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so..... how this goez? no bfr.

Annihilus.

Good fight, Thanos wins.

Tough fight for Thanos but he can do it 7.5/10.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Good fight, Thanos wins.

how?

by outlasting hjim through immortality and reaching a similar though perhaps slightly inferior power output

How?

The Q-bands constructs won't hold Thanos for even 15 seconds. He'd just smash through them. Can they drain his energy attacks? If they fall within the EM spectrum yes, otherwise nope. So that's out.

It comes down to Annihilus vs Thanos and power wise I don't think Annihilus is anywhere near Thanos.

The only reason I gave Annihilus 2.5-3 chance out of 10 to win, is if Thanos energy blasts fall within the EM spectrum and hence under the Q-bands complete control.

Thanos had far greater power output, Thanos killed Phyla in 1 shot whilst weak, Annihilus couldnt even knock her out.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos had far greater power output, Thanos killed Phyla in 1 shot whilst weak, Annihilus couldnt even knock her out.


Um she didn't have the bands when she got smoke .


Thanos wins the vast majority, he can absorb energy including life force as well. Thanos has handle Quasar in the past Abbihilus wouldn't be any different, Thanos 10/10.

Originally posted by zopzop
How?

The Q-bands constructs won't hold Thanos for even 15 seconds. He'd just smash through them. Can they drain his energy attacks? If they fall within the EM spectrum yes, otherwise nope. So that's out.

It comes down to Annihilus vs Thanos and power wise I don't think Annihilus is anywhere near Thanos.

The only reason I gave Annihilus 2.5-3 chance out of 10 to win, is if Thanos energy blasts fall within the EM spectrum and hence under the Q-bands complete control.

his energy is 'cosmic'. why wouldn't it he be able to drain it?

Originally posted by zopzop
How?

The Q-bands constructs won't hold Thanos for even 15 seconds. He'd just smash through them. Can they drain his energy attacks? If they fall within the EM spectrum yes, otherwise nope. So that's out.

It comes down to Annihilus vs Thanos and power wise I don't think Annihilus is anywhere near Thanos.

The only reason I gave Annihilus 2.5-3 chance out of 10 to win, is if Thanos energy blasts fall within the EM spectrum and hence under the Q-bands complete control. I think it hard to say if Annihilus can absorb drain all Thanos energy/power due to it origin of cosmic,dark magic,bio implants and power bestowed upon him by death.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Um she didn't have the bands when she got smoke .


Thanos wins the vast majority, he can absorb energy including life force as well. Thanos has handle Quasar in the past Abbihilus wouldn't be any different, Thanos 10/10. No but she was the avatar of death at that point, plus Thanos 1 shotted her during Annihilation aswell. Iirc Annihilus couldnt kill her when he had the bands.

Originally posted by leonidas
his energy is 'cosmic'. why wouldn't it he be able to drain it? Its a mixture, not just coamic, and he has a limitless darksource of energy as Odin put it.

Thanos stomps.

Originally posted by Nihilist
No but she was the avatar of death at that point, plus Thanos 1 shotted her during Annihilation aswell. Iirc Annihilus couldnt kill her when he had the bands.
No she wasnt. the instant he was born she was ousted

Thanos..

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No she wasnt. the instant he was born she was ousted yup, they used her up and tossed her out. she was powerless and it was pretty much a surprise attack

Thanos wins. He is slightly above Annihilus in the cosmic pecking order even with the Qbands.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No she wasnt. the instant he was born she was ousted Originally posted by 753
yup, they used her up and tossed her out. she was powerless and it was pretty much a surprise attack She was working for Oblivion and was still the Avatar untill Thanos killed her.

Originally posted by Nihilist
She was working for Oblivion and was still the Avatar untill Thanos killed her. Maelstrom was the avatar of Oblivion and uncle O set her up as the avatar of Death to prepare the way for the rise of thanos. As I understand, as soon as thanos awoke, she lost the juice. Besides, being these entities avatar's doesnt really mean power, Drax is epoch's or eternity's pet, but he's a street leveller from space. Thanos came back seemingly stronger, but the only power we can really say death gave him was rejection. Phyla lacked any relevant feats or powers (she caried a sword, what else?) as martyr to sugest surprise oneshoting her was a big deal, specially since the rest of the GoG survived in that planet for hours while thanos hunted them down.

Originally posted by 753
Maelstrom was the avatar of Oblivion and uncle O set her up as the avatar of Death to prepare the way for the rise of thanos. As I understand, as soon as thanos awoke, she lost the juice. Besides, being these entities avatar's doesnt really mean power, Drax is epoch's or eternity's pet, but he's a street leveller from space. Thanos came back seemingly stronger, but the only power we can really say death gave him was rejection. Phyla lacked any relevant feats or powers (she caried a sword, what else?) as martyr to sugest surprise oneshoting her was a big deal, specially since the rest of the GoG survived in that planet for hours while thanos hunted them down.

She wasnt Oblivions avatar, she was just a agent for him. The whole "set up" was in regards to the"END WAR" and not just Thanos coming back which was supposedly a future DnA event. Phyla never lost any juice once Thanos was reborn, she was just defenceless from the suprise attack(and it was stated several times being reborn too early made him weak). Thes word she carried was a quatum sword, the same sword she used through the whole of the Conquest arc and killed Ultron with it iirc.

Thanos is over all more powerful than Annihilus w/Q-bands or without it! Thanos is a high level trans as where w/Q-bands Annihilus is low or mid Herald, not a threat to Thanos maybe pain the a$$ that's it. Thanos will own him 10/10.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanos is over all more powerful than Annihilus w/Q-bands or without it! Thanos is a high level trans as where w/Q-bands Annihilus is low or mid Herald, not a threat to Thanos maybe pain the a$$ that's it. Thanos will own him 10/10. classic annihilus has beaten thor without much trouble, so he was never a low or mid herald.

As of annihilation, he was shown in contol of the opposing force -negative zone's power cosmic - and employed high heralds as his servants. He effortlessly defeated quasar and nova, eating quasar in the process and almost killing nova. With the q-bands he survived g's blast that killed a watcher and swept 3/4 of the annihilation wave (later retconned to sweeping the galaxy clean or something like this). the cosmic rod has been treated as one of the most powerfull artifacts arround since the annihilation.

Edit: the latest version of annihilus was most certainly trans tier even before the qbands

you mean Thanos is Low/Mid Skyfather level

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you mean Thanos is Low/Mid Skyfather level I meant annihilus was most certainly trans even before the qbands. thanos is likely a low skyfather now.

That seems fair enough

Yo.

Originally posted by 753
classic annihilus has beaten thor without much trouble, so he was never a low or mid herald.

As of annihilation, he was shown in contol of the opposing force -negative zone's power cosmic - and employed high heralds as his servants. He effortlessly defeated quasar and nova, eating quasar in the process and almost killing nova. With the q-bands he survived g's blast that killed a watcher and swept 3/4 of the annihilation wave (later retconned to sweeping the galaxy clean or something like this). the cosmic rod has been treated as one of the most powerfull artifacts arround since the annihilation.

Edit: the latest version of annihilus was most certainly trans tier even before the qbands

tbch (to be completely honest) Anni's fight against those 2 couldve been won had Nova not lost control AND had Elvis remembered that he could turn the q-nrg output OFF...........neither of which happened.

and it was with the QBs *and* his CCR that allowed him to survive G's blast, not just the 1st by themselves, however the 2nd had either been dmg'd or something so that when he fought Nova that 2nd time he only had the bands, and he had no experience in using them beyond simply feeding off their output which was why they easily rejected him (which is a 1st, to be sure).

either way, Thanos is a wholly diff type of being, and he would take this fight.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



tbch (to be completely honest) Anni's fight against those 2 couldve been won had Nova not lost control AND had Elvis remembered that he could turn the q-nrg output OFF...........neither of which happened.I doubt it. worldmind didnt think they had a chance in hell, Nova's only sane and in control viable option was flight. annnie didnt just absorb the energy quasar unleashed, he actively sucked the qbands along with quasar in nearly devouring his soul against his will. So I doubt turning them off would work at all. story made it clear he was on a another level than they were.

I know it wasnt just the bands, I was merely pointing out that he needed them for that feat as he probably couldnt do it all on his own. The CCR wasnt damaged, Annie just burned out his own huge power reserves along with the qbands and Nova teleported in for the easy kill afterwards.
Never said he wouldn't. However, Annie needs to be recognized as a trans level being that walks through top tiers, which is what he is.

Originally posted by 753
classic annihilus has beaten thor without much trouble, so he was never a low or mid herald.

Annihilus was able to take down Thor with one blast once his power was reborn in the Negative Zone or something but that was with circumstances. Re-read the issue. I don't have time to string you along so long story short:

Thor was suffering from his weaknesses and even feared what would happen if someone would attack them at that point (Which Annihilus did).

Classic Thor would beat even this Annihilus in my opinion. The Quantum Bands don't add anything that Mjolnir can't counter -or at least Annihilus hasn't showing anything with them that Thor can't counter- and Thor's already held his own against an amped Annihilus (Once with the life force of dozens of Asgardians and he had duplicated a portion of Odin's power against Masterson) As a matter of fact, in both their fights, when it went came down to it physically Thor was winning. With Mjolnir being able to counter and all his energy projection -along with being superior in power to the Cosmic Control Rod- I see Thor beating him.

Thanos wins this fight by the way but it'd be interesting to see.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Annihilus was able to take down Thor with one blast once his power was reborn in the Negative Zone or something but that was with circumstances. Re-read the issue. I don't have time to string you along so long story short:

Thor was suffering from his weaknesses and even feared what would happen if someone would attack them at that point (Which Annihilus did).
I'll redownload it. how weakened was thor exactly? would you say that feat couldnt be reproduced unless thor was in that state?
no offense rage, but the only character you seem to think classic thor cant beat is odin.

the qbands by themselves, maybe, but they stack up on top of the CCR and the opposing force which IMO would be too much for Thor.

Originally posted by 753
I'll redownload it. how weakened was thor exactly? would you say that feat couldnt be reproduced unless thor was in that state?

Severely. Even after the weakness left, Thor is still severely depleted.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Later on Thor tanks a blast from Annihilus. Balder comments that Thor can barely stand albeit but Thor goes on to engage Annihilus and was even winning.

Masterson was stunned for like 3 panels at best after taking a blast to the face at point blank range from the Cosmic Control Rod. He then went on to destroy it with a throw.

Originally posted by 753
no offense rage, but the only character you seem to think classic thor cant beat is odin.

I've admitted Thor loses plenty of times. It just isn't as noticeable.

Originally posted by 753
the qbands by themselves, maybe, but they stack up on top of the CCR and the opposing force which IMO would be too much for Thor.

Disagreed. Annihilus would be better off getting a portion of the Odin Force like he did against Masterson then receiving the Quantum Bands. Especially since their vulnerable to mystical forces.

Mjolnir > Cosmic Control Rod

The Rod's fallen short while amped with internalized mystic energy. Adding the Quantum Bands won't tip the scales to Annihilus in my opinion. Not when Mjolnir can counter anything Annihilus could do. And if it comes down to close quarter combat, Thor would win as seen.

Thor is left weakened after the waves subside:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/AWeakness.jpg

Thor is left severely weakened:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/AWeakness2.jpg

Mjolnir > Cosmic Control Rod:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus2.jpg

Mjolnir > Cosmic Control Rod once again:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus12.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus13.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus14.jpg

Thor vs. Annihilus part 1:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus4.jpg

Thor vs. Annihilus part 2:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus5.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus9.jpg

Masterson Thor vs. Annihilus:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus11.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus12.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus13.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus14.jpg

Edit: The scene isn't as clear cut as I though. Thor could be referring to seizures instead of enemies in the scene before Annihilus attacks. Point still stands due to other evidence however.