Marvel's Newest Event - Fear Itself

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Rage.Of.Olympus
So this event (Seven Issues) is being written by Fraction and drawn by Immonen.

Fear Itself press conference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nIDfHA1Y4

Breevort and Alonso talk about the event:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=29994

Some info about the event (All the Fear Teaser Posters included at the bottom):
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=29984

Fraction's youtube video about the event:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBhfmylPlJ4

Fraction's blog about the event:
http://wordballoon.blogspot.com/

So Thor and Captain America will play a major role in this event. The main baddy is the Asgardian God of fear. Long ago, Odin cast him out, killed his followers, and destroyed his temples. Red Skrull's bastard of a daughter finds and sets him free I guess in modern marvel. So now the God of Fear wants Odin's throne.

I'm interested in where this goes. Hopefully Asgard isn't destroyed, again and Odin, Thor etc. kick ass.

The God of fear: http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?disp=img&pid=1292962498

Martian_mind
Lame.

Kazenji
So my thread gets locked and this one stays open erm

steverules_2
biscuits

Black bolt z
Marvel can just stop with the events.

Warlord
no!
events are nice and promote creativity.

stick out tongue

Bentley
Wow, this could sound better. Hopefully the Fantastic Four will have a nice run next year ermm

Colossus-Big C
how would he do against phobos?

Omega Vision
Marvel is just spamming Cosmic events now. It's getting sad.

Uninspiring villains are uninspiring.

Trackz
Marvel hasn't had a real event since siege, I'm looking forward to this. Apparently it's going to be a springboard for Dracula, I have no idea what he has to do with the God of Fear though.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Trackz
Marvel hasn't had a real event since siege, I'm looking forward to this. Apparently it's going to be a springboard for Dracula, I have no idea what he has to do with the God of Fear though.
Didn't Marvel swear that Dracula had been killed off for good a few years ago?

Trackz
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Didn't Marvel swear that Dracula had been killed off for good a few years ago? Dunno...apparently not since he was killed then resurrected then killed then resurrected again in the past year. He's in the main teaser for the event, I posted it in the other thread.

willRules
I think I might be the only person on the planet who isn't a fan of Fraction's work. None of this looks appealing. The last couple of years have really steered me away from Marvel and towards DC which, as a Marvel zombie, is painful to admit.

Cartesian Doubt
Originally posted by willRules
I think I might be the only person on the planet who isn't a fan of Fraction's work. None of this looks appealing. The last couple of years have really steered me away from Marvel and towards DC which, as a Marvel zombie, is painful to admit.

IMO - they're both aweful at the moment. Long since gone are the mid naughties, when there were 5 - 6 runs from each company that were great.

When Infinite Crisis strated and Bendis was writing the "new avengers" for the first time, there were a lot of great books around. Now there is virtually nothing that keeps my attention. The only things that I get slightly excited about these days is Morisson on Batman, and Hickman on FF4. The rest is just ... well ... meh. sad

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
IMO - they're both aweful at the moment. Long since gone are the mid naughties, when there were 5 - 6 runs from each company that were great.

When Infinite Crisis strated and Bendis was writing the "new avengers" for the first time, there were a lot of great books around. Now there is virtually nothing that keeps my attention. The only things that I get slightly excited about these days is Morisson on Batman, and Hickman on FF4. The rest is just ... well ... meh. sad

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Did you come back from the alternate universe with Olivia or something because the mid 90s was when comics were collectively so bad (particularly at Marvel) that they almost destroyed to comic industry.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Didn't Marvel swear that Dracula had been killed off for good a few years ago? So was bucky and Jason todd.

My dad looked it up and the only comic character that has been in like more then 20 comics that has stayed dead forever is uncle ben...

-Pr-
Originally posted by willRules
I think I might be the only person on the planet who isn't a fan of Fraction's work. None of this looks appealing. The last couple of years have really steered me away from Marvel and towards DC which, as a Marvel zombie, is painful to admit.

-raises hand- right there with you after what that **** did with x-men. i don't even read their books anymore, as they'd only make me mad.

Kazenji
Same thing with his work on The Punisher good thing Rick Remender came along to work on the 616 Punisher.

willRules
I used to love Bendis but post-Siege, not so much.

I could never see the hype behind Fraction's Iron-man, despite winning an Eisner. I didn't like his X-men stuff (although the Messiah trilogy was fun but a lot of that wasn't Fraction anyway!) Plus he was always off putting in every interview I've seen. He acts like such a douche.

This is the first time for a long time where I simply don't have the enthusiasm for a Marvel event. I hope I'm wrong and it turns out to be awesome. At least Stuart Immomen's art is great.

Bentley
I found this thread looking for some other thread so I'll add my comment here:

This event will feature Red Skull and that makes it cooler by default.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Bentley
Wow, this could sound better. Hopefully the Fantastic Three will have a nice run next year ermm

Fixed.

Bentley
Someone will fit the third spot, it ain't like nobody has died before on that team.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Bentley
Someone will fit the third spot, it ain't like nobody has died before on that team.

based on the various interviews and that the comics after fantastic four 587 are titled fantastic three, I'm not so sure...

edit: however I fully acknowledge that it could be a simple trick.

Bentley
Well, then I guess they'll be just three forever!


I'll miss Reed.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, then I guess they'll be just three forever!


I'll miss Reed.

Not my point Bentley stick out tongue

I'm merely saying that I don't think the lost member will be replaced almost immidiately like it, iirc, have been the case the other times.

I'll miss Sue.

Deadline
Originally posted by Bentley

This event will feature Red Skull and that makes it cooler by default.

You sure?

Bentley
Originally posted by Deadline
You sure?


About what? The cooler part? Of course cool

Deadline
Originally posted by Bentley
About what? The cooler part? Of course cool

Very funny, Red Skull dummie. stick out tongue

Bentley
It's on the march solicits, they say the prologue is something related with one of Johann's past misions.

Deadline
Originally posted by Bentley
It's on the march solicits, they say the prologue is something related with one of Johann's past misions.

This should be pretty good Red Skull is pure evil and up there with Doom.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, then I guess they'll be just three forever!


I'll miss Johnny. Fix'd.

Bentley
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Fix'd.


Not true, I won't miss that brat uhuh

-K-M-
Originally posted by Bentley
I found this thread looking for some other thread so I'll add my comment here:

This event will feature Red Skull and that makes it cooler by default.

FEAR ITSELF #1 (of 7)
Written by MATT FRACTION
Pencils & Cover by STUART IMMONEN
Variant Covers by STEVE McNIVEN & STUART IMMONEN
Fantastic Four Anniversary Variant by PAOLO RIVERA
Blank Variant Cover Also Available
DO YOU FEAR...TOMORROW?

In this time of global anxiety, of economic turmoil and mass hysteria, Sin, the new Red Skull, has made an awesome discovery...a shameful secret that will rock the foundations of the Marvel Universe! A revelation that will divide father and son, turn friend against friend, and herald the rise of Fear personified. HE IS RETURNING...and the world has nothing to fear but FEAR ITSELF. Matt Fraction and Stuart Immonen bring fans the biggest Marvel the biggest Marvel event since CIVIL WAR!

Looks like his daughter has become the new Red Skrull...

FEAR ITSELF: SIN'S PAST #1
Written by MARK GRUENWALD &JIM McCANN
Penciled by RICH BUCKLER, AL MILGROM & STEFANO LANDINI
Cover by STEPHANIE HANS
The Origin of Sin, daughter of the Red Skull — and some of the quirkiest Cap stories ever told! Captain America, regressed to a 98-pound weakling, vs. a teenage death cult and the Sisters of Sin! Battle Star and the Falcon, together against the Serpent Society! Featuring a special guest-appearance by the voluptuous Sersi! Collecting CAPTAIN AMERICA #355-356 and material from #357, fully remastered with modern coloring. Plus: an all-new framing sequence by Jim McCann (HAWKEYE & MOCKINGBIRD) and Stefano Landini.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/201104/FEARITSIN_COV_col.jpg

Black bolt z
^ Biggest event since Civil War? That doesn't sound good.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Fraction's going to do to the rest of the Marvel Universe what he did to Thor and Uncanny.

willRules
Well it's the best time for Marvel to bring this out. With Thor and Cap on the way with hints that Cap's movie might make reference to some Nazis finding Asgardian relics, it only makes sense to bring out a comic event with the focus on Cap and Thor dealing with a Nazi who finds some ancient Asgardian evil. rolleyes

Bentley

basilisk
In addition to Red Skull, part of this is that they will be facing down a resurrected Franklin Delano Roosevelt - who has returned with the powers of the recently deceased CHAOS KING - and he's NOT happy with the decadent state of modern society in the Marvel Universe.

Bentley
Originally posted by basilisk
In addition to Red Skull, part of this is that they will be facing down a resurrected Franklin Delano Roosevelt - who has returned with the powers of the recently deceased CHAOS KING - and he's NOT happy with the decadent state of modern society in the Marvel Universe.


What? Do you really think the Chaos King dies? And then we don't forget about him forever?

I find it hard to believe.

basilisk
Originally posted by Bentley
What? Do you really think the Chaos King dies? And then we don't forget about him forever?

I find it hard to believe. The series isn't even over yet I'd already almost forgotten about him. Maybe if we're lucky Herc will retcon-punch him out of continuity in the finale, he will turn back into Mikaboshi, and all the other gods will come back.

Konton
Originally posted by willRules
I think I might be the only person on the planet who isn't a fan of Fraction's work. None of this looks appealing. The last couple of years have really steered me away from Marvel and towards DC which, as a Marvel zombie, is painful to admit.

I'm in the same boat.

Fraction had no idea how to correctly characterize the X-Men and I'll never forgive him for what he did to them.

Nihilist
Fractions Thor one shot were great.

Bentley
Originally posted by Konton
I'm in the same boat.

Fraction had no idea how to correctly characterize the X-Men and I'll never forgive him for what he did to them.


Pr agrees.

inimalist
if Man-Thing doesn't feature prominantly in this, I give up on Marvel

BruceSkywalker
i may give this a try,, but i hope it isn't a huge disappoint

roughrider
Why doesn't Marvel gives the keys to Ed Brubaker for a big event for once?
(And can we actually go a year without one of these, or are the big two (DC & Marvel) just so addicted to sales bumps that come with them?

Deadline
Originally posted by roughrider
Why doesn't Marvel gives the keys to Ed Brubaker for a big event for once?
(And can we actually go a year without one of these, or are the big two (DC & Marvel) just so addicted to sales bumps that come with them?

That wouldn't be too bad, but I'm not really enjoying his work on Secret Avengers. Its not that bad but I'm a little pissed it couldn't be better.

Black bolt z
Parts of it look intresting and parts of it look very unintresting.

Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30686
Apparently the first issue is 56 pages long. And we get the cover for the first issue.

I'm guessing this is going to be another "Beat down the most powerful guy around to show how dangerous and powerful unknown character is" deal. But this time it'll be done using Mjolnir! Five gets you ten Asgard falls. Again. ermm

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1296851628.jpg

Trackz
apparently there's another villain on the side too, marvel's making another vampire villain, there was a teaser about that guy too.

-K-M-
Maybe Thor badly beat someone up and is taking a nap...he looks so peaceful.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Trackz
apparently there's another villain on the side too, marvel's making another vampire villain, there was a teaser about that guy too.

possible spoilers?

Perhaps its an energy vampire wonder man.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1296846802.jpg

"Is he destined to become the next, great Avengers villain"
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30683

Bentley
WM getting respect would be good for a change.


I actually want Sin to do something because an event spawning around Red Skull sounds like a good idea and a change of pace from all these invasion stories.

-K-M-
ALPHA FLIGHT!!!!!!!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30845

Rage.Of.Olympus
^NO ONE CARES!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1297781971.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1297695226.jpg

-K-M-
LIES!

Also the whole random hammers falling is kind of bleh! We'll see how it plays but evil avatars?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Someone's in deniiaaaall.

Yea, weird. I'd never have guessed you had to be worthy to be evil. Kind of sets the concept back doesn't it? Also weird that those characters out of all the bastards out there would fight for the "serpent" hammers (Sounds like something you'd name your penis tbh)

-K-M-
Yeah like Grey Gargoyle? Did I miss something?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Dunno. Out of all the characters, why him? His a C-list villlain.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^NO ONE CARES!



Exactly.....just like Moon Knight.

Bentley
Awesome Alpha Flight.


And shut up about Grey Gargoyle, I just learned he's awesome.

Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1297974485.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1298045850.jpg

BruceSkywalker
i will check out the first issue and go from there

-K-M-
How many Serpant hammers are there? erm

ankur29
^^ hulk looks pretty small compared to thing and colosssus there

inimalist
Originally posted by -K-M-
ALPHA FLIGHT!!!!!!!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30845

ha, I was mad pumped when I saw that

original roster too smile EDIT: errr, without puck...

-K-M-
Yeah Puck currently is the new Devil...oh my.

inimalist
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah Puck currently is the new Devil...oh my.

rly?

I totally missed that. What issues?

-K-M-
Originally posted by inimalist
rly?

I totally missed that. What issues?

Wolverine #5, he is the offical new ruler of Hell smile

inimalist
Originally posted by -K-M-
Wolverine #5, he is the offical new ruler of Hell smile

huh... I suppose that is an upgrade...(?)

-K-M-
Originally posted by inimalist
huh... I suppose that is an upgrade...(?)

Naaa same old Puck just with the Devil's sword which cuts souls apart.

inimalist
Originally posted by -K-M-
Naaa same old Puck just with the Devil's sword which cuts souls apart.

HA!

not so bad at all. Even in hell, puck is kicking ass!

-K-M-
Originally posted by inimalist
HA!

not so bad at all. Even in hell, puck is kicking ass!

Yep he led a revolt against the Devil himself and formed an army. He almost returned back to the land of the living but fell back down to Hell.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/021.jpg

Bentley
It seems Grey Gargoyle will be a part of this event! eek!

Colossus-Big C
i heard rumors that the ancient snakelike god of fear is Father Set. and the serpant hammers are related to the serpant crowns.
in fact the serpant crowns have been repearing lately in other comics

-K-M-
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?disp=img&pid=1298931012

guy222
might b good

Allankles
The promotional art doesn't inspire confidence, but it does seem more interesting than the recent events. Secret Invasion was the last decent premise they had for an event and that was executed so poorly.

But again promotional art here doesn't seem to address the title or nature of the event.

Wtf does fighting for a hammer have to do with an identity crisis or damning secrets?

Rage.Of.Olympus
http://files-cdn.formspring.me/background/20110304/4d718c3e51577.jpg

Bentley
Iron Man is going against Grey Gargoyle on his book.


Not that you care big grin

Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it," said the writer. The rest of the panel took comedic issue at this uncharacteristic news item in the Q and A session and chuckled at Fraction's choice.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31178

facepalm

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously.

And X-men....but thank god he's finished with that

but Fraction did do good work on them Thor One-shots.

Scythe
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it," said the writer. The rest of the panel took comedic issue at this uncharacteristic news item in the Q and A session and chuckled at Fraction's choice.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31178

facepalm

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously.

She frees him? As in, Red Skull?

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it," said the writer. The rest of the panel took comedic issue at this uncharacteristic news item in the Q and A session and chuckled at Fraction's choice.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31178

facepalm

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously.

So some random Asgardian deity we never heard about until now who is actually > Odin?

M'kay.

Allankles
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it," said the writer. The rest of the panel took comedic issue at this uncharacteristic news item in the Q and A session and chuckled at Fraction's choice.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31178

facepalm

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously.

huh And here I thought it was about Phobos getting a big push as an intergalactic force or something. Meh!

Bentley
Originally posted by Scythe
She frees him? As in, Red Skull?


I suppose, Sin's a girl.

quanchi112
This sounds very refreshing. I look forward to this.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it,"
I don't get it.

Warlord
more bull...nice...

-K-M-
Originally posted by Bentley
I suppose, Sin's a girl.

Yeah Red Skull's daughter has taken her fathers name. Didn't I say this would happen a few pages back? shifty

Philosophía
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it," said the writer. The rest of the panel took comedic issue at this uncharacteristic news item in the Q and A session and chuckled at Fraction's choice.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31178

facepalm

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously. You'd beg him to pee in your mouth if he'd have Thor perform some high-end feats, so it's all relative.

Colossus-Big C
what do they mean by "The All Father"
Do they mean he isnt the most powerful skyfather or he isnt supposed to be asgards skyfather?

Rage.Of.Olympus

Bentley
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah Red Skull's daughter has taken her fathers name. Didn't I say this would happen a few pages back? shifty


I like her, but she's in the stupid side of chaos. Poor twisted kid and whoever her mother was.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So some random Asgardian deity we never heard about until now who is actually > Odin?

M'kay.
I seriously wonder why Marvel writers think these "epic tweests" are what people want.

quanchi112

Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh the irony. You're a perfect example of what he said. The Imperative was horrible for Thanos characterization wise and you ate it up like a cum hungry Philo.

Scythe
Originally posted by Bentley
I suppose, Sin's a girl. Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah Red Skull's daughter has taken her fathers name. Didn't I say this would happen a few pages back? shifty

Ohhh, okay. That make sense, didn't know this happened.

-K-M-
Made this post on Jan 18th, 2011 06:05 PM

Originally posted by -K-M-
FEAR ITSELF #1 (of 7)
Written by MATT FRACTION
Pencils & Cover by STUART IMMONEN
Variant Covers by STEVE McNIVEN & STUART IMMONEN
Fantastic Four Anniversary Variant by PAOLO RIVERA
Blank Variant Cover Also Available
DO YOU FEAR...TOMORROW?

In this time of global anxiety, of economic turmoil and mass hysteria, Sin, the new Red Skull, has made an awesome discovery...a shameful secret that will rock the foundations of the Marvel Universe! A revelation that will divide father and son, turn friend against friend, and herald the rise of Fear personified. HE IS RETURNING...and the world has nothing to fear but FEAR ITSELF. Matt Fraction and Stuart Immonen bring fans the biggest Marvel the biggest Marvel event since CIVIL WAR!

Looks like his daughter has become the new Red Skrull...

FEAR ITSELF: SIN'S PAST #1
Written by MARK GRUENWALD &JIM McCANN
Penciled by RICH BUCKLER, AL MILGROM & STEFANO LANDINI
Cover by STEPHANIE HANS
The Origin of Sin, daughter of the Red Skull — and some of the quirkiest Cap stories ever told! Captain America, regressed to a 98-pound weakling, vs. a teenage death cult and the Sisters of Sin! Battle Star and the Falcon, together against the Serpent Society! Featuring a special guest-appearance by the voluptuous Sersi! Collecting CAPTAIN AMERICA #355-356 and material from #357, fully remastered with modern coloring. Plus: an all-new framing sequence by Jim McCann (HAWKEYE & MOCKINGBIRD) and Stefano Landini.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/201104/FEARITSIN_COV_col.jpg

Captain America #612 she became the new Red Skull

Nihilist
When does this start?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh the irony. You're a perfect example of what he said. The Imperative was horrible for Thanos characterization wise and you ate it up like a cum hungry Philo. I liked the event and felt the actions of him were justified. I do like power showings though and am honest about it. he's the same as well but at least I am honest about it.

Allankles
laughing out loud Is there anything Thanos related you don't like?

Bentley
Drax 131

Bouboumaster
Man, it looks boring and godawful.

Bentley
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Man, it looks boring and godawful.


Are you talking about Grey Gargoyle?

Galan007
Just read Book of the Skull, and was actually intrigued. Think I might continue to check this out.

srankmissingnin
One thing I don't understand about this event, were we supposed to not have known that there were Godheads at the top of the Norse pantheon before Odin? Because that has already been established... it's not that big of a secret.

DarkOdin
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Matt Fraction was asked what "Fear Itself" is actually about. "The Red Skull discovers that Odin isn't the All Father. She frees him and is transformed into a deity for it," said the writer. The rest of the panel took comedic issue at this uncharacteristic news item in the Q and A session and chuckled at Fraction's choice.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31178

facepalm

If anyone disagrees with Fraction being the worst writer in Thor history, they don't deserve to have an opinion. Seriously. Well my only hope is that whatever the original All-father is/was, is that Odin defeated/inprison it and then recreated the world. Well I hope we can get some more feats/stories from Bor if this is going to go back this far.

Colossus-Big C
was it Buri? (bors father)

Sr J-Bieb
I liked it... a lot

Now I'm scared.

JakeTheBank
I'm glad it's not a Bendis-handled event.

-K-M-
I haven't had a chance to read it, but so far there seems to be a lot of people pretty happy with it thus far. However, most events start out really good and fall flat.

DarkOdin
Originally posted by -K-M-
I haven't had a chance to read it, but so far there seems to be a lot of people pretty happy with it thus far. However, most events start out really good and fall flat. Ya so far seems pretty good lots of potential i hope it doesn't swing the other way.

Omega Vision
Does Odin seem a little OOC to anyone else?

He lacks a lot of the poise I come to expect from a God of his rank and status. Thor seemed a lot more mature and well adjusted than he did.

DarkOdin
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Does Odin seem a little OOC to anyone else?

He lacks a lot of the poise I come to expect from a God of his rank and status. Thor seemed a lot more mature and well adjusted than he did. I think it is the norm. Odin IMO has been portrayed in 2 ways.

1. The noble/wise All-father who is the loving father and protect of the nine worlds.

2. The super POED King of Gods who doesn't take any BS and goes around smacking things around when he needs to prove a point.

That being said... The part with the watcher was out of the norm. The 2nd part macking Thor around, round 1 and 2 seemed right

vince_slice
Very good book so far. Can't wait to read the next issue.

Warlord
at last an event seemingly worth trying.

The art is great for a change too.

I wouldn't take any more Annihilators or Avengers art.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Does Odin seem a little OOC to anyone else?

He lacks a lot of the poise I come to expect from a God of his rank and status. Thor seemed a lot more mature and well adjusted than he did.

I thought that much. Granted, Odin can be a manipulative douche, and he has taken it to Thor more times than once. That whole bit about him hating on humanity was what got me. Considering it was Odin's entire idea to teach Thor humility and give him the soul of a mortal man in addition to that of a god so he could undo Ragnarok, it seemed bizarre that Odin was so pissed/upset that Thor chose humanity over Asgard. He's done it...more times than I can count, and Odin accepted that much.

I figure Fraction's reasoning is that Odin is sorely disappointed he's back and alive in addition to seeing this Serpent coming back to ruin his plans and stuff.

As far as this "All-Father before Odin" thing goes, perhaps the Serpent is actually one of Those Who Sit Above in Shadow or otherwise related to them. It would make sense, or at least make more sense than some random god we never heard about.

guy222
pretty good start

Warlord

Existere
I dunno if this is how Odin is typically portrayed, and therefore if it's good writing in the sense of being consistent with previous incarnations, but I personally enjoyed it as somebody who doesn't read enough of Thor to have formed a solid impression of Odin beforehand. I thought the character's dialogue was well done, even if it doesn't suit Odin.

Also the art looks snazzy. Except for the Watcher, but they always, always look dumb, so. Whatever.

Warlord
The part where Odin got mad at the Watcher was kind of ammusing

Newjak
Originally posted by Existere
I dunno if this is how Odin is typically portrayed, and therefore if it's good writing in the sense of being consistent with previous incarnations, but I personally enjoyed it as somebody who doesn't read enough of Thor to have formed a solid impression of Odin beforehand. I thought the character's dialogue was well done, even if it doesn't suit Odin.

Also the art looks snazzy. Except for the Watcher, but they always, always look dumb, so. Whatever. It's hard to say Odin has had different styles like most characters.

This could just an all-powerful god not in a good mood because something bad is about to happen and he knows he may not be able to stop it.

That's what I attributed the Watcher as. Less him trying to yell at the Watcher and more of him yelling at himself same with Thor.

dmills
Originally posted by Warlord
The part where Odin got mad at the Watcher was kind of ammusing I loved how Uatu just looked at him like "child please. I was watching since long before you were even an itch in Bor's pants". And then he just turns his back to him (In ancient times this was the ultimate sign of disrespect) and walks away.

Allankles
Just looked at the reviews, looks like it was a good issue. I'll wait about 3 or 4 issues to see how it pans out.

Kazenji
Just read Book Of The Skull that part with Skull doing the ritual in an abandoned building with the magic dudes reminded me of Hellboy.

Colossus-Big C
http://16bitmonster.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/UNCANNYXMEN_540_Cover.jpg

RE: Blaxican
His outfit looks ****ing retarded. Tron, srsly?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
His outfit looks ****ing retarded. Tron, srsly?

Or you know, pretty standard Jack Kirby inspired Gods / Celestial costume design... only with glowing to denote power.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Or you know, pretty standard Jack Kirby inspired Gods / Celestial costume design... only with glowing to denote power. I like how he's developed spider eyes. Spidernaut

Omega Vision
Is the point of these costumes to strike fear? If so, fail.

JakeTheBank
http://marvel.com/news/story/15589/fear_fallout_1

An interview from Fraction himself. Take it as you will.

Harbinger
^ Link seems to be broken.

Kazenji
For you maybe it is

its fine for me.

inimalist
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://marvel.com/news/story/15589/fear_fallout_1

An interview from Fraction himself. Take it as you will.

why is Sin described as an anarchist here:



Isn't she a Nazi?

also, Fraction appears to have the political sensibilities of a grade 8 civics student... "thats democracy" is hardly a profound statement... its a cursory and trite ... no, not the place to rant about this... imho, Fraction doesn't seem to have the nuanced political insight he is being praised for in the interview, though, given the interviewer confused anarchism and nazism, this isn't surprising...

/I'll-save-it-for-the-GDF

Omega Vision
Originally posted by inimalist
given the interviewer confused anarchism and nazism, this isn't surprising...

laughing

I guess it's like people who smear political opponents as Communists AND Nazis...because 'they stand for everything we don't stand for!'

inimalist
Originally posted by Omega Vision
laughing

I guess it's like people who smear political opponents as Communists AND Nazis...because 'they stand for everything we don't stand for!'

its just depressing though. Marvel said from day 1 that they wanted Fear Itself to have some resonance with the political situation that America finds itself in within the modern world... aaaannnnnnd the people writing the comic have a barely cursory level understanding of politics...

The scene where the Avengers were on the roof going like "well, it wasn't dr doom who caused that riot, jeez, things must be terrible in America if there are protests in the street that aren't caused by super villains!", /facepalm. profound. such relevant insight into the political landscape of America.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by inimalist
its just depressing though. Marvel said from day 1 that they wanted Fear Itself to have some resonance with the political situation that America finds itself in within the modern world... aaaannnnnnd the people writing the comic have a barely cursory level understanding of politics...

The scene where the Avengers were on the roof going like "well, it wasn't dr doom who caused that riot, jeez, things must be terrible in America if there are protests in the street that aren't caused by super villains!", /facepalm. profound. such relevant insight into the political landscape of America.
Hasn't Marvel said that about basically every non-Cosmic, non-street level Crossover since Civil War?

This "trying to be relevant" shtick is getting old.

inimalist
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Hasn't Marvel said that about basically every non-Cosmic, non-street level Crossover since Civil War?

This "trying to be relevant" shtick is getting old.

I think what might have happened was Civil War disappointed me so much for the same reason, that I just stopped paying attention until now...

dmills
What's so silly about this is that the public in general was more composed during the "looming economic collapse" then the Government officials who freaked out a couple of years ago lol. The people only got pissed off after the bailouts began, but yet the jobs still disappeared.

inimalist
oh, totally. people are way more calm than the media wants them to be. if you go by what they show on the news, then sure, everyone should be terrified and freak out over trivial things. But in general, the protests people have are calm and collected, etc. The government, the media establishment, all of that, is what is crazy, and there was a great missed opportunity here, though I guess I should wait to see how the series turns out before I get to cynical. lol, oh I appologize for how derailed this thread might get...

Existere
Originally posted by inimalist
lol, oh I appologize for how derailed this thread might get... Maybe not so derailed after all. Talking about an overhyped event called Fear Itself while discussing
Originally posted by inimalist
people are way more calm than the media wants them to be. if you go by what they show on the news, then sure, everyone should be terrified and freak out over trivial things. At least a little ironic if not necessarily on topic.

inimalist
Originally posted by Existere
At least a little ironic if not necessarily on topic.

Thanks smile

I don't know how serious to take it sometimes, I mean, comics are a lot of fun and not always to be taken so literally, but when they come out and say "this is going to reflect the world and have relevance" and it comes up short, I don't think I'm holding them to too high a standard.

Odin yelling at the watcher was amusing though, so there is that

ExodusCloak
Spoilers...warning the link has spoilers on the Worthy.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/12/the-worthy-revealed-1-fear-itself-spoilers/
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/12/the-worthy-revealed-2-fear-itself-spoilers/
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/12/the-worthy-revealed-3-fear-itself-spoilers/

Kazenji
Ah thought so it was The Thing in these pictures i've seen wheres he's been blacked out and in one picture fighting Spidey.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by Kazenji
Ah thought so it was The Thing in these pictures i've seen wheres he's been blacked out and in one picture fighting Spidey.

The solicits kind of gave it away. Lol at Titania

Kazenji
And also you stuffed up on the 3rd link fixed it up if you want to

but i worked it out.

HigH ScholaR
lol the 3rd one reminds me of a certain game

Kazenji
Ha

Kratos for Absorbing Man.

Omega Vision
This Servant of Skadi thing feels like a mix of Blackest Night with Apocalypse's Horsemen.

To me at least.

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