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Pure H2h.

1: Bar type brawl
2: People can use speed and such.

CIS off.

1) Based on the second scenario I'm assuming the first scenario is all strength, durability, and skill. If so, edge to Thor with Orion, and Clark being runner ups.

2) In this scenario Superman has the advantage as his the fastest but I think either Thor, Orion or Surfer have the capabilities to tag him. Flip a coin between Orion/Superman/Thor. Leaning towards Superman perhaps.

Hard to pick a winner in this type of battles. Match ups matter.

Superman wins.

Superman in both, Orion being his only real competition.

First fight is between Orion and Thor.

superman and orion
thor doesn't stand a chance without energy projection

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/499adcda1843477134eb7b3795ff90e63867eda2_m.jpg Take it away Rage....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/499adcda1843477134eb7b3795ff90e63867eda2_m.jpg

This is the nastiest picture I have seen in my entire life.

1.Orion
2.Superman

How about we stop quoting it then?

Originally posted by Spire
How about we stop quoting it then? Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/499adcda1843477134eb7b3795ff90e63867eda2_m.jpg

1. Superman or Orion
2. Thor

1- Orion - Runner-up: Maxam
2- Superman - Runner-up: Surfer

Surfer in both.

Originally posted by carver9
1. Superman or Orion
2. Thor LOL?

I think you mixed 1 and 2 up.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
LOL?

I think you mixed 1 and 2 up.

Naah, supes and orion master h2h in a scenerio against the peeps here. I give either the edge.

2. I didn't it mixed... they get to use all of their abilities right?

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, supes and orion master h2h in a scenerio against the peeps here. I give either the edge.

2. I didn't it mixed... they get to use all of their abilities right? I'm not sure, it says H2H only but they get speed and "such" whatever besides speed that means.

If they only get speed it's even more in favor for Supes.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm not sure, it says H2H only but they get speed and "such" whatever besides speed that means.

If they only get speed it's even more in favor for Supes. In 1 its just bar type brawling. They pretty much just slug it out.

In 2 they can use speed and skill but still only H2h.

Originally posted by carver9
1. Superman or Orion
2. Thor


looks good.

1. Thor/Orion
2. Superman

1. Orion
2. Supes

Bump

Thor is too much for them.

Superman has even admitted that Thor can defeat him easily.

Thor and everyone is a statue to Superman after the moon reconstruction feat.

Another thing, Thor is shown consistently weaker physically than Hulk, someone no where near as strong as Superman. Without his hammer, he couldn't even destroy a country physically

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Thor and everyone is a statue to Superman after the moon reconstruction feat. superman has also stated that Thor is much faster than him.

Scans? And Superman oneshots Slowdinson btw

Orion

Superman with Orion as runner up.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Pure H2h.

1: Bar type brawl
2: People can use speed and such.

CIS off. 1. "Bar type" brawl? You mean, in addition to punching, they hit each other with chairs, cue sticks and such? Oh wait ...
2. What do you mean by "and such"? What else is there besides speed (strength and durability already implicit). Fighting skill? Intangibility? Supersenses?

I see Supes likely winning both scenarios. Cue sticks break; speed kills. Surfer survives though with the most intact face (a few dents); Thor and Orion celebrate the fights afterward with drinks; Maxam seeks a better publicity agent.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Scans? And Superman oneshots Slowdinson btw Superman did not say it in a comic book. It was during an interview with Larry King.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Thor and everyone is a statue to Superman after the moon reconstruction feat.

Another thing, Thor is shown consistently weaker physically than Hulk, someone no where near as strong as Superman. Without his hammer, he couldn't even destroy a country physically you're trolling.........you have to be.

Originally posted by carver9
1. Superman or Orion
2. Thor

How is Thor beating Superman in h2h carter?

I mean look at Superman against an army of kryptonians.

https://i.postimg.cc/kBrzXSHn/019-009.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/8fvYmk7Q/RCO004.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Th5B60C7/RCO008.jpg

Thor would just look like this before getting his skull cracked.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39672022/Avengers_010-015.jpg.html

Do you have the scan that states all of those beings are kryptonians?

Originally posted by carver9
Do you have the scan that states all of those beings are kryptonians?
https://i.postimg.cc/6qbNwyw3/RCO004.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
https://i.postimg.cc/6qbNwyw3/RCO004.jpg

What was this scan for? Are you talking about the part where it said "krypton sends their worst creatures, criminals and garbage"?

Originally posted by carver9
What was this scan for? Are you talking about the part where it said "krypton sends their worst creatures, criminals and garbage"?
Yes

Superman wins both. The rest can vie for 2nd place.

Originally posted by carver9
Originally posted by Parmaniac
LOL?

I think you mixed 1 and 2 up.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
In 1 its just bar type brawling. They pretty much just slug it out.

In 2 they can use speed and skill but still only H2h.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I mean look at Superman against an army of kryptonians.


Thor would just look like this before getting his skull cracked.

Lol, so obsessed with Superman vs. a bunch of no-names that you seem to be heavily speculating are all as powerful as a standard Kryptonian who we are assuming are Class 100.

Here is something actually impressive:
https://i.postimg.cc/2bSHdDmV/RCO008-w.jpg] https://i.postimg.cc/ppFsJkNY/RCO010.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/R6hR6LQt/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/pyyGpRqS/RCO012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/w15FSvj1/RCO013.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/cKXhLbYZ/RCO017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/94W1VhDJ/RCO018.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/sQLJpGwN/RCO019.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/zLzmQ481/RCO020.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/kVTrPwgR/RCO021.jpg

Avenger's Prime #5.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Avengers-Prime/Issue-5?id=115711

That's Desak, Bor, Skurge, the Enchanters, Majestor Zelia of the Dark Gods etc. He then goes to fight Hela with Twilight when he gets back Mjolnir evenly (He beats her with help).

Thor would overpower Superman with one-arm behind his back and one-shot kill Rogool Zaar if we use these two instances as comparisons.

Abhilgened is so sad. He gets one shitty and ambiguous feat, and spams 3 different message boards with it. Settle down little guy, everyone still knows Rogool Zaar has been making Superman his b*tch for 4 months now consistently. Just because you have the time to consistently spam threads, don't forget the pecking order.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Lol, so obsessed with Superman vs. a bunch of no-names that you seem to be heavily speculating are all as powerful as a standard Kryptonian who we are assuming are Class 100.

All kryptonians are class 100 ragey boy. We are not talking about puny asgardians here.

Yeah, dead souls in Hel who don't retain their power.

So surprising.

Or Superman would crack Thor's skull like an egg.

Nobody is sadder than you rage. Not even carver.

Rogol Zaar couldn't beat a weakening Superman even with the help of an entire army and while Superman was holding back.

You think about King Crab and Ursa Major in the meantime kid.

Oh that's why he's been bumping old threads and creating ones like these?

Originally posted by abhilegend


Yeah, dead souls in Hel who don't retain their power.

So surprising.


Thor sees Hela ressurect such powerful dead: "I know not where you have found the power to do this...."

Hela fails to overpower Mjolnir's enchantment's and resorts to bringing back Bor: "There may be one who lives in my vast domain who may break the enchantments that connects Thor to this damned weapon."
https://i.postimg.cc/1f9q4pxB/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/QFz96wFY/RCO012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0zjK0PyJ/RCO013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HJ7JFz5Y/RCO014.jpg

Avengers Prime #4.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Avengers-Prime/Issue-4?id=115710

Abhilgiend: "It doesn't count because the dead don't retain their power, but it's actually because I don't like it and it shits all over everything Superman did." crybaby

P.S. There are entire storylines of the dead of Asgard operating in the realms of Hela, as they would in the living, and casually crossing over once released. I just stuck to this one more relevant story, because it's no fun beating up the slow kid on the bus with a baseball butt. A pillow case full of nickles is just fine.

Just so we're clear. Abhiligend is assuming this collection of circus freaks and random aliens all retain their power in the Phantom Zone (Which ACTUALLY drains the powers of it's denizens as recently as the last two years) are Kryptonian level:
https://postimg.cc/Th5B60C7

While at the same time, assuming that Hela's resurrected dead don't retain their power. Btw, this is Hela with the Twilight Sword, a weapon capable of warping all of reality:
https://i.postimg.cc/kVTrPwgR/RCO021.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PpWMnTZ5/RCO022.jpg

I'll let you go back to spamming your stupidity, I just wanted to remind you how easy it is to shit all over your parade using your own parameters.

I also make sure to put the scans to the issues with issue numbers so individuals can read the comics for themselves, and laugh at your stupidity.

Edit: I almost missed this:
Originally posted by abhilegend

Rogol Zaar couldn't beat a weakening Superman even with the help of an entire army and while Superman was holding back.


https://i.postimg.cc/6qbNwyw3/RCO004.jpg

"I can't seem to beat him in a physical confrontation. I can't win in hand-to-hand combat..."



*Superman gets beat up. Owned and admits he can't win in internal monologue.*
Abhiligend: Superman is holding back.

And wait. This is the BEST part. Superman is WEAKENING in the Phantom Zone, as everyone would expect. But the half dozen collection of freaks that have been there for decades, are NOT? Despite being Kryptonian?

Stay classy Abhiligend.

This is nothing new. I've brought up that scene with Zelia, Bor, Forsung, Desak, Skurge on more than one occasion.


This showing that Abhi keeps bringing up is still pretty gud though, I gotta admit...

Hulk is probably the King Ding a'ling in team busting, but Thor busts whole armies on the regs...

U guys r really honoring Thor. And rightly so.
The most experience and training falls to Orion and Thor.
Thor is more durable and stronger than Orion.

Thor takes this.

What happened to Black bolt z?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor sees Hela ressurect such powerful dead: "I know not where you have found the power to do this...."

Hela fails to overpower Mjolnir's enchantment's and resorts to bringing back Bor: "There may be one who lives in my vast domain who may break the enchantments that connects Thor to this damned weapon."
https://i.postimg.cc/1f9q4pxB/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/QFz96wFY/RCO012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0zjK0PyJ/RCO013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HJ7JFz5Y/RCO014.jpg

Avengers Prime #4.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Avengers-Prime/Issue-4?id=115710

Abhilgiend: "It doesn't count because the dead don't retain their power, but it's actually because I don't like it and it shits all over everything Superman did." crybaby

Sometimes it seems you are as idiotic as Thor himself.

Avengers Prime, Bor can't wield mjolnir.

https://i.postimg.cc/nCM83nf9/RCO013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/hfYkwNKy/RCO014.jpg

Thor 600, Bor casually wields mjolnir to Thor's astonishment.
https://i.postimg.cc/CnxyTgZt/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/XXj6yw28/RCO020.jpg

Anyone with a brain would think the dead are not as powerful as the living but not our ragey boy.

Abhiligend, neither I or anyone else forgets Thor #600. Bor failing to wield Mjolnir is because Thor is still alive and the enchantment still holds, not because he is less powerful (Read the scans). This is why I linked the comic.

My favorite aspect about this is how ignorant you are of Asgardian Hel being a separate realm where living/dead crossover when released by Hela. Like say....the current issue where Thor and Balder are fighting together.

Fyi, Hela wields the Twilight Sword. Spider-Man could resurrect Thanos at full power with that.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is nothing new. I've brought up that scene with Zelia, Bor, Forsung, Desak, Skurge on more than one occasion.


This showing that Abhi keeps bringing up is still pretty gud though, I gotta admit...

Hulk is probably the King Ding a'ling in team busting, but Thor busts whole armies on the regs...
And get this, you get the same treatment as rage as lying through your teeth.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Abhiligend, neither I or anyone else forgets Thor #600. Bor failing to wield Mjolnir is because Thor is still alive and the enchantment still holds, not because he is less powerful (Read the scans). This is why I linked the comic.

Thor being alive has never been a part of the spell. When Thor dies, mjolnir doesn't becomes easier to lift.



Aaron being a continuity buff? Like say Mjolnir housing a storm the size of a galaxy as per the previous comics, eh?

I guess Hela is too stupid for that. And losing to Enchantress too.

In two posts, you have pulled on depiction of previous writers and yet dismissed anything that is not Bendis for Thor (Negatively) and doing the same for Superman (Positively).

So which is it, are we only sticking to what Bendis has written in these two stories for Thor and Superman, or are we not? Or do you have a scan of Bendis, explicitly saying that Kryptonian's only fly when they have reached full power?

P.S. I wager I know more about Thor's enchantment than you do. I know how it works, throughout all of continuity, both in comics and out of comics in regards to editorial opinion. However, the "new" classic enchantment was not the reason given in those scans. Bor was resurrected specifically to break the enchantment and was not able to lift the hammer because Thor was still alive. That doesn't explicitly chive with all continuity but it does not necessarily contradict it either; before Walter Simonson introduced Beta Ray Bill, being Worthy "the old classic enchantment" was synonymous with being Thor. I.e. he was the only one who could lift the hammer aside from Destroyer/Odin while it was enchanted.

I highly doubt Bendis was being a heavy continuity buff at the moment, it is not in his character, but he did say he read up on a few old Thor stories for this particular series (Which is obvious by him including Desak and the Enchanters) so perhaps he was. I can't read minds; just post the scans and follow the print.

The rest is you literally just dismissing anything you dislike or disagree with. Not even really points. It could be comments under a random youtube video tbh.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In two posts, you have pulled on depiction of previous writers and yet dismissed anything that is not Bendis for Thor (Negatively) and doing the same for Superman (Positively).

Guess what, Bendis is an inconsistent writer. Shocking news to someone like you I guess.

Unless contradicted, that's what happens in actual continuity. If Bor had lifted mjolnir, I wouldn't say he was weakened in Hel.

I hardly think so. You aren't the only one who has read Thor's comics.

Bor being resurrected to break the enchantment (more to the point he was specifically stated to be able to lift it because he had already done it) and Thor being alive doesn't changes the spell on it.

Your usual mental gymnastics are coming into play I see.

Yeah, fat loads of proof you posted "I guess Bendis did this, now agree with me Damn you".

Concession accepted. Again.

Was any kind of deeper info ever given about Maxam's powers, besides the obvious?
Anybody know?