Ultron vs Sentry

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PRAYERRUN
haven't seen this one yet so who wins?

The Nuul
Sentry stomped Female Ultron. Geeeez I wonder how'd this turn out.

Nihilist
Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
haven't seen this one yet so who wins? If this is classic adamantium Ultron he gives Sentry a good fight, Phalanx Ultron wins.

PRAYERRUN
Originally posted by Nihilist
If this is classic adamantium Ultron he gives Sentry a good fight, Phalanx Ultron wins.

Yeah that's the version I was thinking of. stick out tongue

quanchi112
Sentry stomps.

Bentley
Originally posted by The Nuul
Sentry stomped Female Ultron. Geeeez I wonder how'd this turn out.


Sentry beat an Ultron built with the same materials than the Extremis armor when it became infected with a virus. Adamantium Ultron is waaaaay above that.

tkitna
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry stomps.

Black bolt z
Ultron is a high herald team wrecker at times.Primary adamantium and phanlax ultron stomp.Secondary loses a majority.

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by Bentley
Sentry beat an Ultron built with the same materials than the Extremis armor when it became infected with a virus. Adamantium Ultron is waaaaay above that. Adamantium Ultron is awesomely tough... but he essentially got beat by Savage Hulk and Wasp. Even if you consider Savage Hulk denting him an extraordinarily high feat, you're talking about Sentry here. Who nearly matched World War Hulk in strength and beat Molecule Man at his own game.

Bentley
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Adamantium Ultron is awesomely tough... but he essentially got beat by Savage Hulk and Wasp. Even if you consider Savage Hulk denting him an extraordinarily high feat, you're talking about Sentry here. Who nearly matched World War Hulk in strength and beat Molecule Man at his own game.


Ultron 11, it depends on which version we talk about, back then it hadn't started using internal forcefields to prevent Wanda from affecting it's internal components. Also Ultron -at least newer versions- can repair its adamantium shell if it's dented, that same venue of defeat is much less likely to work.

Adamantium Ultron would take what Ultron ditched in Mighty Avengers with a smile.

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by Bentley
Ultron 11, it depends on which version we talk about, back then it hadn't started using internal forcefields to prevent Wanda from affecting it's internal components. Also Ultron -at least newer versions- can repair its adamantium shell if it's dented, that same venue of defeat is much less likely to work.

Adamantium Ultron would take what Ultron ditched in Mighty Avengers with a smile. Granted. But Sentry can dent his shell with strength and exude powerful energies simultaneously. This would simulate what Savage Hulk and Wasp did, no? Furthermore, this is ignoring Sentry's formidable matter manipulation powers.

I think Shultron would just take over Ultron-11.

Bentley
ShUltron was quite amazing considering it was created on the fly on whatever was inside Tony Stark at the moment. It handled Ares and Wonderman as if they were kid, seriously team breaker material. I recall Ultron 11 having a great fight with the Avengers before going to the Secret Wars. The model was defeated with relative ease the next two times it appeared.

Ultron does have control over its own molecules to resist matter manipulation, of course it hasn't proved itself against high-end users.

OneDumbG0
^ Well like you say, high-end users like Molecule Man, much less Sentry who overpowered Molecule Man, probably wouldn't have much issue with it. Pre-HOM Wanda ended up bypassing the built-in molecular rearranger... even though Alkhema had protection against her power specifically.

Bentley
I don't think Sentry ever showed enough craftiness with his matter manipulation powers, as he stated himself he didn't have any experience using them and forced MM to do the work for him. I'm not sure the werewolf shifting would be considered the same kind of skill to bypass energy blocks. If Sentry had shown more matter manipulation it would be easy to tell how likely it would be to have such effect.

But sheer power might work just as easily.

OneDumbG0
^ Like you suggested at the end... it was the lack of craftiness that lends to the notion that he'd just wreck Ultron. He had no finesse against Molecule Man. He admitted as such. He just demonstrated superior power over molecules over Molecule Man's. I mean... Molecule Man turned Bullseye into water. Bullseye had adamantium in him. And Sentry's control over molecules was superior through sheer power.

Afterwards, it's arguable he had an epiphany. But that epiphany seems hardly necessary considering the sheer power Sentry demonstrated over molecules.

Bentley
Well I'm mostly throwing random bits of information about Ultron, because its one of the villains who actually looked good against Sentry.

But well, the fact that CIS Sentry is hard to debate and we didn't even get the version of Ultron confused

Black bolt z
I hate how people bring up the MM thing.He had better control over his own molecules then owen did over his.Even if he does have molecule control to an extent its nothing compared to owen.

OneDumbG0
^ Sentry had better control over Molecule Man's own molecules than Owen did. The second encounter wasn't about Sentry showing irresistable control over his own form... and Molecule Man realized he couldn't beat him by ripping him apart...

... it was Sentry wrecking Molecule Man's form... and Molecule Man being helpless against it. It's really hard to gloss over that: Originally posted by ankur29
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_DarkAvengers12013.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_DarkAvengers12014.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_DarkAvengers12015.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_DarkAvengers12016.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_DarkAvengers12017.jpg

Mindset
When did MM become fail?

Stoic
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Adamantium Ultron is awesomely tough... but he essentially got beat by Savage Hulk and Wasp. Even if you consider Savage Hulk denting him an extraordinarily high feat, you're talking about Sentry here. Who nearly matched World War Hulk in strength and beat Molecule Man at his own game.


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quanchi112
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I hate how people bring up the MM thing.He had better control over his own molecules then owen did over his.Even if he does have molecule control to an extent its nothing compared to owen. You can't ignore a showing simply because you hate it.

OneDumbG0
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/Thanos09.jpg

Mindset
laughing out loud

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't ignore a showing simply because you hate it. I don't.I just use the truth.And when you really look at it its not that impressive.I mean its safe to say sentry will never be reality warped but ti didn't prove he has any kind of major reality warping.Originally posted by OneDumbG0
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/Thanos09.jpg SG would stomp void as well.

quanchi112
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/Thanos09.jpg That goes against Thanos' character and isn't taken as a serious showing. He doesn't lust for ultimate objects of power anymore so I am justified in my reasoning.Originally posted by Black bolt z
I don't.I just use the truth.And when you really look at it its not that impressive.I mean its safe to say sentry will never be reality warped but ti didn't prove he has any kind of major reality warping. SG would stomp void as well. Then you must acknowledge the Void can beat MM despite his powers and cannot kill him.

Bentley
Originally posted by quanchi112
That goes against Thanos' character and isn't taken as a serious showing. He doesn't lust for ultimate objects of power anymore so I am justified in my reasoning. Then you must acknowledge the Void can beat MM despite his powers and cannot kill him.


Wait. Are you saying that the MM showing wasn't against Owen's nor Sentry's character and pulled out of someone's *ss? ermm

Warlord
IMO it was out of Owens character but not out of Sentry's since he was more Void than Sentry at the time

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by quanchi112
That goes against Thanos' character and isn't taken as a serious showing. He doesn't lust for ultimate objects of power anymore so I am justified in my reasoning. Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't ignore a showing simply because you hate it. http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/Thanos09.jpg

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
That goes against Thanos' character and isn't taken as a serious showing. He doesn't lust for ultimate objects of power anymore so I am justified in my reasoning. Then you must acknowledge the Void can beat MM despite his powers and cannot kill him. Its canon.But SG isn't taken seriously.As long as you don't claim its non canon i'm fine.

He can beat anyone trying to maniulate his molecules alone.If Owen decided to drop a mountain on void he could have beaten him.You just can't manip void.

Bentley
I don't think a mountain would've worked ermm


But I get what you mean big grin

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Bentley
I don't think a mountain would've worked ermm


But I get what you mean big grin Well if the hellicarrier did work then a mountain should.I mean the hellicarrier was 30 billion tons shot at a couple hundred miles per hour but the mountain being slow should be compensated with its weight much more then 30 billion tons.It should work.

Bentley
But the Hellcarrier... Ultron already knew eek!


http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Ultron/Fights/Iron-man%20Ultron/UltronIMvsSentry6.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Ultron/Fights/Iron-man%20Ultron/UltronIMvsSentry7.jpg

Daredevil1
Originally posted by Bentley
But the Hellcarrier... Ultron already knew eek!


http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Ultron/Fights/Iron-man%20Ultron/UltronIMvsSentry6.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Ultron/Fights/Iron-man%20Ultron/UltronIMvsSentry7.jpg

Damn Ultron stopped Sentrys punch like nothing.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bentley
Wait. Are you saying that the MM showing wasn't against Owen's nor Sentry's character and pulled out of someone's *ss? ermm What ?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/Thanos09.jpg I stated my reasoning quit trying to take over another thread with your Thanos hate. You ruin far too many threads with turning everything about Thanos.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Its canon.But SG isn't taken seriously.As long as you don't claim its non canon i'm fine.

He can beat anyone trying to maniulate his molecules alone.If Owen decided to drop a mountain on void he could have beaten him.You just can't manip void. It's not canon and goes against his character and isn't mentioned in his bios and is a joke aimed at starlin. You can think it is I don't.

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by quanchi112
I stated my reasoning quit trying to take over another thread with your Thanos hate love. You ruin far too many threads with turning everything about Thanos.

It's not canon and goes against with his character and isn't mentioned in his bios and is a joke aimed at starlin. You can think it isn't I don't. thumb up

Also, Sentry wins.

batdude123
Originally posted by batdude123
Quan. laughing out loud

Black bolt z
Originally posted by quanchi112
What ?

I stated my reasoning quit trying to take over another thread with your Thanos hate. You ruin far too many threads with turning everything about Thanos.

It's not canon and goes against his character and isn't mentioned in his bios and is a joke aimed at starlin. You can think it is I don't. Prove its non canon.

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