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1) Spiderman vs Gorgon

2) Spidey & Scarlet Spider(Ben) vs Gorgon

3) Kaine vs Gorgon

4) all three vs Gorgon

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/the-gorgon-vs-spider-man/553992/

All of them gets stomped by gorgon... he is.much faster an expert fighter with blades and I'm pretty sure he is physically stronger than them with a hulk like healing factor. I would put gorgon reflexes pretty much faster than the speed of sound.

Gorgon is a whole nuther beast man, his Blunt force trauma durability alone puts him about equal to spidermans own, THEN add battlefield regen, speed faster than wolverine (which in its own right puts him at LEAST in the negligable difference catagory with pete) Superior skill to the point of and telepathy:/..standard gear being a sword, team spidey is boned.

Wait... back up a second. More of this KMC stuff. Gorgon is on a comparitive level of speed. His speed is utilized differently though. Is that 4 Spider-Men? They all have basic knowledge, webbing, and high end berserk strength, and carver where in the *hell* did you get Gorgon being stronger? If he is I'd like to see it, maybe I'm wrong.

I believe they can win in a group at their best. 1 vs the guy isn't too likely him being Spider-Man and all and the way he does things in a normal situation.

I don't see any "no stone stare" rule...

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I don't see any "no stone stare" rule... I'm assuming he can. Basic knowledge means they know of this. He might catch one here and then but not all of them every time. Not to mention Parker fights quite well without sight. 4 guys (from what I see) should do fine altogether.

That's not it, his stare is hax, he doesn't need to look into your eyes to turn you into stone, not long ago he he was covering a whole floor with it turning everyone (in this case some hookers or something) into stone. That's why he wears 90% of the time his eyebandana otherwise it would be impossible to use him for storylines. Unless you are immune to it you should loose 10/10 against him. It's completely unfair imo.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's not it, his stare is hax, he doesn't need to look into your eyes to turn you into stone, not long ago he he was covering a whole floor with it turning everyone (in this case some hookers or something) into stone. That's why he wears 90% of the time his eyebandana otherwise it would be impossible to use him for storylines. Unless you are immune to it you should loose 10/10 against him. It's completely unfair imo. Wait, when was this? If that's the case then he wins, but I don't remember it being like that...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm assuming he can. Basic knowledge means they know of this. He might catch one here and then but not all of them every time. Not to mention Parker fights quite well without sight. 4 guys (from what I see) should do fine altogether.
He does not need to catch them all, them having to closes there eyes alone would be hindrances enough.

Spiderman is the only one that shown the ability to fight blind out of the spidermen. Even then when he done so, it was moved for defensive reason, he utilized little offenses while fighting blind. Lets assume that ben can as well, though he never shown the ability to, I can believe he be able to in a similar fashion. However there no reason to assume kaine could fight effectively at all blind.

So two hinder spiderman against gorgon, who has a god sword, uber skills, at least comparable speed (though I would say he faster of the group) and abiliy to read there minds and mind rape them. Gorgon should win this the majority of the time pretty easily. Kaine would go down rather fast.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wait, when was this? If that's the case then he wins, but I don't remember it being like that...
secret warriors.

then in the leastest issue they implied it worked similar to the god of fear. From what I gather it more an auror rather then to do with eye contact.

Wait so let's get one thing clear. He can stone "stare" out entire rooms just by being there? If so this debate is pointless.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He does not need to catch them all, them having to closes there eyes alone would be hindrances enough.

Spiderman is the only one that shown the ability to fight blind out of the spidermen. Even then when he done so, it was moved for defensive reason, he utilized little offenses while fighting blind. Lets assume that ben can as well, though he never shown the ability to, I can believe he be able to in a similar fashion. However there no reason to assume kaine could fight effectively at all blind.

So two hinder spiderman against gorgon, who has a god sword, uber skills, at least comparable speed (though I would say he faster of the group) and abiliy to read there minds and mind rape them. Gorgon should win this the majority of the time pretty easily. Kaine would go down rather fast. I wouldnt go as far as to say he's faster, but overall agree. They have no defence against some of Gorgon's powers.
But would like to point out that pre-OMD Spider-man has fought blind several times and very effectively. Its just after brand new day he had to learn this trick again for God knows what reason. Think the writers just forgot.

Everybody is faster than Spider-Man lol.

On a serious note though if his stare acts like described this is a moot thread.

Originally posted by carver9
All of them gets stomped by gorgon... he is.much faster an expert fighter with blades and I'm pretty sure he is physically stronger than them with a hulk like healing factor. I would put gorgon reflexes pretty much faster than the speed of sound.

What are his strength feats?

Edit: And his reflexes faster than sound? Any feats? IIRC Spiderman dodged a bullet after it was fired from behind him. That's crazy reflexes right there.

Originally posted by The Pict
What are his strength feats?

Edit: And his reflexes faster than sound? Any feats? IIRC Spiderman dodged a bullet after it was fired from behind him. That's crazy reflexes right there.

*sigh*


The level at which Gorgon processes an entire telepathic conversation...

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=conversation.jpg
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=conversation2.jpg

Maybe I'm completely retarded but wouldn't that have more to do with his tp ability than physical reflex (although the feat that followed was nice)?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Maybe I'm completely retarded but wouldn't that have more to do with his tp ability than physical reflex (although the feat that followed was nice)?

I suppose *shrug*.

I just think the feat is indicative of his ability to process complete thoughts at superhuman speeds to such a degree that allows discussion for bullet timing.... plus like you said... then there's the next part.

Well if his stone state clears out entire areas with his protection off he stomps with no effort. I was unaware of it working like that though.

Honestly.. so was I... I haven't followed his recent appearances though.

It makes me wonder how it works and what the limits to it are.

Pretty sure it was a one-time uber showing for the power. Normally people avoided it by closing their eyes.

Well if it works that way (which makes me wonder how it goes through masks if he's blindfolded) I'd say the team can win if they're together.

Originally posted by The Pict
What are his strength feats?

Edit: And his reflexes faster than sound? Any feats? IIRC Spiderman dodged a bullet after it was fired from behind him. That's crazy reflexes right there.

I have proven this before but let me do it again.

He is slicing from different angles before these ninja's even move a musle.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2563/origin3.jpg

Look how far Gorgon is away from the fight (that Wolverine is having).

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3919/gorgonpreparingtostrike.jpg

Wolverine has one of those guys pinned to a statue, and states "wait, no one is that fast". So he cover that entire field almost instantly, stabbing Wolverine in the back.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9845/sneakattack1.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4935/sneakattack2.jpg

Here he blitz the hell out of Elektra.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3789/gorgonvselektra7.jpg

Here he gets stabbed by both Elektra and Wolverine but he still manage (while injured) to blitz the HELL out of them before the even got the chance to react. Wolverine even comments on how fast the Gorgon was and Elektra and Wolverine alone has matched Spiderman... hell, Wolverine has Spidey questioning his speed.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9397/gorgonvswolverineelektr.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9397/gorgonvswolverineelektr.jpg

Ok, these are shield agents with SHIELD weapons. Gorgon easily deflect bullets with a SWORD... not one bullet get past him and he was being shot at by multiple shooters.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2107/telepathy2.jpg

And guess what gorgon cruel a** does, he blitz them before they even got the chance to even move a musle.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3632/gorgonvsshield1.jpg

Sling shot has feats of moving 3000 to 4000 mps and her speed was still increasing while doing this. Well, she tried to blitz Gorgon and look what happened and read what everyone say about Gorgons speed (the same thing logan and Elektra said).

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2209/gorgonvssecretwarriors2.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5881/gorgonvssecretwarriors3.jpg

Thats all I have for right now but that should be enough.