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Has anyone DL'd the game now that its become free to play? If so, let us know here because a few of us are talking about the possibility of starting up a super group there.

Me and Wei Phoenix play

ive considered it

I am DLing it now

I'm playing it, though only as often as I can, which isn't as much as i'd like.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Me and Wei Phoenix play

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
ive considered it

Now it's free I think I might start playing, playing in a group of KMCers could be pretty cool.

Goddamn this is a slow DL.

Ya, it took me a while to download as well.

I'm thinking, if people are willing to share that information, that we should all post our handles (your characters name@your user name for Champions login) so that we can add each other there. I'll see if Digi can periodically update my first post to include everyone's handles so that we can reference it easier and hopefully we can get a big group going.

To get things started:

Jovian@Blairwind

michael@pr1983 (i think)

Kintaro@King_Nakoma. I'm down for making a character just for our KMC group. Fill out some roles and everything so we don't have a bunch of tanks or martial artists etc.

Myth-Tek@djalek or Agent Huxley@djalek

but like Wei I'm also down for making a new character to fill a role or anything

Katt@ShalimarFox

How long does it take to download?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Has anyone DL'd the game now that its become free to play? If so, let us know here because a few of us are talking about the possibility of starting up a super group there. What is this all about? sneer

Originally posted by Badabing
What is this all about? sneer

Something that you can make hulk in!

Originally posted by jalek moye
Something that you can make hulk in! shock

Go on...g_hulk

Originally posted by Black bolt z
How long does it take to download?

I've been doing it for about 8 hrs now and at 72%.

I use to play City of Heroes. Is this better?

truthfully I think they are about the same. They both have things over each other, and are also very similar. Which is to be expected since its made by part of the original CoH team.

I feel this is more actiony and has better costumization, where as CoH is more balanced and also due to it being out for 2-3 years longer has mroe content.

Originally posted by Badabing
shock

Go on...g_hulk Yeah I've ran across the following look alikes in game: Ken,Ryu,Hulk,Ironman(3 times)Batman(2 times)Hellboy, Hulk,Flash,Superman & Supergirl(both lastnight) and catwoman, Nightcrawler.

Are those copyrighted like in CoH? Like your toon being banned etc..

Not that I know of. I made a Jean Grey look alike also and it won't allow me to use the her last name or Phoenix. With that said I'm really not sure.I also deleted her.No fun playing a character has already been made

if its a perfect replica with the same name than yea. If it has some variation prolly not. The more basic people like Hulk they normally don't do anything about because its so basic of a creation. The name still isn't allowed though

The seems to have a lot more variety than CoH? I'm on their forums now just checking stuff out.

Variety as in more diverse powers and costumes?

yea

but like i said with CoH being years older they currently have more zones and stuff

I like a variety in more diverse powers and costumes better than levels. In CoH I liked farming the best.

For some of the powers currently u'd have to subscribe to use. at the moment atleast they are working on converting more types to the free model. (its currently both free and pay shared)

So far the free ones are: Telepathy, dual swords, a brick power set, fire, ice, dark magic, guns, archery. And you can unlock a sabertooth type powerset and a deadpool one for like 5 bucks or doing some shit in game i think

Travel powers are. Flight, super speed, acrobatics, hover disc, rocket boots, tunneling, jet pack, swinging, fire flight, ice slid, rock flight, teleport, super jump

i think thats it for travel powers but i may be missing one or two

Flight - Decent speed, good air control. Chargeable. Recommend for noobs.

Superspeed - Great speed and control, but stuck on ground. Chargeable. Some jump capability at R3 if you practice.

Teleportation - The Uber travel power. Good speed and control, flight, plus stealth and no ramp-up to full speed. The only pain is having to reactivate it every 7(?) seconds.

Swinging - Fastest travel power except for Superspeed and Ice Slide. Very fun. But control takes practice. Chargeable.

Jet Boots - Fastest "pure" flight power (see Ice Slide), good air control. Not chargeable.

Fire Flight - see Flight

Earth Flight - have not used

Superjump - Decent speed, average/poor control. Chargeable. Have to keep hitting spacebar to jump.

Acrobatics - Average speed and jump capability, stuck on ground (up to jump height). Great power though, especially with advantage that allows you to maintain high speed even when hit. Chargeable.

Ice Slide - Second fastest travel power (arguably fastest since Superspeed has to run around objects). Very poor control - takes lots of practice. Very fun though. Chargeable.

Tunneling - Slow speed, good control. Stealth. Stuck on (in) ground. Cannot jump at all over objects. Very slow activation/deactivation animation.

Rocket Jump - see Superjump

Hover Disk - Decent speed (think slightly faster than Flight), average to poor control. Chargeable.

Is what I have found.

ack! u edited

Changed my list.

I like some of those travel powers already.

ARGH! ****ing slow ass DL. 8 hrs or so for 76%

What class has the best pets?

People who are playing the game currently, what archetype are you using and what role are you trying to accomplish? And those who already have the game and are using Free Form characters what roles do you have?

I currently have an offensive Marksman (wanted the Specialist but I didn't want to pay extra) with flight.

I'm free form atm (which you know), and basically function as a tank. i'm only level 8, though, so not exactly the most effective one.

I dont know the answer to the pet question.


my characters are freeform. Myth-Tek is arcane sorcercy and gadgetry with hover disc for travel. I think his role is avenger

Agent Huxley is munitions and martial arts with gadgets for buffs. She's a guardian for role

Void (darkness archtype), a gadget archtype, and Devastor (new heavy melee weapons archtype) will be released febuary for those interested

Somebody better start explaining this to me and provide links. sneer

Not your forum, your mod powers are useless in here! Use Goggle, you Dinosaur you.

Originally posted by Badabing
Somebody better start explaining this to me and provide links. sneer

http://www.champions-online.com/videos

Originally posted by The Nuul
Not your forum, your mod powers are useless in here! Use Goggle, you Dinosaur you. You do not speak to Bada-Raptor that way. sneerOriginally posted by Wei Phoenix
http://www.champions-online.com/videos Thank you.

I had a Cable-like force character that I really liked. Then I converted him into a melee guy who was alright, but not as cool. I think he was more funny but not as effective in combat.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Flight - Decent speed, good air control. Chargeable. Recommend for noobs.

Superspeed - Great speed and control, but stuck on ground. Chargeable. Some jump capability at R3 if you practice.

Teleportation - The Uber travel power. Good speed and control, flight, plus stealth and no ramp-up to full speed. The only pain is having to reactivate it every 7(?) seconds.

Swinging - Fastest travel power except for Superspeed and Ice Slide. Very fun. But control takes practice. Chargeable.


Superjump - Decent speed, average/poor control. Chargeable. Have to keep hitting spacebar to jump.

Acrobatics - Average speed and jump capability, stuck on ground (up to jump height). Great power though, especially with advantage that allows you to maintain high speed even when hit. Chargeable.

Is what I have found.



The free ones are the ones I left in the quote. You can test them all out in the area where you pick them before you make your final choice.

In addition, if you want to later on undo your choices (any powers) you can undo the last one you did and then keep on going down the list in that order. Those will cost some (in game money, not real money).

I had been using flight for the past few days, but since I hadn't upgraded my stats when I leveled, I decided to first change my travel power to teleportation. I'm so glad I did. It's a little annoying to constantly have to activate it, but it is faster than flight and extremely useful in combat - to get around or escape - since it is the only travel power that is based on duration and not hampered by a slower combat speed.

In addition, you get two other traveling powers later in the game. If you become a Science focused character you can get Storm Rider (Flying with electrical aura), if you are Arms you get the (R.A.D. Roll? You roll on the ground), and if you are Mystic you get another flight power. You can do those when you reach the 310 rank in that focus.

And you can pick another travel power at level 35. So if you dont want just different variations of flight, you might want to customize your starting travel power to adjust for that. Just my two cents.

Bada, you planning on hulking out?

How long does it take not to suck in this game? uhuh

Originally posted by Blair Wind


The free ones are the ones I left in the quote. You can test them all out in the area where you pick them before you make your final choice.



Also the other travel powers can be unlocked with your account for less then 5 dollars each. For those of you that don't mind microtransactions that is

Is it possible to make a fire/kin like in CoH? Duel character builds.

Adding you guys. I cant find you guys when I search.

Whats your character's name and your username?

How many powers do you start off with?

Punisher is not allowed in this game.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Whats your character's name and your username?

Endrict@Endrict

I think.


lol

What system is this for?

Would have been nice if you answered the question. Think the answer is two, you could defintely make a Punisher type character anyway. Meh I only tend to go on about him because hes underated, I like alot of other characters y'know.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What system is this for?

pc.

Originally posted by Deadline
Would have been nice if you answered the question. Think the answer is two, you could defintely make a Punisher type character anyway. Meh I only tend to go on about him because hes underated, I like alot of other characters y'know.

you can make a punisher type, yes. if you're talking about how many varieties of powers you can choose from, there's a few dozen to start. if you mean actual physical powers, then two. but as you level up you get more. im at level 9 and i already have four offemsive powers and a travel power.

Pr, can you pleas add me?

Endrict@Endrict

next time i'm on, sure.

Originally posted by -Pr-



if you mean actual physical powers, then two.

and you can choose from two different power sets?

Jalek, you in game?

Is it possible to make a fire/kin toon? Or what class have good AOE?

This is like City of Heroes, but much better. The graphics, character creation and powers are far more diverse, though I still think they should have far more powers for a game like this.

I played for about a year, stopped around mid Dec 2010. Still have time on my account (i think). I have several characters varying in range, highest is a 35. Never hit 40, as I get board with a char at around lvl 30.

With the free-to-play you're limited in making your char, believe you pick from templates instead of doing whatever you like, still probably be fun though.

handle is *char name* @robtard.

If I'm on and you see me/need help/tips or info, feel free to ask. I'll try to get in later tonight, around 9:00ish PST.

I like CoH better in some areas but this is free!

I will be on, add me.


Endrict@Endrict

I thought so too at first, but once you get into it, this is better, they took what was great from COH and used that/improved on that.

It does suffer from what many MMOs suffer from, repetition. Same shit, just at a higher level.

Be happy to walk you through some of the common newbie mistakes, this game can be a lot harder if you don't know what you're doing.

I'm on right now and will be at 9.

I'll be on in about 15-20, i'll find u. Have a large patch to D/L since I've not been on.

I want a good class with pets and or AOE attacks. Any suggestions?

Originally posted by The Nuul
I want a good class with pets and or AOE attacks. Any suggestions?

Since the choices are made for you, I'm not exactly sure.

I could build you a murderous toon if you had a full account and were lvl 26 or so.

Ive heard that, "Gold Members" (the paying customers), Gadgeteering is the pet class and it has good AOE attack upgrades

Theres only brute, scrapper, wizard, soldier, ninja, fire, ice and mental.

Yeah this is one thing that is annoying. I cant custom and limited picks.

What if I buy one month and good stuff then go back to silver. would that work?

I am also stuck to only two character slots.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Ive heard that, "Gold Members" (the paying customers), Gadgeteering is the pet class and it has good AOE attack upgrades Yes and no.

With Gold you can pick any powers you like, it's common to see "pet hoarders" who have the magical, techno and elemental/nature pets all together. Looks lame, but 'pet hoarding' was popular about 2 months ago.

I have a mostly Gadget toon (looks like a Borg); it's a fun class. I tend to make my chars off one class and only pick out-of-class powers sparingly.

Is it possible to get pets without gold and these classes?

brute, scrapper, wizard, soldier, ninja, fire, ice and mental.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Theres only brute, scrapper, wizard, soldier, ninja, fire, ice and mental.

Yeah this is one thing that is annoying. I cant custom and limited picks.

What if I buy one month and good stuff then go back to silver. would that work?

I am also stuck to only two character slots.

Munitons "soldier" is fairly fun, great for PVE, not so good for PVP. I wouldn't PVP gold members, you're seriously gimped compared to them in choice powers. You'll get perma-held and then 3rd tier power attacked to death over and over and over.

Brute gives you Defiance as your your passive defense, it's arguably the best tanking defense in the game.

I have an almost pure Ice guy, it's a fun class, but not recommended for a novice

Ninja I assume is either single-blade or duo-blades. Single blade is hard for a novice, dual-blades is lethal with a right build. I have a lvl 31-32 duo-blades, can crit a fool for 5.5K in damage.

I read up, looks like F2P can buy Gold-characters, which would allow you to custom any which way you wish.

Looks like pets isn't on the free menu. Personlly, I don't care for pets, they're useful adn fun at first, but them get boring. It's more of a novelty for me, if they fit my concept.

BTW, at 81%, should be done soon.

The gadget archetype will come to silver players next month for a one time payment of like 8 bucks i think.

For AoE I suggest grimoire (spelling?) archtype

Also once u hit a certain level you will get an additional character slot

and you can buy more in the typical micro transaction process

Rob or Jal, is it possible to get a fire/kin like in CoH?

silver memebrs can't mix powersets. Only cual classes are those that are fro m mixed archetypes


what does kin mean?

so far the only mixed archetype is the specialist who is muniations and double swords mixed

Kinetic, which was the best class in COH, I ruled there. No Kin in Champs though

Rob, you hear we get a heavy melee weapons framework soon? (assuming u care)

Kinetics

Originally posted by Robtard
Kinetic, which was the best class in COH, I ruled there. No Kin in Champs though

If I buy gold then down grade back to silver, do I still keep my stuff?

You're stuff is there but you won't be able to play characters with gold sets unless you convert them to silver.

As far as I know custome framework will never be allowed for silver players. Just new Archetypes(classses) every month or so. Until until its a sizeble and diverse selection.

Like I figured.

So you have to buy stuff in game? Is the stuff expensive?

You don't have to buy anything, it just gives you more options and stuff

Hurry the **** up Rob.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Hurry the **** up Rob.

Im on, can't find u with the search.

Endrict@Endrict

Can u get into KMC chat?

My new character name is siv.

Im in ren center 42

o idea how the new chat works and joining a char chan someone else made, let me look

omw to 42

Just added you.

I just added everyone to the KMC channel I made. And by everyone, thats everyone who put their info in this thread.

So far:

Jovian@Blairwind
Michael@pr1983
Siv@Endrict
Kintaro@King_Nakoma
Myth-Tek@djalek or Agent Huxley@djalek
Katt@ShalimarFox
???@Robtard

EDIT: I also made it public. So if you want to join the channel just go to channel settings next to your chat box and search KMC.

Is the game any good?

I am done for tonight, see y'all tomorrow in game.

20kb/s? wtf

Why is the dl so sloooooooooooooow

@?

What the shit happened to my post i'm sure i asked how big is the download.

Originally posted by inimalist
@?

generally yes.

Originally posted by Kazenji
What the shit happened to my post i'm sure i asked how big is the download.

its several gb; i dont know the exact figure.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
20kb/s? wtf

Why is the dl so sloooooooooooooow

try downloading through steam instead.

technarcane@inimalist

It says you are an unknown user.

technarcane@MH2TY

So you can only play as pre-created classes for free? Can you unlock more abilities in these classes or just increase your stats?

As you level up you get new abilities and stuff if that is what you mean.

Yeah, thanks just started the download this is going to take a while.

When anyone gets the "Terror Halt" mission in Canada where you have to kill 150 guys, let me know, and we can team up and get it done quicker. Would chop the time taken in half methinks...

Captain Outerspace@srank

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain Outerspace@srank

Does he do space martial arts?

Originally posted by -Pr-
When anyone gets the "Terror Halt" mission in Canada where you have to kill 150 guys, let me know, and we can team up and get it done quicker. Would chop the time taken in half methinks...

i did it, thanks to blair. yay me.

I need help with Purple reign

I cant kill the boss by myself


Horus@PrimarchHorus

Really not liking that they changed all the passives to ranking up with your Super Stats and not particular stats.

Pretty much going to have most players picking Dex/Con, Dex/End and Dex/Ego.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When anyone gets the "Terror Halt" mission in Canada where you have to kill 150 guys, let me know, and we can team up and get it done quicker. Would chop the time taken in half methinks...

I found Canada a strange quest hub, I went there when I'd seemingly exhausted all the hubs in Millennium City. I got there and did most of the first quests you get just by wondering and made it to level 9 and then the quest level's suddenly jumped to 12 and 13s and I had to go back to Millennium City (MC)...

Originally posted by Robtard
Really not liking that they changed all the passives to ranking up with your Super Stats and not particular stats.

Pretty much going to have most players picking Dex/Con, Dex/End and Dex/Ego.

I've chosen The Inferno which is Recovery/Endurance. I love the archetype, he's a heavy hitter but I have to rely on my Glacier buddy to tank a little to pull agro - I don't so so well against groups, though I'm trying to find items to boost my constitution.

Detritus@TheAlmightyKfish

Originally posted by CadoAngelus


I've chosen The Inferno which is Recovery/Endurance. I love the archetype, he's a heavy hitter but I have to rely on my Glacier buddy to tank a little to pull agro - I don't so so well against groups, though I'm trying to find items to boost my constitution.

Comment was towards the Gold members who can custom pick their toons.

Rec/End is a decent SS combo, gives you plenty of energy to open the fight and allows you to use your maintained powers longer(usually). My almost pure Ice build "Dr. Glacial" is Dex/End, with a bit slotted to Ego and Con. Works well for me, he's mostly a crowd controller/AOE guy. Slowing down and/or holding enemies while doing lots of little repetitive dmg.

There are items that give you life-points whenever you kill someone, works well for the high damage/low life toons like you. They usually slot in the secondary offensive slots, iirc.

If you see me, friend me, I'll give you a few Globals so you can go in the Auction House and pick a couple items that will help you.

Various toons that are '@robtard.' Not on that much though, afraid I'm pretty much bored of the game.

Originally posted by Robtard
There are items that give you life-points whenever you kill someone, works well for the high damage/low life toons like you. They usually slot in the secondary offensive slots, iirc.

my int/pre "grimoire" archetype is pretty awesome /shrug

but ya, an item like that sounds awesome. I can drop huge groups of mobs at or above my level, but if the fight isn't over in 20-25 seconds, I lose, pretty much guaranteed. healing from kills? yes please!

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
I found Canada a strange quest hub, I went there when I'd seemingly exhausted all the hubs in Millennium City. I got there and did most of the first quests you get just by wondering and made it to level 9 and then the quest level's suddenly jumped to 12 and 13s and I had to go back to Millennium City (MC)...



I've chosen The Inferno which is Recovery/Endurance. I love the archetype, he's a heavy hitter but I have to rely on my Glacier buddy to tank a little to pull agro - I don't so so well against groups, though I'm trying to find items to boost my constitution.

yeah, i know what you mean. im at the upper end of level 12, so im starting to do better, take on mobs and survive too, which is nice. my next buy is an aoe attack for sure, though.

So who will help me do purple reign?

I havent been playing much, I am not as hooked as I was with CoH which I dont even play anymore.

Jal, can you sidekick me in game?

Originally posted by Robtard
Comment was towards the Gold members who can custom pick their toons.

Rec/End is a decent SS combo, gives you plenty of energy to open the fight and allows you to use your maintained powers longer(usually). My almost pure Ice build "Dr. Glacial" is Dex/End, with a bit slotted to Ego and Con. Works well for me, he's mostly a crowd controller/AOE guy. Slowing down and/or holding enemies while doing lots of little repetitive dmg.

There are items that give you life-points whenever you kill someone, works well for the high damage/low life toons like you. They usually slot in the secondary offensive slots, iirc.

If you see me, friend me, I'll give you a few Globals so you can go in the Auction House and pick a couple items that will help you.

Various toons that are '@robtard.' Not on that much though, afraid I'm pretty much bored of the game.

I've got a DEX/INT super stat character and I sacrifice some recovery for adding to CON (Quarry: Fair Game gives me health for every kill scaled with CON) and EGO.

I added you a few days ago, I'd appreciate those Globals as well.

Originally posted by inimalist
my int/pre "grimoire" archetype is pretty awesome /shrug

but ya, an item like that sounds awesome. I can drop huge groups of mobs at or above my level, but if the fight isn't over in 20-25 seconds, I lose, pretty much guaranteed. healing from kills? yes please!

I've played a mixed magic toon, which is what the Grimoire basically is.

Sucks they don't give you the Arcane Construct, that's a decent pet and can tank for you.

Int is great for reducing power cost and the lowering the recharge time on your sigils, which is a huge bonus as those spells kick ass. Presence only really boost your healing powers in your build.

There are also Primary Defense items starting at high 20s/low 30's that give you a +30% (or so) chance to dodge, also great for damage mitagation for a soft toon like yourself. Though imo, a soft toon's best chance of surviving is having a very high offense. Kill them before they can kill you.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I've got a DEX/INT super stat character and I sacrifice some recovery for adding to CON (Quarry: Fair Game gives me health for every kill scaled with CON) and EGO.

I added you a few days ago, I'd appreciate those Globals as well.

Who the **** are you!?

J/K; no problem if I'm on.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've played a mixed magic toon, which is what the Grimoire basically is.

Sucks they don't give you the Arcane Construct, that's a decent pet and can tank for you.

Int is great for reducing power cost and the lowering the recharge time on your sigils, which is a huge bonus as those spells kick ass. Presence only really boost your healing powers in your build.

There are also Primary Defense items starting at high 20s/low 30's that give you a +30% (or so) chance to dodge, also great for damage mitagation for a soft toon like yourself. Though imo, a soft toon's best chance of surviving is having a very high offense. Kill them before they can kill you.

it tells me it is giving me some damage boost? EDIT: ah, now I remember why I like pre. I TP into groups of mobs, hit my sigils, and my threat is so low, nobody attacks me. I can heal my sigils while enemies attack. Same as pet tanks, huge damage, they just don't have the HP. Against groups of 3-4 mobs it is super effective. Really only have problems with ranged bosses who con yellow or higher (one of the bosses in Canada gave me huge problems last night)

If I'd had the choice, I would have gone INT/REC, to get my energy equilibrium up. as it stands, I'm barely over half.

I'm thinking I'm going to get to 40 for the retcon, then either get a lifetime membership if it looks like the game wont tank in 2 years, or just go subscription. This "microtransaction" stuff is too tempting, and at 15 USD for 500 points, I'd spend way more than the subscription cost per month.

BTW, just got 25 and my first Nemesis. I'll post pics when I get home, its pretty funny boy am i clever

Originally posted by inimalist
it tells me it is giving me some damage boost? EDIT: ah, now I remember why I like pre. I TP into groups of mobs, hit my sigils, and my threat is so low, nobody attacks me. I can heal my sigils while enemies attack. Same as pet tanks, huge damage, they just don't have the HP. Against groups of 3-4 mobs it is super effective. Really only have problems with ranged bosses who con yellow or higher (one of the bosses in Canada gave me huge problems last night)

If I'd had the choice, I would have gone INT/REC, to get my energy equilibrium up. as it stands, I'm barely over half.

I'm thinking I'm going to get to 40 for the retcon, then either get a lifetime membership if it looks like the game wont tank in 2 years, or just go subscription. This "microtransaction" stuff is too tempting, and at 15 USD for 500 points, I'd spend way more than the subscription cost per month.

BTW, just got 25 and my first Nemesis. I'll post pics when I get home, its pretty funny boy am i clever

Your damage bonuses scale off your Super-Stats no matter what. You could be INT/REC and a melee toon, and you'd still get a damage bonus based on your Super-Stats. Though I think having high STR would also net you further damage to any of your melee attacks in the type of build.

So for you:

INT gives you power-cost discount and recharge reduction + damage bonus

PRE boost your healing + damage bonus.

Pets used to scale off INT and PRE for damage output and health points, but they changed so they scale off your super-stats in the large update a few months ago. They might have gone back though or made it a mixture, they scale off your SS and can get extra bonuses from high INT and PRE. I'd have to look into it.

Too bad you're not allowed DEX, with your passive-defense (the aura of primal something or other) bonus to stats, you'd be one critical hitting mofo.

Gratz on the 25, making Nems is fun.

I'll try to be on at around 6:00 PST, if you're on, look for me. Be fun to run a couple of missions. I have a lvl 17 I could Sidekick up or a couple high 20's I could Sidekick down.

@ Blair: I'm ready for that mission you were telling me about; the one we have to team up for.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your damage bonuses scale off your Super-Stats no matter what. You could be INT/REC and a melee toon, and you'd still get a damage bonus based on your Super-Stats. Though I think having high STR would also net you further damage to any of your melee attacks in the type of build.

So for you:

INT gives you power-cost discount and recharge reduction + damage bonus

PRE boost your healing + damage bonus.

Pets used to scale off INT and PRE for damage output and health points, but they changed so they scale off your super-stats in the large update a few months ago. They might have gone back though or made it a mixture, they scale off your SS and can get extra bonuses from high INT and PRE. I'd have to look into it.

very interesting...

the negative threat boost from pre is nice though, I must say

Originally posted by Robtard
Too bad you're not allowed DEX, with your passive-defense (the aura of primal something or other) bonus to stats, you'd be one critical hitting mofo.

ya, I get a passive i think 43 point boost to all my stats... its pretty bad ass.

I do get critical hits a lot though. I guess I can't compare it to anything as this is my first toon, but it seems frequent

Originally posted by Robtard
Gratz on the 25, making Nems is fun.

yup. beware, Captain Jingoist! (guess who I modeled him off of, lol)

Originally posted by Robtard
I'll try to be on at around 6:00 PST, if you're on, look for me. Be fun to run a couple of missions. I have a lvl 17 I could Sidekick up or a couple high 20's I could Sidekick down.

how would I find you in game?

Originally posted by inimalist
very interesting...

the negative threat boost from pre is nice though, I must say



ya, I get a passive i think 43 point boost to all my stats... its pretty bad ass.

I do get critical hits a lot though. I guess I can't compare it to anything as this is my first toon, but it seems frequent



yup. beware, Captain Jingoist! (guess who I modeled him off of, lol)



how would I find you in game?

I'm a bit confused how the threat works with PRE, I know if you heal and have high PRE, you become a massive target, as I've had a support/healer toon before. But it is supposed to lower threat in certain builds, just not sure how it works exactly.

Also forgot, INT helps you see hidden foes, which can be helpful as getting jumped can lead to a quick death. If you have a high INT and an item or two that boost your perception, you're able to see teleporters should you be in a PVP fight. Can be useful and funny when you tag them as they try and buy time by teleporting.

You probably have a dex at around 60-70 at your lvl with that boost, unless you have an item that specifically grants you high DEX. IIRC, 70ish dex is around 15% crit change.

I'm @robtard. Not sure which toon I'll be on. Probably my lvl 29 Ice. "Dr. Glacial". if you hit the social button, there's a search.

What's your 'name@name'?

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm a bit confused how the threat works with PRE, I know if you heal and have high PRE, you become a massive target, as I've had a support/healer toon before. But it is supposed to lower threat in certain builds, just not sure how it works exactly.

for characters in the "support" role, it increases threat, for anyone else, it decreases it. I'm not sure if it amps my threat to heal, all I know is that my sigils can normally hold aggro against a group of mobs, even if I'm attacking them (sometimes, I suppose)

Originally posted by Robtard
Also forgot, INT helps you see hidden foes, which can be helpful as getting jumped can lead to a quick death. If you have a high INT and an item or two that boost your perception, you're able to see teleporters should you be in a PVP fight. Can be useful and funny when you tag them as they try and buy time by teleporting.

argh! that sounds wicked, but will totally annhilate me!

Originally posted by Robtard
You probably have a dex at around 60-70 at your lvl with that boost, unless you have an item that specifically grants you high DEX. IIRC, 70ish dex is around 15% crit change.

I'm @robtard. Not sure which toon I'll be on. Probably my lvl 29 Ice. "Dr. Glacial". if you hit the social button, there's a search.

What's your 'name@name'?

technarcane@MH2TY

are you on the KMC chat channel?

Ah, that makes sense. As my healer could somehow hold aggro better than the DPS beast I was teaming in. In Zombie Apocalypse (a PVP/PVE instance and damn fun), that toon was a constant target.

I'll see about sending you a friend invite. Forget how when you can;t actually see the person, but I'll figure it out.

Not sure how to get on the KMC chat channel, the chat settings seemed to have changed a bit since this last update. I'll try to get on it. Is it called "KMC chat"?

No. I did invite you to it though, its just "KMC". Go to the chat settings area (little bubble on the right side of the chat box). Then just switch to "KMC" on your chat selections on the left.

Aight.

So can you only play archetypes when playing for free? How restricted is it?

Originally posted by Deadline
So can you only play archetypes when playing for free? How restricted is it?


Less selection of powers. You pick an archtype and the powers are already picked for you for the most part as you level.

The paying members get to select any powers they wish as they level.

Originally posted by Robtard
Less selection of powers. You pick an archtype and the powers are already picked for you for the most part as you level.

The paying members get to select any powers they wish as they level.

Ok can you do something like add tech to a magic based character or add psi to brick based character?

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok can you do something like add tech to a magic based character or add psi to brick based character?

I use the magic-user archetype, but the costumes I picked are all robotic.

http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/The_Grimoire

You could make a controller/support psi character with "The Mind" archetype

http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/The_Mind

and then make the character look like a brick, but without paying you wouldn't have the option to give them tank like abilities. or, you could do it the other way I guess, use "psi" looking costume pieces on a brick archetype

http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/The_Behemoth

I keep hearing that the Mind archetype is underpowered (solo) until you hit level 32 and then you basically become a god. hmm

Anyway, Deadline, you can buy additional things/powers. Its free to play (as in no monthly subscription) but you can pay for powerups in terms of additional content, powers (pets, sidekicks, travel powers, etc), and the list goes on. So I'm guessing you could add some tech or magic to any character you wanted long as you pony up some cash.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I keep hearing that the Mind archetype is underpowered (solo) until you hit level 32 and then you basically become a god. hmm


The powers and defenses they give you make you not a very hard hitter and pretty soft, so it would be harder to solo. That build is more of a hero-support build.

LVL 32 gives you Ego Storm, which does area-of-effect damage while simultaneously holding your enemies, it's a great power; especially once you rank it. To add to it, Telepathic Reverberation which that build gets at 22 means your energy pool is refreshed for each target you hold. So you can spam and hold/kill mobs over and over. The higher ranked enemies can still give you trouble though, as they're harder to hold.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I keep hearing that the Mind archetype is underpowered (solo) until you hit level 32 and then you basically become a god. hmm

Anyway, Deadline, you can buy additional things/powers. Its free to play (as in no monthly subscription) but you can pay for powerups in terms of additional content, powers (pets, sidekicks, travel powers, etc), and the list goes on. So I'm guessing you could add some tech or magic to any character you wanted long as you pony up some cash. I wouldn't say that...I've been able to solo everything with my Telepath/Telekinetic and she's still like lvl 13

Finally tried this after d/ling it about a week ago. Seems alright so far, having not played MMOs before.

Originally posted by Venomancer
I wouldn't say that...I've been able to solo everything with my Telepath/Telekinetic and she's still like lvl 13

I'm now at 38 with my Grimoire, and the only stuff I haven't soloed are the 5 man missions

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Finally tried this after d/ling it about a week ago. Seems alright so far, having not played MMOs before.

WTF, you live? Haven't seen you in years.

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF, you live? Haven't seen you in years. Lol, I've been back for a while, just haven't been in the GDF since. I'm mainly just in the off-topic in the comic vs forum, and lurk everywhere else.

Good to see you back.

Can someone tell me if Recovery is more important than it seems to me? What I'm getting from it is that I'm able to start off with a higher base of MP, but can't I get my MP bar back to full if I just do a few energy building attacks? Just wondering if I'm missing something about fully understanding Recovery. If it helps then I'm talking about using it as innate characteristics and super stats for mages and supernatural infernal characters that I'm making.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Can someone tell me if Recovery is more important than it seems to me? What I'm getting from it is that I'm able to start off with a higher base of MP, but can't I get my MP bar back to full if I just do a few energy building attacks? Just wondering if I'm missing something about fully understanding Recovery. If it helps then I'm talking about using it as innate characteristics and super stats for mages and supernatural infernal characters that I'm making.

for a character like mine, the more spells I can cast prior to needing to recharg energy is fairly important. Huge increase in dps, at least for me, and I have low hp/defense, so I need to maximize dmg output.

I don't know if I'd say you should make it a primary though

Thanks, I want to have a better Recovery than the base 10, but I was just wondering if there were any good reasons why I should make it my super stats or innate characteristics. I'm sure I can get a few items that increase my Recovery so I may just go with Con and End. I'm a gold member so I was thinking of mixing the Infernal with some Ebon sorcery to increase the damage output. I'm not sure yet, still a noob so I'm open to any suggestions you or anyone else may have.

Can someone help me name this character? Supernatural Infernal powers (Toxic Damage) a creature/guardian of swamps and other natural habitats, currently corrupted by human pollution but originally a good and just being.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/885/pollution3.jpg

Arbiter of Gaia sounds cool to me. Especially if he's like a champion/guardian type and if he's corrupted somewhat he can be kinda relentless in his judging so to speak. Ignore me if I sound stupid, though lol

Thanks and no you don't sound stupid or anything.

If it helps then he was mainly inspired by this.

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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Can someone help me name this character? Supernatural Infernal powers (Toxic Damage) a creature/guardian of swamps and other natural habitats, currently corrupted by human pollution but originally a good and just being.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/885/pollution3.jpg

Woah, nice. Looks like one of the Old Ones. How'd you get an image shot of this? I just created my Monkey King (Journey to the West) character so I want to post it on here. Also, for some reason my computer shuts down at midplay. Weird.

Anyone know how I would achieve Earth flight? Also regarding weapons, can we make them? My Monkey needs his staff and nimbus cloud to ummm...Journey to the West.

MonkeyKing@whitewitchking

For that screenshot. When you finish making a costume it gets saved in the screenshot folder of Champions folder within the program files.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Woah, nice. Looks like one of the Old Ones. How'd you get an image shot of this? I just created my Monkey King (Journey to the West) character so I want to post it on here. Also, for some reason my computer shuts down at midplay. Weird.

Anyone know how I would achieve Earth flight? Also regarding weapons, can we make them? My Monkey needs his staff and nimbus cloud to ummm...Journey to the West.

MonkeyKing@whitewitchking

You can either buy earth flight or go gold. With the earth flight you can actually make a cloud to fly on. Earth flight takes the properties of whatever you're standing on. Stand on ice and your platform will be made of ice. Stand on the common ground for the generic earth look. Use the flight while standing in water or a pool of water then you can make it into a cloud. Kind of hard to do though.