't KO Maxima. Maybe.

But for the reoord, it did one shot KO Superman. In the infanous "porno" comic.

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