Superman/Wonder Woman vs Firelord/Nova Prime/Terrax/Magneto (at his prime)

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carver9
Can Supes and Wondy win?

Magneto has his force field up.

Q99
What, four on two against heralds?

Even with the first two being higher in the herald category and very experienced at working together, they lose.

carver9
I was looking at it like this... there is a thread where the majority are voting that Superman could beat Firelord and Terrax and then some people also stated that Superman would stomp Nova and Firelord teamed together and Wonder Woman is Supermans equal.

Q99
Well, I for one disagree with those people. I'd vote Nova and Firelord together over Clark quite solidly.

Cubey
Superman > Wonder Woman, and what feats does Firelord have come close to what Supes has done? He'd get one-shotted without much thought.

I also like how you made a spite out of butthurt. Why the **** are you not banned?

carver9
Originally posted by Cubey
Superman > Wonder Woman, and what feats does Firelord have come close to what Supes has done? He'd get one-shotted without much thought.

I also like how you made a spite out of butthurt. Why the **** are you not banned?

I told you why its not spite in my eyes.

Firelord has taken on Surfer and Thor and has done quite well against them; hell, he has actually beaten Thor.

dmills
Firelord isn't as powerful but he going to be oneshotted. He's actually pretty durable.

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Slaanesh
team 2 easily..

iceman24567
Easily no but at the end they take a majority due to Mags

dmills
Originally posted by dmills
Firelord isn't as powerful but he going to be oneshotted. He's actually pretty durable.

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I meant to say that Firelord isn't going to be oneshotted.

iceman24567
Links don't work brah

Stoic
It's an Apache server error, in port 80. or it was just blocked by the admin.

Good fight, I'm going with team 1.

dmills
How about now?


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tideoftime
Originally posted by carver9
I was looking at it like this... there is a thread where the majority are voting that Superman could beat Firelord and Terrax and then some people also stated that Superman would stomp Nova and Firelord teamed together and Wonder Woman is Supermans equal.

Preface Note: the problem people have in their "equating' one character with another (or not), is that they tend to do it from a simple, one dimensional/linear POV; powersets, vulnerabilities, and comparative attributes make a *huge* difference in a "practical" forum-battle. Wonder Woman is essentially Superman's "equal" only in the context that (again, just generally speaking), she has been indicated by DC for at least a decade now as being almost as strong, relatively as fast, and about as resistant to blunt attacks (he's better, of course) as he is; his broader powers make a *huge* difference, however, when comparing to others in forum battles, just as her weaponry (and more esoteric secondary abilities -- limited Themiscyran magic/rituals; being more resistant to magic than he is, as well as moreso than many characters; having "Truth Vision/Senses", via Athena's blessing; et al), make her more effective than him in certain other battles. As is often the case, too many people on this (and other) forums think in too narrow concepts/terms, and/or in overly simplified Yes/No, Stomp/Easy answers.

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With four on two, and Mags at his prime (and ready/shields up), I am thinking Team 2 takes a narrow majority; it certainly isn't the stomp, however, some might think, and SM/WW certainly get wins, especially if they really get their "team-on", as the two of them work very well in tandem together. As stated further up the posts, Mags makes the difference here; without him, Team 1 can take the other 3... Now, of course, the real debate becomes: can they defeat Team 2 if someone *else* is dropped off, but Mags is still there...

dmills
I don't know why anyone things Mags is the big difference maker here. He certainly is a powerhouse, but certainly not the saving grace of the team.

Warlord
Superman solos

dmills
Originally posted by Warlord
Superman solos That you Shokusagi? Or is it Manx?

Black bolt z
Superman easily.

Warlord
Originally posted by dmills
That you Shokusagi? Or is it Manx?

It's "shokosugi". I demand respect

dmills
Originally posted by Warlord
It's "shokosugi". I demand respect YES SIR!

Madvillain
Spite. Heralds win easily.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Team 2.

Magneto takes care of Superman while the rest handle the princess.

Bentley
Yep, Mags can weaken Superman and the match ends shortly after with Nova badly hurt, Terrax dead and Firelord spent after finally beating Diana.

Badabing
Originally posted by carver9
I was looking at it like this... there is a thread where the majority are voting that Superman could beat Firelord and Terrax and then some people also stated that Superman would stomp Nova and Firelord teamed together and Wonder Woman is Supermans equal. So you decided to make a spite thread? Closed.

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