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Looks like one of the best comic book series' ever made will cross over into the animated genre...




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Despite being doubtful that 75 minutes is enough time to tell such an epic tale, I am still looking forward to this film. A LOT. happywank

Originally posted by Galan007
Didn't see a thread on this topic yet.

Looks like one of the best comic book series' ever made will cross over into the animated genre...




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zPv6DiA_eM



Despite being doubtful that 75 minutes is enough time to tell such an epic tale, I am still looking forward to this film. A LOT. happywank I take it that you don't approve.

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Originally posted by Galan007
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I'll see you in the CB vs or Batman forum then. sneer

We shall see... nestvura

Originally posted by Galan007
We shall see... nestvura That smiley RULES!

The fact that McDuffie wrote this is a HUGE red flag for me, but the trailer isn't quite the horror story i'd expected it to be.

I'll give it a fair shot, but my expectations aren't particulalry high.

Having McDuffie adapt a Morrison story is like having an actual nun in a porno: Out of their depth.

Thought about that too... But as long as he somewhat followed the comics, it should be okay.

McDuffie's done very good work in the animated DC Universe - I don't think it will be a problem.

It looks to me that the animation's going to just directly adapt the main plot, which is fine, but the comic was rich in subtext, it had an abstract and old fashioned, trippy 1950's tone and engaged with great themes pretaining to the nature of existence and life vs death.

It looks to me, and I'm prejudging, that the animation is reduced to "Lex Luthor gets superpowers as Superman slowly dies."

Originally posted by willRules
It looks to me that the animation's going to just directly adapt the main plot, which is fine, but the comic was rich in subtext, it had an abstract and old fashioned, trippy 1950's tone and engaged with great themes pretaining to the nature of existence and life vs death.

It looks to me, and I'm prejudging, that the animation is reduced to "Lex Luthor gets superpowers as Superman slowly dies." Likely so. You have to remember that this film is only going to be just over an hour long -- there simply isn't enough time to expand on the sub-plots you mentioned. If I had to guess, I'd say the movie will be based primarily on issues 1, 2, 5, 10, 11, 12 of the comic series.

However, that should still be more than enough of a baseline for McDuffie to successfully deliver the fundamentals behind what made the comic series so good -- ie. Superman knows he's going to die, but instead of sulking about it like so many would, he spends his remaining days helping mankind more than he ever had.... Before ultimately sacrificing himself to save the world.

Yeah. I hope I'm wrong, but either way it'll be fun

Hope its better than the last one.

Originally posted by roughrider
McDuffie's done very good work in the animated DC Universe - I don't think it will be a problem.

he's also had some failures.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he's also had some failures.

Like what?

Dwayne has yet to phuck up anything DC animated related that I've seen.

He wrote the Crisis On Two Earths movie, and in JLU he was one of the head writers, and IIRC was the guy that made Superman an absolute dick during the last season. The fights were great, i know, but i doubt that was him.

I liked 'COTE'.

Originally posted by Galan007
I liked 'COTE'.

bar the pandering to wonder woman and making superman look like a punching bag, i did too.

for example, i love the scene with the reserves. i even uploaded it to youtube.

The climatic battle between Batman and the all new and nihilistic Owlman was fantastic!

Originally posted by willRules
The climatic battle between Batman and the all new and nihilistic Owlman was fantastic!

i liked it too. My point was just that when it comes to Superman, McDuffie is lacking. At least imo.

Just watched this. As I suspected, it seemed like a bit too much was crammed into such a relatively short film -- for instance, the scene where the 2 other Kryptonians arrive on earth and confront Superman (from issue #9 of the comic series) could have easily been cut, and something else added in its place (as it really didn't add anything to the film.) I also thought Solaris was poorly introduced and poorly handled as a whole.

Other then that I thought it was a pretty good flick -- it more or less followed the comics verbatim. But like I mentioned above, an extra 30-45 minutes would have been enough to take it from mediocre to excellent, imo.

It was good but not great.

Not to bad. It's not in the same league as the last, Superman/Shazam return of black atom but it's still enjoyable. Although, i really didn't like Supermans voice this time around for some reason. I just wish all these movies were done with the same anime influence as Black atom and Batman Gotham KNight. Or better yet, a full length Cgi movie would be class.

Eeh! It's more than a few rungs above Superman/Shazam.

Originally posted by Galan007
Just watched this. As I suspected, it seemed like a bit too much was crammed into such a relatively short film -- for instance, the scene where the 2 other Kryptonians arrive on earth and confront Superman (from issue #9 of the comic series) could have easily been cut, and something else added in its place (as it really didn't add anything to the film.) I also thought Solaris was poorly introduced and poorly handled as a whole.

Other then that I thought it was a pretty good flick -- it more or less followed the comics verbatim. But like I mentioned above, an extra 30-45 minutes would have been enough to take it from mediocre to excellent, imo.

20 more minutes couldn't have hurt. I disagree about the two kryptonians, the movie got better after their introduction. The earlier issues didn't transition well (by this I mean it was less seamless before their introduction). After Superman gets back from installing Kandor the movie was more seamless imo.

I do agree that Solaris was badly introduced, some artistic liberties should have been taken, perhaps giving him a bit of back story. It had a great ending though.

Yeah, its def better than Superman/Shazam.

Indeed it was. Besides just being shorter, Superman/Shazam's storyline isn't nearly as good. BA is better as an anti-hero, not nearly as convincing as a bad guy.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Not to bad. It's not in the same league as the last, Superman/Shazam return of black atom but it's still enjoyable. Although, i really didn't like Supermans voice this time around for some reason. I just wish all these movies were done with the same anime influence as Black atom and Batman Gotham KNight. Or better yet, a full length Cgi movie would be class.

Lol, 'Black Atom'

Solaris just came out of nowhere. They should have build him up.

Originally posted by Allankles
20 more minutes couldn't have hurt. I disagree about the two kryptonians, the movie got better after their introduction. The earlier issues didn't transition well (by this I mean it was less seamless before their introduction). After Superman gets back from installing Kandor the movie was more seamless imo.

I do agree that Solaris was badly introduced, some artistic liberties should have been taken, perhaps giving him a bit of back story. It had a great ending though. I just meant that the Kryptonians themselves were an absolutely pointless addition to the plot, and really didn't add anything to the film. The entire Kryptonians scene could (and should) have been replaced with some backstory on Solaris (or possibly even the Superman Squad) and it would have lended a whole lot more to the film as a whole. Imo.

pretty good.

Originally posted by Placidity
Lol, 'Black Atom'

Originally posted by Galan007
I just meant that the Kryptonians themselves were an absolutely pointless addition to the plot, and really didn't add anything to the film. The entire Kryptonians scene could (and should) have been replaced with some backstory on Solaris (or possibly even the Superman Squad) and it would have lended a whole lot more to the film as a whole. Imo.

yeah, something as significant as Superman discovering new Kryptonians seems like it would demand more focus than a stupid Superman Serum. I mean, This is where the movie lost me. The fact that Superman can simply whip up a miracle drink that can allow anyone to be a god for a day is just stupid and breaks all of the rules. This movie had Three different plots crammed into one movie and none of them were able to link together with each other.

Personally, i would have been content if they would have just stuck to the story line of Lex forcing superman to fly to close to the sun which in return ends up killing him. What i would have changed would have been the dumbass sun eater and that stupid red star. Those characters were super lame. Superman should have ended up sacrificing himself in order to save the sun and that one dude clones him, the end. We have a happy and dark ending. Seems like they were introducing characters just to sell toys at this point and not for story.

Agreed. Now don't get me wrong, the various characters that were randomly introduced during the film are quite interesting in their own right (or at least they were in the comic series), but HOW they were introduced/handled in the film was just... Gratuitous (for lack of a better word.)

I watched this a while back... Have to say I really liked it in parts. Yes they were cramming a lot in, but I honestly feel like it was one of the best examples of getting the "spirit" of Superman in to an animated movie, and was a better representation of him than say, Apocalypse was.

A fine addition to the DC Animated stable imo.

^ Absolutely

Saw it. Liked it.

Meh. I liked the animation, but it was too short. I would recommend the book and skip the animation.

This was was pretty lame. Several scenes/sub-plots seemed thrown in there as an afterthought to fill in time.

Watched it yesterday. Not bad, not bad at all, though I've never read the series, so I can't compare the two.

Some parts I thought were a bit contrived (eg, how Lex got a hold of the superpower serum); some parts silly (eg, Solaris). But I liked Lex's "revelation"; and by the end, I was feeling it -- I liked how Lois put it...

"He's not dead. He's fixing the sun"

...that whole thing. Made me smile.

Of course, questions remain:
- What the hell was that floor made of while Superman was pressing against 200 quintillion tons?
- and how come the 500,000-ton key didn't sink into the snow?

Just saw it last night, really liked it. Haven't read the series either so from what others have said its even better. Ima have to read that soon.

I liked it a lot too. Sure the story felt a bit rushed in parts, and there were a couple of plot points that perhaps didn't quite fit, but overall it made up for all that and had a solid ending which was a little different from what we normally see in Superman animations. And I think it brought back some of the sense of wonder that is missing from a lot of this stuff, especially where Superman is concerned.

Supes really seemed like Superman, with a sort of god-on-earth feel that actually justified Luthor's fear/respect, rather than just another superguy on a world swamped with superguys. He actually used his intelligence a bit. All too often these days Supes is just one more hero. There seem to be so many other characters on earth who can take it to him, either because he has so many easily exploitable weaknesses - kryptonite, magic, red sun energy, energy draining, telepathy, or simply because there just seem to be a lot of uber-powerful characters these days. On a world where earth can defeat New Krypton in a matter of minutes, would Lex really be obsessed with the danger of an alien Superman? Would two renegade Kryptonians really strike horror into the world's population? I think this used the Superman character more as he should be.

Good animation too. Overall, a pretty good effort.