Originally posted by CortSether
Actually, he does. Nowhere is it said Eternity needed help, ever. It's not even said they actually battled. But we do know that Dormammu put Zom in the Chains of Living Bondage without Eternity, and then Eternity imprisoned him. It had nothing to do with how powerful Zom was or that Eternity couldn't defeat him. Why did he decide to imprison Zom instead of destroy him? Who knows, possibly for the same reason the Living Tribunal decided to banish Zom instead of just destroy him right there on the spot like we all know he could.
Or are you now going to start saying that he's able to rival the Living Tribunal?
Zom's hands were shackled by Dormammu with the Chains of Living Bondage, no one knows how.
The fact that Dormammu was able to shackle Zom at all speaks volumes that he's not near Shuma-Gorath in power.
The LT shows up and annihilates Zom, but Zom lives in diminished form and can reach full power should he ever gain enough mystic energy.
And this is special in some way? Shuma-Gorath was apparently destroyed and reassembled just fine. It's also stated in the Thanos Imperative #6 that Shuma-Gorath along with the rest of the Many-Angled Ones cannot die.
Gorath's list of enemies : Dr. Strange, Ancient One, nameless caveman shaman, forgotten Stone Age God Crom
You're forgetting: The Vishanti and Sise-Neg, the former who failed to defeat Shuma-Gorath and the latter who outright stated he didn't want to attempt to destroy it (wasn't even sure if he could), and this is when he was almost at the completion of his journey in absorbing everything in Marvel.
Again you're bringing up "nameless Shaman"? Wow. You're just choosing to ignore things. He used the 'Iron Bound Books of Shuma-Gorath' to banish Shuma. It was Shuma's own personal plot-device, which AGAIN I'll tell you is not a low showing if you're defeated by your own plot device. Or shall we say that Mad Jim Jaspers is a weakling because his own plot-device, The Fury, was able to defeat him? Or now Superman is a weak pos because of his Kryptonite weakness? Or Spectre because of the Spear of Destiny? And in the case of Crom, he's never even battled Shuma, just used the plot-device weapon to banish him.
{B]I'll repeat this till it sinks in so you understand Cort :
That's fine, but you just look like an ass because you've clearly only skimmed through wiki pages and not even read any of Shuma's appearances.
Strange NEVER beat Zom. Strange with Ancient One's power never beat Zom.
The fact that Zom couldn't even kill a regular Doctor Strange even before the Ancient One imbued him with his power shows he's nowhere near Eternity's level.
Strange beat Gorath and his "all powerful" lieutenant in their own realms where they were supposedly omnipotent.
As already said, it's only you who cannot smell the plot device with Arioch. In his realm Arioch was as powerful as he could conceive, Strange didn't disagree which is why he forced the merging. But when before or after has Strange ever forced a merging with those significantly more powerful than him, or significantly weaker? Never. That's why it's PIS, because Strange has never displayed that ability before or after that point. And it wasn't a normal Doctor Strange that defeated Shuma-Gorath. It was Strange/Arioch who had turned into Shuma-Gorath in the realm. It was basically Shuma-Gorath defeating itself. Not "Strange". Keep lying, it's fun telling you you're wrong every time.
Strange beat Gorath on Earth at Stonehenge
You mean, a severly weakened and hungry Shuma who was collapsing over itself almost killed Doctor Strange. And that was just in Strange leading the battle to Stonehenge to use the historical site's powers to open a dimensional warp. That encounter was not even comparable. Or should I say the time Doctor Strange downed a starving Galactus with the Images of Ikkon equates to Galactus being a weakling in all instances?
Crom, a stone age God, beat Gorath OR (depending on source) unnamed neanderthal shaman beat Gorath. Pick whichever is least embarrassing for your boy.
You've just embarrassed yourself by showing that all you know from Shuma is the wiki page you browsed through. Crom never battled Shuma, neither did the Shaman. They used Shuma's plot-device weapon.
And speaking of hyperbole, you got scans of Gorath destroying a planet, let alone a galaxy?
It's already shown that when Strange tries to leave the dimension a huge explosion happens and Kaluu realizes what would happen should Strange leave with Shuma's energy still inside him, which is the destruction of galaxies.
Secondly, yea, I saw Shuma-Gorath non-chalantly attack the entire earth instantaneously while taunting Doctor Strange.
Add to the fact that Strange even acknowledged that he'd never felt such power when Shuma showed up as a manifestation within the Ancient One's mind. It's spelled all over the plot that Shuma-Gorath is Doctor Strange's most powerful enemy at the time. What would the point be in Shuma being weaker? Oh, here comes this big new villain we've been waiting issues to see, but oh it turns out he's actually weaker than what Strange has fought before! Oh yea, sure makes for an exciting story :/ Jeeeez!
Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is how it's done!
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