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standard Superman. some classic avengers are called in to stop him:

hulk (classic hulk-smash)
ironman (current)
vision
wonderman
cap
cap marvel (monica)
quicksilver

vs

Superman

no BFR. can they take down the Kryptonian?

Hulk solos

hulk- speed is the problem and he gets outranged hard. A heat vision lobotomy will suffice
ironman- no... he gets beaten into dust
vision- intangibility is a problem but Supes will eventually get to him.
wonderman- l'm not to sure how Supes would handle him. He is for all intents and purposes an energy construct.
Cap- sorry he gets smacked like a pimp hand from thanos
Captain marvel- good but not good enough IMO. strength and speed will KO him
quicksilver-non issue he's still too slow for superman.

Superman.

Superman edges them out

What mind set is Kal in, killed, or just defeat them.

Just defeat them
hulk (classic hulk-smash)-Gives Kal trouble, but he goes down
ironman (current)-Rip the suit of him
vision-With vision abilities, he annoys Kal for a few minute
wonderman-Kal brings him down hard
cap-Get his shit stuff
cap marvel (monica)-Knows nothing of her, but can she seriously even lay a finger on Kal.
quicksilver-Kal stops him cold in his tracks.

Now to kill them mind set.
He rapes them, and he rapes them hard.

Superman.

Clark

Originally posted by Uriel005
hulk- speed is the problem and he gets outranged hard. A heat vision lobotomy will suffice
ironman- no... he gets beaten into dust
vision- intangibility is a problem but Supes will eventually get to him.
wonderman- l'm not to sure how Supes would handle him. He is for all intents and purposes an energy construct.
Cap- sorry he gets smacked like a pimp hand from thanos
Captain marvel- good but not good enough IMO. strength and speed will KO him
quicksilver-non issue he's still too slow for superman.



Captain Marvel is Monica Rambeu. She's the black chic who can go intangible and move at light speeds.

Since Thor is not on that list superman wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk solos

You know this is classic right?

If they combine their powers well at the start, they're going to get some good hits in, but the moment Superman decides to stop screwing around, they're all toast. He's too strong, too durable and too fast.

He wins.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Since Thor is not on that list superman wins.



Did you ever think of setting up a dinner date with Rage?
You guys would make a great couple.

Actually Monica has a chance of taking him down by herself if she can get the right energy signature to drain him. He really cant do much to her either.

Besides Monica, if this is a bloodlusted Clark, the rest dont stand much chance (unless Vision stays intangible for the entire fight and Clark doesnt take Hulk quick).

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
standard Superman. some classic avengers are called in to stop him:

hulk (classic hulk-smash)
ironman (current)
vision
wonderman
cap
cap marvel (monica)
quicksilver

vs

Superman

no BFR. can they take down the Kryptonian?

Absolutely. Hulk alone is a good fight. Supes could quickly incapacitate cap for instance but otherwise the rest are going to put the avengers over the edge. Comfortably so. Though I'm not a fan of phasing attacks Vision could hurt him, Kal isn't that far above Stark and WM that they can't effect him and Hulk will occupy most of his attention.

Monica solo's...amazing the lack of respect she gets in comicdom

If no CIS then there's nothing Supes can do to her and he has no defense except faster than light escape-lol

Alter ego Monica Rambeau
Team affiliations Nextwave
Avengers
New Orleans Harbor Patrol
Notable aliases Captain Marvel, Photon, Pulsar, Daystar, Sceptre, Lady of Light, Monica Marvel, Sun Goddess
Abilities Can convert body into any form of energy within the electromagnetic spectrum.
Energy generation, absorption & manipulation.
Travel at the speeds up to the speed of light while in her energy form.
Able to travel in energy form through the vacuum of space.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Did you ever think of setting up a dinner date with Rage?
You guys would make a great couple. no2

No I am Thor's and Thor's only.

Monica is their only chance in hell. Superman stomps.

Nice job of making it so Superman wins

Originally posted by Mrblonde
Nice job of making it so Superman wins


this wasnt intended for Supes to win. I just copied and pasted a similar post, but with a Thor Vs Avengers setting instead.

Pffft.


Wonderman does this by himself.

how does he beat Monica?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
this wasnt intended for Supes to win. I just copied and pasted a similar post, but with a Thor Vs Avengers setting instead.

;
And Thor loses but Superman wins. Those are facts of life

Originally posted by Warlord
how does he beat Monica?


Counters her energy form by vibrating in the same frecuency as her. Admittedly it takes a while for him to do so, but it's within his abilities.

Superman

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
standard Superman. some classic avengers are called in to stop him:

hulk (classic hulk-smash)
ironman (current)
vision
wonderman
cap
cap marvel (monica)
quicksilver

vs

Superman

no BFR. can they take down the Kryptonian? Realistically against this lineup a bloodlusted Superman kills them all with maybe Hulk or vision surviving the battle.

Originally posted by Bentley
Counters her energy form by vibrating in the same frecuency as her. Admittedly it takes a while for him to do so, but it's within his abilities.

what are the others doing while hes doing this? Who said Superman was bloodlusted?

Monica is not much of an threat to Supes, she aint SS, Quasar or even Atom. Hulk is the only slight problem and the rest are non factors.

Im not so sure current Iron Man has some impressive feats against Apoc and Ultron.

Of course your not sure, you're a Marvel fanboy.

A low herald at best is not beating or putting up a fight against Supes for very long. Hell, Tony is barely even a threat in a fight against the Hulk.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Of course your not sure, you're a Marvel fanboy.


Absolutely feats against Apocalypse and Ultron aren't impressive.

Originally posted by The Nuul

A low herald at best is not beating or putting up a fight against Supes for very long. Hell, Tony is barely even a threat in a fight against the Hulk.

My point was combined with the team he could be a useful asset. facepalm

Originally posted by Deadline
what are the others doing while hes doing this? Who said Superman was bloodlusted?


What does bloodlust have to do with countering frecuencies? He could just ko her that way (maybe this comment was meant for the guy above me, meh).

Kal can take on all of them before dealing with Monica, or fly up and target the Avengers with heat vision until Monica comes close and then vibrate/counter ftw.

The numbers favour the Avengers, even if one on one Superman could likely take them. Combination of Hulk, Vision and Wonder Man will be too much for him.

Originally posted by Bentley
What does bloodlust have to do with countering frecuencies? He could just ko her that way (maybe this comment was meant for the guy above me, meh).

Nothing.

Originally posted by Bentley

Kal can take on all of them before dealing with Monica, or fly up and target the Avengers with heat vision until Monica comes close and then vibrate/counter ftw.

That might take awhile



Originally posted by The Nuul
Of course your not sure, you're a Marvel fanboy.

A low herald at best is not beating or putting up a fight against Supes for very long. Hell, Tony is barely even a threat in a fight against the Hulk.

Oh heres one of the feats by the way.

Originally posted by Galan007
Tony (in the BE armor) shields himself and the Avengers from an alternate Ultron's attack:

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/987/tonyff1.th.jpg http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9602/tonyff2.th.jpg
(Ultron recognizes the force-field as Kree technology.)

---

And considering the above version of Ultron was powerful enough to combat power-stacked groups of opponents, such as this:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/917/ultorn1.th.jpg http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1372/ultorn2.th.jpg

...I'd say he was quite powerful.

I could have sworn that Extremis Iron Man could have nano-second reaction time. This version may have it as well.

Originally posted by Deadline
Absolutely feats against Apocalypse and Ultron aren't impressive.



Exactly right. Low Heralds like them are shit to Superman.

Supes knows MM very well and hes >> Vision. WM is not even a threat to Supes, Hulk cant fly, hes still grounded, jumping wont do shit.

So yeah, the trio is not doing shit.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Exactly right. Low Heralds like them are shit to Superman.





Originally posted by Galan007
Tony (in the BE armor) shields himself and the Avengers from an alternate Ultron's attack:

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/987/tonyff1.th.jpg http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9602/tonyff2.th.jpg
(Ultron recognizes the force-field as Kree technology.)

---

And considering the above version of Ultron was powerful enough to combat power-stacked groups of opponents, such as this:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/917/ultorn1.th.jpg http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1372/ultorn2.th.jpg

...I'd say he was quite powerful.

Beating Apocalypse is impressive when you consider that hes not fighting IM on his own.

What's BE armour?

Bleeding edge

Originally posted by Deadline
Bleeding edge

ah. i still don't see how it's going to help him beat Superman though. It might help him last longer, sure.

Quicksilver is pretty fast you know and that's an understatement

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...P2/14a7968e.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...P2/5fc757f3.jpg

http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view&current=TMA034020.jpg

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a6e46d78520239
http://www.imagebam.com/image/7bdde378520244

Someone tell me how Superman beats Vision or even cap marvel (monica)? Nope didn't think so either

oh and Hulk solo's hmph

Originally posted by -Pr-
If they combine their powers well at the start, they're going to get some good hits in, but the moment Superman decides to stop screwing around, they're all toast. He's too strong, too durable and too fast.

He wins.

agreed.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
Quicksilver is pretty fast you know and that's an understatement

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...P2/14a7968e.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...P2/5fc757f3.jpg

http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view&current=TMA034020.jpg

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a6e46d78520239
http://www.imagebam.com/image/7bdde378520244

Someone tell me how Superman beats Vision or even cap marvel (monica)? Nope didn't think so either

oh and Hulk solo's hmph

should probably fix your links.

Superman's still far faster, too.