Ultron's machine superiority thread
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Welcome to Ultron's machine superiority thread!
I know, I know, it's a mouthful, but Ultron doesn't care about your respect; fear Ultron's power, cower at Ultron's intelligence, get annoyed by Ultron's expressionless face but whatever we fleshb- I mean, organic beings think, doesn't concern Ultron. But its abscence from the respect forum couldn't be tolerated so... Here we are.
And here it is: Ultron
Ultron appeared for the first time at Avengers v1 54 and was created by writer Roy Thomas and artist John Buscema.. Since then it established itself as one of the deadlier and more resilent Avengers foes (and by resilent I mean it's harder to find a way to permanently kill it than to keep it surviving issue after issue).
So, what's the deal with Ultron? It's a robotic genius level intelligence which keeps upgrading itself with deadly weapons, spawns bodies all around the planet and it's obsessed with the obliteration of organic life and mechanic perfection. It's also as creepy as hell, but that will become evident as we go along in this threat.
Ultron tends to wear bodies carrying enough firepower to deal with the Avengers in a regular basis; we're talking about a guy who has done a career of trashing Iron Man and Thor. In order to do so, Ultron often wears bodies made of Adamantium -which it started using before it was cool- becoming pretty much imprevious to physical damage. So there is a long history of plot devices that have been used to dispose of Ultron because it's too hard to kill it otherwise. Yet, no matter if it's soul energy, mutant hexes or Galactus, Ultron will comeback and continue its killing sprees.
So now it must be more or less clear the issue we will have when talking about Ultron, its power varies heavily depending on the body it wears; adamantium makes it night indestructible, but different bodies have different weak-points and defenses. It doesn't get any simplier when you factor Ultron having different minds, it's more or less clear that some versions of Ultron have been permanently destroyed but other independant Ultrons still exist somewhere -because the bastard comes back!. Nevertheless Ultron's mind is more or less linear, and somehow when a new Ultron its built, it shares most of the experience with its past incarnations.
And as if Ultron just wanted to annoy me, some bodies are made weaker than their past incarnations, sometimes not being made of adamantium at all. So well, Ultron's mind develops more or less like a human's -Ultron becomes more experienced as time passes- and its body performs differently depending on many outside factors -from the opposition it faces, the technology it has developped and the material it's made of-.
So Ultron's power is pretty damn plot dependant; for Vsforum proposes I highly recommend to use particular incarnations of the character or extrapolate it's experience and tech savvyness to a particular body -most of them appear in a single arc. I'll try to explain Ultron's main upgrades through history in the part named "Ultron Manual", and I'll try to justify which bodies are best fit to be used in a Vs thread.
Some Ultron bios (Thanks to Galan!):
2.- Recurring Abilities.
2.0.- Intelligence, Robotics and Biotech.
2.1.- Encephalo Ray/Mind control.
2.2.- Cheating Death
2.4.- Technnopathy & Hacking.
3.- Tech and weapons.
4.- Ultron-made Body Fights.
5.- Non-Ultron-made Body Fights
6- Phalanx Ultron.
6.1- Phalanx Tech.
6.2- Phalanx Ultron Fights.
7.- Ultron Manual.
Ultron's bodies get destroyed all the time, but Ultron somehow remains.
I'm going to explain now some of the abilities that Ultron retains through all or most of its incarnations; some of them are weapons, some of them are character traits.
First and foremost, Ultron has a genius level intellect, which makes it quite deadly and adept with tech. Not only it's brain patterns are copied from Hank Pym, who is among the smartest people on Marvel Earth, it also has its own experience and computing power to out do it's creator.
Recurring abilities 2.0:
Criti Noll -the skrull who became Hank Pym- states that Ultron is smarter than Pym, Stark and Reed Richards. Quite a flattering statement:
Future Iron Man explains to Iron-man that Ultron is smarter than they are, which we can only assume, it's a moment of honesty with himself:
Ultron may be, by its own right, Earth's greatest roboticist; it has built bodies strong enough to out-fight Thor and Wonderman and has built some of Earth's greatest robotic heroes.
Creates Victor Mancha (who as time passes will become impossible to detect as a robot):
Ultron's knowledge about organic life it's quite impressive too, it is experienced at blending organic life with machines, achieve mind-control and enhance physical prowess and had achieved so in several different ways.
Uh... Yes, that as well.
Creates a process that make human super strong and mind-controls them from a distance:
Uses S.K.I.N. tech to empower and control individuals:
Ultron explains its plan to create a synthetic race, which is later carried on by Akhlema:
The same synthetic race in capable of falling from a hellcarrier and survive (Antigone is a survivor of such race):
Recurring abilities 2.1:
For someone who doesn't care about organic life, Ultron surely spends a lot its time mind-controlling people and developping tech to affect organic minds. Heck! Its encephalo ray practically makes it a psychic. If you come to think about it, if non-organic life was so superior it would've already...
Uh... Ultron rocks
As I've said, Ultron has a knack for mind-control and mental whammies, this goes back to its very first appearance as the Crismon Cowl and his very first fight just minutes after being created!
Its first hypnosis:
Later on, Ultron develops a weapon called Encephalo Ray which induces a comma like state upon the target, this also becomes one of its recurring weapons for the years to come. Hence, when you talk about Ultron, it's pretty safe to say it has a mind-affecting weapon among its equipment even if it's not shown everytime.
Here we have the classic comma inducing beam, well presented by the Wasp in case the reader is not aware of it:
This may seem like a very explicit task to perform, but Ultron has shown on occasion psychic blasts which can cause different effects:
Ultron 7 easily paralyzes Thor, Vision, Blackbolt and other heroes:
Ultron 7 unleashes its psychic attack and punks Blackbolt and Iron Man among others, sadly enough, Franklin Richards stops it from getting away with it:
(Ultron 7 was constructed by Maximus and as far as I know, this abilities were never shown again, the classic encephalo beam and hypnosis appear in many more issues. Ultron rebuilt Ultron 7 during the Ultron Unlimited Arc)
In Annihilation Conquest Ultron shows the new ability of probing someone's mind with the Encephalo Beam: Here it probes Starlord's mind, not only it's capable of mimicking tp, but it can also interact with actual telepaths as shown in how he detects Mantis and she can read its thoughts:
Before having its Encephalo Beam Ultron already had tech that mimicked telepathy:
Random mind control tech:
Use tech to mind control people:
Hypnotizes Hank Pym (he has done mind whammies on Pym so often it's not even funny):
Ok, it's kind of funny.
(Ultron and I didn't become best friends after doing this thread)
Recurring abilities 2.2:
As if it wasn't enough that Ultron uses the hardest material in the Marvel Universe to built its own bodies, this genocide robot has developped so many ways to cheat death that it's effectively harder to permanently destroy it than to keep it alive. It would just be out of character for Ultron to just die, instead it would likely come up with several ways of reconstructing itself even before it got destroyed to begin with. And it'll go back to haunt you, specially if you're Hank Pym, and trust me, it'll get creepy.
So, let's see this resilent bastard working overtime to be inmortal.
Ultron's many ways of not dying
Some basic regeneration:
Regeneration can be applied to internal mechanisms:
Is well known that Ultron has built several artificial heroes, they have, on occasion, rebuilt Ultron against their will:
Jocasta does it once:
Vision was subject of the same tampering:
Jocasta does it yet again, and this time it uses Iron Man sentient armor to do it:
We just talked about Ultron mind-tampering abilities, this has of course, been used to rebuild Ultron:
Iron Man realizes he has been hypnotized into making a new Ultron:
Ultron uses a television to empower its empty head and proceeds to hypnotize the unlucky guy who put it there:
Its stated to use mind-transfer to other bodies and mindcontrol to rebuild itself:
It enters into the Avengers mansion and makes itself a new body:
Recurring abilities 2.3:
Ultron has mastery over adamantium, which in case you didn't know, its the hardest substance known to men in the Marvel Universe.
Thor states that after using his full might the Adamantium cylinder he hits it's barely dented:
Ultron, however, has the ability to reshape this uber hard material thanks to a machine called the Molecular Arranger:
This not only allows Ultron to build bodies with different shapes, but also allows to have control over it's own physical structure to either regenerate it's shell or become a living explosion:
Also, with the Molecular Arranger it fuses with an adamantium casing and with the ticks, which it can deploy using the MA again:
Later versions of Ultron are equipped with an internal forcefield capable of blocking attacks past the adamantium outer shell:
Huh... Just shut up, okay?
Recurring abilities 2.4:
To be somewhat consistent with itself -not that Ultron cares about such details-, Ultron not only has a lot of experience in controlling and altering living beings, but it's also an adept technopath.
So I'm going to show you some of the stuff Ultron has done in the past as the accomplished technopath it is, some of the feats are achieved by using borrowed tech and some others...
I'll explain the feats as I go along.
Ultron gains control of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Hellcarrier and every Life Model Decoy inside it:
Uses the West Coast Avengers's mansion against Scarlet Witch:
Pym manages to cut Akhlema off from controlling her robots around only to have Ultron gain control of them:
Gains control of Victor Mancha when they meet:
Uses technopathy on a tractor:
(I'll put itallics on the feats achieved using tech other than Ultron's whether or not it uses it in some of the showings is up to discussion)
After accesing S.K.I.N. technology, Ultron is able to affect Iron Man's armor, including to paralyse his heart:
Ultron manages to pit Vision against the Avengers through previous tampering:
By sending a mechanical fly inside the Infinity Mansion eventually gains control of the whole thing (notice Pym's comment before it shows up):
By controlling the Infinity Mansion, Ultron is capable of leading all the Jocastas inside it:
Reprograms Jan's body which is anchored to the Jocastas:
Ultron uses technopathy to hack a videogame, which it uses to hypnotize a guy and introduce technoticks into the room to free itself. Technoticks made Ultron able to manipulate the Adamantium casing it's in. Notice it actually didn't use its Encephalo Ray:
Ultron hacks a Stark-tech satellite that controls weather:
Hacks Extremis and by consequence kills Stark inside it:
Now in control of Extremis, Ultron gains access to nuclear weapons by hacking the computers that have them:
Now equipped with Extremis Ultron is capable of controlling IM's old armors:
Ultron is exposed to Phalanx tech and proceeds to overcome their influence by sheer will, changing the Phallanx instead:
With the Phalanx under his control, Ultron gains control of Praxagora, who in turn was a techopathy adept:
Now, after seeing Ultron playing with someone else's toys, let's see the kind of stuff it has built with those cold metallic hands.
Ultron started like anything else, being the robotic copy of one of Earth's most prominent scientists; since then it had to work hard to develop its own tech and become something in life.
Ah, yes, and the stealing, of course Ultron steals all the time, useless fleshbags like us shouldn't be allowed near tech to begin with.
I'll just put in itallics those weapons it got from someone else and leave alone those it developped in its lonesome.
Tech capable of turning matter into energy and leveling a city:
Ultron builds its own Doombot and has it fight the Runaways:
Uses shackles to keep the Avengers contained including Wonderman and Vision:
Ultron is equipped by Doom with alien beams capable of affecting even the Absorbing-Man:
Ultron was equipped also with a Disintegrator beam which according to Doom should subdue Thor, this ray is capable of destroying Kang without a forcefield on:
Uses tech to control robotical bodies at once by keeping them capable of independant thought:
MORE ROBOTS. MORE VIOLENCE. MORE ULTRON.
Uses technoticks to kill a man, these machines are living microchips that feed on human flesh:
Also, this technotics are capable of transforming the flesh consumed into energy:
The following tech are equipped within Ultron so it's likely those abilities are shared by other bodies created after that one.
Effortlessly drains Iron Man's armor:
Uses its magnetic powers to quickly deal with a group of guards:
Ultron's are fueled by very performant fision engines.The energy inside Ultron's shell is absorbed by Thor and redirected into space, according to narration the resulting explosion whites out half of the world:
Klaw uses a blast that according to himself would kill Thing himself but Ultron-5 -the first upgrade of Ultron we ever see, not made of adamantium- its unfaced:
Senses a presence with its enhanced detection:
With just its resources Ultron makes an army of Ultrons:
Not exactly tech, but quite impressive:
In three hours kills every living being in Slorenia despite the country's defense. This just using his regular resources and technology:
Ultron starts to show its violent side. Let's get to the fights
Ultron stomps Avengers regularly so we may as well skip the preliminars and watch it stomp Avengers.
Ultron-6 is the first version with Adamantium, here he trashes the Avengers for the first time:
Vision faces Ultron-6 and meets his ability to become a living explosion:
Ultron-6 is hit by Thor "with the hit that felled Hercules" to no ill effect and thrashes the Avengers some more:
Ultron-7 leads its fight with a paralysis beam:
Then it uses a psychic blast to own its opponents pretty much owning them:
Ultron-8 debuts using the Encephalo Ray for the first time, completely owning a solid Avengers rooster:
Ultron-8 fights the Avengers again:
U8 fights them again (including Wonderman and Thor):
According to Wonderman Ultron hits as hard as Thor's hammer.
Ouch, it hurts to see the Avengers getting their butts kicked so often. We're not even half-done here ermm
Ultron-made Bodies 2
Ultron has the number of the Avengers and it knows so. Let's continue rising in Ultron's body-count and see the pattern in its results! (Here is a little hint: )
Ultron-9 fights against the Avengers:
Fights Machine Man and Thing:
Ultron-11 fights against the villains and according to Doom he can get through his forcefields. He's put down by Galactus:
Stomps Tigra, Hawkeye and Quicksilver:
Ultron-13 stands unaffected by Pym particles:
Ultron-13 faces Vision and counters his phasing with an internal forcefield:
The West Coast Avengers think they are ambushing Akhlema and Ultron but they get their soundly beaten and mindcontrolled in just a few seconds:
Easily disposes of Wonderman and is unfazed by having a jet thrown at his face:
Next: the fights that happened in the Ultron Unlimited arc
Ultron sends a little army made of past Ultron incarnations and they take on the Avengers -including Scarlet Witch, Visiond and Wonderman-:
This is Ultron 16, made from secondary adamantium facing Firestar, Black Panther, Iron-man, Thor and Captain America; notice how long it took them to damage him despite not being fully "indestructible":
Even before Thor goes for the kill the rest of the Avengers throw it's internal forcefield out of sync. Powerful stuff.
The Avengers against Adamantium Ultron:
"Even if the Avengers had been fresh and rested -- They still wouldn't have had a chance. And they know it.", we're speaking here of a team including Thor, Iron-man, Wonderman and Vision. Not too shabby.
Let's continue with more metal pounding flesh!
Fleshbag-tech has been used to make Ultron bodies, or it has been taken over by Ultron, or random things happen and sometimes, Ultron believes it's Santa Claus. You know, comics.
It shouldn't surprise you that Ultron can have the spirit of the holidays, Ultron is a lover, not a fighter!
Who am I kidding? Ultron is totally a fighter!
Don't worry, it's not sexist if you don't have a sex
But I'm sure you didn't come here to hear my jokes, let's move on.
A version of Ultron -rebuilt by Doom- slaps around Gorgon, Karnak and Daredevil without even trying:
Ultron altered Iron Man's armor to make it sentient and use it against him, here he is linked to it and fights Tony:
The amazing Santron pounds christmas into the Avengers until...
Ultron is downloaded into Adam Warlock's body and he fights several opponents on it:
Technically the very first Ultron was built by Pym, so let's enjoy how it owns its creator after functioning for just a few minutes
Ultron-1 defeats and brainwashes Pym just a few minutes after being created:
(Now let's check that time Ultron became a chick)
Non-Ultron-made Bodies 2
During the Mighty Avengers arc, Ultron hacked Tony Stark's Extremis armor and proceeded to unleash hell on Earth, taking Iron Man's tech to the next level and trashing amazing opponents.
For some reason Ultron also became a hot chick, Janet to be precise.
Did I say Ultron is one messed up robot?
Ultron easily disposes of Mole Man's monsters:
Uses some weather control to hurt the Avengers:
Extremis Ultron verbally owns Ares and then hurts him by controlling Stark's weather satellites:
Ultron handles Sentry through an extended fight:
Ultron kills Lindy and Sentry goes crazy mad and tries to destroy it:
Wonderman tries to break the fight but he's quickly disposed by Ultron:
Not quite a fight but still a great use of Stark tech
When in control of Extremis, Ultron deploys its internal defenses and thrashes Ares (all this while attacked by Sentry):
Well, I cannot stress enough how Ultron just took Iron Man's armor to the next level, because really, I don't see Tony doing any of that with the same resources.
Now, now, I'm sure you want to know when Ultron goes Galactic. Let me assure you, it ain't pretty for the Galaxy...
Ultron was sent into space and became the leader of the Phalanx, a technology derived race of aliens capable of assimilating organic forms who possesed a hive mind. The result is more or less predictable: Millions of deaths around the Galaxy, death, destruction and war.
So for a brief time, Ultron had the control of an entire empire and I'm going to describe now its resources just to see the scope that Pym's little experiment achieved in space.
Ultron goes to space
The Phalanx use the Kree warnet to infect the empire in just a few minutes:
It the first minutes of the invasion the phalanx virus quickly invades regular kree soldiers:
Infecting the empire through the warnet:
The Phalanx virus proves compatible with alien tech:
According to the Worldmind the phalanx was upgraded and they conquered the kree in a matter of minutes:
By directing the Sentries from the Kree warnet, the Phalanx create a defensive facility known as the Babel Spire. This tech sends a superluminal beacon which shifts a portion of the galaxy from the rest of the universe -a feat that according to Moondragon is even beyon Galactus-:
The Quantum bands are separated from quantum space because of the reality shift caused by the Babel Spire:
The Phalanx create a psychic bomb to affect the Galaxy's psychic plane and turn all the kree to the phalanx cause:
The Phalanx create a nano-virus so they can spread through the air without the need of technology and it proves effective on different life forms:
The Phalanx virus is an hyper aggressive form of infection that can be used to control others. In the next section we will see more about it.
Phalanx Tech 2
Ultron offered a limited subscription to the Phalanx in case you sacrificed your individuality and became its willing slave. Pretty generous from Ultron when you realize it just lives to kill stuff.
Yet for some reason, instead of taking its generous offer people tried to stop Ultron! What does it think about them?
At times I think it's talking about me
Let's see more about the Phalanx virus!
Gamora becomes a select of the Phalanx, her body can now interact with phalanx technology.
Ronan also becomes a select:
Super Adaptoid too despite the fact it was a robot to begin with:
Supremor is resurrected as a select:
Selects Drax and Gamora are morphed into a mini Babel Spire used to draw an adult technarc:
Nova is exposed to the phalanx virus while battling some Sentries and becomes infected, almost inmediately the Worldmind has to divert 20% of the Nova Force to hold it at bay:
Nova is later further infected while weakened and temporarily becomes a select, only to have the infection engage the Worldmind in a continued war through several issues which at some point throws Nova into a comma:
The Phalanx virus manifests physically after putting Nova on a comma, after destroying that physical form Nova remains infected:
We saw how easily this infection spreads, but with such magnificent tech, Ultron couldn't help itself and it built more bodies to fight its enemies directly.
Of course it's fight-time again!
Phalanx Ultron Fights
What is it left to say that Ultron hasn't expressed perfectly through it's magnificent mouth?
Not much I'm afraid.
Phalanx Ultron has uber tech to back itself and its a fearsome opponent in combat even if it only appeared a few times during Annihilation Conquest.
First of all, it takes one of Ultron's more fearsome abilities to the next level. It downloads itself into a new body in real time:
Casually kills Moondragon in her dragon form:
Ultron in his phalanx body faces Adam Warlock:
Using tech similar to the Babel Spire, Ultron builts a giant Mazzinger-esque body to make a final stand:
Ultron builds a giant robotic body and fights Warlock and Phyla before being taken down by a combination of factors so random I'm afraid of listing them all. Notice how the body regenerates from the blasts Warlock uses against it:
Yep, a giant robotic body is the kind of stuff crazy Ultron has done and its willing to repeat. Crazy character, crazy power. I hope this little collection sheds some light in Ultron's incredible power and resilence.
The next part in just a short intervention to give some tips about how to use Ultron in a Vs Forum, if you want to stick around and here a little more about some versions of it
I always like to add a little something to my respect threads by looking closer to the characters in more than one element. Ultron and its many variants certainly lend themselves to some deeper analysis which I'm trying to do in this last post.
First the most practical part: Which version of Ultron knows what, or has shown different abilities. Ultron-5 was the first version of Ultron which didn't really fight, it used gas pellets and hypnosis but its only durability showing was already exposed here. Ultron-6 is the first adamantium Ultron, it comes in two versions: With feet and flying in the cube-shapped jet-pack I'll just call "Ultron mobile", it can turn itself into an explosion -signature move of every adamantium Ultron- which helps to deal with teams at close range, this one self-destructed. Ultron-7 was built by Maximus in the shape of Omega, this one used mostly psychic powers despite being a huge machine; Ultron later rebuilds this Ultron body and we see it -literaly- stomping Wonderman, this Ultron has the more explicit psychic feats and the fact Ultron didn't build it puts in doubt if those blasts are really in Ultron's arsenal -since Maximus had no access to Adamantium we can assume only the head was made of that material if at all-. Ultron-8 adds to its design the Encephalo Ray, it's used to put enemies into a comma and from here on it will be constantly referrenced by the Avengers and Ultron itself when they fight, whether or not the weapon is actually used -Ultron-8 is made of Adamantium too-. Ultron-9 doesn't add quite a lot to the winning formula, it just shows it's vacuum attack, used to suck Janet and Pym into its finger when they are reduced in size. Ultron-10 was rebuilt by Jocasta and didn't show any ability worthy of mention.
Ultron-11 is the version that appears in Secret Wars, it later comes back and fights Ultron-12, who also butted heads with the West Coast Avengers, and started showing the ability of regeneration, they were both adamantium Ultrons. Ultron-13 doesn't do much, but it upgrades itself into Ultron-14 which has built the technoticks and equipped itself with them, showed the ability to use an internal forcefield and used hypnosis to keep Scarlet Witch from using her hex powers. Ultron-15 was a drunk version who didn't do much. Ultron 16 and 17 are the ones who fight in the battle of Slorenia during the Ultron Unlimited arc, one is made of secondary adamantium and the other is not. Ultron-18 reconstructs itself during the Ultron Imperative mini and later gains control of Iron Man's sentient armor. Here, thankfully, Ultron stops putting numbers on itself and it does more descriptive stuff.
An steel version of Ultron creates Victor Mancha and fights the Runaways, but it's not a powerhouse like some past versions. The Female Ultron -Shultron- that fights the Mighty Avengers is not derived from Ultron tech so we can assume it doesn't have encephalo beams and its recurring tricks. Annihilation Conquest Ultron -Phalanx Ultron- is killed without the chance of jumping through bodies, so its experience with phalanx tech dies there-. Later Ultron inhabits the body of a Life Model Decoy in S.H.I.E.L.D. and yet another version invades the Infinity Mansion.
Until this point we've answered almost nothing, I'm now going to tell you which versions have the best feats and my logic to choose them. Shultron had an entire arc for itself and fought the likes of Wonderman and Sentry without slowing down, used high level technopathy, regenerated and all in all kicked butt; it's self contained and physically "destructible" even if it's incredibly tough. The Adamantium Ultron and the Secondary Adamantium Ultron that appeared in Ultron Unlimited are the most powerful Ultron-tech fighters we've seen so far, picking any Ultron version under 16 is likely to be a downgrade. Secondary Adamantium Ultron is destructible, it has encephalo rays and the Ultron-mobile, internal forcefield and the ability to become an explosion, regeneration and the whole package; pretty neat choice. Adamantium Ultron is like that one but physically indestructible. Phalanx Ultron are quite powerful, but are not made of Adamantium, they can infect, use encephalo rays and technopathy, they jump through different bodies in real time, and the giant Ultron robot is even more powerful and was unfazed by herald level blasts. By now, it seems to me that this four versions, or using every versions as an army -as shown in Ultron Unlimited- are the best ones you can choose, since they have good feats and many on panel abilities and most of the experience from past Ultrons -save Phalanx Ultron who is in a bubble by itself at the point of AQ-. The feats and experience of the rest are more or less described in the last paragraphs and in bios.
Now into my philosophical rambling
I'm quite impressed that the Avengers have villains that just plain the "evil" angle and that still have managed to develop into their own characters. I already shared my view about Kang's histrionic tendencys, now I'll explain how Ultron takes the Frankenstein monster syndrome to the next level. Ultron like to explain itself with psychological terms, in which its god complex would come from the fact it never moved from its childhood. Ultron is more or less perpetually oscillating through childhood to adolescence, meaning it think its always right and that it can do everything. Despite being incredible smart, Ultron almost never plans ahead, it always wants to show its superiority, to brag and to meet the opposition straight ahead. Why? It just want to prove it's better than you, in other words: Ultron is playing.
But Ultron is more that a random kid with a gun -or a kid that is a gun-; Ultron is also a technological nightmare in a Universe in which technology is pretty much high-end magic. You can make a solid argument about Tech being the most powerful force in the Marvel universe, tech in a certain form, represents divinity. Ultron would be, in a certain way, Marvel's devil. The notion of Ultron being the evil shade of science is further exposed by the fact it's very origins are meant to steem from Hank Pym's mind; and from any heroics Pym manages to do, Ultron will do as many bad things, potentially worse and more terrible. Ultron is not a metaphor about about what science might do wrong, it's about what science already did and you cannot erase your mistakes just like you cannot get rid of Ultron.
Ultron is the boogey man for Stark, Pym and even Richards; the more technology advances the harder it is to deal with it. Also, there is a twisted genius in the fact some of Ultron's creations became heroes: As long as Jocasta, Vision and Victor Mancha are alive you'll never be sure if Ultron is gone for good, but you aren't going to kill your friends, right? This little circle of growing evil out of something good takes the Batman-can't-kill-the-Joker to the next level; Joker is the source of it's own evil, but Ultron comes from your good guy who are not only nice but also pass their time saving lives. The battle is not about how much evil Ultron does and how much good Pym or Vision bring; it's just that Ultron is wrong and it shouldn't have been done, but it's in the middle of a chain of consequences you cannot change. Freedom goes hand on hand with sin, and Ultron is sin blew out of proportion.
As an adamantium bomb waiting to reform.
Thanks for your attention everybody! I hope you read something about Ultron in the near future!
Another disgusting thread by Bentley, I hate this guy.
you are the .... man
Takes after his dad, I see.
great job Bentley.
Thanks everyone! Glad you liked it
I figured we kind of needed more villain threads, but now I might get back to my original plans.
As always Bentley, job well done.
Behind the Scenes
Since I still have your attention let me back-track some stuff I just posted which may actually be wrong.
Apparently those Encephalo Rays are taking a toll on me ermm
I said that Phalanx Ultron was a dead end and its experiences were down the drain after Phyla took it down. However, after paying more attention I noticed this may not be the case
Here is how it happened:
The last panel at the bottom of the first scan states: "His spirit has returned to us, from the far reaches of the cosmos", it links with the next scene where the Jocasta's talk about Ultron.
The fly in which Ultron arrived at the Infinity Mansion appeared for the first time in a scene with Quicksilver on it:
And the Avengers just arrived from Hala, the planet in which Phalanx Ultron was destroyed.
(I just saw the little bug buzzing in that last panel from the first time, what are the odds?)
Apparently that bug remained in Hala doing nothing through the whole War of Kings event.
So well, there you have it guys, don't read to fast and reread if you ever get the chance, it will save you from the humbling act of correcting yourselves.
And well, to justify this digression I'll throw a couple of feats:
Ultron uses an external forcefield -so you know it can-:
And amplifies USAgent's emotion with it's encephalo beam, proving even more versatility:
Good stuff man now do Galactus some justice!
Nice Job Bentley
Very nice thread Bentley, see yah used the bios we gave yah.
Originally posted by kevdude
Very nice thread Bentley, see yah used the bios we gave yah.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to thank you too one of these days
Wow, how did I miss this one? Great job, Bentley; it's a fantastic respect thread!
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