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Who wins ?

Odin

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Odin Why Odin ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why Odin ? Odin has more experience.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Odin has more experience. Thor has thousands of years experience as well and Odin has leaned on Thor countless times in the past.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has thousands of years experience as well and Odin has leaned on Thor countless times in the past. Like I said.

Odin wins because he has more experience with the Odin Force then thor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Like I said.

Odin wins because he has more experience with the Odin Force then thor. Thor had over 100 or so years. What do you feel Thor lacked in terms of the odinforce ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor had over 100 or so years. What do you feel Thor lacked in terms of the odinforce ? And Odin has had like 10x that.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And Odin has had like 10x that. Ok, then mame specifically what Odin does better.

Odin wins

Originally posted by Silent Master
Odin wins How ?

Odin.

Odin all day.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has thousands of years experience as well and Odin has leaned on Thor countless times in the past.

Odin is much more experienced than Thor. So? Remember the Galactus/Surfer comparison you made? Plus hero of the story, vassal etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin all day.



Odin is much more experienced than Thor. So? Remember the Galactus/Surfer comparison you made? Plus hero of the story, vassal etc. Thor can go blow for blow with him and has had enough experience for it to be slight if at all.

No, what comparison ?

Odin by actual virtue of feats with his power and experience to fall back on.

Odin is too much for King Thor, KT should stick to people like Thanos, as KT would win that fight 8/10.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor can go blow for blow with him and has had enough experience for it to be slight if at all.

Really? Based on what? The Odin Force outright told Thor about how little of the Odin Force's true power/potential he utilized. And I didn't see him get any noticeable better with it. He was in a learn as you go type mode.

What? Odin has thousands and thousands -if not millions- of years on Thor. His was "old" by the time Thor was born.

And that's overall experience. Thor had the Odin Force for like 2 centuries as I recall, and as far as I know, the only fight he had against an actual challenge with it was against Desak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, what comparison ?

Galactus relies on his heralds a lot. Doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? Based on what? The Odin Force outright told Thor about how little of the Odin Force's true power/potential he utilized. And I didn't see him get any noticeable better with it. He was in a learn as you go type mode.

What? Odin has thousands and thousands of years on Thor. His was "old" by the time Thor was born.

And that's overall experience. Thor had the Odin Force for like 2 centuries as I recall, and as far as I know, the only fight he had against an actual challenge with it was against Desak.



Galactus relies on his heralds a lot. Doesn't prove anything. In which he beheaded the destroyer himself with a hammer toss.

Thor is a lot closer in terms of power to Odin than the Surfer is to Galactus though. Thor broke them free from their vicious cycle. he's greater than Odin.

It's goes like this Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor.

Originally posted by the Darkone
It's goes like this Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor. I don't think Odin would beat King Thor at all.

Originally posted by the Darkone
It's goes like this Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor.

More like Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor >>> Thanos.

Originally posted by Silent Master
More like Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor >>> Thanos. That's trolling and untrue.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In which he beheaded the destroyer himself with a hammer toss.

Thor is a lot closer in terms of power to Odin than the Surfer is to Galactus though. Thor broke them free from their vicious cycle. he's greater than Odin.

Yea, he did after a incredibly long fight. It's impressive no doubt. Thor entered one of his "enough" modes which he did a lot under Jurgens.

And I doubt the Desak/Destroyer amalgam was as durable as the real Destroyer. One of the reasons the Destroyer was so durable was because of it's perfect design etc. Still a crazy feat.

You do know that I was talking about classic Thor right? Since you felt like mentioning Odin relying on classic Thor. Which lead me to using the Galactus/Surfer analogy to show the fallacious nature of this argument.

Yes, as Rune King Thor when he attained the Wisdom of Odin and the Runes, he was able to break the Ragnarok Cycle. Like Odin planned. It's irrelevant however as this is King Thor. One of the reasons Rune King Thor was so formidable was because he finally became worthy of the Odin Force and it accepted him.

baka definitely not as King Thor.

Odin will beat King Thor, Odin will use the full potential of the Odin-force as where King Thor hasn't even master 25% or 50%, don't get me wrong he was on his way. As Odin had no choice into mastering it battling beings like Surtur, Ymir etc beings threw the centuries Odin had time to develop the Odin force the way he wanted it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, he did after a incredibly long fight where Thor entered one of his "enough" modes which he did a lot under Jurgens. And I doubt the Desak/Destroyer amalgam was as durable as the real Destroyer. One of the reasons the Destroyer was so durable was because of it's perfect design etc.

You do know that I was talking about classic Thor right? Since you felt like mentioning Odin relying on classic Thor. Which lead me to using the Galactus/Surfer analogy to show the fallacious nature of this argument.

Yes, as Rune King Thor when he attained the Wisdom of Odin and the Runes, he was able to break the Ragnarok Cycle. Like Odin planned. It's irrelevant however as this is King Thor. One of the reasons Rune King Thor was so formidable was because he finally became worthy of the Odin Force and it accepted him.

baka definitely not as King Thor. Desak absorbed godly energies and his hammer toss was just this powerful.

Yes, I know.

Odin always knew Thor was going to do things he himself couldn't.

Odin can't wreck the destroyer like King Thor did. hell, Thor minus the odinpower beat strange, hulk, wolverine, etc. to death.

One righteous hammer toss and Odin is down if at all even alive.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, he did. And I doubt the Desak/Destroyer amalgam was as durable as the real Destroyer. One of the reasons the Destroyer was so durable was because of it's perfect design etc.

You do know that I was talking about classic Thor right? Since you felt like mentioning Odin relying on classic Thor. Which lead me to using the Galactus/Surfer analogy to show the fallacious nature of this argument.

Yes, as Rune King Thor when he attained the Wisdom of Odin and the Runes, he was able to break the Ragnarok Cycle. Like Odin planned. It's irrelevant however as this is King Thor. One of the reasons Rune King Thor was so formidable was because he finally became worthy of the Odin Force and it accepted him.

baka definitely not as King Thor.


Exactly, you saw the difference in power in Thor disassemble where RKT owned Mangog and Loki like they were children.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Desak absorbed godly energies and his hammer toss was just this powerful.

Yes, I know.

Odin always knew Thor was going to do things he himself couldn't.

Odin can't wreck the destroyer like King Thor did. hell, Thor minus the odinpower beat strange, hulk, wolverine, etc. to death.

One righteous hammer toss and Odin is down if at all even alive.

facepalm I can't believe I'm in a debate against someone overrating Thor. Seriously.

Yes he does. Which is why using Mjolnir as a conduit for his power was a smart idea instead of blasting him with energy.

Haha. I forgot, you think Galactus >>>>>>> Odin for some reason.

Sure he can. At least the Desak Destroyer. Thor actually never beat Strange as far as I recall, Loki did. He had the Odin Force when he one shot killed Wolverine. Hulk and Thing was impressive mind you, but no one's debating that Thor has more impressive physical feats without the Odin Power.

Lol.

Edit: We never saw anyone defeat Strange. I said Loki because I remembered him rocking the Cloak of Levitation and Eye.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm I can't believe I'm in a debate against someone overrating Thor. Seriously.

Yes he does. Which is why using Mjolnir as a conduit for his power was a smart idea instead of blasting him with energy.

Haha. I forgot, you think Galactus >>>>>>> Odin for some reason.

Sure he can. At least the Desak Destroyer. Thor actually never beat Strange as far as I recall, Loki did. He had the Odin Force when he one shot killed Wolverine. Hulk and Thing was impressive mind you, but no one's debating that Thor has more impressive physical feats without the Odin Power.

Lol.

Edit: We never saw anyone defeat Strange. I said Loki because I remembered him rocking the Cloak of Levitation and Eye. I can't believe I am in a debate with you underrating King Thor.
Something Odin doesn't have here and glad you agree.

Because Galactus is far greater than Odin.

Thought Strange was there but it's been a while so maybe he wasn't. Are you sure he did when he took on Wolverine ?

I am putting the disk in now for a quick refresh.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Exactly, you saw the difference in power in Thor disassemble where RKT owned Mangog and Loki like they were children. Mangog was depowered.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mangog was depowered.


A depowered Mangog is still a beast high trans.

Originally posted by the Darkone
A depowered Mangog is still a beast high trans. Nah. He pwned Loki who siphoned his magic but pwning Mangog while his powers were stolen from Loki isn't impressive.

Destroying Mangog wasn't the impressive part (At that level as Mangog was still intended to be powerful). Easily destroying Loki who had added Mangog's magic to his own and who was also drawing on power from Asgard is. I'd place Loki at average Skyfather level with all that might.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can't believe I am in a debate with you underrating King Thor.
Something Odin doesn't have here and glad you agree.

Because Galactus is far greater than Odin.

Thought Strange was there but it's been a while so maybe he wasn't. Are you sure he did when he took on Wolverine ?

I am putting the disk in now for a quick refresh.

I'm not underrating anyone. Thor is my favorite character in comics as anyone who knows anything about me can tell you, and I'm very well versed in Thor's history. King Thor would get beaten down by Odin.

Odin doesn't have Mjolnir? Irrelevant. He can easily summon the Scepter if it isn't already included (His most used weapon).

Untrue.

He wasn't ever seen defeated on panel but I'm assuming Loki or Enchantress took him out.

Yes, he had the Odin Force.

No need:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsWolverine.jpg

Strange activated the artifact on the next page.

Mangog was still around classic Thanos level.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Destroying Mangog wasn't the impressive part (At that level as Mangog was still intended to be powerful). Easily destroying Loki who had added Mangog's magic to his own and who was also drawing on power from Asgard is. I'd place Loki at average Skyfather level with all that might.



I'm not underrating anyone. Thor is my favorite character in comics as anyone who knows anything about me can tell you, and I'm very well versed in Thor's history. King Thor would get beaten down by Odin.

Odin doesn't have Mjolnir? Irrelevant. He can easily summon the Scepter if it isn't already included (His most used weapon).

Untrue.

He wasn't ever seen defeated on panel but I'm assuming Loki or Enchantress took him out.

Yes, he had the Odin Force.

No need:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsWolverine.jpg

Strange activated the artifact on the next page. No, he wouldn't which makes this rather humorous. Me defending Thor here against your true fave, Odin.

He can summon the scepter all he wants it won't save him.

Yes, off panel but we saw Thor still beat hand to hand more than likely Hulk and the Thing while depowered and taken by surprise.


Yes, I just saw this on my disk but wolverine isn't that impressive anyways.

Yes, I know.Originally posted by Silent Master
Mangog was still around classic Thanos level. Based on ?

Originally posted by Silent Master
More like Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor >>> Thanos. True.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
True. Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ? Feats.

Thor owning Mangog then Loki and his army:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor90.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor92.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor93.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor94.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor95.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor96.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor97.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor98.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor99.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor100.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he wouldn't which makes this rather humorous. Me defending Thor here against your true fave, Odin.

He can summon the scepter all he wants it won't save him.

Yes, off panel but we saw Thor still beat hand to hand more than likely Hulk and the Thing while depowered and taken by surprise.

Yes, I just saw this on my disk but wolverine isn't that impressive anyways.

Odin over Thor? Lol.

So you say.

Ran out of shit to throw at the wall eh?

You brought him up.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Feats. Which ones ?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor owning Mangog then Loki and his army:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor90.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor92.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor93.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor94.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor95.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor96.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor97.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor98.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor99.jpg

I just noticed something for the first time. It was Loki who had brought Mangog back from the dead in the first place.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor owning Mangog then Loki and his army:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor90.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor92.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor93.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor94.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor95.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor96.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor97.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor98.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor99.jpg


They need omening to do Thor again after fraction. Thor disassemble and Storm breaker was off the chain.

Oemings run was so much better than Fraction's run so far.

True fractions is little slow right now but it's good and the art is awesome, but I do love the world eaters. Oeming 4 issue with Thor was instant hit, I mean u couldn't find the first two issue even after the event was over u still couldn't find them.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin over Thor? Lol.

So you say.

Ran out of shit to throw at the wall eh?

You brought him up. Odin has never shown the power to own the destroyer like Thor has and in the scan you posted the other day the disintegrator beam would have killed Odin hence the time stop to get to Loki.

Thor not only tanked this but also killed someone in it who was immune to godly energies.

Thor would beat odin within an inch of his life.

Even Loki fell in line something Odin couldn't do either.

Thor breaks him.

King Thor would own Thanos, but he loses to Odin.

Originally posted by Silent Master
King Thor would own Thanos, but he loses to Odin. Thanos would beat either but King Thor definitely takes this.

King Thor for the majority.

In terms of welding the Odinpower Odin was ahead of King Thor but King Thor should have more raw power then Odin plus the fact mjolnir would be a huge factor in this battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos would beat either but King Thor definitely takes this. No he wouldn't.

And so why did you just create this thread to say that KT stomps?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin has never shown the power to own the destroyer like Thor has and in the scan you posted the other day the disintegrator beam would have killed Odin hence the time stop to get to Loki.

Thor not only tanked this but also killed someone in it who was immune to godly energies.

1. Thor never owned the Destroyer but the Desak amalgam.
2. Odin has easily defeated the Destroyer in the past.

Yea, the Disintegrator Beam was apparently capable of killing Odin back then.

Early Silver Age Destroyer was Odin's perfect creation and Ultimate Weapon infused/created through the Odin Power and enchanted by Odin himself. Completely immune to all forms of harm, and could destroy anything. Yes, including apparently Odin. At least if he doesn't defend himself in some exotic way. Ultimate durability and Ultimate offense.

Clearly the Destroyer has been toned down since then.

Fun fact: The Destroyer being capable of killing Galactus a decade later was possible going by one of your most used references in debates with me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor would beat odin within an inch of his life.

Even Loki fell in line something Odin couldn't do either.

Thor breaks him.

Lol. Again: You ran out of shit to throw at the wall eh?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Thor never owned the Destroyer but the Desak amalgam.
2. Odin has easily defeated the Destroyer in the past.

Yea, the Disintegrator Beam was apparently capable of killing Odin back then.

Early Silver Age Destroyer was Odin's perfect creation and Ultimate Weapon infused/created through the Odin Power and enchanted by Odin himself. Completely immune to all forms of harm, and could destroy anything. Yes, including apparently Odin. At least if he doesn't defend himself in some exotic way. Ultimate durability and Ultimate offense.

Clearly the Destroyer has been toned down since then.

Fun fact: The Destroyer being capable of killing Galactus a decade later was possible going by one of your most used references in debates with me.



Lol. Again: You ran out of shit to throw at the wall eh?

Right on rage at that point destroyer shot out bolts of unlimited energy at that point if i remember right

Originally posted by Silent Master
More like Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor >>> Thanos.

Originally posted by Silent Master
King Thor would own Thanos, but he loses to Odin.

Odin goes back in time, slaps Gaea, and watches a porno instead........Ultimate Ownage

Originally posted by DarkOdin
King Thor for the majority.

In terms of welding the Odinpower Odin was ahead of King Thor but King Thor should have more raw power then Odin plus the fact mjolnir would be a huge factor in this battle. Mjolnir is a non issue as Odin had better control of it than Thor and could easily remove it if my memory serves correctly.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Mjolnir is a non issue as Odin had better control of it than Thor and could easily remove it if my memory serves correctly. He could to classic Thor however i doubt Odin could Do that to King Thor. If Thor throws mjolnit i can see Odin ctaching it like Bor did and zeus has doen hwoever If KingThor uses it to amp his own energy atatcks and counter block or drain some of odins Thor would be ahead of the game

Originally posted by the Darkone
It's goes like this Rune King Thor>>> Odin>>> King Thor>>> Odin Force Thor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No he wouldn't.

And so why did you just create this thread to say that KT stomps? I think he takes this I never said stomps. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Thor never owned the Destroyer but the Desak amalgam.
2. Odin has easily defeated the Destroyer in the past.

Yea, the Disintegrator Beam was apparently capable of killing Odin back then.

Early Silver Age Destroyer was Odin's perfect creation and Ultimate Weapon infused/created through the Odin Power and enchanted by Odin himself. Completely immune to all forms of harm, and could destroy anything. Yes, including apparently Odin. At least if he doesn't defend himself in some exotic way. Ultimate durability and Ultimate offense.

Clearly the Destroyer has been toned down since then.

Fun fact: The Destroyer being capable of killing Galactus a decade later was possible going by one of your most used references in debates with me.



Lol. Again: You ran out of shit to throw at the wall eh? 1.That's even more impressive since he was immune to godly energies.

2.Never in this manner and has also been portrayed as vulnerable to death when the disentegrators were about to fire.

No, the destroyer hasn't been you want to ignore your own scan. You don't even believe your own arguments and want to pick and choose. Whether Odin can defeat the destroyer is moot since he's been portrayed as vulnerable to death whereas King Thor tanked them all.

You say this all the time. King Thor's hammer toss here would wreck Odin since it could kill a being who is immune to godly energies while in the destroyer armor.