Zom's Gauntlet

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CortSether
Zom is fully healed before each fight.

1) Mephisto
2) Dormammu
3) Rune King Thor
4) The Vishanti
5) Cyttorak
6) Chthon
7) Arioch
8) Shuma-Gorath (in-realm)
9) Tiamut
10) BC arc Galactus
11) Eternity/Infinity
12) Sise-Neg


( btw no way he gets passed 8) Happy Dance

zopzop
Why doesn't he get past 8? Dr. Strange did. What's to stop Zom from devouring Arioch and then stomping Shuma like Strange did.

Strange never beat Zom. He got the Tribunal to do it for him.

He stops somewhere around 10-11.

shokosugi
Zom clears it

TheTyrant
Originally posted by zopzop
Why doesn't he get past 8? Dr. Strange did. What's to stop Zom from devouring Arioch and then stomping Shuma like Strange did.

Strange never beat Zom. He got the Tribunal to do it for him.

He stops somewhere around 10-11.

No way in hell is he getting past Galactus.

TheLordofMurder
Zom's rampage comes to a complete, violent, stop at 10; BCA Galactus crushes him...

Stoic
Does anyone truly know how powerful Cytorrak is? How can anyone say tha Zom even gets past him, let alone place him at 5?

zopzop
@Stoic

Dr. Strange stated that Zom was "indescribably more dangerous than a dozen Umars", he was referring to Umar sister of Dormammu. She may not have his skill but she's his equal in terms of raw power.

Zom ,while bound in his "Chains of Eternal Bondage", was melting Umar's spells like a blow torch melts snowflakes. She stated "The legends of a thousand various dimensions say, if Zom ever breaks free of his chains, no power in the universe can stop him".

Dr. Strange was stunned that even while bound by the Chains and Crown of Blindness he was still unbowed and totally out of Strange's league in terms of power.

Zom really is that badass.

Utrigita
I think he will encounter problems at the Vishanti (4) but he will probably get past but then there is Shuma Gorath (who Sise-Neg considered a threat great enough to imprison) and after that Tiamut... Zom won't clear it that much I'm certain of.

Uriel005
... Shuma Goroth is a dimension conquering beast. He gets crazy nerfed when leaving his dimension. As far as I'm aware Zom is still working on just conquering dimension 616. Shuma takes this one.

zopzop
Originally posted by Uriel005
... Shuma Goroth is a dimension conquering beast. He gets crazy nerfed when leaving his dimension. As far as I'm aware Zom is still working on just conquering dimension 616. Shuma takes this one.

Shuma got stomped in his own realm, where supposedly he's all powerful, by Strange.

Strange and the Ancient One were powerless before Zom until the Tribunal stepped in. He's not more or less powerful depending on what dimension he's in.

Uriel005
I call that jobbing to Strange.

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
Shuma got stomped in his own realm, where supposedly he's all powerful, by Strange.

Strange and the Ancient One were powerless before Zom until the Tribunal stepped in. He's not more or less powerful depending on what dimension he's in.


Well Shuma-Gorath itself states it rules hundreds of dimensions. And at this time authors were referring to whole universes as dimensions, meaning Shuma-Gorath ruled hundreds of universes:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/LeprosyMachine/Dim_are_Uni.jpg

Strange/Arioch who was = Shuma-Gorath had enough power to bust galaxies by his mere presence. Also, the battle between Shuma-Gorath and Strange/Arioch was causing so much damage that it would have destroyed all the nether-realms in existence. While there are certainly feats by Marvel characters that are greater, Zom is definitely not one of them with those feats. Dr Strange stalemated Zom the whole time even before the Ancient one gave the remains of his power to him. Zom is hyped so much all based on very vague hyperbole. If he cannot even beat Doctor Strange with hardly any prep then he isn't getting passed Shuma. Hell, I doubt he'd get passed Arioch.

Bentley
We need a Shuma Gorath respect thread.

Colossus-Big C
not enough feats , as for the gaunlet he stops at shuma

zopzop
Strange/Arioch who was = Shuma-Gorath had enough power to bust galaxies by his mere presence. Also, the battle between Shuma-Gorath and Strange/Arioch was causing so much damage that it would have destroyed all the nether-realms in existence.

The thing that gets me is, the ease in which Strange bested Arioch and Gorath. He never beat Zom. All he did was delay until the LT showed up and roasted him. Yet still he didn't die. He survived the LT's wrath. And this sliver of Zom has the potential to become "Full Zom" if given a chance.

Strange literally absorbed Arioch. Then went on to hurl a flaming visage of the planet Earth at Gorath and defeat him. The End.



You are correct that he was basically running around pot shotting Zom. He himself stated he had no chance to beat him. Keep in mind this was happening with Zom's hands bound by "Chains of Living Bondage", Strange was amazed he could even function with those things on. Umar stated if he ever freed himself from the bonds, it was pretty much over for the universe.

Even with the manacles, he was melting Umar's spells with ease. She stated that he "dwarfed her in power."

As the fight progressed you see him snap the chains but not the manacles. It looked like he was going to do so till the whole "forelock/LT beatdown".

King Kandy
Stops at 10, only because of the ultimate nullifier.

zopzop
Originally posted by Bentley
We need a Shuma Gorath respect thread.

LOL we have one.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t477775.html

Kasper Gutman
Make it 616 and Zom easily beats Shuma Gorath. Now what if Zom did make Dr. Strange's journey to Shuma's realm? Wouldn't he have had to pass through Arioch first? Can Zom absorb Arioch and go into the final Shuma fight with an even greater power then Strange did? Hmm...

The Nuul
If Apoc was there, he'd win.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by The Nuul
If Apoc was there, he'd win. no he wouldnt, your just mad apocalypse can beat silver surfer

zopzop
Can Zom absorb Arioch and go into the final Shuma fight with an even greater power then Strange did? Hmm...

Why wouldn't Zom be able to absorb/devour Arioch? He's a demon after all.

If Strange could do it, why not Zom?

Strange made a fool out of Arioch and Gorath in their own dimensions. He got no where fighting Zom even with the Ancient One's power added to his own.

Strange was about to be killed by Zom till the LT made his cameo.

Colossus-Big C
in all honesty shuma should one shot strange

King Kandy
Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
Make it 616 and Zom easily beats Shuma Gorath. Now what if Zom did make Dr. Strange's journey to Shuma's realm? Wouldn't he have had to pass through Arioch first? Can Zom absorb Arioch and go into the final Shuma fight with an even greater power then Strange did? Hmm...
Zom would pwn Arioch much worse than Strange did.

CortSether
Originally posted by King Kandy
Zom would pwn Arioch much worse than Strange did.

Not at all.

zopzop
@ CortSether


No of course not roll eyes (sarcastic)

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
@ CortSether


No of course not roll eyes (sarcastic)


Arioch's few panel battle with Strange proved far more than the vague hyperbole coming from Zom and how he was put in chains (by Dormammu no less)

zopzop
Even chained he needed Eternity's help to imprison Zom!

And at least we have Zom on panel melting Umar's spells and causing her to flee, while Strange and the Ancient One were powerless before her. That's more than Arioch did. He was tricked by a simple freaking illusion for god's sake!

Fact : Strange and the Ancient One never defeated Zom
Fact : Strange was about to die at Zom's hand until the LT showed up
Fact : Strange handed Arioch his ass in his own realm
Fact : Strange killed Shuma in his own realm
Fact : Strange never defeated, let alone killed, Zom

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
Even chained he needed Eternity's help to imprison Zom!

And at least we have Zom on panel melting Umar's spells and causing her to flee, while Strange and the Ancient One were powerless before her. That's more than Arioch did. He was tricked by a simple freaking illusion for god's sake!

Fact : Strange and the Ancient One never defeated Zom
Fact : Strange was about to die at Zom's hand until the LT showed up
Fact : Strange handed Arioch his ass in his own realm
Fact : Strange killed Shuma in his own realm
Fact : Strange never defeated, let alone killed, Zom


The fact that Zom was unable to kill Strange in that brief period was proof enough that he's overrated as crap. LOL at you thinking the massive prep Strange needed against Shuma is comparable. ****ing Zom wasn't able to kill a normal Doctor Strange. What does that tell you? OH, and he got trapped in a vase lol

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether
The fact that Zom was unable to kill Strange in that brief period was proof enough that he's overrated as crap. LOL at you thinking the massive prep Strange needed against Shuma is comparable. ****ing Zom wasn't able to kill a normal Doctor Strange. What does that tell you? OH, and he got trapped in a vase lol

LOL that's AFTER the LT showed up and beat him down. The LT didn't even bother to make a cameo in the Strange/Shuma fight.

Laugh all you want but Strange/Ancient One was about to be killed by Zom till LT shazamed himself in.

Strange KILLED Gorath in his own realm with a flaming beach ball.

See the difference? You probably don't but I'm bored arguing the same points over and over.

King Kandy
Originally posted by CortSether
Arioch's few panel battle with Strange proved far more than the vague hyperbole coming from Zom and how he was put in chains (by Dormammu no less)
The vague hyperbole of Arioch telling Strange about his UNLIMITED POWER! and doing shit-all in terms of actually defeating him, then getting drained, does in fact prove... absolutely nothing. He did a worse job fighting Strange than Zom did. At least Strange could defeat Arioch, he didn't have the tiniest chance at beating Zom.

CortSether
Originally posted by King Kandy
The vague hyperbole of Arioch telling Strange about his UNLIMITED POWER! and doing shit-all in terms of actually defeating him, then getting drained, does in fact prove... absolutely nothing. He did a worse job fighting Strange than Zom did. At least Strange could defeat Arioch, he didn't have the tiniest chance at beating Zom.

It's amazing that you cannot smell the massive plot device in Strange's battle with Arioch. What we do know is that Arioch fused with Strange was so powerful that in the battle with Shuma it would have destroyed all the netherrealms in existence from Shuma's realm dimensions away from anywhere else.

Originally posted by zopzop
LOL that's AFTER the LT showed up and beat him down. The LT didn't even bother to make a cameo in the Strange/Shuma fight.

Laugh all you want but Strange/Ancient One was about to be killed by Zom till LT shazamed himself in.

Strange KILLED Gorath in his own realm with a flaming beach ball.

See the difference? You probably don't but I'm bored arguing the same points over and over.

So you're arguing that because the size of Shuma-Gorath's replica was small that automatically means the yield behind it was low? roll eyes (sarcastic) Strange used Shuma's own magic against it. It was Shuma's energy that defeated it and it didn't even kill Shuma in the long run so shush.


It's amazing how overrated Zom is on this forum, and it's only on KMC where this Zom hype is still in effect and it's truly mind boggling. I constantly read "Not even Eternity could stop Zom!". All based on vague hyperbole and not supported in the least. Hell, Eternity and Zom never even appeared in the same comic issue. All anyone goes by is Umar's vague telling of events that took place in the past. Which, you know, she never even said that Eternity couldn't stop Zom. All she said was that Dormammu and Eternity both imprisoned him. Nowhere is it said that they even battled. I find it hard to believe that they would battle anyway, especially considering that regular Doc Strange, not amped in the least, was stalemating Zom, and then when he got a bit of the Ancient One's power (the same Ancient One that Shuma was wtfpwning) he made a laughing stock out of Zom and ripped off his hair.

So what are the facts?

At one point in time Zom was imprisoned by Eternity
Dormammu bound Zom in the Chains of Living Bondage (before Eternity imprisoned him)
Then Zom says, "Even Dormammu, even Eternity himself could not stop Zom from ..." Okay...from what exactly?
Then Zom gets sent packing

And as a testament to Zom's supposedly great power, Strange uses it to fight Hulk and gets godstomped in the end (And I don't care if it wasn't all of Zom's power, because if he's supposedly so powerful to be > Eternity then even the smallest fraction of his power should have no problem in KOing Hulk.


Zom is nothing to Shuma-Gorath.

Kasper Gutman
The slightest fraction of Zom's power turned a regular human being (Strange couldn't cast magic at the time) with some magic equipment into a being who was easily wrecking WWH over and over again until he chose to shut down the fight. WWH won because Dr. Strange shut down and was a sitting duck. That's pretty amazing if you ask me. A tiny sliver of power putting any joe blo over WWH shouldn't be trivialized. That version of Strange/Zom could have challenged any herald level hero.

CortSether
Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
The slightest fraction of Zom's power turned a regular human being (Strange couldn't cast magic at the time) with some magic equipment into a being who was easily wrecking WWH over and over again until he chose to shut down the fight. WWH won because Dr. Strange shut down and was a sitting duck. That's pretty amazing if you ask me. A tiny sliver of power putting any joe blo over WWH shouldn't be trivialized. That version of Strange/Zom could have challenged any herald level hero.

Herald level? Not even.

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether
It's amazing that you cannot smell the massive plot device in Strange's battle with Arioch. What we do know is that Arioch fused with Strange was so powerful that in the battle with Shuma it would have destroyed all the netherrealms in existence from Shuma's realm dimensions away from anywhere else.

Oh please. How many times has that "destruction of lower realms" argument been used before? Odin/Seth, Galactus/Mephisto, Agamotto/Galactus, Mephisto/Satannish, etc... Everytime magical beings throw down it affects other dimensions. It didn't start or end with Shuma/Strange.




No that's not what I'm arguing. The fact that Strange absorbed Arioch with ease when he's supposed to be all powerful, then going on WTFPWNing Gorath in his own realm in the stupidest way imaginable. He literally hurled a flaming ball at him. Then Gorath died.

The LT didn't even have to make an appearance it was so beneath him.




Yes what are the "facts"?

Fact : Somehow, somewhere, Dormammu got the Chains of Living Bondage on Zom's hands
Fact : Even so bound, his power dwarfed Dormammu's
Fact : Eternity had to step in and imprison him (not even destroy him)
Fact : Once released, Strange/Ancient One or Umar couldn't stop him
Fact : Umar stated that if those manacles come off, it's game over (even with them on he was melting her spells with ease)
Fact : He started to break his chains (but not the manacles yet) before the LT arrived
Fact : He was about to kill Strange/Ancient One before LT arrived\
Fact : The LT tried to kill him, but Zom survived as a sliver of his former power and can reform into the full Zom if given a chance

Fact : Strange bested Arioch with ease in his own dimension
Fact : Strange killed Gorath in his own dimension

See the HUGE difference?



More BS, there was even a quote from the writer of the whole WWH story arc stating Strange was merely channelling a fraction of Zom's power, that's the only reason the planet was still on it's axis.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=130244&highlight=war+room








Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep through the night.

Gecko4lif
Dont see him passing 10

zopzop
@Gecko4Lif

I agree. It was stated that the BCA Galactus huger was increasing at an exponential rate, that soon all the energy that is or was would be insufficient to stop his hunger.

Although the OP should have had Eternity/Infinity before BCA Galactus cause I believe Zom can clear him.

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
Oh please. How many times has that "destruction of lower realms" argument been used before? Odin/Seth, Galactus/Mephisto, Agamotto/Galactus, Mephisto/Satannish, etc... Everytime magical beings throw down it affects other dimensions. It didn't start or end with Shuma/Strange.


Just mentioning it because you have some weird hate for the Shuma-Gorath character and continuously try to downplay it yet at the same time you massively overrate Zom...a guy who did absolutely nothing.

No that's not what I'm arguing. The fact that Strange absorbed Arioch with ease when he's supposed to be all powerful, then going on WTFPWNing Gorath in his own realm in the stupidest way imaginable. He literally hurled a flaming ball at him. Then Gorath died.

Again, only you can't smell the massive PIS used with Arioch. Fact is, Arioch was an infinite and made of sufficient power to bust galaxies by his presence. And again, it was a flaming replica made of Shuma-Gorath's energy. You're arguing its power based on its size/shape. And it wasn't exactly a WTFPWN as you make it, considering Strange had to murder his ego to prevent Gorath from consuming him. Shuma survived but an aspect of Strange was murdered. Even still, it's lolworthy how you're trying to make it as if it was Strange the mortal who did this. It's even said explicitly during their battle that their was hardly any aspect of Doctor Strange left and that he was a God at that point.


The LT didn't even have to make an appearance it was so beneath him

LOL at you thinking the Living Tribunal appeared because he was remotely concerned about Zom's "power" at all.

Fact : Somehow, somewhere, Dormammu got the Chains of Living Bondage on Zom's hands

Makes Zom look very bad. Dormammu imprisoned Zom. How embarrassing.


Fact : Even so bound, his power dwarfed Dormammu's

Obviously not by much because Dormammu was able to bind Zom. And Shuma's power dwarfs Dormammu's a great deal so what's your point?

Fact : Eternity had to step in and imprison him (not even destroy him)

It isn't even said that they battled. Quit trying to make it like Eternity's involvement was such a huge deal lol

Fact : Once released, Strange/Ancient One or Umar couldn't stop him

Nobody could stop Shuma's return to Earth and Strange had to murder the Ancient One who succumbed to Shuma's power instantly.

Fact : Umar stated that if those manacles come off, it's game over (even with them on he was melting her spells with ease)

So because Umar couldn't stop Zom that means he's beyond Eternity now?
laughing

Fact : He started to break his chains (but not the manacles yet) before the LT arrived

After all those years he's finally able to almost break his chains put on him by Dormammu. Oh yea, super impressive.

Fact : He was about to kill Strange/Ancient One before LT arrived\

Conjecture, conjecture, conjecture. Stop posting.

Fact : The LT tried to kill him, but Zom survived as a sliver of his former power and can reform into the full Zom if given a chance

The Living Tribunal never tried to kill Zom. He appeared, Zom shat himself, LT waved his hand and Zom went bye bye.

Fact : Strange bested Arioch with ease in his own dimension

Again, only you can't smell the massive PIS.

Fact : Strange killed Gorath in his own dimension

It wasn't Strange the mortal. It was Strange/Arioch the God who already had massive prep, magical backing from The Vishanti and Cyttorak, and had already started turning into Shuma-Gorath in the process. I love how desperate you are to downplay Shuma.


See the HUGE difference?

Yea, the huge difference is that Shuma-Gorath actually has things to back up its power whereas Zom...oh yea, he was put in chains by Dormammu and stalemated a regular Doctor Strange laughing


More BS, there was even a quote from the writer of the whole WWH story arc stating Strange was merely channelling a fraction of Zom's power, that's the only reason the planet was still on it's axis.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=130244&highlight=war+room

Because when all of Zom was on earth previously the Earth wasn't on its axis anymore right? Happy Dance

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep through the night.


laughing Quit being so butthurt. Zom's nothing special.

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether
laughing Quit being so butthurt. Zom's nothing special.

You've brought nothing to this discussion that proves Gorath is anything more than an over-rated Cthulhu clone.

Strange, and even some un-named shaman working for Crom, have bested Gorath. Strange killed both he and his lieutenant in their own realms where they are supposedly all powerful.

You can call it PIS, I'd agree if it happens once, but twice?

Strange never beat Zom. Strange was about to be killed by Zom. The LT never bothered with Gorath. The LT himself was needed to destroy Zom. Zom survived the LT's wrath.

You can keep banging your head against the wall trying to ignore these facts but they won't go away.

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
You've brought nothing to this discussion that proves Gorath is anything more than an over-rated Cthulhu clone.

I've already proved he's more powerful than Zom. That's all that needed to be done. I'm not making claims that he's a top-tier in Marvel, simply that he's superior to Zom.

Strange, and even some un-named shaman working for Crom, have bested Gorath. Strange killed both he and his lieutenant in their own realms where they are supposedly all powerful.

Gorath in Conan was written far differently than Shuma-Gorath as written by Steve Englehart. Hell they even looked entirely different. You can't even compare the two. Besides, nothing in Crom effected Marvel continuity. Marvel only recognizes it because they published Conan for a while.

You can call it PIS, I'd agree if it happens once, but twice?

What happened twice? The only PIS instance was Strange forcing an infinitely more powerful entity to merge with him since, I donno, he's never been able to do that before or after that instance.

Strange never beat Zom. Strange was about to be killed by Zom.

Zom was stalemating with Strange and never was it shown that Strange was about to die. Quit making up stories.

The LT never bothered with Gorath.

Sise-Neg had dispatched Shuma beforehand. Also, Shuma-Gorath was never trying to destroy earth, just rule it. Zom was trying to destroy earth. Big difference.

The LT himself was needed to destroy Zom.

Needed? No. Not even close.

Zom survived the LT's wrath.

What's there to survive? He was teleported to a different universe, he was never attacked. He would have been completely annihilated had LT bothered attacking him.

You can keep banging your head against the wall trying to ignore these facts but they won't go away.

Facts are different from your false bologna.

Happy Dance

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether
Happy Dance

Incredible. Even after stating what happened on panel almost word for word you still live in a little bubble unreachable by facts.

You can believe what you want at this point. But anyone who cares to get the issues mentioned can see for themselves.

Gorath was beaten and bound up by a nameless shaman working for Crom. This is stated in his official bio from Marvel. Galan007 even posted it.

Gorath's "all powerful" lieutenant was beaten and absorbed by Strange.

Gorath was beaten and then killed by Strange in his own realm where he is supposedly omnipotent.

I believe Strange handed Gorath his ass again off panel recently too.

Strange never beat Zom.

Strange was about to be killed by Zom till the LT showed up.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8619/strangetales157030.th.jpg

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That's all there is to it.

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
Gorath was beaten and bound up by a nameless shaman working for Crom. This is stated in his official bio from Marvel. Galan007 even posted it.

*sigh* of course you never actually read the damn issue did ya? Beaten and bound? Shuma killed the shaman with ease and the magical energy from Crom came from the Iron Bound Books and imprisoned Shuma within the mountain. Was that a battle? No. Was Shuma even harmed? No. It's amazing that you put so much into this instance considering you want to place so much emphasis on how powerful Zom is after Dormammu put him in chains and he got trapped in a vase.

Gorath's "all powerful" lieutenant was beaten and absorbed by Strange.

You yourself are pointing out the massive PIS with Strange forcing Arioch to merge with himself. Either you pretend to be an idiot or you just really are a massive dolt.

Gorath was beaten and then killed by Strange in his own realm where he is supposedly omnipotent.

All demons/Gods are supposedly omnipotent within their realms, that is until someone with a higher degree of omnipotence invades. But again, Strange/Arioch became Shuma's equal and it was Shuma's energy that defeated it, not Strange's energy. Strange/Arioch was almost consumed by Shuma's energy and almost became Shuma-Gorath later, had he not released Shuma's energy that was about to corrupt him. So it was Shuma-Gorath that killed Shuma-Gorath.

I believe Strange handed Gorath his ass again off panel recently too.

Strange had to lead the battle to Stonehenge to use its mystic energies in order to create a portal that would send Shuma back home. Strange was almost killed by a severely weakened and hungry Shuma-Gorath just trying to activate a portal. I see you love to mention low showings to try and suit your argument. Doesn't work, homeslice. Or shall we say that Galactus is a weak POS because Strange managed to KO a starving one by using the Images of Ikkon?

Strange never beat Zom.

Strange was about to be killed by Shuma within the Ancient One's mind so mentioning that Zom was about to kill Strange doesn't help your argument at all.

Strange was even stalemating Zom before the Ancient One imbued him with some magic power, yet you want to make it seem like a guy who can't even kill a regular Doctor Strange is a match for Eternity? Your logic fails.

It's even suggested many times that Shuma-Gorath was Strange's greatest foe yet, and Shuma premiered far after Zom already shat himself and was sent packing.

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether


Yup here we go again.

Shuma was handed his ass on earth (Strange, Nameless Shaman (according to his OFFICIAL Handbook Entry from Marvel, Crom (according to you) and in his own realm (by Strange).

Shuma's "all-powerful" lieutenant was handed his ass by Strange in his own realm.

Shuma never registered on the LT's "give a damn meter".

Strange/Ancient One did nothing to Zom. And it took the LT to "destroy" him. Strange/Ancient One never killed Zom. Strange/Ancient One never defeated Zom. Zom had Strange/Ancient One down and dazed yet stopped in his attack because the LT made an appearance.

You can run, play word games, and pester till the Mod locks this thread but none of that will change.

Uriel005
How many dimensions has Zom claimed in comparison to Shuma... Oh wait lol I said it before he's still working on just the one.

zopzop
YOu realize "dimensions" aren't universes despite what some people claim right?

Do they have inhabitants (what abilities do these inhabitants have)? Abstractions (like Death, Eternity, etc...), how large are they?

He conquered 1000 dimensions and gets his ass kicked in his own by a human sorcerer. Good job.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Uriel005
How many dimensions has Zom claimed in comparison to Shuma... Oh wait lol I said it before he's still working on just the one.
Well given how Zom was imprisoned in a vase for about a billion years, it's not like he COULD have been conquering. Hell by that logic Dormammu is above both of them.

CortSether
Originally posted by zopzop
YOu realize "dimensions" aren't universes despite what some people claim right?


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/LeprosyMachine/Dim_are_Uni.jpg

Happy Dance

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/LeprosyMachine/Dim_are_Uni.jpg

Happy Dance



Care to answer this quesiton? wink

CortSether
Damn right I'm bumping this thread. >:0

Colossus-Big C
the thing about these guys is that most of them have never shown there full power before all of this is speculation

zopzop
Colossus is 100% correct. But at least Zom never lost to Strange.

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