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Team Mutants

Wolverine
Sabretooth
X-23
Deadpool
Warpath (w/vibranium knives)

Vs.

Team Asgardians

Valkyrie
Volstagg
Hogun
Fandral

Seriously? The mutants wouldn't stand a chance. The may have have healing factors and or adamantium bonding, but that counts for little when you're fighting a race of God's that can fight in any environment, out match you in virtually every category (except possible fighting ability, but that doesn't matter if your foe is significantly stronger, faster, and able blast you with incledible powerful energy of magic attacks from a mile away), and they also carry enchanted weapons. All they would have to do is punch them into orbit which would nullify the healing factor (a mutant healing factor doesn't mean that you can breathe in space). Or, and this is my personal favorite, as Wolverine has stated before that adamantium or not a weapon made of the right metal or blessed with the right enchantment would be able to take his head off. It's hard to heal when there are a group of Gods playing keep away with your head.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Seriously? The mutants wouldn't stand a chance. The may have have healing factors and or adamantium bonding, but that counts for little when you're fighting a race of God's that can fight in any environment, out match you in virtually every category (except possible fighting ability, but that doesn't matter if your foe is significantly stronger, faster, and able blast you with incledible powerful energy of magic attacks from a mile away), and they also carry enchanted weapons. All they would have to do is punch them into orbit which would nullify the healing factor (a mutant healing factor doesn't mean that you can breathe in space). Or, and this is my personal favorite, as Wolverine has stated before that adamantium or not a weapon made of the right metal or blessed with the right enchantment would be able to take his head off. It's hard to heal when there are a group of Gods playing keep away with your head.


blasting with what form of energy?

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Seriously? The mutants wouldn't stand a chance. The may have have healing factors and or adamantium bonding, but that counts for little when you're fighting a race of God's that can fight in any environment, out match you in virtually every category (except possible fighting ability, but that doesn't matter if your foe is significantly stronger, faster, and able blast you with incledible powerful energy of magic attacks from a mile away), and they also carry enchanted weapons. All they would have to do is punch them into orbit which would nullify the healing factor (a mutant healing factor doesn't mean that you can breathe in space). Or, and this is my personal favorite, as Wolverine has stated before that adamantium or not a weapon made of the right metal or blessed with the right enchantment would be able to take his head off. It's hard to heal when there are a group of Gods playing keep away with your head.

Except that was BS as shown in the Dark Reign arc in Origins.

well normally id say the asgardians but i dont see what theyd do to do enoguh damage against those healing factors. So the mutants beat the gods.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
blasting with what form of energy?
The same form of energy Valstag used to level soldier field in Chicago is a good example.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
The same form of energy Valstag used to level soldier field in Chicago is a good example.


I think your a bit confused the beam of energy orginated from Vector and X-ray, Volstagg deflected it with his sword it destroyed the stadium.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
The same form of energy Valstag used to level soldier field in Chicago is a good example.


you sure you read that correctly?

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Yeah it's crazy how Volstagg shots purple energy out of his belly and melts X-Rays hands togehter.

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Originally posted by Parmaniac
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Yeah it's crazy how Volstagg shots purple energy out of his belly and melts X-Rays hands togehter.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9025/energyblast1originsofsi.th.jpg well he is a god afterall.

The mutants win, mainly due to Wolverine.

On one hand, I don't see how the gods can put down Wolverine, Sabertooth, Deadpool and X-23, at least permantly. On the other hand, we know that at the very least Wolverine is tough enough to tank punches of the Hulk, who is waaaaaay stronger that any individual in the Gods team, and he can also hurt the green goliath.
The chances are that the mutants outskills the gods, while being able to fight much longuer, and they have the means to kill the gods.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The mutants win, mainly due to Wolverine.




Sabertooth > Logan


and y do the muties have more people on their team than the Asgardians....spite

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The mutants win, mainly due to Wolverine.

On one hand, I don't see how the gods can put down Wolverine, Sabertooth, Deadpool and X-23, at least permantly. On the other hand, we know that at the very least Wolverine is tough enough to tank punches of the Hulk, who is waaaaaay stronger that any individual in the Gods team, and he can also hurt the green goliath.
The chances are that the mutants outskills the gods, while being able to fight much longuer, and they have the means to kill the gods.


These gods wield "godly" blades.. They have stamina that enables them to fight for a vry long time, strength ranging 25-35 tons, and have weapon and fighting skills honed through thousands of years of battles. It's not that easy for the mutants.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They have stamina that enables them to fight for a vry long time, strength ranging 25-35 tons, and have weapon and fighting skills honed through thousands of years of battles. It's not that easy for the mutants.
To bad there stamina is still inferior to several members of the mutant team. None of the gods even come close to display the level of stamina wolverine has.

25-35 tons is not a good thing when dealing with several characters who can and have taken 100 class shots and kept on fighting.


For all there experience there not even as skilled as the least skilled mutant member........

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No one who has this much trouble with Daredevil is giving Wolverine a legitimate fight.

Hogun shouldnt have acknowledged DD's hits at all. he should have bn depicted like Wrecker in the new avenger story where he is shrugging off Luke and spidey's blows.

i would have used Luke as a comparison but he is weaker then Hogun and it would be an insult to an Asgardian Warrior to be lowered to Luke Cage Class

Hogun wasnt evem trying.. That was a non fight.. DD was exhausted..

Originally posted by King Castle
Hogun shouldnt have acknowledged DD's hits at all. he should have bn depicted like Wrecker in the new avenger story where he is shrugging off Luke and spidey's blows.

i would have used Luke as a comparison but he is weaker then Hogun and it would be an insult to an Asgardian Warrior to be lowered to Luke Cage Class

*whisper* Luke is stronger and much more durable than Hogun. He has class 30-40 strength and sub bullet proof durability...*whisper*

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
*whisper* Luke is stronger and much more durable than Hogun. He has class 30-40 strength and sub bullet proof durability...*whisper* Pfff... Hogun is a class 5o and has between 35 to 50 ton.
and if that were the case Luke would have been an even match for Wrecker.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hogun wasnt evem trying.. That was a non fight.. DD was exhausted..

That's a nice story but the reality is he thought DD was a demon and leveled a car with his attacks. He was trying at the beginning and then DD started to exhaust himself and Hogun didn't need to go 100% any more.

Originally posted by King Castle
Pfff... Hogun is a class 5o and has between 35 to 50 ton.
and if that were the case Luke would have been an even match for Wrecker.

Hogun isn't class 50 and he isn't a match for the Wrecker.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hogun isn't class 50 and he isn't a match for the Wrecker. he is too.. old bio's say so and i know he isnt a match for Wrecker b.c Wrecker is actually depicted above his weight class...

but i dont recall Luke being that strong either, i thought he was a 25 to 35 tops.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's a nice story but the reality is he thought DD was a demon and leveled a car with his attacks. He was trying at the beginning and then DD started to exhaust himself and Hogun didn't need to go 100% any more.


seriously are you reading correctly? he's not even fighting him. sigh... Hogun was "dazed and disoriented" and was trying to avoid DD and the cops the whole time. DD even mentioned how this guy was so far above him. sigh....

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
To bad there stamina is still inferior to several members of the mutant team. None of the gods even come close to display the level of stamina wolverine has.

25-35 tons is not a good thing when dealing with several characters who can and have taken 100 class shots and kept on fighting.


For all there experience there not even as skilled as the least skilled mutant member........
Just out of curiosity how do you suppose Wolverine will be able to keep fighting when someone drops a +100 ton boulder on him? The adamantium would keep him from being crushed but he is nowhere near strong enough to lift the boulder to free himself. Being hit with and surviving a +100 ton punch is considerably different than being immobilized by a +100 ton rock. It's pretty damn hard to cut your way out when you can't move your arms.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
seriously are you reading correctly? he's not even fighting him. sigh... Hogun was "dazed and disoriented" and was trying to avoid DD and the cops the whole time. DD even mentioned how this guy was so far above him. sigh....


Well this is the reason he was dazed and disoriented.

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Originally posted by Brockalizer
Just out of curiosity how do you suppose Wolverine will be able to keep fighting when someone drops a +100 ton boulder on him? The adamantium would keep him from being crushed but he is nowhere near strong enough to lift the boulder to free himself. Being hit with and surviving a +100 ton punch is considerably different than being immobilized by a +100 ton rock. It's pretty damn hard to cut your way out when you can't move your arms.

It would take just about everyone on the Asgardian team to pick up a boulder that large, and where the hell would they get the rock from anyway? Oh, and let's not forget that Wolverine routinely dances around bullets, dodging a rock wouldn't be too hard.

lol... 100 ton boulder?? I doubt that will be close to anything that would happen in this battle...

Originally posted by KingD19
It would take just about everyone on the Asgardian team to pick up a boulder that large, and where the hell would they get the rock from anyway? Oh, and let's not forget that Wolverine routinely dances around bullets, dodging a rock wouldn't be too hard.
Okay, maybe a +100 ton boulder is a bit of an exaggeration. I can admit that, but change it to a 10 ton boulder and he is equally as screwed. It's hard to dodge a rock that has been thrown faster than a bullet, which is easily within the powers of almost any Asgardian, especially when you're surrounded on all sides by a group pf pissed off Vikings. Make it a 10 ton chunk of magnetite (yes that is an actual rock) and it doesn't even need to land on him. The magnetic force would turn him into the worlds coolest refrigerator magnet. After the muties biggest threat it neutralized the rest is academic.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Okay, maybe a +100 ton boulder is a bit of an exaggeration. I can admit that, but change it to a 10 ton boulder and he is equally as screwed.
How many times have they ever used this stratgey? Never? once? And yet there going to use it now? Yea right. Characters are very much still in character. It not you with there powers, it them.


Also it a featureless environment which is the default setting. So no they wont be.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
to dodge a rock that has been thrown faster than a bullet, which is easily within the powers of almost any Asgardian, especially when you're surrounded on all sides by a group pf pissed off Vikings. it


Lets for sake there 50 tons which is being extremely generous. !0 tons with be a fifth of there strength. And you think they can throw that faster then a bullet are you fing kidding me...........

A pro base ball pitcher who can bench 250 pounds or more can't throw a pace ball that weights 5.25 ounce any were near the speed of the slowest guns and base ball is much less then 250th of there weight. So maybe you might want to re think your statements a little more.

also why do you assume there surrounded and on all sides for that matter when there out number.......and thats not how the fight starts......

honestly come on think this through little more your statements just down right outrageous.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
10 ton chunk of magnetite (yes that is an actual rock) and it doesn't even need to land on him. The magnetic force would turn him into the worlds coolest refrigerator magnet. After the muties biggest threat it neutralized the rest is academic.

Yes so now they just so happen have this special rock on them.....honestly THINK before you state absurd arguements.

Which Valkyrie is this?

I need to read the new Warriors Three issue. I heard they had nice strength feats and each of them showed that their weapons are enchanted or some such.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
These gods wield "godly" blades.. They have stamina that enables them to fight for a vry long time, strength ranging 25-35 tons, and have weapon and fighting skills honed through thousands of years of battles. It's not that easy for the mutants. average-high end asgardian is 75 tonner if I remember correctly.

IIRC, the Warriors Three, Balder etc. in their latest bio are class 50's. The regular Asgardian is only at 35 tons.

Originally posted by Uriel005
average-high end asgardian is 75 tonner if I remember correctly.
no there not. Most as guardians dont have anything close to the feats to suggest this.



average

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no there not. Most as guardians dont have anything close to the feats to suggest this.



average hmmm... will check my nifty little guide book again. Could have sworn it was 75.

Originally posted by Uriel005
hmmm... will check my nifty little guide book again. Could have sworn it was 75.
You do know there grossly inaccurate and are in no way shape or form evidence in debates on the board.........

Team Mutants

For several reasons, mainly because I think this team is far more tactical when it comes to combat. Sure, the gods are very well rounded(fast, strong...the works), but all that won't matter if they lack the strategy to utilize it.

As you know, Wolverine, X-23, and Warpath are no strangers to working together, so they instantly have the chemistry down. The following is one possible scenario I've come up with, to help explain the reasoning behind my assumption:

Wolvey, X-23, and Warpath stick together while Sabertooth scoffs at them and tries to do things his own way, while Deadpool cracks a situational joke and starts using pick up lines on Valkyrie while continuously teleporting around her as she pointlessly tries to look for the ko(she's not happy at this point).
Sabretooth gets his ass handed to him in a basket and a moral compromise ensues as a result of Wolverine and the rest of the team's urges--thus the divided faction molds into one, united team with a common cause:survive.

At this point, the team realize that they need to think of something, and quick. To buy some time, Wolverine, assuming the role of squad leader, directs Deadpool to drop down some suppressive fire (in the form of grenades), temporarily blocking the gods' line of sight. Like I said before, the Mutants are far more tactically and strategically superior to their godly opponents. Their best option, when it comes down to taking out a god, is to concentrate and overwhealm one at a time. Like I said, they're very well rounded, but even gods of their magnitude cannot overcome the combined might of 5 mutants of such caliber.
Realizing each others' assets and what their unique abilities can bring forth to the table, the team quickly dispatch Deadpool(who takes up a supporting role) to come out of cover and continuously pester the gods via using a hit and teleport technique which further enrages Valkyrie. Step 2 for the mutants is to have their "muscle" (Warpath and Sabretooth) use their combined might to grapple and essentially hold down one god at a time while Wolverine and X-23 deliver the fatal, finishing blows. As long as the blades can penetrate, it's over and done with. Not even the Warrior's Three can regenerate lost limbs or organs, so they needn't worry about them coming back for round two.
Fandral(whom the team see as the biggest threat) is called out by Sabretooth, who takes advantage of Fendor's honorable nature and challenges him to a 1 on 1 battle. Of course, Sabretooth has no intention of taking him on his own and the team initiate step 2(Warpath comes out and assists Sabretooth in subdoing/grabbing Fendor, while Wolverine and X-23 puncture, slice and dice.) Due to the nature of Fandrals impressive peripheral vision, he has great ability when it comes to seeing multiple strikes coming at him simultaneously during a battle with numerous foes. But in my opinion, Sabretooth could always gauge Fendor's eyes, seeing as he has an unconventional, dirty fighting style. Of course, he doesn't really know a thing about Fendor, so that wouldn't cross his mind.

If the mutants manage to take Fendor down, than it's time to isolate the next god. Deadpool creates a smoke haze by blasting the ground with his grenades. Sabretooth uses his keen sense of smell to locate and isolate his next target, and again repeats the process of step 2 until the Warrior's Three have been eliminated and only Valkyrie remains. By now, Deadpool has been knocked out about 17 times(11 of which were probably Valkyrie) but always manages to recover quick enough to not retract the gods attention from him.

Conclusion:
Valkyrie(who assumed her counterparts were off battling the other mutants), is the last god remaining. She looks around, only to see she is outnumbered 5 to 1. Deadpool confidently makes a proposal something to the nature of: if they went out on a date, she'd be spared. Valkrie, who'd rather die than spend another second listening to Deadpool, slits her own throat. The end

Pretty much how most fights with Hulk and other bricks should go for Wolverine.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC, the Warriors Three, Balder etc. in their latest bio are class 50's. The regular Asgardian is only at 35 tons.

I believe the normal Asgardian male can do about 30 tons. Hogun is a little bit above that while Fandral is around the normal levels. Fandral however is faster than most Asgardians. Volstagg should be strongest of the three. He is at the higher levels of class 50. Valkyrie is around class 50. She is much stronger than the average Asgardian female. I don't remember where I read this from. meh....

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Pretty much how most fights with Hulk and other bricks should go for Wolverine.

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Love that fact you leave the context out that it took two people to accomplish that and out of several fights with them they only accomplished that once.......and again the entire event assume there is such objects around which there isn't and that it a likely strategy from these guys which it aint.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Love that fact you leave the context out that it took two people to accomplish that and out of several fights with them they only accomplished that once.......and again the entire event assume there is such objects around which there isn't and that it a likely strategy from these guys which it aint.

Love what facts out of context? That it takes two Hulk's to drop something like that on Wolverine? The only way Logan would avoid such a thing would be in a clear field else Logan would be eating cars and buildings on him from Hulk. One thunder clap followed by a truck on him and that overrated mutant would be no threat to Hulk at all.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Love what facts out of context? That it takes two Hulk's to drop something like that on Wolverine? The only way Logan would avoid such a thing would be in a clear field else Logan would be eating cars and buildings on him from Hulk. One thunder clap followed by a truck on him and that overrated mutant would be no threat to Hulk at all.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Love what facts out of context? That it takes two Hulk's to drop something like that on Wolverine?
Stop saying Hulk, he not in this fight. There entire team would lose to Hulk at once so, stop using him as if he relevant point.

The fact the only reason they accomplished getting the statue on wolverine is becuase one guy held him down........and had tackled him whle engaging with another opponent in mid leap. Yes context is much need which you like to ignopre.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
way Logan would avoid such a thing would be in a clear field else Logan would be eating cars and buildings on him from Hulk. One thunder clap followed by a truck on him and that overrated mutant would be no threat to Hulk at all.
Why do you keep bring up a character that is complete irrelevant to this fight and battle fields that are completely irrelevant to this battle as well?

Thunder Claps don't even bother wolverine.......

Again HULKS NOT IN THIS FIGHT.

bump

yeh, i just notice the trolling i didnt notice it before.

the Wolvie scan has absolutely no baring here nor does Hulk or his brood.

we need a mod here if he/she continues to bait.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Which Valkyrie is this?

I need to read the new Warriors Three issue. I heard they had nice strength feats and each of them showed that their weapons are enchanted or some such.


Current Val.
Aren't all the abilities of Valkyrie essentially the same anyway?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I believe the normal Asgardian male can do about 30 tons. Hogun is a little bit above that while Fandral is around the normal levels. Fandral however is faster than most Asgardians. Volstagg should be strongest of the three. He is at the higher levels of class 50. Valkyrie is around class 50. She is much stronger than the average Asgardian female. I don't remember where I read this from. meh.... Interestingly, in Marvel the Hindu, Russian, and Celtic gods are all stated to be on average physically stronger than the Asgardian and Olympian gods.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's a nice story but the reality is he thought DD was a demon and leveled a car with his attacks. He was trying at the beginning and then DD started to exhaust himself and Hogun didn't need to go 100% any more.


If he really wanted to, he could have killed DD and ended the fight. You be smokin the good shiet.

This is what happens when gods stop messing around with mortals.
Not even a genetically engineered A.I.M. weapon infused with Fenris's blood could stand against "Hridgandr, the storm wand". She got KO'ed the eff out. They take it easy then the kid gloves come off.
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Mutants for the easy win eh?

awesome Hogun has a magic weapon... pwned

Originally posted by The Transporter
Team Mutants

For several reasons, mainly because I think this team is far more tactical when it comes to combat. Sure, the gods are very well rounded(fast, strong...the works), but all that won't matter if they lack the strategy to utilize it.

As you know, Wolverine, X-23, and Warpath are no strangers to working together, so they instantly have the chemistry down. The following is one possible scenario I've come up with, to help explain the reasoning behind my assumption:

Wolvey, X-23, and Warpath stick together while Sabertooth scoffs at them and tries to do things his own way, while Deadpool cracks a situational joke and starts using pick up lines on Valkyrie while continuously teleporting around her as she pointlessly tries to look for the ko(she's not happy at this point).
Sabretooth gets his ass handed to him in a basket and a moral compromise ensues as a result of Wolverine and the rest of the team's urges--thus the divided faction molds into one, united team with a common cause:survive.

At this point, the team realize that they need to think of something, and quick. To buy some time, Wolverine, assuming the role of squad leader, directs Deadpool to drop down some suppressive fire (in the form of grenades), temporarily blocking the gods' line of sight. Like I said before, the Mutants are far more tactically and strategically superior to their godly opponents. Their best option, when it comes down to taking out a god, is to concentrate and overwhealm one at a time. Like I said, they're very well rounded, but even gods of their magnitude cannot overcome the combined might of 5 mutants of such caliber.
Realizing each others' assets and what their unique abilities can bring forth to the table, the team quickly dispatch Deadpool(who takes up a supporting role) to come out of cover and continuously pester the gods via using a hit and teleport technique which further enrages Valkyrie. Step 2 for the mutants is to have their "muscle" (Warpath and Sabretooth) use their combined might to grapple and essentially hold down one god at a time while Wolverine and X-23 deliver the fatal, finishing blows. As long as the blades can penetrate, it's over and done with. Not even the Warrior's Three can regenerate lost limbs or organs, so they needn't worry about them coming back for round two.
Fandral(whom the team see as the biggest threat) is called out by Sabretooth, who takes advantage of Fendor's honorable nature and challenges him to a 1 on 1 battle. Of course, Sabretooth has no intention of taking him on his own and the team initiate step 2(Warpath comes out and assists Sabretooth in subdoing/grabbing Fendor, while Wolverine and X-23 puncture, slice and dice.) Due to the nature of Fandrals impressive peripheral vision, he has great ability when it comes to seeing multiple strikes coming at him simultaneously during a battle with numerous foes. But in my opinion, Sabretooth could always gauge Fendor's eyes, seeing as he has an unconventional, dirty fighting style. Of course, he doesn't really know a thing about Fendor, so that wouldn't cross his mind.

If the mutants manage to take Fendor down, than it's time to isolate the next god. Deadpool creates a smoke haze by blasting the ground with his grenades. Sabretooth uses his keen sense of smell to locate and isolate his next target, and again repeats the process of step 2 until the Warrior's Three have been eliminated and only Valkyrie remains. By now, Deadpool has been knocked out about 17 times(11 of which were probably Valkyrie) but always manages to recover quick enough to not retract the gods attention from him.

Conclusion:
Valkyrie(who assumed her counterparts were off battling the other mutants), is the last god remaining. She looks around, only to see she is outnumbered 5 to 1. Deadpool confidently makes a proposal something to the nature of: if they went out on a date, she'd be spared. Valkrie, who'd rather die than spend another second listening to Deadpool, slits her own throat. The end

Wow thats a well thought out fight i'll give you credit for but your senario has a couple of flaws. First the asgardian gods magic is too powerful for the mutants. Second their combat skills inferior? Its truly the healing factors is why they are great fighters cause they keep coming. the weapons can dismember them. They are at least as smart tactically as the mutants the differnce is that the gods can change on a whim the mutants would get beaten up for a while before they could figure out a counterstrike "plan" and when was the last time sabretooth listened to logan anyways. IMO gods 6/10 or 7/10