Klaw vs Juggernaut

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Bentley
Klaw the sound-made enemy of BP. Can they hurt each other?

Parmaniac
Juggs is definately not gonna win.

I don't know if Klaw can take Juggs out he was effected by sound before but that doesn't grants an auto win for him imo.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Juggs is definately not gonna win.

Wasn't it strongly implied in Shuri mini that Klaw can be killed via physical force? For example when he's unconscious or something?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wasn't it strongly implied in Shuri mini that Klaw can be killed via physical force? For example when he's unconscious or something? Actually both was stated, when he went down she threw vibranium at him (at his metal arm, which is retarded cause he consists of living sound).

Spider-man kicked him and said he shrugged off that kick like it was nothing.

A dinosaur has bitten him and he said wounds are nothing to him cause he consists of living sound and Wolverine's and Shuri's attacks without the S.L.V. were pretty much useless.

TBH I put Shuris statement that she could have killed him when he was KOed into the bullshit category.

But there's definately an inconsistancy there. Because sometimes he at least is drawn like he feels pain when someone without vibranium hits him.

But even if Juggs could hurt him Klaw can still just fly up and take a time out.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Actually both was stated, when he went down she threw vibranium at him (at his metal arm, which is retarded cause he consists of living sound).

Spider-man kicked him and said he shrugged off that kick like it was nothing.

A dinosaur has bitten him and he said wounds are nothing to him cause he consists of living sound and Wolverine's and Shuri's attacks without the S.L.V. were pretty much useless.

TBH I put Shuris statement that she could have killed him when he was KOed into the bullshit category.

But there's definately an inconsistancy there. Because sometimes he at least is drawn like he feels pain when someone without vibranium hits him.

Maybe he needs to make a conscious effort, kinda brace himself or something?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
But even if Juggs could hurt him Klaw can still just fly up and take a time out.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9742/goodpoint.jpg

King Castle
is klaw still reliant on his vibe claw arm?

Black bolt z
Only option for either is BFR. Klaw isn't hurting juggs with sound and juggs have absolutely no way to hurt Klaw.

Bentley
This is supposed to be Classic Jugg of course.

zopzop
Klaw is SOOOOOOOOOOO under rated it's not even funny.

I hate how the writers are inconsistent with him too. He cannot die by physical means at all. During Secret War 1, Dr. Doom cut up his body and was using it as a lens to channel power into Doom.

Dazzler ATE HIM and spat him out as a huge bolt of power at Galactus and later Klaw was reformed, slightly insane from the experience but he was alive and well.

Later issues have him being knocked unconscious from a fall (Fantastic Four Annual 24) but this is normal as he's been knocked unconscious before because the concussive force disrupts his body's frequency. No biggie.

Trapping him in a vacuum doesn't work anymore either. This was also shown in FF Annual 24.

It's a stalemate, neither can hurt the other. Neither will get tired or die of old age, they'd just be going at it...............FOREVER.

King Castle
doesnt he need his vibranium klaw to stay coherent?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by zopzop
Klaw is SOOOOOOOOOOO under rated it's not even funny.

I hate how the writers are inconsistent with him too. He cannot die by physical means at all. During Secret War 1, Dr. Doom cut up his body and was using it as a lens to channel power into Doom.

Dazzler ATE HIM and spat him out as a huge bolt of power at Galactus and later Klaw was reformed, slightly insane from the experience but he was alive and well.

Later issues have him being knocked unconscious from a fall (Fantastic Four Annual 24) but this is normal as he's been knocked unconscious before because the concussive force disrupts his body's frequency. No biggie.

Trapping him in a vacuum doesn't work anymore either. This was also shown in FF Annual 24.

It's a stalemate, neither can hurt the other. Neither will get tired or die of old age, they'd just be going at it...............FOREVER. Ummm...why does trapping him in a vaccum not work? He is made of sound and there is no sound in a vaccum.

zopzop
His body adapts, it was a flaw in his old blaster that caused his body to break down in a vacuum. See :
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3848/fantasticfourannual2442.th.jpg

Eternal Idol
Originally posted by zopzop
Later issues have him being knocked unconscious from a fall (Fantastic Four Annual 24) but this is normal as he's been knocked unconscious before because the concussive force disrupts his body's frequency. No biggie.

It's a stalemate, neither can hurt the other. Neither will get tired or die of old age, they'd just be going at it...............FOREVER.

If he fell hard enough to credibly knock him out via disrupted body frequency, then why couldn't someone who has top-tier strength, like Juggernaut, hurt Klaw?

Klaw must be either completely unfazed by physical attacks, or just highly-resistant to them. He sure as hell can't be both.

zopzop
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
If he fell hard enough to credibly knock him out via disrupted body frequency, then why couldn't someone who has top-tier strength, like Juggernaut, hurt Klaw?

Klaw must be either completely unfazed by physical attacks, or just highly-resistant to them. He sure as hell can't be both.

That's the thing, the writers are inconsistent. It's a known fact that he's living sound waves. How do you hurt that physically? Hint, you can't.

Eternal Idol
Originally posted by zopzop
That's the thing, the writers are inconsistent. It's a known fact that he's living sound waves. How do you hurt that physically? Hint, you can't.
Yeah, I get that part. I am a bit confused by the "No biggie." after you mentioned he was knocked out by the fall, though. Made it seem like Klaw being knocked out physically by sufficient force to disrupt his body frequency was credible enough for you to accept.

King Castle
Originally posted by zopzop
His body adapts, it was a flaw in his old blaster that caused his body to break down in a vacuum. See :
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3848/fantasticfourannual2442.th.jpg in a more recent story Reed Richards cracked his vibe klaw with an energy blast which caused him to shrink and get sucked into his klaw also causing him vast pain unable to regulate himself.

story came out in 95-98 iirc

YFZ 350
Probably Klaw.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by zopzop
Later issues have him being knocked unconscious from a fall (Fantastic Four Annual 24) but this is normal as he's been knocked unconscious before because the concussive force disrupts his body's frequency. No biggie.
Actually I have big problem with that cause he is sound, he should have no real body weight and he can fly, he shouldn't fall in the first place.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Maybe he needs to make a conscious effort, kinda brace himself or something? Possible but even if that would be the "official" reason it still wouldn't make any sense.

It's actually pretty sad how inconsistent he is cause I really like characters with no solid body form (Sandman, Hydroman, Clayface, X-Ray, Vapor, Klaw) and his powers got a lot of potential and are pretty versatile.

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