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colossus in metal form
rogue
rockslide
strong guy

Some mutants are immortal, like Apocalypse living for thousands of years even before enhancing himself with tech
Some immortal mutants need to absorb energy of some kind to remain young, like Selene
Some mutants age very slowly, like Wolverine

I wonder if Mystique is immortal, she is around Logan`s age maybe older.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
for exapmle wolverine
colossus in metal form
rogue
rockslide
strong guy

colossus can't stay in metal form forever.

Originally posted by -Pr-
colossus can't stay in metal form forever. why not?

Originally posted by Mshinu


I wonder if Mystique is immortal, she is around Logan`s age maybe older.

I think Mystique just ages slow like Logan, they've pretty much explained that her shape-shifting greatly retards her aging.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
for exapmle wolverine
colossus in metal form
rogue
rockslide
strong guy

Why are Rogue and Strong Guy on this list?

And Rockslide is a psionic entity.....so he could be considered immortal....unless his energy just fades for some reason and he ceases to exist.

@Pr He's never been shown to have to turn back to normal. He stayed metal about a week before until he willingly changed back. Although there's no reason to think his aging stops while he's transformed.

Originally posted by KingD19
I think Mystique just ages slow like Logan, they've pretty much explained that her shape-shifting greatly retards her aging.



Why are Rogue and Strong Guy on this list?

And Rockslide is a psionic entity.....so he could be considered immortal....unless his energy just fades for some reason and he ceases to exist.

@Pr He's never been shown to have to turn back to normal. He stayed metal about a week before until he willingly changed back. Although there's no reason to think his aging stops while he's transformed.

there's that too.

no beacuse if they were we would all be dead!!!

You guys forgot Jean Gray: no matter how many times she gets killed off some writer brings her back eventually.

mystique is not quite as old as wolverine, but she pretty closes. She may not age it, never been really stated either way.

Wolverine may not age at all. To be honest he yet to age at all in past 100 years. I don't believe he does age.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
mystique is not quite as old as wolverine, but she pretty closes. She may not age it, never been really stated either way.

Wolverine may not age at all. To be honest he yet to age at all in past 100 years. I don't believe he does age.
I think it's been stated that every time she uses her shape-shifting to change form her cells get rejuvenated, meaning she's potentially biologically immortal.

And while I don't know if she's as old as Wolverine I know she's over 100. She was alive during the Victorian era IIRC.

Obviously Wolverine ages. He's aged since he developed his powers, and he talks about aging, he's never just said I don't age anymore.

Some mutants live a shorter time, some a longer. It varies based on powers and other factors.

I wonder why Wolvie didn`t appear to have aged in Here comes tomorrow (150 years into the future). Most future "what ifs" and timelines depict him with varying older apperances.

No idea, but like you said, in just about every other future incarnation, it's obvious he's aged. Old Man Logan, that thing with the half human/half robot things....where they melted him with acid, etc...

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
mystique is not quite as old as wolverine, but she pretty closes. She may not age it, never been really stated either way.

Wolverine may not age at all. To be honest he yet to age at all in past 100 years. I don't believe he does age.

If Logan didn't age at all, he would be stuck at 13 or so when his X gene activated. He must have aged some to get to the point that he's at now

Originally posted by Omgu8mynewt
If Logan didn't age at all, he would be stuck at 13 or so when his X gene activated. He must have aged some to get to the point that he's at now

Not neccecarily, Selene and Apocalypse both grew to full adulthood before ageing halted.

Logan does appear to age, but is it possible that he would age slower without adamantium?

Originally posted by KingD19
No idea, but like you said, in just about every other future incarnation, it's obvious he's aged. Old Man Logan, that thing with the half human/half robot things....where they melted him with acid, etc...
actaully in most of the closest alternate realities Logan does not age.

He did not age in old man Logan, that was from stress. In fantastic Force which is the same reality, wolveirne 500 years in the future looks like he always does and the gray vanished.

Also even in age of the future past, in the mini his gray is gone again many years after the event. People assume gray = old, but in fact it a sign of stress.

Originally posted by KingD19
Obviously Wolverine ages. He's aged since he developed his powers, and he talks about aging, he's never just said I don't age anymore.
He has not aged since hitting his prime in fact that disprove your point. The fact he aged normally untill his prime which then stop suggests his age has been halted permently. Because if he in facted aged he would have remained aging at the same rate.

Logan yet to mention that he body gotten older and he has yet to age since hitting his prime. He has question himself as well as others if he in fact immortal.

Originally posted by Omgu8mynewt
If Logan didn't age at all, he would be stuck at 13 or so when his X gene activated. He must have aged some to get to the point that he's at now why would his healing factor attack the hormones that activate during puberty? they're not harmful and they're natural.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
actaully in most of the closest alternate realities Logan does not age.

He did not age in old man Logan, that was from stress. In fantastic Force which is the same reality, wolveirne 500 years in the future looks like he always does and the gray vanished.

Also even in age of the future past, in the mini his gray is gone again many years after the event. People assume gray = old, but in fact it a sign of stress.

He has not aged since hitting his prime in fact that disprove your point. The fact he aged normally untill his prime which then stop suggests his age has been halted permently. Because if he in facted aged he would have remained aging at the same rate.

Logan yet to mention that he body gotten older and he has yet to age since hitting his prime. He has question himself as well as others if he in fact immortal.

Umm, wouldn`t a strong healing factor prevent hair going gray because of stress? Has his hair gone gray like this before?

I guess it is not impossible that Wolvie is immortal and only seems to age when "stressed", but it sounds like a stretch to say the least. On the other hand it would add another layer of meaning to Logan "being what Romulus wants to be". Shrug, I doubt the various writers had the same thing in mind anyway.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Umm, wouldn`t a strong healing factor prevent hair going gray because of stress? Has his hair gone gray like this before?

I guess it is not impossible that Wolvie is immortal and only seems to age when "stressed", but it sounds like a stretch to say the least. On the other hand it would add another layer of meaning to Logan "being what Romulus wants to be". Shrug, I doubt the various writers had the same thing in mind anyway.
No really, becuase it not becoming anything less, it simply changing colors. If one is in constant state of stress it remain.




He not aging. Simply becuase your hair grey does not make you older. I know friggin 18 year old kids who had gray hair.

Not really a stretch at all. We know for a fact that Wolverine from old man Logan lives another 500 years, we know his hair goes back to normal. We know he has not age at all.

Then in days of the future past the original one had him gray hair (but remember back then Logan barly even had a healing factor at the time) this was reconnted in Wolverine weapon x days of the future past which happens several years later maybe even a decade later and Wolverine is as young as ever.


People are assuming that he ages because of what again? alternate realities? except the three closest realities to 616 have him not aging, so I think it a stretch to say the least that he does age.

Uh, people think Wolvie ages because he is depicted with an older apperance sometimes, simple as that. Also he appears in his 40s, so he did not stop ageing when he reached full adulthood. Of course there could be any number of reasons for this, but insisting he must be immortal is at best selective reading. Anyway I don`t care one way or the other, I imagine a story will come along that explains it fully before or later.

Grey hair is not "changing color", it lacks pigment.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Uh, people think Wolvie ages because he is depicted with an older apperance sometimes, simple as that. Also he appears in his 40s, so he did not stop ageing when he reached full adulthood. Of course there could be any number of reasons for this, but insisting he must be immortal is at best selective reading. Anyway I don`t care one way or the other, I imagine a story will come along that explains it fully before or later.

Grey hair is not "changing color", it lacks pigment.

I the one with selective read? Lets look at your evidences shall we? I mean your entire agruement have been that Logan not immortal based off what again? oh yea non 616 cannon comics. Oh wait and which runs were this

Old man Logan? which was caused from stress proven by the fact Fantastic force which is the same Wolverine, not only lives another 500 years, but he look as young as ever. So there goes that evidence.


Days of the future past? Which was prior to wolverine powers being established and is debatable if he even had a healing factor during the time adn certainly was not regeneration like it later evolved into. Oh wait there also another added on run to this same universe which takes place years after which is called Wolverine days of the future past, inwhich Logan again looks young as ever.

so the only evidence any one has even presented for why Logan is not immortal has been non 616 cannon and even then both of which shown in later runs that he infact did not age.

So I sorry, but you have nothing at all, even your non cannon refferences contradict your arguement.

I hope you one day will stop running in circles around yourself...

Originally posted by Mshinu
I hope you one day will stop running in circles around yourself...
awesome tactic. You have nothing so you revert to throwing out irrelevant red herrings in some lame attempt to save face.........arnt you the man

I'm pretty sure he was being serious.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_Wolverine_piano_03.jpg

fourth and fifth pannel down.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_Wolverine_piano_03.jpg

fourth and fifth pannel down.

you consider that proof?

Originally posted by -Pr-
you consider that proof?
no personally, I am not sure what to consider it as, that why I posted it. But at least it 616 and not an alternate reality.



though wolverine is suppose to be an enhanced version of Romulus and he been alive for thousands of years.

I have a comic where wolverine says he's not sure if he'll ever die (to himself). not really proof but shows that he isn't sure *shrugs*. i'll see if i can get the scan

In X-men Forever, due to the extra powers of being a mutant, mutants burn out faster and have shorter life-spans.

Originally posted by Q99
In X-men Forever, due to the extra powers of being a mutant, mutants burn out faster and have shorter life-spans.

What if their mutation/power(s) happens to be extreme longevity?

Good thing Forever isn't canon.

Yes it is.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it is.
It not to the 616 universe.

Yes it is.

Forever is not canon, nor is it 616.

When you show us proof that it is, then we'll believe you.

Logan ages really slowly. Old Man Logan.

Forever is a canon world, specifically 161. It is definitely different in that aspect from 616.


Originally posted by Robtard
What if their mutation/power(s) happens to be extreme longevity?

Then they still end up long-lived for mutants and perhaps still pretty long-lived in general, I think they mentioned that Wolverine probably would've lived a pretty long time.


Sabertooth is old (in 161 I think he is Logan's father), but due to the burnout effect, his healing factor is winding down. He can no longer regrow stuff like a lost hand or eyes.


A few, very few, mutants are immune to burnout. Mystique and Nightcrawler only so far (and Rogue may have stolen Kurt's).

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it is.
no it not, and you saying it is over and over does not make it so.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Logan ages really slowly. Old Man Logan.
again please read posts above, it was stress, I already stated this, fantastic force which is the same wolverine from old man Logan except it takes place 500 years after old man logan's ending and he young as ever.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no it not, and you saying it is over and over does not make it so. Yes it is.

You saying over and over that it isn't doesn't mean it's not.

Sure, the 2001 version is canon, nobodies denying that. The series you're talking about where they burn out is the 2009 series.


2009 series

In February 2009, Marvel announced a second X-Men Forever, which began its run on June 10, 2009. The second title bears no relation to the earlier comic.

The series, written by veteran X-Men author Chris Claremont, was a continuation of his storylines for Uncanny X-Men and X-Men that were never enacted after his resignation from the title and Marvel Comics following X-Men #3. It ran as semimonthly as a regular title, set in an alternate continuity of the Marvel Universe.

Alternate universe means it's not canon with 616.

If mutants burned out in 616 and died young, we wouldn't have Selene and Apocalypse, who are both thousands of years old.

Gateway is old as dirt, and seems either slow aging or immortal.

Sinister is hundreds of years old.

See where I'm going with this? Forever is alt U, therefore not canon.

I'm talking about the 2001 series.

Originally posted by KingD19
If mutants burned out in 616 and died young, we wouldn't have Selene and Apocalypse, who are both thousands of years old.

Gateway is old as dirt, and seems either slow aging or immortal.

Sinister is hundreds of years old.

See where I'm going with this? Forever is alt U, therefore not canon.

Poccy can control the molecules in his body + Celestial cryo.
Sinister has mastered genetics.
Selene was a vampire who could absorb lifeforces.
Gateway was a freakin Shaman.

So those skillls don't really add to a mutants potential of immoratality.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'm talking about the 2001 series.


They didn't burn out in the 2001 series, that's the 2009 series.

And Ninjak, Apocalypse was around for thousands of years before he even found and started using Celestial tech.

I'll give you Selene, and Sinister.

But Gateway has always been as old as dirt...and doesn't show any signs of dying.

I didn't say they did.

I see what you did there.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'm talking about the 2001 series.
we talking about the newer one, which is most certainly not cannon.

No mutant is immortal.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No mutant is immortal.

That's where you're wrong.

Selene
Apocalypse
Any mutant made of energy
Mr.M

etc...

Originally posted by KingD19
That's where you're wrong.

Selene
Apocalypse
Any mutant made of energy
Mr.M

etc...
wolverine..........

I see what you did there.

lol

To be honest I don 't think he ages. Reason being is that many individuals who have study him also have come to similar conclusions that he may in fact be Immortal. Also the fact since hitting his prime he has not age a single day. Then there the whole thing about the fact he Romulas plus, and Romulas him self is several millennium old. Then there the here comes tommarrow story line, as well as fantastic force which seems to support this.

However I agree he can be killed however, I simply don't believe age can kill him, as long as he has his powers.
However even if his body dies his soul reincarnate so in the purist of senses he truelly is immortal all across the board. He technically from as far back as the ice age.

what about................................MR. IMMORTAL?

not a mutant.

Originally posted by KingD19
not a mutant.
He a mutant I almost positive. He even mention in 199 or whatever book which explains all of the known existing mutants powers I believe. I could be worng but I could have sworn he was a mutant.

Originally posted by KingD19
not a mutant. he a mutant

Nope, he's not Homo Superior, he's Homo Supreme. When he died, Eternity or some other high end being told him he was gonna live till everything was all over.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he a mutant

http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/10398/95eace103970064.jpg


Credit to Galan007 for the scan.

Thanks for proving my point ST.

Originally posted by KingD19
Thanks for proving my point ST. He is a mutant

Originally posted by KingD19
That's where you're wrong.

Selene
Apocalypse
Any mutant made of energy
Mr.M

etc...

No. Tell me when they survive the destruction and go untouched into the new born new universe. Then they are truly imortal.
Being 10000 years old is hardly immortal.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No. Tell me when they survive the destruction and go untouched into the new born new universe. Then they are truly imortal.
Being 10000 years old is hardly immortal. thats not what immortal is, and if your trying to say galactus is immortal, no he isnt

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats not what immortal is, and if your trying to say galactus is immortal, no he isnt

I didn't imply on Galan. Of course he isn't. So like I said, no mutant is really immortal.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I didn't imply on Galan. Of course he isn't. So like I said, no mutant is really immortal. Mr Immortal will survive the end of the universe

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Mr Immortal will survive the end of the universe

You really think that in previous universe there wasn't someone like Mr Immortal? It's just a cycle going in circle.

When he does, tell me about it.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He is a mutant

I disagree from looking at the scan you can see they made a distinction between them.

Homo Sapien - Human

Homo Superior - Mutant

Homo Supreme - Mr Immortal

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I disagree from looking at the scan you can see they made a distinction between them.

Homo Sapien - Human

Homo Superior - Mutant

Homo Supreme - Mr Immortal but his powers came from the xgene armright?

Originally posted by Xplosive
No. Tell me when they survive the destruction and go untouched into the new born new universe. Then they are truly imortal.
Being 10000 years old is hardly immortal.
thats not true, there a different forms of immortality. In it most general sense, simply means one does not age. Such as the highlander.

Originally posted by Xplosive
. Of course he isn't. So like I said, no mutant is really immortal.
By your definition, Wolverine might be.

What makes you think that Wolverine can survive the destruction of the entire 616 universe?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
thats not true, there a different forms of immortality. In it most general sense, simply means one does not age. Such as the highlander. In the most general sense it means one can not die. Not aging is actually a more specific type which some scientists don't even consider immortality.

Originally posted by Mindset
In the most general sense it means one can not die. Not aging is actually a more specific type which some scientists don't even consider immortality.
sorry, I was wrong, I was taking it from a comic/ fantasy senses. Normally simply means one does not age in comics and fantasy, but can die. Like vampires, high lander, apoc ect.

Originally posted by jalek moye
What makes you think that Wolverine can survive the destruction of the entire 616 universe?
maybe, he could final rest in piece, but I doubt it. He most likely just reanimate again once world rebooted.

He eternal warrior. He been around since almost the dawn of time. His body would die but he recarnate.

I'm pretty sure when the universe is destroyed all the spirits of the dead of that verse are too. Assuming this is a soul thing i mean, besides it isn't really Wolverine in that case now is it. Since I'm assuming that he isn't the same person in every cycle. (or if this is even the case still. they retcon things so often without noice)

Originally posted by jalek moye
I'm pretty sure when the universe is destroyed all the spirits of the dead of that verse are too. Assuming this is a soul thing i mean, besides it isn't really Wolverine in that case now is it. Since I'm assuming that he isn't the same person in every cycle. (or if this is even the case still. they retcon things so often without noice)

What your thinking about is different, here an explanation of what I am talking about. This has been part of his character way before that whole angle of death thing.


1. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3541/mwarriorspirittk1.jpg
2. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8917/mwarriorspirit2vy0.jpg
3. http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8414/mwarriorspirit3vf9.jpg
4. http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6958/mwarriorspirit4jt2.jpg

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
but his powers came from the xgene armright?

I think he has a different gene in place of the xgene.

No I'm talking about what you're talking about. I mean h never refrences it or anything talks about his life in singular terms. And doesn't seem to have all these memroies, I'm also wondering if he is really the same person. In the sense of persinality and all that or is just reincarnated to be similar yet different.

Comic companies sometimes retcon things off record.

Seems something that is ignored imo

Originally posted by jalek moye
No I'm talking about what you're talking about. I mean h never refrences it or anything talks about his life in singular terms. And doesn't seem to have all these memroies, I'm also wondering if he is really the same person. In the sense of persinality and all that or is just reincarnated to be similar yet different.

Comic companies sometimes retcon things off record.

Seems something that is ignored imo

It been referenced before, this is not even the first time it was referenced. It original from his Ba'al mini. It was also mention and was the focus of another entire mini as well. Then there this book as well as other time it was brought forth. It was never ignored or retcon. I have no idea why you would think it was.

He the same soul/person. He simply recarnates every time he dies. This current body just happens to be a mutant. He also in other bodies has shown the ability to heal wounds as well.

also I can present scans if you wish in which is states while berserker he grant accesses to all those life times of memory. He is most certainly connected, just not on a conscious level.

Immortality is generalized as not aging, or not being able to die by ordinary means.

It doesn't mean surviving the death of one universe and living into another.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
thats not true, there a different forms of immortality. In it most general sense, simply means one does not age. Such as the highlander.

How can you already consider Highlander or even less Wolverine immortal, when they are only, actually so ridiculously young?

Wolverine can die by much less then destruction of a universe.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He the same soul/person. He simply reincarnates every time he dies. This current body just happens to be a mutant. He also in other bodies has shown the ability to heal wounds as well.

This is true. If we talk about souls, then everyone are immortal, but no body is immortal. It dies at least with a universe and then reincarnates in a new body, new role.

I honestly don't know where you got this twisted logic that only someone who survives one universe and pops up in another is immortal. The only person who did that was Galactus, and technically he didn't live through the end of his. He merged with the old universe, and was reborn in the new one.

Originally posted by KingD19
I honestly don't know where you got this twisted logic that only someone who survives one universe and pops up in another is immortal.

It's not twisted, it simply is and it's logical.

It's simple. One that is truly immortal is eternal. So, he can't die, not only by aging, he remains untouched. How can someone be immortal when he dies (at least with the destruction of the universe). When the age of the universe ends, so does everyone else and it starts again. So no body is really immortal. Nor Galactus. Wolverine is not even 200 years (or even if seen in the future, which is also very young) and you already talking about immortality. That is twisted.
So no material body is truly immortal.

Your quite mistaken upon how old Wolverine is. I already post scans. his current body is 100 plus, his soul however is much much older then that and is eternal. In fact they directly state in my scan that he the "eternal Warrior"

Originally posted by Xplosive



This is true. If we talk about souls, then everyone are immortal, but no body is immortal. It dies at least with a universe and then reincarnates in a new body, new role.
Yes but he gets reborn making him in fact immortal. He never remains dead. He is forever to recarnate.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yes but he gets reborn making him in fact immortal. He never remains dead. He is forever to recarnate.

Yes, but that counts for all beings, not just him.

That is why I said:

Originally posted by Xplosive
So no body is really immortal.
So no material body is truly immortal.

There are mutants that with there natural ability could infact live forever.

But they can also be destoryed.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
sorry, I was wrong, I was taking it from a comic/ fantasy senses. Normally simply means one does not age in comics and fantasy, but can die. Like vampires, high lander, apoc ect. Oh yea, in comics you're right.

Originally posted by the ninjak
There are mutants that with there natural ability could infact live forever.

But they can also be destoryed.

And in time it always comes to an end and destruction of the universe.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, but that counts for all beings, not just him.

That is why I said:
........what other comic book being do you know that recarnates over and over?


This is not true for all beings at all.......

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
........what other comic book being do you know that recarnates over and over?


This is not true for all beings at all.......

Every comic book being reincarnates. Maybe they show for Wolverine that he remembers it, but if others don't, that doesn't mean anything.

If Logan reincarnates, so does other. It doesn't need to show. It's common sense. They are all living beings.
All beings reinacrnates after the body stops working. It leaves and enters other body. Wolverine isn't anything special.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Every comic book being reincarnates. Maybe they show for Wolverine that he remembers it, but if others don't, that doesn't mean anything.

If Logan reincarnates, so does other. It doesn't need to show. It's common sense. They are all living beings.
All beings reinacrnates after the body stops working. It leaves and enters other body. Wolverine isn't anything special.
There zero evidences that other comic characters recarnate. Your just making up absolute bullshit.



No they don't. Just becuase Logan does, does not mean others do. Maybe you should read my scans I posted before trying to argue something you clearly have very little knowledge of. He recarnates for a reason, it his character he the eternal warrior.



No they don't not in comics. Your trying to put your religious views on comics, when they arnt the same. Just because you believe everyone recarnates does not mean in comics they do. There is zero evidences for your arguement.

Congratulations Xplosive...you got me and Dum Dum to agree on something.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There zero evidences that other comic characters recarnate. Your just making up absolute bullshit.



No they don't. Just becuase Logan does, does not mean others do. Maybe you should read my scans I posted before trying to argue something you clearly have very little knowledge of. He recarnates for a reason, it his character he the eternal warrior.



No they don't not in comics. Your trying to put your religious views on comics, when they arnt the same. Just because you believe everyone recarnates does not mean in comics they do. There is zero evidences for your arguement.

I just can't believe. Are you actually in love with Logan and you want to convince yourself with that, that he is actually something special?
Apocalypse changes body one from another all the time. Body got old, burned, but he didn't, and needs to change the body.
So it's evident he is aslo spirit. The same goes for everyone else.
They are all immortal spirits. You need to get it drawn?

What you seem to get confused is that what it tries to say is that Logan seems to reincarnate always in the same role.

If something here is bullshit, it's bullshit for stupidity.

Apocalypse was around for a few thousand years in the same body before he needed to get a new body every so often. And that was from the celestial tech burning him out.

It doesn't matter after how much time. Body burns, dies, becomes useless, his spirit changes it.

And then let's go. Dum Dum Dugan and you agreed with him, needs evidence for. I gave you Apocalypse. Spirit that changes the body, only that he doesn't get memeories lost. But uses differetn bodies.

Then you think:

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There zero evidences that other comic characters recarnate. Your just making up absolute bullshit.

So you need evidence. So in your head goes; if no evidence, it's not the case.
So TOAA made some unimportant Logan, unimportant the the core in unimportant role compare to cosmics, immortal spirit, while his greatest servants someone like Living Tribunal, Phoenix Force, you need evidence they are not like that, but just Logan?

I mean, WTF.

Selene was around for 15,000 years....her body never aged. She was literally immortal as long as she had a food source, and she only died after she became a god and was killed by the one thing that could kill her. She's probably not even dead for real.

Ok, let's say her body really doesn't age, but how can we really talk about immortality (at least body), when she is only 15000 years old?
15000 years is nothing compared to many cosmic beings.
That's nothing compared to definiton of immortality.

You're trying to base immortality off the fact that she's only been around 15,000 years...and compare her to cosmic beings who've been around longer...that's unfair. Immortality is not being able to die by natural means, and sometimes not being able to be killed. Well considering no human has ever gone past the low hundreds age wise, here being around for 15,00+ makes her immortal. As she wasn't gonna die until she got killed.

Name people you consider immortal.

It's fair, because we are talking abot immortality. Maybe if she is gettng life source from others, she could keeping it forever until the destruction of the universe. Then all ends and starts a new (that is why I said no body is really immortal, not to mention some mutant).
But 15000 years old is just not enough to say that is really immortal age wise to the end of the universe. But maybe shoud could keeping it to that time, maybe not, maybe she is also limited in that department.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I just can't believe. Are you actually in love with Logan and you want to convince yourself with that, that he is actually something special?
Not at all, you just have no evidence for your logic. You say every single hero in comcis recarnates prove it. There zero evidence for this, that simply your religious belief which holds zero weight in comics.


Originally posted by Xplosive
Apocalypse changes body one from another all the time. Body got old, burned, but he didn't, and needs to change the body.

How is that remotely that same as recarnating? he using tech to transfer his mind into a new host. He does not naturally recarnate.



Originally posted by Xplosive
So it's evident he is aslo spirit. The same goes for everyone else.
They are all immortal spirits. You need to get it drawn?

Thats not what I am talking about. Wolverine recarnates, in not simply he spirit. He will become alive again in a new body. This is unigue ability, and ther eis zero evidences that every hero does this like you tried in suggest.

Originally posted by Xplosive
What you seem to get confused is that what it tries to say is that Logan seems to reincarnate always in the same role.

If something here is bullshit, it's bullshit for stupidity.
Your arguement is stupid. Your trying to pretend ever hero recarnates when there zero evdiences for this. Please feel free to post evidences that states every beign on earth recarnates in marvel after they die, becuase that what your saying and it false and has no evidence backing it.

Originally posted by Xplosive




So you need evidence. So in your head goes; if no evidence, it's not the case.
So TOAA made some unimportant Logan, unimportant the the core in unimportant role compare to cosmics, immortal spirit, while his greatest servants someone like Living Tribunal, Phoenix Force, you need evidence they are not like that, but just Logan?

I mean, WTF.
Yes I need evidence. Yes if there no evidences, then there zero reaosn to assume every beign on marvel earth recarnates. Thats your religious view which you trying to pretend translate to comics, when it does not.


No there are other being that recarnate or are simply fully immortal. However not everyone recarnates like your trying to pretend they do. Your logic for why is flawed and completely baseless.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
How is that remotely that same as recarnating? he using tech to transfer his mind into a new host. He does not naturally recarnate.

Logan dies, changes the body. Apocalypse vessels are in verge to die, with help of the technogly he changes the body. The point is that the spirit didn't age. Just can't use it to full power if in old body.
It works the same way.
The point is that its the spirit who changes the body, just like someone dies.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thats not what I am talking about. Wolverine recarnates, in not simply he spirit. He will become alive again in a new body. This is unigue ability, and ther eis zero evidences that every hero does this like you tried in suggest.

Is not simply the spirit? Seriously? He only is the spirit. Wolverine is the spirit, not the body, that goes for everyone.

Spirit is the one that is alive, also in MU, not the body. Body can only move, because of the spirit. When someone changes the body, he was always alive. He doesn't need a new body to become alive. Spirit lives, not the body. Apocalypse body was burning out, becoming useless, yet he fully lived, only needed a new body.

I literally think that you don't know or think what you are saying.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No there are other being that recarnate or are simply fully immortal. However not everyone recarnates like your trying to pretend they do. Your logic for why is flawed and completely baseless.

Do you even realize what you are saying?

And by far the most disgusting is, you are talking about Logan and think he is something special. Some ant?

So you think if Cyclops dies, he is gone for good, but with Logan, he only changes the body (Eternal warrior)?
The point is that Marvel is concentrated on those heroes now, what they do now, not when they are in other roles. But they are all considered immortal spirits. If Logan is, so are others.

Im not sure what are you guys talking about. All sirits are immortal, but that doesnt mean every spirit reincarnates. There's heaven and hell in MU, if say Kingpin dies his immortal spirit goes to hell, it doesnt pop up in another body.

Originally posted by SamZED
Im not sure what are you guys talking about. All sirits are immortal, but that doesnt mean every spirit reincarnates. There's heaven and hell in MU, if say Kingpin dies his immortal spirit goes to hell, it doesnt pop up in another body.

But that's also reincarnation. Spirit itself is untouched, but reincarnates into another form (solid body or subtle body), now, maybe heavenly form or hellish form (demon, beastly body) or again in human form (maybe even animal form).

Originally posted by Xplosive
But that's also reincarnation. Spirit itself is untouched, but reincarnates into another form (solid body or subtle body), now, maybe heavenly form or hellish form (demon, beastly body) or again in human form (maybe even animal form). I think you're going way too deep into religion here. Its comix, and I believe you guys were talking about characters immortality. If Deadpool keeps poping up after getting incinirated that counts as immortality by comix stanarts, but when Kingpin dies and his spirit spends the rest of iternity in hell the character shouldnt be concidered immortal. Heck even if he reincarnates into a fat mean bulldog that shouldnt count as immortality. Or am I missing something?

Originally posted by SamZED
I think you're going way too deep into religion here. Its comic, and I believe you guys were talking about characters immortality. If Deadpool keeps poping up after getting incinirated that counts as immortality by comic stanarts, but when Kingpin dies and his spirit spends the rest of iternity in hell the character shouldnt be concidered immortal. Heck even if he reincarnates into a fat mean bulldog that shouldnt count as immortality. Or am I missing something?

It's not about religion. MU is treated as a material world. But it's clear they are spirits, persons (it was also shown that way). If someone like Logan is changing bodies, reincarnating, Apocaypse is changing bodies... that means that living beings in MU are considered spirits.
But focus is on the present and who cares what role they had, if they had. Who cares what was soul known as Logan now doing before (thousands years ago), The focus on him is now.
And yes, were were talking about immortality.
And forget about immortality when we have oldest mutant that is 15000 years old. That is so far from knowing it's immortal, it's ridiculous to mention even immortality. No mutant is immortal as far as we know, only long lived mutants. Look it that way. Some mutant lives 100000 years, was considered ot thought to be immortal, then dies... can you still say that mutant is immortal? No, you can't, only long lived.
Deadpool is not considered immortal in comics, never was, nor is Logan. And even if we would take that only Logan reincarnates (which is not the case, but let's say it that way), he changes bodies, so he never was in immortal body, that is why he was reincarnating and also now he is in the body that's not immortal.
Like I said before, no body is immortal.

Where and when was hell considered eternal in MU? How can be it eternal, when even 616 universe or other universes in MU were clearly shown that they aren't eternal?

That is IF other characters changed bodies, but not all characters in marvel reincarnate, at least ive never heard of that to be the case. Spiritual immortality was not the subject I believe. Spider-man's spirit is immortal, he himself isn't. Marvel living beings aren't JUST spirits but flesh and blood as well. Having immortal spirit and not being able to permanently die isnt the same thing. And Deadpool is immortal, was said to be that on many occasions. Not just his spirit like say with Spider-man but the character. As in, no matter what you do he'll always be the Deadpool. And not just spirit floating somewhere.

Originally posted by SamZED
That is IF other characters changed bodies, but not all characters in marvel reincarnate, at least ive never heard of that to be the case. Spiritual immortality was not the subject I believe. ir spirits are immortal the characters arent. Having immortal spirit and not being able to permanently die isnt the same thing. And Deadpool is immortal, was said to be that on many occasions. Not just his spirit like say with Spider-man but the character.

Then shown me the fact that Deadpool is immortal? When he dies, will you still be able to say ''Deadpool was immortal?'', while he is dead.

And we can actually say that even universe reincarnates. It dies and it's reborn, fact in MU.

Originally posted by SamZED
As in, no matter what you do he'll always be the Deadpool.

I will use what KMC members are doing.

Show me that fact, or this isn't the case. Show me that he is special?

What happens to Deadpool when universe dies?
You said he will always be known as Deadpool? Show me that he will be (that means that you have to show me he is in eternal body)? That is what KMC members mostly do. If you don't show, then that isn't the case.

And let someone show me Logan reincarnating. That means you have to show me not only memories from previous life, but that has to go to the very beginning, because I mean, someone called him eternal warrior. So that means to show when he was first seen and then reincarnating all the way to the present, to the current body.

Otherwise, it's all speculation.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I will use what KMC members are doing.

Show me that fact, or this isn't the case. Show me that he is special?

What happens to Deadpool when universe dies?
You said he will always be known as Deadpool? Show me that he will be (that means that you have to show me he is in eternal body)? That is what KMC members mostly do. If you don't show, then that isn't the case. Um.. o..key You want me to show you MU exploding and Deadpool floating in space?
You know.. for most KMC members.. (that arent butthurt that is) when characters can't be permanently killed and was stated to be immortal on-panel several times its a good enought proof of immortality. If you want me to show you that I can do it. If proofs and on-panel statements arent good enough for you.. well, then your definition of "immortality" is just different from everybody else's. Which doesnt make you right.
And out of curiosity.. Mr. Immortal also isnt immortal in your book?

Originally posted by SamZED
Heck even if he reincarnates into a fat mean bulldog that shouldnt count as immortality.

That is why I said immediately no body is immortal. That is the whole point I am trying to make all this time. No one is in immortal body.
That is why I said 15000 years old Selene, it hardly makes her immortal. When she dies, she can reincarnate into someone else. But that means her body was no different than that of Kingpin. Why, because both would reincarnate anyway. Only difference would be that she lived longer in previous body. But would still mean, she had mortal body.

That is why I also said:

Originally posted by Xplosive
And even if we would take that only Logan reincarnates (which is not the case, but let's say it that way), he changes bodies, so he never was in immortal body, that is why he was reincarnating all the time and also now he is in the body that's not immortal.
Like I said before, no body is immortal.


Originally posted by SamZED
Um.. o..key You want me to show you MU exploding and Deadpool floating in space?

Well, you did say always to be him, didn't you.

Originally posted by SamZED
You know.. for most KMC members.. (that arent butthurt that is) characters that can't be permanently killed and stated to be immortal on-panel several times is a good enought proof of immortality. If you want me to show you that I can do it. If proofs and on-panel statements arent good enough for you.. well, then your definition of "immortality" is just different from everybody else's. Which doesnt make you right.

But there have been so many characters in MU that weren't permenently killed (or brought back), and what?... are they immortal?
Who was permanently killed?
I know what you are trying to say. How can you say Deadpool will ALWAYS be known as Deadpool, while he is so ridiculosly young, so little time in a role as Deadpool,... how can you say he will always be known as Deadpool?
I see no difference between him or Cyclops with different mutant abilities. But what has Deadpool shown more than Cyclops to be always know as Deadpool and Cyclops not as Cyclops? Except different powers, which enables Deadpool to live longer. But show me that even after that he will always be known as Deadpool?
I don't even remember in BIO for someone to be considered truly immortal.

Originally posted by SamZED
And out of curiosity.. Mr. Immortal also isnt immortal in your book?

I don't know much about him?

Originally posted by SamZED
Marvel living beings aren't JUST spirits but flesh and blood as well.

That would mean when body dies, spirit dies, which was shown not to be the case in MU many times. So that would mean that flesh and blood is just a vessel. Spirit is the one who talks through mouth. Spirit is the one that watches through eyes. Spirit is the one who moves the body.
That means that also in MU living beings are considered spirits and not flesh and bodies, not at all. Body is just a vessel.

And Spider-Man is spirit. He is only now in such body that plays role of a Spider-Man. Very simple.
The same goes for Deadpool. Except if you can show me that Deadpool will awlays be in a role of a Deadpool.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Well, you did say always to be him, didn't you. I said he is immortal. And ive got proof. While you're asking me to show you MU exploding which never even happened in the comics.


Originally posted by Xplosive

But there have been so many characters in MU that weren't permenently killed (or brought back), and what?... are they immortal?
Who was permanently killed?
I know what you are trying to say. How can you say Deadpool will ALWAYS be known as Deadpool, while he is so ridiculosly young, so little time in a role as Deadpool,... how can you say he will always be known as Deadpool? What difference does it make what will he be KNOWN as? When I said he'll always be Deadpool, I meant the character, not his nickname or driving license. And being "brought back" after apperant "death" with a plot device (Spider-man, Cap America) for the sake of character selling books and having "immortaly" isnt the same thing.

Originally posted by Xplosive

I see no difference between him or Cyclops with different mutant abilities. But what has Deadpool shown more than Cyclops to be always know as Deadpool and Cyclops not as Cyclops? Except different powers, which enables Deadpool to live longer. But show me that even after that he will always be known as Deadpool?
I don't even remember in BIO for someone to be considered truly immortal. Ok first of all Deadpool isn't a mutant. Second, his immortality isn't a genetic super power but a curse. As for the difference between him and Cyclops is that Cyclops when he gets shot/stabbed/eloctrocuted/torn to pieces/melted/incenerated/nuked etc etc will die and stay dead unless some stupid PIS. While Deadpool wont no matter what. All the difference that matters. Whether he'll be known as Deadpool or not 20/100/500 years from now on wont matter. He'll be alive.


Originally posted by Xplosive

I don't know much about him? Well, his name is Mr. Immortal and he cant permanently die no matter what you do to him. That's why he's called that.
I dont even think Logan is imortal (pretty sure hes been killed permanently but brought back) All im trying to say - not everybody is immortal in comix just because their spirit is.

Originally posted by SamZED
I said he is immortal. And ive got proof.

Show me.

Originally posted by SamZED
What difference does it make what will he be KNOWN as? When I said he'll always be Deadpool, I meant the character, not his nickname or driving license. And being "brought back" after apperant "death" with a plot device (Spider-man, Cap America) for the sake of character selling books and having "immortaly" isnt the same thing.

It seems their popularity is making them immortal.

Originally posted by SamZED
Ok first of all Deadpool isn't a mutant. Second, his immortality isn't a genetic super power but a curse. As for the difference between him and Cyclops is that Cyclops when he gets shot/stabbed/eloctrocuted/torn to pieces/melted/incenerated/nuked etc etc will die and stay dead unless some stupid PIS. While Deadpool wont no matter what. All the difference that matters. Whether he'll be known as Deadpool or not 20/100/500 years from now on wont matter. He'll be alive.

Mutant or no mutant, here it's irrelevant.
When you say Deadpool won't die no matter what, it sounds like you mean no one could actually kill him.
I think you know that isn't true, just didn't think on vast scale.

Originally posted by SamZED
All im trying to say - not everybody is immortal in comix just because their spirit is.

That's what I am saying all the time. Body is not immortal.
Being 500 years old and being alive (like you said for Deadpool. All we know he reached 800 years, but that so little and all we know he only ages slowly, that is not immortal and it was never confirmed to be really immortal anyway) is nothing. He can be 100000 years, but once he dies, he just can't be considered immortal anymore.
You just can't say ''Well he lived 100000 years, so he is immortal.'' And then some other come and say ''How can he be immortal, when he is dead''. It just doesn't work that way. It's easier when he is alive and so old and say that, but once he dies, you can look back but just can't say he is/was immortal.

In AOA it was also mentioned Apocalypse being immortal (except if I don't remember it correctly), but that just didn't help him, did it. Because that just wasn't the case.

This thread is more about being immortal age wise, but I have to see the proof for that either. It wasn't confirmed anywhere for anyone to be really immortal. 15000 years just isn't enough to determine someone doesn't really age, because 15000 years is nothing compared to really not aging.

We know that even universe ages or comes to an end in MU,... so how can someone not age within an universe limited with time?

Originally posted by Xplosive

Mutant or no mutant, here it's irrelevant.
When you say Deadpool won't die no matter what, it sounds like you mean no one could actually kill him.
I think you know that isn't true, just didn't think on vast scale.
Ohh.. ok I see what you mean now. Yea, Deadpool can be torn apart, slaughtered etc, yes. Didnt mean to argue that. What I meant - he'll never stay that way. Not that his body is indestructible or something.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Show me.

K. Ill get the scans later. For now I can say it's Deadpool/Death story. He is unable to die because he actually had an affair with Death. Now she rejects him. So in that sense he's immortal. No mater what you do he doesnt stay dead. While someone like Cyclops, well like you said, they never stay dead because of popularity. That's different.

Mr. Immortal I dont remember how he got that way. But it was stated that he'll always BE. Even when the universe ends and everything stops existing he'll still live. Yet his body can "die" as well, still he is immortal.

Originally posted by SamZED
K. Ill get the scans later. For now I can say it's Deadpool/Death story. He is unable to die because he actually had an affair with Death. Now she rejects him. So in that sense he's immortal. No mater what you do he doesnt stay dead. While someone like Cyclops, well like you said, they never stay dead because of popularity. That's different.

Ok. But that is different, if he had an affair with Death. I didn't know that.

Originally posted by SamZED
Mr. Immortal I dont remember how he got that way. But it was stated that he'll always BE. Even when the universe ends and everything stops existing he'll still live. Yet his body can "die" as well, still he is immortal.

I won't argue, because I simply don't have knowledge on him.

But if we go logically, that could also be only speculation (because it didn't happen) and it's also important who said it?. I mean if someone high cosmic said it, than good, if some mutant, man, Earthling,... said it, then it's harder to accept or to take it seriously.

And if we go by that all power in reality derives from PF, then that means that also his abilities comes from PF (TOAA creation power) in the end.
In the end of the universe PF goes down and it awokes to reality again.
So that automatically means that Mister Immortal should go down at least the end of the universe, because he depends on someone else.

That could be the case, but I can't say, because I don't know Mr Immortal (only heard about him), what is his role, what he does etc...

So, better to leave it alone from my side.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Ok. But that is different, if he had an affair with Death. I didn't know that.



I won't argue, because I simply don't have knowledge on him.

But if we go logically, that could also be only speculation (because it didn't happen) and it's also important who said it?. I mean if someone high cosmic said it, than good, if some mutant, man, Earthling,... said it, then it's harder to accept or to take it seriously.

And if we go by that all power in reality derives from PF, then that means that also his abilities comes from PF (TOAA creation power) in the end.
In the end of the universe PF goes down and it awokes to reality again.
So that automatically means that Mister Immortal should go down at least the end of the universe, because he depends on someone else.

That could be the case, but I can't say, because I don't know Mr Immortal (only heard about him), what is his role, what he does etc...

So, better to leave it alone from my side. About Deadpool, it is different, yeah. I never meant he's immortal because of his healing factor. The curse is what I was referring to.

As for Mr. Im I believe it was some death related being that told him that. Dont remember what was it exactly. But definitely not some mutant speculating. I believe its in his repsect thread.

xplosive your trying to put your religious views on comics, when it not accurate.


There is a clear hell and heaven. There zero evidence that everyone can recarnate like your trying to argue. Certain characters can recarnate, but there not the norm. Those are unigue abilities only a few people have.

Wolverine ability is documented. DP ability to documented. Apoc ability is documented. Simply because they show forms of immortality, be it recarnation or changing bodies or simply being un killable due to a curse. These are unique abilities and people like cyclopes, punisher ect. Do not posses these abilities. You seem unable to grasp this, and you are projecting your religious views on comics which don't have the same view as yourself.

Here mr immortals thing.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/10398/95eace103970064.jpg


Credit to Galan007 for the scan.

Originally posted by Xplosive
And let someone show me Logan reincarnating. That means you have to show me not only memories from previous life, but that has to go to the very beginning, because I mean, someone called him eternal warrior. So that means to show when he was first seen and then reincarnating all the way to the present, to the current body.

Otherwise, it's all speculation.
I already did, but you simply ignored it for some reason.

Here Wolverine recarnation
1. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3541/mwarriorspirittk1.jpg
2. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8917/mwarriorspirit2vy0.jpg
3. http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8414/mwarriorspirit3vf9.jpg
4. http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6958/mwarriorspirit4jt2.jpg

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Originally posted by SamZED
About Deadpool, it is different, yeah. I never meant he's immortal because of his healing factor. The curse is what I was referring to.

As for Mr. Im I believe it was some death related being that told him that. Dont remember what was it exactly. But definitely not some mutant speculating. I believe its in his repsect thread.

Cool. Should check it out. Although don't know who excatly said that to Mr. Immortal.
Comics are known for exeggeration also. But of course that doesn't mean it's exeggeration in this case.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There is a clear hell and heaven. There zero evidence that everyone can recarnate like your trying to argue. Certain characters can recarnate, but there not the norm. Those are unigue abilities only a few people have.

It's not about religious, man. It's common sense, because Logan isn't anything special.
And about abilities. Unique ability would be if he would be able to reincarnate conscioussenly whenever he wanted, while he just reincarnates in natural order.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
You seem unable to grasp this, and you are projecting your religious views on comics which don't have the same view as yourself.

Sorry, but you are unable to graps a point.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Here Wolverine recarnation
1. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3541/mwarriorspirittk1.jpg
2. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8917/mwarriorspirit2vy0.jpg
3. http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8414/mwarriorspirit3vf9.jpg
4. http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6958/mwarriorspirit4jt2.jpg

What says here is just his previous lives, what he was doing. Role after a role. It doesn't even go that back and is already called Eternal warriow. :ha. Of course, he always reincarantes, just like others do.
I just can't believe you think that is only for him and not for others. Only what makes it special here, is that he actually remembers some of his previous lifes.
Reincarnation like in Logan case is not an ability like you make it out to be, just a natural order.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think it's been stated that every time she uses her shape-shifting to change form her cells get rejuvenated, meaning she's potentially biologically immortal.

And while I don't know if she's as old as Wolverine I know she's over 100. She was alive during the Victorian era IIRC.

Well according to X Men: First Class, Mystique and Prof X were of the same age. If you've seen it, you'll see around the beginning when Charles and Raven first meet, they're both kids and of the same age. There's no way she could be older to Charles. Maybe by a year at most but other than that, there's no way. According to the movies that is.

Omega level mutants are explicitly immortal, others potentially so.

Then there are those like Mr. I whose mutant power is being immortal.

He's not a mutant.

Wrong. He is a mutant, simply a higher level of mutant. Superior to Homo Superior aka Homo Supreme, baby.

Nope.

I'm right.

Omega level Mutants are not immortal! They are just powerful.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope.

I'm right.
Incorrect. You're wrong.

Originally posted by Salthasha
Omega level Mutants are not immortal! They are just powerful.

Several Omega level mutants are immortal because of their abilities.

Iceman is immortal because he can just turn to ice.
Elixir is immortal because he can halt his bodies aging process.
Franklin Richards is a reality warper so he can simply will himself to be immortal, just like every other reality warping omega level mutant.

Etc...

Originally posted by KingD19
Franklin Richards is a reality warper so he can simply will himself to be immortal, just like every other reality warping omega level mutant.
He's going to live to be more than a billion years old.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He's going to live to be more than a billion years old.

He's going to live longer than that. He was actually stated to be the one to watch the current universe die, and help Galactus usher in the existence of the new one.

And Jean Grey is immortal because the writers lack imagination, and Bobby can turn to ice, fortunately for him he has not yet irked a flametard into nuking him. And yes I like Bobby drake aka the iceman the one in x factor who trapped the Hulk in ice.

Again because some have powers that make them nigh Invulnerable age is still a constant factor and an ice sculpture even in a freezer will dissipate over the ages.

Well if omega level mutants are immortal then woot.... My favorite will live forever, that's right the Eurasian ninja with a psi knife/sword capable of world scanning without cerebro, my fav purple passion Psylocke. Yeah and shes hot, to trot ready to knock, boots or heads matters not. Shes my only precious my psy Lock.

Whats that? you say she isn't omega level? careful friend telepaths need not to hear to understand this sacrilege. Let me refer instead to the writer Rick Remender who stated she was. Oh I can see it now, me and an English tart strolling somewhere in Co. Kerry Ireland hand in hand. Her long purple hair waving in the wind, a huge smile on my face . we roll down the hills together blowing bubbles and frolicking about, we fly a Kite made from Sabertooths skin, and we live happily forever after. All the while Tery Jacks sings with his band, seasons in the sun. Inspired by me and psylocke.

ANYBODY SEEN MY BONG?

Originally posted by KingD19
He's going to live longer than that. He was actually stated to be the one to watch the current universe die, and help Galactus usher in the existence of the new one.
More than a billion years is a correct statement. And I know what his relationship is with his purple-hatted herald.

Psylocke isn't Omega. Not only has she not demonstrated Omega potential. It hasn't been stated on panel.

Psylocke is a mutant and has been reborn "better" by her brother Jamie. Her full potential was unlocked by Jean Grey from Earth-295.. She is now an Omega-level telepath.
Before that in Issue 221 it was Betsy who scanned without the aid of cerebro extreme distances and vast populations. There's an example of omega level ability.

And in interview from the writer of x-forrce : Psylocke has had her telekinesis for a long time, and considering that she was involved with Angel for even longer than that, when will she learn to fly already?

Rick Remender: I can't speak to how Psylocke has been used by all other writers, but to me, having her fly makes her too powerful. Stealthy super-ninja/burgeoning Omega-level telepath is plenty for one character, in my mind. That's not to say that she hasn't been shown to have other abilities. To be frank, her history is a bit scattered and in order to make a cohesive backstory for her, I had to make some executive decisions as to what I would and would not be using. To use it all would just be too many ingredients in the soup, and I believe would make the character less interesting and believable. nuff said snikt the panel.

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2969899.html source material for that interview.

Lol @ immortal meaning you can survive the death of the universe

Originally posted by Salthasha
Psylocke is a mutant and has been reborn "better" by her brother Jamie. Her full potential was unlocked by Jean Grey from Earth-295.. She is now an Omega-level telepath.
Before that in Issue 221 it was Betsy who scanned without the aid of cerebro extreme distances and vast populations. There's an example of omega level ability.

And in interview from the writer of x-forrce : Psylocke has had her telekinesis for a long time, and considering that she was involved with Angel for even longer than that, when will she learn to fly already?

Rick Remender: I can't speak to how Psylocke has been used by all other writers, but to me, having her fly makes her too powerful. Stealthy super-ninja/burgeoning Omega-level telepath is plenty for one character, in my mind. That's not to say that she hasn't been shown to have other abilities. To be frank, her history is a bit scattered and in order to make a cohesive backstory for her, I had to make some executive decisions as to what I would and would not be using. To use it all would just be too many ingredients in the soup, and I believe would make the character less interesting and believable. nuff said snikt the panel.
Omega class telepath and omega level mutant are not one and the same. Emma Frost and Charles Xavier are omega class telepaths, yet neither of them have been officially recognized as omega level mutants, and neither are immortal because of their powersets.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
For example:
Wolverine
Colossus (in metallic form)
Rogue
Rockslide
Strong Guy Why is Rouge on this list? And I'm not familiar enough with Strong Guy to wonder about him. Same goes for Rockslide, although, I seriously doubt psionic energy will ever disappear in the Marvel Universe for him to die. If his own psionic energy DID in fact start to disperse, what's to stop him from leeching off of some other form of psionic energy? Sort of adaptable living.