OWAW Superman Vs Superboy Prime

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Prep-Man
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/75941-160900-superman_large.jpg

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http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7368/188703-79298-superboy-prime_large.JPG

KuRuPT Thanosi
OWAW Rips Prime in half

Galan007
Going with OWAW Supes.

...Though I do wonder how the massive amounts of solar radiation he was emitting would affect Prime..? Seems like he might be able to absorb it.

celeyhyga17
If it were that easy, why didn't Supes do that in the first place since he was seeing heroes get torn to pieces left and right??

Allankles
Simple answer SBP isn't powerful enough to warrant Superman getting an OWAW level sundip. I mean Braniac 13 + War World with Imperiex>>>>>>SBP.

Galan007
Originally posted by Allankles
I mean Braniac 13 + War World with Imperiex>>>>>>SBP. In all fairness, OWAW Supes didn't beat that lineup by himself. He had a fair amount of help.

Prep-Man
What did OWAW Supes do that Superboy couldn't??

Allankles
Tempest, Darkseid, Amazons and I think Lex. Nevertheless SBP is a lesser threat, it would be overkill for Supes to go to those lengths on his petulant Earth prime counterpart.

Galan007
Originally posted by Allankles
Tempest, Darkseid, Amazons and I think Lex. Nevertheless SBP is a lesser threat, it would be overkill for Supes to go to those lengths on his petulant Earth prime counterpart. Yeah, the aforementioned + a boom tube were used to aid Supes -- here's why:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1701/owaw1.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3058/owaw2.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/791/owaw3.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5701/owaw4.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/7069/owaw5.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9862/owaw6.jpg


Don't get me wrong, I do think OWAW Supes would stomp Prime (as long as Prime cannot absorb the solar radiation he emits, of course.)

SquallX
Do you guys know, this scenario would be in Prime's favor right.

The Superman Legacies derives there powers from solar energy, and what is Sun Dipped Superman, he's nothing but a living battery, that constantly giving off solar energy.

So while they fight, Prime would continue to absorbs the excess solar energy and get stronger, while Kal continues to grow weaker.

McNasty996
Originally posted by Prep-Man
What did OWAW Supes do that Superboy couldn't??

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by SquallX
Do you guys know, this scenario would be in Prime's favor right.

The Superman Legacies derives there powers from solar energy, and what is Sun Dipped Superman, he's nothing but a living battery, that constantly giving off solar energy.

So while they fight, Prime would continue to absorbs the excess solar energy and get stronger, while Kal continues to grow weaker. Prime didn't absorb any of the Supermen's solar energies when he fought them.

SquallX
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Prime didn't absorb any of the Supermen's solar energies when he fought them.

Regular Superman solar energies are stored inside of him, while sun dipped kal absorbs so much solar energy, they turn is body into a little living sun.

he is constantly giving off excess solar energy, energy he can't control. That's the different between sun dipped, and regular Kal.

OneDumbG0
^ Meh. Taking your argument for granted, I don't think what Prime absorbs will make a difference if it ain't direct sunlight.

Allankles
Originally posted by SquallX
Do you guys know, this scenario would be in Prime's favor right.

The Superman Legacies derives there powers from solar energy, and what is Sun Dipped Superman, he's nothing but a living battery, that constantly giving off solar energy.

So while they fight, Prime would continue to absorbs the excess solar energy and get stronger, while Kal continues to grow weaker.

I doubt that Supes is givng off significant solar energy after the OWAW Sundip i.e. it's not anywhere near equivalent to a sun, or even a solar suit. His body goes through some kind of transmutation, that doesn't translate to becoming a solar battery.

Otherwise why don't solar powered Kryptonians empower other Kryptonians if they can simply absorb solar energy directly from each other?

Even if all of that is true, the most important thing against it making a difference for SBP in terms of power is that his body absorbs energy passively. Kryptonians convert solar energy anyway, they don't keep it in their bodies as pure solar energy, otherwise how would they sustain their power for long periods, without containing said energy efficiently and then keeping large quantities in reserve?

They'd need to keep recharging constantly (which not the case) hence the reason why some authors prescribe to the theory that the solar energy is unlocking energy or functions, already present but inert without solar energy.

kevdude
I'd say OWAW Superman.

Galan007
OWAW Supes was emitting quite a bit of solar radiation:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2064/supesowaw1.th.jpg http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2382/supesowaw2.th.jpg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7425/supesowaw3.th.jpg http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5831/supesowaw4.th.jpg

But even if Prime could absorb the radiation Supes was giving off, we have absolutely no way of knowing how much of an amp it would give him. It could certainly make things interesting, though.

Rao Kal El
Bump

Galan007
What this guy said:
Originally posted by Galan007
Going with OWAW Supes.

...Though I do wonder how the massive amounts of solar radiation he was emitting would affect Prime..? Seems like he might be able to absorb it.

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Delta1938
Originally posted by Galan007
Going with OWAW Supes.

...Though I do wonder how the massive amounts of solar radiation he was emitting would affect Prime..? Seems like he might be able to absorb it.

I take it the picture that no longer exists in the OP was of him Sun-Dipped?

Stoic
So Galan, if Prime did begin to absorb the solar rads that OWAW Supes was emitting, wouldn't Prime also begin to emit solar rads himself, thus possibly making this a stalemate if it went on long enough? Let me explain a little better in case you didn't follow. Prime would emit solar rays that OWAW Superman would then begin to absorb as well, which would mean that they would basically go back and forth sponging up the rads that the both of them put out. Possible stalemate?

Blue Area Vet
This thread sick

Time-Immemorial
Congrats, you finally picked a gender, but you are still blue area vagina to me.

Zack M
laughing out loud laughing out loud

Galan007
Originally posted by Stoic
So Galan, if Prime did begin to absorb the solar rads that OWAW Supes was emitting, wouldn't Prime also begin to emit solar rads himself, thus possibly making this a stalemate if it went on long enough? Let me explain a little better in case you didn't follow. Prime would emit solar rays that OWAW Superman would then begin to absorb as well, which would mean that they would basically go back and forth sponging up the rads that the both of them put out. Possible stalemate? OWAW Superman actually generated a substantial solar energy aura:
http://i.imgur.com/mRKEC7D.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BXIp9rd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/J7f68fr.jpg

(There are quite a few other examples of the aura, but I'm sure you get my point.)


And given that Red Star was able to hurt Prime because he emits red solar radiation:
http://i.imgur.com/e2IkB3D.jpg

...I feel confident that OWAW Superman's aura would amp him for the very same reason.

However, it is impossible to know how Prime would metabolize said energy. If we're using the Guardian instance as a reference(it is about the only showing we have to go by, after all), then the energy would amp him, but he likely wouldn't produce an untamed/visible energy field as a corollary, like Superman did after he sundipped. Prime *seemed* to process energy very efficiently.

But again, I'm just spitballing. We simply can't know for sure.

EcstaticGrace
How long did the Red Star fight last?

Galan007
^ One panel longer. In it, Prime tossed RS aside.

ghostman
and add to the fact that a nearly depleted prime was able to recharge himself with just a glimpse of sunlight when he fought the jl/jsa. i have no doubt that he could amp off of owaw supes excess energy.

h1a8
So this is sundipped OWAW Superman and not OWAW Superman without the sundip?

Galan007
Originally posted by ghostman
and add to the fact that a nearly depleted prime was able to recharge himself with just a glimpse of sunlight when he fought the jl/jsa. i have no doubt that he could amp off of owaw supes excess energy. thumb up

He was getting trounced by the heroes...then his hand touched sunlight...they he casually swatted all of them away:
http://i.imgur.com/p0Iftf8.jpg

*clap on*

Originally posted by h1a8
So this is sundipped OWAW Superman and not OWAW Superman without the sundip? I'm pretty sure that Prep originally posted a pic of sun-dipped OWAW Superman in the OP... Hence my original response.

But anyway, OWAW Supes wins if amping isn't allowed. If amping IS permitted, Prime wins.

abhilegend
Superman wins either way.

h1a8
Originally posted by Galan007
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He was getting trounced by the heroes...then his hand touched sunlight...they he casually swatted all of them away:
http://i.imgur.com/p0Iftf8.jpg

*clap on*

I'm pretty sure that Prep originally posted a pic of sun-dipped OWAW Superman in the OP... Hence my original response.

But anyway, OWAW Supes wins if amping isn't allowed. If amping IS permitted, Prime wins. So he changed the original pic to normal Superman?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman wins either way. Bottles are popping at your house tonight

abhilegend
Tears are running in your eyes though.

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quanchi112
Prime wins.

carver9
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime wins.

Diesldude
Originally posted by Stoic
So Galan, if Prime did begin to absorb the solar rads that OWAW Supes was emitting, wouldn't Prime also begin to emit solar rads himself, thus possibly making this a stalemate if it went on long enough? Let me explain a little better in case you didn't follow. Prime would emit solar rays that OWAW Superman would then begin to absorb as well, which would mean that they would basically go back and forth sponging up the rads that the both of them put out. Possible stalemate?

Prime's powers with yellow sun light work differently. A single day of sunlight charges him to full power. I don't think giving him more yellow sunlight boosts his stats like they do with superman.

So imo this puts superman over prime.

Galan007
Originally posted by Diesldude
Prime's powers with yellow sun light work differently. A single day of sunlight charges him to full power. I don't think giving him more yellow sunlight boosts his stats like they do with superman. Where did you hear that..? confused

backup
I think that OWAW Superman wins.

By the by, off-topic, Prime is immune to reality warping?

Diesldude
Originally posted by Galan007
Where did you hear that..? confused

I figured if a single day of yellow sunlight on his finger was enough to bring him to full power and overpower a group od heros then a prolonged full body sunbath would have made him immensely more powerful but it didn't.

Galan007
Sunlight certainly appears to charge Prime faster than Superman... But that doesn't mean diving into the heart of the sun itself wouldn't massively amp Prime. none

quanchi112
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't prime close to full power thus that little bit of sunlight would be enough to get him to normal levels. It's been years but my mind is soooooooo friggin' sharp.

Galan007
Prime was close to full power at the beginning of the fight(as stated by him.) Fast-forward to the end of the fight(just before the sun came up), however, and it's doubtful that he was still nearly at full power, given the beating he'd taken from the heroes.

That said, even in this diminished state, Prime's HV was still capable of piercing through Superman like a hot knife through butter:
http://i.imgur.com/AY4QhC0.png

...Which is quite something.


As for why that single glimmer of sunlight touching his hand was able to charge him so quickly: he's a pre-crisis Kryptonian. He don't do logical. /shrug

quanchi112
Prime and KC Superman are the only Supermen worth a damn.

Surtur
Originally posted by Zack M
What did OWAW Supes do that Superboy couldn't??

Also how does he harm him at all? Remember Prime survived universal explosions.

Surtur
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime and KC Superman are the only Supermen worth a damn.

Dude, motherf*ciking PC Superman. He has shoved objects back in time, because f*ck physics. He sneezes away star systems and calls GL rings little trinkets. He's better than you and me. PC Superboy tugs galaxies like it's one of those little red wagons, a radio flyer.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Prime was close to full power at the beginning of the fight(as stated by him.) Fast-forward to the end of the fight(just before the sun came up), however, and it's doubtful that he was still nearly at full power, given the beating he'd taken from the heroes.

That said, even in this diminished state, Prime's HV was still capable of piercing through Superman like a hot knife through butter:
http://i.imgur.com/AY4QhC0.png

...Which is quite something.


As for why that single glimmer of sunlight touching his hand was able to charge him so quickly: he's a pre-crisis Kryptonian. He don't do logical. /shrug

Zod was able to do the same thing though, blast through Superman and he is only Herald level.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
Dude, motherf*ciking PC Superman. He has shoved objects back in time, because f*ck physics. He sneezes away star systems and calls GL rings little trinkets. He's better than you and me. PC Superboy tugs galaxies like it's one of those little red wagons, a radio flyer. PC Superman is a queer.

Surtur
Originally posted by quanchi112
PC Superman is a queer.

No, he loves hoes. Just not stupid ones. Remember when he dissed Lois for being too stupid to figure out Clark Kent was Superman? Good times.

Also, he just doesn't give a f*ck:

http://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/slugfest.jpeg

Just look at his eyes. There is murder in those eyes. For daring to point out Superman started the fight.

Surtur
Okay so this isn't PC Superman, but it is proof why Superman is the best super hero ever:

http://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/batmandead.jpg

I mean at this point the context of that scene doesn't even matter. Just the fact that Superman is holding the corpse of Batman with the "How to murder the Earth" tagline is enough.

iceman24567
Well watching Superman go batshit crazy when he realizes Batman was killed was hilarious

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Zod was able to do the same thing though, blast through Superman and he is only Herald level.

Well Prime wasn't at full power at the moment (which makes it more impressive). 2nd, the hv had a little resistance going through if you carefully look at the scan. Zod's hv had more resistance, and Prime in another showing (at full power) had 0 resistance as it went through Superman as if he wasn't there.

IMO, Prime wins if Superman isn't sundipped and Superman wins if he is.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
No, he loves hoes. Just not stupid ones. Remember when he dissed Lois for being too stupid to figure out Clark Kent was Superman? Good times.

Also, he just doesn't give a f*ck:

http://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/slugfest.jpeg

Just look at his eyes. There is murder in those eyes. For daring to point out Superman started the fight. He undresses men with his eyes. You can totally tell.

Diesldude
Originally posted by quanchi112
He undresses men with his eyes. You can totally tell.

Oh Snap, is that why you hate him? Because he knows about your micro penis.

Surtur
Originally posted by quanchi112
He undresses men with his eyes. You can totally tell.

Dude has x-ray vision, he's undressing *everyone* with his eyes.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Zod was able to do the same thing though, blast through Superman and he is only Herald level. Your selective vision is astounding, lol. You evidently missed the part where Prime was significantly weakened when he did that. IOW, he can still preform herald-level feats... In a notably diminished state. smile

When Prime is at full power(or at least close to it), even Superman admitted that he can't stop him without A LOT of help... In this case, the ENTIRE LoSH:

http://i.imgur.com/3Ooip9E.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NrtoxSal.jpg



Maybe that explains the "WE'RE F*CKED!" look on the heroes' faces(even Superman's), after Prime got a bit of sunlight:
http://i.imgur.com/l3oWpDn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5tfFG3g.jpg

................

http://i.imgur.com/0R5xU8f.png


laughing out loud

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