How many Thor's would it take to beat SBP?

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keiththegreat
I know Superman has defeated Superboy Prime, but how many Thor's would it take to win the majority against him?

(when I say Thor's, I mean an exact copy of all powers and hammer)

iceman24567
Superman has never defeated "Super"boy Prime no expression

Bentley
Pft, how many times you need to add one to reach infinite?

Black bolt z
8?

The Nuul
Just need Rage's Thor.

chomperx9
1 King Thor solos

Omega Vision
No matter how many Thors you send at him Prime will just create more dials. crackers

ares834
Originally posted by Bentley
Pft, how many times you need to add one to reach infinite?

quanchi112
2.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Bentley
Pft, how many times you need to add one to reach infinite? This thumb up

Uriel005
Originally posted by iceman24567
This thumb up Now thats just wank. But Thor and Standard Supes are on par with eachother IMO on durability and SBP weaknesses are really mitigated by the fact that magic does f*ck all against him. I'd give it a solid 4 Thor's on Warrior Madness and Belt's. However as a caveat SBP heat vision punched straight through Superman Earth-1 hand so headshots would definitely put thor under so in reality that number could bump but I feel confident Thors wouldn't just stand and take it.

tross
1 King Thor

iceman24567
He said Thor and it would take about 999 Thors

Mindset
One powered by Rage, and I mean the user.

quanchi112
Originally posted by iceman24567
He said Thor and it would take about 999 Thors How many top tiers has Prime beat all attacking him at once ?

iceman24567
Originally posted by Mindset
One powered by Rage, and I mean the user. Which = 999 Thors duh

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Uriel005
Now thats just wank. But Thor and Standard Supes are on par with eachother IMO on durability and SBP weaknesses are really mitigated by the fact that magic does f*ck all against him. I'd give it a solid 4 Thor's on Warrior Madness and Belt's. However as a caveat SBP heat vision punched straight through Superman Earth-1 hand so headshots would definitely put thor under so in reality that number could bump but I feel confident Thors wouldn't just stand and take it.


remember, Supes doesn't have the luxury of a Mjolnir to intercept his heat vision.

Warlord
The same amount as the required Supermans minus one stick out tongue

Fifthchild
Originally posted by Bentley
Pft, how many times you need to add one to reach infinite?

Its hardly that bad. The problem is that numbers dont really stack in the same way - a guy with the strength and durability of 10 men is going to make pretty short work of 10 normal men. I think if Thor was 3 or 4 times as powerful he would take Prime (particularly given the relative mental toughness of the two) but it would probably take a few more individual Thors to make an impression.

MrMind
sbp got defeated because of red son depower, plus mainly due to earth-2 (pre-crisis) sup and plot device. It would take whole lot of regular thor to even match sbp at full power.

Deadline
I dunno man SBPs heat vision easily went through Superman. SBP could go heat vision and kill a crap load of Thors.

PillarofOsiris
It really depends on how intelligently Thor fights. One Thor has beaten more impressive people than SBP. He can also simply use BFR. But, if the Thor's fight like they normally do, it could take a few to get the job done. I'd say 4 would win the majority if they use all of their powers and don't fight like Thor does against the Hulk.

Also, here's Thor against Gladiator's eye beams:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGladiator02.jpg

Superman doesn't have that option.

I also wonder what a godblast would do to SBP. (or 4 godblasts)

Rage.Of.Olympus
That was nothing special Deadline. As seen in his fight against Zod, Kryptonians can penetrate other Kryptonian's with heat vision.

Luckily, Thor is a lot more versatile than Superman and can do everything from blocking to absorbing heat vision.

In regards to the thread question. All you would need is a single Thor willing to get exotic and perhaps another to play cannon fodder (Prime loves it when he has the advantage in a physical fight). People are acting as if Prime punches holes in Superman or something.

Energy absorption plus Mjolnir's defenses is all the abilities Thor needs to defeat Prime. It won't even be that difficult because Prime always rushes in head first and never utilizes his speed unless someone does it first as far as I've seen.

Deadline
^ Sorry but what on earth are you talking about? SBP >>>> Gladiator. A few could get the job done? confused

Rage.Of.Olympus
I think his point is that Thor can block Prime's heat vision. It isn't as if his heat vision travels noticeably faster than Gladiator's.

PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by Deadline
^ Sorry but what on earth are you talking about? SBP >>>> Gladiator. A few could get the job done? confused

Well, unfortunately I don't have a scan of Thor absorbing SBP's eye beams. But, do you have any idea of the energy Thor's hammer has absorbed? He absorbed and deflected Glory's energy blast back at him, killing him and ripping a hole in reality, this is from a being composed of 10,000 gods of many absorbed pantheons...which implies many skyfathers included. He's absorbed a galaxy busting attack and re-directed it to re-ignite a dead star. SBP's is nothing compared to some of the levels of energy Thor's hammer has absorbed. But like I said, how likely is it that Thor will use his exotic abilities? IDK. Thor tends to fight to the level of his opponent so maybe he would.

Uriel005
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Well, unfortunately I don't have a scan of Thor absorbing SBP's eye beams. But, do you have any idea of the energy Thor's hammer has absorbed? He absorbed and deflected Glory's energy blast back at him, killing him and ripping a hole in reality, this is from a being composed of 10,000 gods of many absorbed pantheons...which implies many skyfathers included. He's absorbed a galaxy busting attack and re-directed it to re-ignite a dead star. SBP's is nothing compared to some of the levels of energy Thor's hammer has absorbed. But like I said, how likely is it that Thor will use his exotic abilities? IDK. Thor tends to fight to the level of his opponent so maybe he would. And yet Thor channeling too much energy through Mjolnir breaks it to a point where he needs strange's help to fix it hmmm...

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Uriel005
And yet Thor channeling too much energy through Mjolnir breaks it to a point where he needs strange's help to fix it hmmm...

What? That's now what happened. The only time Mjolnir was overloaded was when Thor used his God Blast. A bit of a low showing for the hammer but whatever.

Are you implying Prime's heat vision can overload Mjolnir?

-Pr-
Originally posted by Omega Vision
No matter how many Thors you send at him Prime will just create more dials. crackers

laughing out loud

in all seriousness, though, 1.

PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by Uriel005
And yet Thor channeling too much energy through Mjolnir breaks it to a point where he needs strange's help to fix it hmmm...

A contradiction in a comic book? Amazing.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by -Pr-
in all seriousness, though, 1. pr1983

Uriel005
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
A contradiction in a comic book? Amazing. Oh no not so much that it can't stop SBP heatvision just that it has limits. Just throwing it out there

-Pr-
Originally posted by Parmaniac
pr1983

that's my smiley.

Philosophía
Originally posted by -Pr-
that's my smiley. And this is rage's line:
Originally posted by -Pr-
laughing out loud

in all seriousness, though, 1.
Your point? uhuh

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Uriel005
Oh no not so much that it can't stop SBP heatvision just that it has limits. Just throwing it out there

It's limits are far beyond the power Prime is capable of dishing out.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
pr1983

I'm guessing his using either a higher end Thor or a Thor that gets exotic.

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People need to stop acting like Prime's some damn Skyfather. Thor has faced guys on Prime's level physically and above him in power on different occasions.

Like I said in a previous thread, I have absolutely no doubt a pissed off Thor/Superman level character will give Prime a hell of a fight one on one in a comic. Probably win if someone they love was in danger.

People need to start realizing how comics work. 3 (4 at best) or more characters facing a single individual opponent start fighting stupid or become cannon fodder. There's a reason why Bart or Conner taking on Prime solo are more effective than Superman taking him on with Power Girl, and Super Girl.

-Pr-
I just don't rate Prime that highly.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by -Pr-
laughing out loud

in all seriousness, though, 1.
For a majority?

-Pr-
Originally posted by Omega Vision
For a majority?

No. While I think Thor could take Prime some of the time, I still see Prime's ferocity grabbing him the majority.

tideoftime
I'd say it would take a Quan# of Thors to beat SBP... which should equal something like 1 or 2, if I know my Quan math equations... wink

EDIT: ZOMG... I responded before scanning for others' posts, and got to Quan, who posted "2"...

Do I know my math, or what...? big grin

Spire
More than one.

Badabing
Originally posted by keiththegreat
I know Superman has defeated Superboy Prime, but how many Thor's would it take to win the majority against him?

(when I say Thor's, I mean an exact copy of all powers and hammer) At least 3.

carver9
1

Badabing
Originally posted by -Pr-
laughing out loud

in all seriousness, though, 1. Originally posted by carver9
1 You both fail. durpalm

And also...
Originally posted by -Pr-
warned.

sneer

carver9
Lolhahaha

Black bolt z
It would take more then 1.

Anyone that says to is dur1.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Badabing
You both fail. durpalm

And also...


sneer

shock

Slaanesh
probably 3

Badabing
Originally posted by carver9
Lolhahaha Originally posted by -Pr-
shock Yeah, that's right. You both had the same answer. dursmart

Uriel005
Originally posted by Slaanesh
probably 3 I'd say 4 to be on the safe side to take majority.

Space M ummy
Since we know SBP can be depowered with red solar radiation, the answer is one. Thor has too many avenues to exploit it, the easiest being BFR to the core of a red sun and just dismantling him.

Without the weakness exploit, who knows.

Uriel005
SBP standard gear is sun armor.

Space M ummy
Originally posted by Uriel005
SBP standard gear is sun armor.

Thor standard gear (mjolnir) has matter manipulation and antimatter creation abilities. That armor would be turned to dust in minutes, if he wasn't simply teleported out of it.

That solar armor is little more than a plot device, and a bad one at that.

TheTyrant
Three or four.

keiththegreat
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Thor standard gear (mjolnir) has matter manipulation and antimatter creation abilities. That armor would be turned to dust in minutes, if he wasn't simply teleported out of it.

That solar armor is little more than a plot device, and a bad one at that.

I agree that if Thor used all his powers he's ever shown to have, he can take this one on one. But if we're talking about the Thor who shows up to 80% of all of his comics, you know....the same guy who basically hits people with his hammer over and over again and uses the occasional lightning bolt...then its gonna take 3 at least.

SquallX
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Thor standard gear (mjolnir) has matter manipulation and antimatter creation abilities. That armor would be turned to dust in minutes, if he wasn't simply teleported out of it.

That solar armor is little more than a plot device, and a bad one at that.

Prime already survived in Anti-Matter.

How is the Solar Armor being bad plot device.

quanchi112
Originally posted by keiththegreat
I agree that if Thor used all his powers he's ever shown to have, he can take this one on one. But if we're talking about the Thor who shows up to 80% of all of his comics, you know....the same guy who basically hits people with his hammer over and over again and uses the occasional lightning bolt...then its gonna take 3 at least. 2 would be all that's needed here still.

Uriel005
I think as many thors as there are guardians in this pic at minimum.

harten
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Thor standard gear (mjolnir) has matter manipulation and antimatter creation abilities. That armor would be turned to dust in minutes, if he wasn't simply teleported out of it.

That solar armor is little more than a plot device, and a bad one at that.

you talk bullshit, mjolnir doesnt have matter manipulation powers thats just a big wet fanboy dream right there, second of all why do you asume thor will know about his wekness and how to exploit it? thor doesnt know anything about SBP unless it was stated by the OP and even if he knew he would still get his head punched off his shoulders via super speed and a much much stronger oponnent than him, do you honestly see thor taking on hords of DC top tiers at once? didnt think so

black adam punches tickled SBP he treated black adam like a ***** who i would say is stronger and more durable than thor by far

harten
both SBP and black adam took out groups and teams of class 100 beings and above, what did thor ever do? yeah right his only impressive feats are blood and thunder where it wasnt ordenery thor he was powered up, thor couldnt even handle the U FOES i mean its a group of what? 40 tonners? or the freaking wrecking crew that gives him trouble and owned him several times?give me a break you even compare thor to SBP? it would take many thors to stop him since i see SBP just killing all the thors with heat vision and punches one after another

Uriel005
Originally posted by harten
both SBP and black adam took out groups and teams of class 100 beings and above, what did thor ever do? yeah right his only impressive feats are blood and thunder where it wasnt ordenery thor he was powered up, thor couldnt even handle the U FOES i mean its a group of what? 40 tonners? or the freaking wrecking crew that gives him trouble and owned him several times?give me a break you even compare thor to SBP? it would take many thors to stop him since i see SBP just killing all the thors with heat vision and punches one after another thats senseless wank idiot. Thor does have matter and energy manip feats also forum rules says that they each have a basic understanding of their opponents kryptonite is a pretty basic fact about supes as well as solar radiation. read the rules and at least understand what a characters capabilities are at their most basic before commenting.

harten
Originally posted by Uriel005
thats senseless wank idiot. Thor does have matter and energy manip feats also forum rules says that they each have a basic understanding of their opponents kryptonite is a pretty basic fact about supes as well as solar radiation. read the rules and at least understand what a characters capabilities are at their most basic before commenting.

prove that thor can matter manipulate show me scans of him using matter manipulation with his hammer or else you are a liar, as i said before he can understand the powers all he want he is getting his head ripped off his shoulders in less than a second

Parmaniac
Originally posted by harten
both SBP and black adam took out groups and teams of class 100 beings and above, what did thor ever do? yeah right his only impressive feats are blood and thunder where it wasnt ordenery thor he was powered up, thor couldnt even handle the U FOES i mean its a group of what? 40 tonners? I don't think you have a clue how powerful the U-Foes can be.

Nihilist
4

Parmaniac
Funny, I was thinking 4 myself but wasn't sure to post now most people seem to share that thought...

Nihilist
Iirc it took 2 Supermen to beat a weak Prime, and we all know Superman>>>>Thor

Rage.Of.Olympus
I really hope the people saying 3 or 4 Thor's is there opinion of how many it would take for Thor to win the majority, and not just win because a single Thor is capable of beating Prime. His taken foes on Prime's level physically and held his own. Thor's also defeated greater foes than Prime with methods that would be effective enough for a win on Prime.

That being said, a single Thor being able to beat Prime doesn't mean that Thor will take the majority over Prime. Unless your using a purely higher end Thor or one who resorts to his exotic power set frequently, I don't think his taking the majority personally like most I assume. You'd need two Thor's. Three Thor's take it over Prime every time.

753
Originally posted by harten
prove that thor can matter manipulate show me scans of him using matter manipulation with his hammer or else you are a liar, as i said before he can understand the powers all he want he is getting his head ripped off his shoulders in less than a second there you go

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir40-Transmutation.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir63-TransmutationAvengers.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir88-Transmutation240.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir162-Healing428.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir171-Transmutation475.jpg

Thor's higher end feats are much better than black adam's little tantrums by the way.


It would take about 5 thors to take a majority against a non-weakened SBP considering CIS on for both of them.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by harten
prove that thor can matter manipulate show me scans of him using matter manipulation with his hammer or else you are a liar, as i said before he can understand the powers all he want he is getting his head ripped off his shoulders in less than a second

Uses matter manipulation to weave himself a new costume.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation2.jpg

Transmutes the elements to defeat Absorbing Man.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation4.jpg

Reverses the process that gave Hyperion his powers and traps him inside a glass sphere.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion4.jpg

After Shadowcat phases Thor into the ground, Thor reverses the process.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/WithstandsKittyPhasing3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/WithstandsKittyPhasing4.jpg

Transforms a pyramid into an orange grove.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TransportsPyramid1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TransportsPyramid2.jpg

Creates a breathable atmosphere from the remnants of planetary material.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/CreatesAtmosphere1-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/CreatesAtmosphere2.jpg

753
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uses matter manipulation to weave himself a new costume.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation2.jpg

Transmutes the elements to defeat Absorbing Man.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thortransmutation4.jpg

Reverses the process that gave Hyperion his powers and traps him inside a glass sphere.

After Shadowcat phases Thor into the ground, Thor reverses the process.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/WithstandsKittyPhasing3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/WithstandsKittyPhasing4.jpg

Transforms a pyramid into an orange grove.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TransportsPyramid1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TransportsPyramid2.jpg

Creates a breathable atmosphere from the remnants of planetary material.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/CreatesAtmosphere1-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/CreatesAtmosphere2.jpg I so beat you to it

Rage.Of.Olympus
mad Damn you!

MONSTAR
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