Flashpoint

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-Pr-
Did a search, couldn't find anything.

So, this is DC's big event for the year, but instead of Green Lanterns of a crisis of sorts, it's something to do with the Flash, and possibly time travel.

Teasers:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5533/logoscombov3477x1024.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7586/flsv21.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8333/flsv212.jpg


Looks like tons of Barry wankery.

Impressions?

Philosophía
Originally posted by -Pr-
Looks like tons of Barry wankery."He spends his days running Wayne casinos."

I feel Geoff's love for Bruce so much.

Galan007
Originally posted by -Pr-
Impressions?
Yeah:
Originally posted by -Pr-
Looks like tons of Barry wankery. However, I usually enjoy Johns' Flash-related stories, so I've still got some hope.


...Not much, though. ermm

BruceSkywalker
i may look at the issue of flashpoint, but beyond that i will wait and see

-Pr-

Gecko4lif
How is bats fighting flash?

-K-M-
Originally posted by -Pr-

also, i don't like the "marriage" foreshadowing.

Meh! Aquaman and Wonder Woman have dated before. Mera will be pissed.

willRules
I'm not a fan of Flash but this looks fun. Looks like it'll be DC's version of House of M with Flash in the Wolverine role....

....could be good.

EDIT: Plus- Kubert's on art droolio

-Pr-
Originally posted by -K-M-
Meh! Aquaman and Wonder Woman have dated before. Mera will be pissed.

I hope Mera stabs her, just because.

I was actually hoping that now Arthur was back, he'd get some respect, which he seemed to be in Brightest Day. Dude should just invade Paradise Island and be done with it.

Rage.Of.Olympus
The hate is strong in this one.

Deadline
hahaha is that Batman holding his own against Flash? I bet you they're actually gonna do it, they will have Batman fighting Flash in h2h and doing well. roflmao

-Pr-
Originally posted by Deadline
hahaha is that Batman holding his own against Flash? I bet you they're actually gonna do it, they will have Batman fighting Flash in h2h and doing well. roflmao

considering how much johns wanks the flash, i doubt it.

Philosophía
Originally posted by -Pr-
considering how much johns wanks the flash, i doubt it. That's probably a depowered Barry, punching the shit out of Batman.

All that's missing there is Hal owning Spectre in the background and Superman being outrun by Kid Flash, and the picture would be complete.

-Pr-

Spire
http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/01/flashpoint11.jpg

GL or Supes?

Philosophía
I'm guessing Hal. My guess is Superman is this:

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/01/flashpoint3.jpg

Thus the soldiers guarded S-marked vault in the 'comic trailer'.

Black bolt z
Doesn't look that intresting.

Spire

jalek moye
I'll check it out, sounds somewhat interesting just see how things are but not sure if I'll fully follow it

BlackZero30x
ive actually been rather excited and intrigued for this!

Prep-Man
Me too. DC's events have been slightly better than Marvel's, IMO. I think this will be good.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Me too. DC's events have been slightly better than Marvel's, IMO. I think this will be good.

my thoughts exactly! not to mention it's flash based so that makes me a little biased anyways lol

The Nuul
Originally posted by Deadline
hahaha is that Batman holding his own against Flash? I bet you they're actually gonna do it, they will have Batman fighting Flash in h2h and doing well. roflmao

But Punisher could amrite?

Kazenji
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Me too. DC's events have been slightly better than Marvel's, IMO. I think this will be good.

Cept with DC ones they drag on for too long.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Kazenji
Cept with DC ones they drag on for too long.

I think it depends on their pacing. For example, i never got bored with Sinestro Corps...

-Pr-

Prep-Man
Pretty much all events drag on. DC or Marvel.

Kazenji
DC alot more these days.

Prep-Man
I think these events should be a little longer, anyways. The average event is like 7 issues and a crap load of tie ins. I think 12 issues should do it, because they pretty much end in rushed manner.

Anyway, this event could be good or it could end like all the others. Time will tell.

Bentley
Sounds interesting but I'm not currently reading Flash books -and frankly, getting rid of Wally sounds annoying to me-, but if the books are good right now I could start.

Are the books good?

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Bentley
Sounds interesting but I'm not currently reading Flash books -and frankly, getting rid of Wally sounds annoying to me-, but if the books are good right now I could start.

Are the books good?

They're not really getting rid of Wally. he'll be in a new book called Speed Force. Flash has been pretty fun, but not great. Reverse Flash is bad ass, though.

Bentley
I think that events should be two books a month and about 10 or 12 issues. Tie ins tend to be somewhat better because the narrative is either compressed or stalled so it fits the "event" length. I would rather have events that read like 52 than what we are currently getting.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
They're not really getting rid of Wally. he'll be in a new book called Speed Force. Flash has been pretty fun, but not great. Reverse Flash is bad ass, though.


I didn't know about Speed Force, sounds good thumb up

BlackZero30x
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2011/01/28/dc-sets-up-flashpoint/

some info people might not have known

Prep-Man
I hope it has lasting affects.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I hope it has lasting affects.

i hope since this will have reality altering effects that they will use it to "fix" the dc universe. I also hope that since this has reality altering effects that they won't milk an "alternate reality" story line later....im getting sick of all of these other universes.

Prep-Man
http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/02/04/flashpoint-friday-first-look-at-the-cover-to-flashpoint-1/

Prep-Man
Anyone read the latest flash? Pretty interesting on who Hot Pursuit is.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Anyone read the latest flash? Pretty interesting on who Hot Pursuit is.

no doubt! makes me wonder what happens to him in the future..... but i will say it makes me feel like dc is gonna do to Barry Allen what marvel did to Steve Rodgers.....you know bring him back to life and then make him into a new character...

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
no doubt! makes me wonder what happens to him in the future..... but i will say it makes me feel like dc is gonna do to Barry Allen what marvel did to Steve Rodgers.....you know bring him back to life and then make him into a new character...

if they do than i hope he doesn't have a goofy looking costume laughing out loud

JakeTheBank
Interesting:



Wonder if they'll re-number the series or something.

kevdude
Could be that or calling it The Reverse Flash from what some people have said.

Prep-Man
Flashpoint is looking awesome!

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/

Galan007
What an odd time for DC to have Amethyst return. She seems a bit out of place here. ermmnone

Prep-Man
Traci 13 is in this. Cool.

Allankles
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Doesn't look that intresting.

Prep-Man
Lots of cool stuff from the various creators. Can't wait to see the new characters.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Deadline
hahaha is that Batman holding his own against Flash? I bet you they're actually gonna do it, they will have Batman fighting Flash in h2h and doing well. roflmao
Maybe it's their Mortal Kombat vs DC equivalents. stick out tongue

Deadline
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Maybe it's their Mortal Kombat vs DC equivalents. stick out tongue

So did it actually happen?

JakeTheBank
Well, this is really no shocker to anyone but...



I think the latest issue of the Flash was the first time we've seen Wally for a while in DC and it looks like it will be more of the same here with Flashpoint.

Taken from http://comics.ign.com/articles/116/1163018p1.html

-Pr-
Johns is like Palpatine at this point...

Prep-Man
Flash will end, but the Speed Force book will show Wally.

Bentley
I don't get why some creators love so much the Silver Age, more balance would be cool.

Prep-Man
Well the latest Flash was interesting. Professor Zoom has unlocked some of the secrets in the Negative Speed Force. He'll have new powers now.

Prep-Man
Some cool Search for Swamp Thing covers.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/05/bdayast_cv1_var_r1.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/05/hellblazercover_b.jpg

Daemon Seed

Rage.Of.Olympus
F*ck Barry, Johns and his stupid ass retcon. I want Wally back. Barry is even less interesting than Hal.

Galan007
I'm actually liking Barry, atm. I dig the fact that he is, essentially, his own lightning bolt (ie. he internally generates the SF) - hence why the SF cannot be drained from him completely.

However, Barry being the linchpin for the speed force in general is a bit ballsy on Johns' part... I'm wondering where he'll go with that.

Prep-Man
Flashpoint #1 coming out this week.

-Pr-
3 pluses from issue one:

The twist
Figuring out who's who in the alternate universe
The way they worked Captain Marvel

The rest of it... Ok, I guess... Though I have to say I smirked when Barry fell down the stairs, doing his best Xavier impression

Galan007
The first issue was a bit anticlimactic, imo. The most excitement I got from it is that we will definitely see Captain Marvel and Dianna square off in future issues - but other then that.... ermm

Flash #12 was WAY better.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by -Pr-
3 pluses from issue one:

The twist
Figuring out who's who in the alternate universe
The way they worked Captain Marvel

The rest of it... Ok, I guess... Though I have to say I smirked when Barry fell down the stairs, doing his best Xavier impression

Originally posted by Galan007
The first issue was a bit anticlimactic, imo. The most excitement I got from it is that we will definitely see Captain Marvel and Dianna square off in future issues - but other then that.... ermm

Flash #12 was WAY better.


does the first issue read smoothly?

Galan007
It flows nicely, yeah. Just wasn't overly eventful.

guy222
indeed

Prep-Man
Enjoyed it quite a bit.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Galan007
It flows nicely, yeah. Just wasn't overly eventful.

Thanks i will read it shortly

BlackZero30x
to my flashpoint review.......i really enjoyed the first issue.....it caused enough mystery to keep me hooked....although i do have some theory's. i just hope they can tie it all up in the given five issues.


EDIT: anyone else find Captain Thunder really badass seeming?

Prep-Man
i def want to see more of capt thunder.

kevdude
Looks like something big is coming to the DCU after Flashpoint, called The Dark. Could it be Darkseids return? Or have something to do with Blackest Night?? Let the rumors begin! News from Bleeding Cool.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/06/dc-are-bringing-you-the-dark/

ares834
Possiable DC Reboot?

Prep-Man
Hmm, I think the Dark has something to do with Swamp Thing.

Prep-Man
Some interesting interviews.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/

JakeTheBank
I really, really, REALLY, hope that this leads to a Captain Marvel/Shazam! resurgence in mainstream DC. I appreciate the fresh twist on Captain Thunder, who seems to be both an homage to the original concept of Captain Marvel (several individuals with an aspect of the power who merge into a single being) as well as a nod to Infinity Man.

If anyone deserves an ongoing post Flashpoint, it really ought to be Captain Marvel.

BlackZero30x
I just read Abin Sur: The Green Lantern and i enjoyed it! but it is completely obvious they tried to make it look like the movie....from the way the outfit & ring looks to the guardians.

Prep-Man
What about the other tie ins. Anyone read them? Anyone?

BlackZero30x
i couldn't afford them until Friday sad but i think gl and bats are the only tie ins im gonna be picking up anyways...can't afford to get them all.

anyone read the bats tie in or world of flash point?

BlackZero30x
i read Flashpoint #2 and you know what i enjoyed it! that "surprise" ending i found interesting but im thinking i know what will happen....Barry's flash powers will kick in, in the next book healing his body from the accident...as speedsters tend to do.

Prep-Man
Shade one was pretty cool. Interesting powers.

Prep-Man
anyone read Frankenstein? I heard it was pretty aweosme.

Galan007
God I love Frankenstein (first issue was great, btw.) I'm SO glad DC has finally started to use him more.

srankmissingnin
Grifter was in Flash Point 3! eek!

Flash Point still continues to suck though.

GGS
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Grifter was in Flash Point 3! eek!

Flash Point still continues to suck though.

You picking up the Grifter or Voodoo book? sounds like Grifter is the only who can see the Daemonites from what i've heard.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by GGS
You picking up the Grifter or Voodoo book? sounds like Grifter is the only who can see the Daemonites from what i've heard.

Yeah it's like They Live... only with Grifter! eek!

Prep-Man
Ah, shite, REALLY?!

Prep-Man
Read it. The best of the 3 issues. Pretty damn good and a Grifter cameo doesn't hurt, either.

SevenShackles
"Welcome to The Resisty"
http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Wildstorm-Flashpoint-3.jpg

Prep-Man
Rumor has it, Grifter will shoot Zoom in the head.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Rumor has it, Grifter will shoot Zoom in the head.

that... wouldnt be such a bad thing to see. hope there is a good reason he can if he does.

Galan007
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Rumor has it, Grifter will shoot Zoom in the head. I'm losing touch with DC. Slowly but surely. sad

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm losing touch with DC. Slowly but surely. sad

thumb up

Prep-Man
I was joking about the Grifter thing, but wouldn't mind if Grifter did that. Relax people.

Bentley
I thought it was clearly a joke. I can see it happening though.

Also, loving the fact Wally went down like a chump in a Flash event.

BlackZero30x
was anyone else as bothered by the "dog" skeleton in flashpoint 3.....it made me feel awfully sad.....

Robin Dc
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
was anyone else as bothered by the "dog" skeleton in flashpoint 3.....it made me feel awfully sad..... I agree.

Blair Wind
So what the heck is Flashpoint about exactly? From the few reviews I've seen it doesn't seem to have anything to actually do with the Flash (Amazon vs Atlanteans, Batman is Thomas and Joker is Martha, etc). I admit I haven't been following closely, so what is the summary of it?

HueyFreeman
Originally posted by Blair Wind
So what the heck is Flashpoint about exactly? From the few reviews I've seen it doesn't seem to have anything to actually do with the Flash (Amazon vs Atlanteans, Batman is Thomas and Joker is Martha, etc). I admit I haven't been following closely, so what is the summary of it? Its your standard villian alters time story. Its just a cheap plot device to allow entry of the reboot.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I was joking about the Grifter thing, but wouldn't mind if Grifter did that. Relax people.

If that happened I would die of blood loss after getting a boner so massive and engorged that it exploded.

Prep-Man
possible spoilers...

so, now Barry is the embodiment of the Speed Force. I think he literally has all it's power, thanks to Bart

Galan007
I don't think Barry is the embodiment of the speed force (it was pretty clearly shown that Bart has claimed that title.) However, Bart did give Barry "what he needs to save the world."

Anyway, my favorite mini during this event has been Project Superman. It was very well done, imo.

Bentley
I was curious about which were the best minis of Flashpoint.

From those I read (I was interested in Project Superman, but I missed the first issue, so I didn't jump in, incidentally I also missed the Flashpoint issue in which Superman may have appeared), my favorites were the Rogues -Citizen Cold- and Grodd's as a somewhat pointless but still cool issue about Grodd. The rest I found meh, including the main series. I did enjoy the Outsider mini, but it was a bit too much on the "I'm so cool" side of things to my taste.

I'd have liked better a mini about Captain Marvel sad

Galan007
Imo, Project Superman was the best mini, by far. You should check out the last 2 issues for sure.

Frankenstein and the Creatures of the Unknown was also pretty good.

Prep-Man
Some tidbits for issue 5.

Philosophía
Flashpoint #5 preview:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/42/news/?a=45376

Massive spoilers there. Turns out Zoom Is not responsable for any of the changes, at least not directly.

As it turns out, Geoff Johns wankage doesn't have a limit. Barry retcons the DCU by getting mad enough, involuntarily.

-K-M-
Big reveal from FanExpo....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=34143

This news piqued some interest, though it was quickly overshadowed by another announcement. "We reveal one of our main heroes that we've seen for a while is Canadian," Berganza hinted of the impending relaunch, before confirming that hero in question is none other than Booster Gold.

Bentley
I'm surprised Canada still exists in the future.


I guess is a fictional universe after all.

-K-M-
Canada ovetakes the US just like the present smile

Prep-Man
Booster is Canadian in the new DCU.

-K-M-
haha yeah that is a little out of left field.

DC got critized for not having Canadian characters, so they introduced this indian mountiee that got taken out by one punch. Guess this is their please forgive us token

Galan007

Prep-Man
Where did barry get the power to do that?

Galan007
Johns + Bart.

Prep-Man
smile Nicely put.

JakeTheBank
The ending was okay for me. It was classic-Johns wankery, but aside from that, it was alright.

Galan007
Yeah, I enjoyed Flashpoint as a whole. Like Jake said, the ending (ie. Barry being wholly responsible for retconning the entire DCU) was ridiculous- but I've been ready for that, so it didn't kill the issue for me.

On the other hand, I REALLY liked how S1 showed up and shit-stomped everyone in his path. thumb up

JakeTheBank
^ Which was really impressive considering he was obviously still weakened a great deal due to the long status of captivity he was in and had only really been exposed to a very small level of yellow sun intake.

Galan007
^ Agreed. The ownage had a SBP-esque quality about it- that is to say, S1 dominated every 'baddie' on the field with an extreme degree of ease.

AlmightyKfish
When it mentions the 3 universes in the double page spread, what 3 universes is it mentioning?

I figured Mainstream DCU, Wildstorm and then wasn't quite sure on the third?

I mean, it could have meant the Vertigoverse, but seeing as that isn't actually changing ( Hellblazer is still running etc), I assumed it couldn't be that? Though maybe I'm just giving Johns too much credit in terms of him paying attention to that fact...

Galan007
If you check out the illustrations, it looks like the mainstream DCU, Wildstorm, and the new 52... But I'm not entirely sure.

Bentley
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Agreed. The ownage had a SBP-esque quality about it- that is to say, S1 dominated every 'baddie' on the field with an extreme degree of ease.


S1 was the best of that damn universe thumb up

Philosophía
The three Universes are Vertigo (Swamp Thing, John Constantine etc.), Wildstorm (Apollo, Midnighter, Grifter etc.) and the mainstream Universe (classic hero/villain costumes), on the left side of the page, while in the other side there was the new Universe, with all of those characters combined (Sinestro, Swamp Thing and Apollo in the same panel on the top right, or the JLA and Grifter on the bottom left).

Originally posted by Galan007
On the other hand, I REALLY liked how S1 showed up and shit-stomped everyone in his path. thumb up thumb up

Galan007

Batman-Prime
Who is the Woman "fixing the Timeline? She seems the one responsible for all? Barry isn't doing it by himself it seems.

Prep-Man
Nobody knows. She'll supposedly appear in all of the #1 issues. Like where is Waldo!? big grin

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/31/52-appearances-of-the-strange-woman-from-flashpoint-5/

-Pr-
Harbinger maybe?

Badabing
I was impressed with the end of Flashpoint.

JLA #1 was good.

Digi
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Who is the Woman "fixing the Timeline? She seems the one responsible for all? Barry isn't doing it by himself it seems.

No clue. Seemed kinda deus ex, if that makes sense, seeing as how the whole event was about Barry, but the shift in the timeline apparently isn't. Thawne being the source of the shift (or Barry, like it seemed like it was going to be) would've worked just as well.

Bruce's note at the end was a legitimately cool touch.

Prep-Man
Hey, guys. I'm confused on something.

Does this mean Earth 50 doesn't exist anymore? So, is every Wildstorm character merged with the DCU?

Digi
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Hey, guys. I'm confused on something.

Does this mean Earth 50 doesn't exist anymore? So, is every Wildstorm character merged with the DCU?

Not every character. There's lots that didn't make the move.

But yeah, it's likely it doesn't exist, or possibly never existed in the current timeline. They'll probably sprinkle in WS characters in the coming years that aren't in a launch title, so others will likely pop up.

WS books weren't selling, the whole line went belly-up on its own about a year ago. I doubt they'll come back as a separate universe ever again.

Galan007
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Nobody knows. She'll supposedly appear in all of the #1 issues. Like where is Waldo!? big grin Heh, I like this idea.

Here is her 'appearance' from JL #1:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/JL_1_Oroboros_CPS_027.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
Harbinger maybe? Whoever she is, she's got a good deal of power.

Not only has she been aware of the existence of the multiple timelines for quite a while, but, with Barry's 'help', she was able to merge said timelines.

JakeTheBank
Great catch, Galan. thumb up

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Digi
Not every character. There's lots that didn't make the move.

But yeah, it's likely it doesn't exist, or possibly never existed in the current timeline. They'll probably sprinkle in WS characters in the coming years that aren't in a launch title, so others will likely pop up.

WS books weren't selling, the whole line went belly-up on its own about a year ago. I doubt they'll come back as a separate universe ever again.

I saw Warblade there and I got real excited. stick out tongue Hopefully he pops up in Grifter.

ares834
Originally posted by Galan007
Heh, I like this idea.

Here is her 'appearance' from JL #1:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/JL_1_Oroboros_CPS_027.jpg

Intresting. I was wondering why someone was wearing a hood at the game.

Prep-Man
Here is another cameo of her. From HAwk and Dove.

http://cdn.modernman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/HKDV1_19.jpg

Galan007
That one is TOO noticeable. srsly

Galan007
Anyone else think there might be some correlation between the strange woman at the end of Flashpoint #5, and the strange woman at the end of Booster Gold #47 who was writing Flashpoint-related 'prophecies' on Rip's chalkboard..?

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/571/fp5oroboroscps030031.th.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2357/bg47oroboroscps031.th.jpg

It'd make sense..

Philosophía
Maybe, but I somewhat doubt it. The way I see it, the woman appearing in Flashpoint is some sort of Time Trapper 'Prime', while the one from Booster is just that chick who sacrificed herself for Booster earlier.

Galan007

Prep-Man
And another from Voodoo.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad214/prepman005/1314983756.jpg

She just might be a new character entirely.

Gecko4lif
Looks like canary

AlmightyKfish
Over at Multiversity they pointed out something which I thought was kinda interesting.

The fact is, Barry has essentially done something incredibly similar to what Hal did during Zero Hour etc, and yet has had nowhere near as much negative backlash or been as villified as Hal was for his actions.

I mean, once again, you have a hero trying to prevent a personal loss, and in doing so, screwing over the entire universe. I mean yes, Barry isn't going insane and murdering people like Hal did, but he still successfully changed the entire universe for a stupid, pointless and selfish endeavour...

I just thought it was a pretty interesting point...

JakeTheBank
Yeah, that is interesting. Especially considering how Batman was very understanding about it, and conversely, he blasted Hal Jordan for his actions as Parallax, even after finding out about the fact that it wasn't entirely his fault and really the result of a fear demon bug.

Galan007
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Over at Multiversity they pointed out something which I thought was kinda interesting.

The fact is, Barry has essentially done something incredibly similar to what Hal did during Zero Hour etc, and yet has had nowhere near as much negative backlash or been as villified as Hal was for his actions.

I mean, once again, you have a hero trying to prevent a personal loss, and in doing so, screwing over the entire universe. I mean yes, Barry isn't going insane and murdering people like Hal did, but he still successfully changed the entire universe for a stupid, pointless and selfish endeavour...

I just thought it was a pretty interesting point... I somewhat disagree.

Hal/Parallax wanted to destroy the existing universe and replace it with a new universe cast in his own image- one that he ultimately had total control over... And he was willing to (and did) kill anyone/thing that got in his way.

On the other hand, Barry's 'motives' for running back in time, and subsequently meeting up with the Strange Woman/merging the timelines, were completely opposite (plus he didn't murder mass amounts of innocents in the process.) That is why Parallax was viewed as a murderer/villain (rightfully so), and Barry was not. Imo.

AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by Galan007
I somewhat disagree.

Hal/Parallax wanted to destroy the existing universe and replace it with a new universe cast in his own image- one that he ultimately had total control over... And he was willing to (and did) kill anyone/thing that got in his way.

On the other hand, Barry's 'motives' for running back in time, and subsequently meeting up with the Strange Woman/merging the timelines, were completely opposite (plus he didn't murder mass amounts of innocents in the process.) That is why Parallax was viewed as a murderer/villain (rightfully so), and Barry was not. Imo.

Well I guess you have a point there, Barry never sunk to the depths Hal did. I mean, I didn't mean to suggest Barry was an outright villain, it's just that his actions weren't exactly heroic, or at least, they weren't very responsible. It just seems to mirror Hal's start as Parallax- wanted to rebuild Coast City so decided to take the CPB...

Martian_mind
Eh, Barry is and always had been a whiny little dick, much like Hal.

Galan007
Appearances of the Strange Woman...



Batgirl:

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/394/sw1az.th.jpg


Swamp Thing:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7048/sw2sl.th.jpg


OMAC:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5457/sw3dl.th.jpg


Green Arrow:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9564/sw4z.th.jpg


Static Shock:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4584/sw5t.th.jpg


Detective Comics:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7653/sw6z.th.jpg


Stormwatch:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3710/sw7k.th.jpg

Galan007
Appearances of the Strange Woman (continued)...



Men of War:

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6052/sw8y.th.jpg


Batwing:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7885/sw9.th.jpg


Action Comics:

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2773/sw10e.th.jpg


Hawk & Dove:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2166/sw11.th.jpg


Animal Man:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7185/sw12w.th.jpg


Justice League International:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4991/sw13k.th.jpg

Galan007
This week's appearances of the Strange Woman:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/14/13-more-appearances-of-the-strange-woman-of-the-dc-new-52/

Galan007
This week's appearances of the Strange Woman:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/21/twelbe-more-appearance-of-the-new-52-strange-woman-in-this-weeks-dc-comics/

tsscls
It's Harbinger.

Galan007
Only time will tell...

Prep-Man
Harbinger is dead.

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