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The Family and Medical Leave Act of 1994 which requires employers to give qualified employees up 60 days of unpaid leave a year.

It's a big deal in my industry, I'm curious what people in this forum know of it and what they think of it.

Awesome.

Support workers.

60 days? Who in the hell needs 60 days paid leave?

I do

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
60 days? Who in the hell needs 60 days paid leave?

You get put on the wrong medication combo. It causes you to have thoughts that you've never had before: suicidal thoughts. You try to commit suicide with pills but in the process, end up in a coma for 3 days, lose 60 lbs, and it takes 4 weeks to regain your strength from the damage you caused your body (Such as properly eating, moving about, etc). You spend the next 2 weeks in an institution to ensure that you are no longer suicidal and all is well.


And this all happened because you had a mix-up with your medications.





Total time: about 2 months.




Could that happen?


Yes. This is the exact story of my coworker and friend.


Some medications make you suicidal as a side effect. It's very weird how shit works in different people.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
60 days? Who in the hell needs 60 days paid leave?

UNPaid, RJ...

And for a simpler example- maternity leave.

Ah, unpaid leave, that makes more sense. But what would a healthy, sane man need it for?

I was off caffeine last night, apologies.

... well a healthy man probably wouldn't need it. I don't think you get it for free regardless; I think the idea is that you are allowed it if you need it.

On checking, caring for a sick immediate relative is covered. That's fair enough for a healthy man.

That seems fair enough, really.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ah, unpaid leave, that makes more sense. But what would a healthy, sane man need it for?

I was off caffeine last night, apologies.

A Doctor must give it to you. You, or an immediate family member that lives with you, must have a medical condition.

Thing is where I am nearly everybody has it and a lot of people abuse it, though some legitimately need it. It can be given intermittanly..you can call in on any given day or days, leave work when you feel like it, all you have to do is say "FMLA" and the employer has to honor it and can press no further, regardless of business levels or staffing conditions. It must be renewed yearly.

In some cases the employer can request medical documentation every 30 days depending on the condition but this is usually for block FMLA given for specific period of time, not for intermittant.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
... well a healthy man probably wouldn't need it. I don't think you get it for free regardless; I think the idea is that you are allowed it if you need it.

On checking, caring for a sick immediate relative is covered. That's fair enough for a healthy man. Wouldn't a person that DDM described in his post be awarded "medical leave?"

Everytime I see this thread I think it's some weird form of super **** My Life.....**** My Life Advanced or something...

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
A Doctor must give it to you. You, or an immediate family member that lives with you, must have a medical condition.

Thing is where I am nearly everybody has it and a lot of people abuse it, though some legitimately need it. It can be given intermittanly..you can call in on any given day or days, leave work when you feel like it, all you have to do is say "FMLA" and the employer has to honor it and can press no further, regardless of business levels or staffing conditions. It must be renewed yearly.

In some cases the employer can request medical documentation every 30 days depending on the condition but this is usually for block FMLA given for specific period of time, not for intermittant.

People will try to abuse laws, of course, but in the case of decent social law like this, that's no reason to dislike the law; it's a reason to improve its policing.

And I'd assume so, RJ, but only that law guarantees that he won't lose his job as a result.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

And I'd assume so, RJ, but only that law guarantees that he won't lose his job as a result. Well, here, at my job anyway, we get two weeks paid vacation. We also are allowed a handful of sick days (non-paid), maternity leave and medical leave. These days do not cut into out two weeks vacation time.

I don't even know if that's relevant, I just felt like sharing.

That blows, only two weeks a year.

I accrue about 16 (16.4 iirc) hours a month of paid leave/vacation time.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
The Family and Medical Leave Act of 1994 which requires employers to give qualified employees up 60 days of unpaid leave a year.


qualified- as in has a good trade or qualified for the unpayed leave?

When I get promoted later this year, I'll get six weeks paid vacation.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
When I get promoted later this year, I'll get six weeks paid vacation.

If.......if!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
When I get promoted later this year, I'll get six weeks paid vacation.

AGM or GM?

Originally posted by Robtard
AGM or GM? GM. I'll get two weeks still as an AGM. When I become an AGM (late spring, early-mid summer), I gotta spend around six months in that position before I become a GM, so hopefully by the end of the year or early 2012 I'll be a GM. It's really up to me, how hard I work at it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
GM. I'll get two weeks still as an AGM. When I become an AGM (late spring, early-mid summer), I gotta spend around six months in that position before I become a GM, so hopefully by the end of the year or early 2012 I'll be a GM. It's really up to me, how hard I work at it.

Only 6-months from a fresh AGM to GM? Sounds a bit rushed, unless you're blowing someone. Who you blowing?

He's spending his shifts trying to blow himself, that should (and does) count for something.

Originally posted by Robtard
Only 6-months from a fresh AGM to GM? Sounds a bit rushed, unless you're blowing someone. Who you blowing? Usually it's about a year, but my regional manager says that with my experience, and the fact that I am actually doing some of the training as we speak, it'll be sixish months for me.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Usually it's about a year, but my regional manager says that with my experience, and the fact that I am actually doing some of the training as we speak, it'll be sixish months for me.

Well godspeed then; when you become GM, I expect free suites with a hooker and not one of those $150.00 whores either. Go classy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well godspeed then; when you become GM, I expect free suites with a hooker and not one of those $150.00 whores either. Go classy.

Oh you'll get free suites when you come to whatever town I'm working in. Hookers? I'll get you a 10 dollar teeth dragging mother of four.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
qualified- as in has a good trade or qualified for the unpayed leave?


Qualified for the leave. You must work at least 1,250 hours a year at your job to qualify. The business must have at least 50 employees and you or an immediate family member who lives with you must have a qualifying medical condition, and there are a lot of them. Your employer, a lawyer, or even a judge cannot determine any of these....only a Doctor can.

double post

Originally posted by Ushgarak
People will try to abuse laws, of course, but in the case of decent social law like this, that's no reason to dislike the law; it's a reason to improve its policing.
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I agree, I personally have FMLA for diabetes and another condition I won't mention here, when my mother was alive and living with me I had it for her. I think it's a good law. I started this thread because it's becoming a commonly abused law...which is hard to police, and it's a HUGE point contention among the business community in the US

Originally posted by Bardock42
That seems fair enough, really.

Huh and here I was expecting a lecture on employer's rights.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Huh and here I was expecting a lecture on employer's rights.

I can give one of those, I think, if you really want.

But on the whole I am not opposed to unpaid leave in special circumstances.