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Is this meant to be a horror movie series? It's not even scary, or even good for that matter. OK the first one had kind of a plot but the rest are just trying to outgross the previous. Now what, seven movies and a game? Even as such, the violence didn't even make me flinch. Harry Potter was scarier than this garbage (that was not a joke). What happened to the days when horror movies where about SCARING you, not about mindless gore.

Torture porn is not supposed to scare you. Even though it made tons of money I cant stand the series.

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movies are entertaining.

imo, did its job.

They should have hired more recognisable actors to spearhead this series' odd plot developments.

Probably could have posted in a Saw thread rather than create your own.
Originally posted by the ninjak
They should have hired more recognisable actors to spearhead this series' odd plot developments.
The first movie used some recognizable actors (Danny Glover, Cary Elwes, Monica Potter) to get some attention. That's the reason a lot of Hollywood actors get work, not because they're good actors, but because people see their movies.

I like how the rest of the series didn't use many recognizable actors. We got Donnie Wahlberg and Sean Patrick Flannery, not A-list but something. The series just drove on based on its own merit.

I've always wanted to one day sit down and absorb the "actual" plot of the entire run.
Maybe it's actually good and it wasn't released in the right way to harness a devoted audience.
I work on and off as a projectionist and was able to view to a degree all of them and there always seemed to be a heavy level of manipulation involved.
I also like the idea of how if you survive the tests you have a new awareness and have to aid Jigsaw in his vision.
Very parasitic unless you die from th virus you become the virus.
Is Jigsaw an actual necessary push in the right direction of evolution.
Cool villain/hero.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I've always wanted to one day sit down and absorb the "actual" plot of the entire run.
Maybe it's actually good and it wasn't released in the right way to harness a devoted audience.
I work on and off as a projectionist and was able to view to a degree all of them and there always seemed to be a heavy level of manipulation involved.
I also like the idea of how if you survive the tests you have a new awareness and have to aid Jigsaw in his vision.
Very parasitic unless you die from th virus you become the virus.
Is Jigsaw an actual necessary push in the right direction of evolution.
Cool villain/hero.
It's cool how it has created such a large myth over the last seven years, as large as it takes other series decades to create (granted, Saw came out with a new one every year).

I think it devoted a huge devoted audience. The movies totaled about $415 million in the U.S. and $851 million worldwide. http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/Saw.php

Yes, each one has its manipulation. They all have a twist at the end that points out some details that were either unmentioned, ignored, or were a play on words.

You don't have to aid Jigsaw in his vision. It's just revealed throughout the series that some of his survivors end up helping him because they see how the traps helped them and they believe in the cause.

You see in some of the movies that the games don't always help. The survivors have to accept what Jigsaw meant to teach them. It's like Jigsaw's the teacher and the survivor is the student. The teacher can teach, but if the student is focusing on something else, no learning will take place.

Saw 1 is a great movie. I honestly cant believe anyone who says they saw that twist coming.

Saw 2 is pretty good too.

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I really enjoyed the first Saw movie. I thought it was well done and kept you on the edge of your seat. After the first movie it just became "lets get gory and see what we can do".

Originally posted by khazra
Saw 1 is a great movie. I honestly cant believe anyone who says they saw that twist coming.

Saw 2 is pretty good too.

Oh and I agree about the twist. I think anyone who says they saw that company (without have been told) is a liar.

I think Jigsaw is a fascinating character. His story is why I watch the movies....Oh, and I love the voice that announces the games, with "Billy".

It's a sub par franchise which has run it's course.

The problem with great originals is they're often followed by crappy sequels.

I think 'torture porn' is more about hurting your feelings in some other way other than trying to scare you.

Saw is shit. Just torture thats it no plot no nothing. Halloween and Nightmare/Friday the 13th are far far better.

Originally posted by movie1
The problem with great originals is they're often followed by crappy sequels.

I think 'torture porn' is more about hurting your feelings in some other way other than trying to scare you. This is generally true in most drawn out franchises.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Saw is shit. Just torture thats it no plot no nothing. Halloween and Nightmare/Friday the 13th are far far better.

Interesting you say that since Friday the 13th was exactly what you described Saw to be: mindless torture porn (in this case a body count flick) and a story line that isn't shy enough to repeat itself sequel after sequel, pretty much like Halloween (except part III) and A nightmare on Elm Street (it did have a novel concept, I'll give you that.) Plus, Saw had more character development than your typical slasher movie.

It did start to get ludicrous by the 4th movie, though. I mean with Jigsaw gone and his successor taking over, it seemed that the makers of the movie wanted to keep the series alive (much like older films).

So yeah, Saw began to rot after the 4th (with a little improvement on the 6th entry), but I still prefer this series over the older, hack-and-slash flicks.