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John Hancock faces off against the Twilight vampires and the Wolf pack. (All Members included.) No restrictions, anything goes.

Fight takes place at night, in a huge open area surrounded by woods.
Twilight on one side, Hancock on the other. 500 meters apart.

Who wins?

Well....maybe when Alec does something in the films the Vampires might stand a catch. Right now though, Hancock will kill 'em. Except for perhaps Jane or Jasper.

Hancock speedblitzes most of them as soon as the match starts.

I hate to say it, but Jane might actually win it for Twilight.

I think Hancock would wipe the floor with everyone in Twilight as long as he doesnt have a hangover

Originally posted by Placidity
I hate to say it, but Jane might actually win it for Twilight.

She can hurt Hancock but much beyond that they can't really do anything to him.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
She can hurt Hancock but much beyond that they can't really do anything to him.

That depends if you think they can pierce his skin with their teeth.

The TwiVamps couldn't possibly compete with HAncock's speed, strength and durability.

Originally posted by the ninjak
The TwiVamps couldn't possibly compete with HAncock's speed, strength and durability.

Thats why I said Jane is the only one that could bring him down. Yet to hear arguments for this.

Originally posted by Placidity
That depends if you think they can pierce his skin with their teeth.

He had no problem with .50 caliber bullets and was able to casually deflect an RPG with his hand. That and taking hits from a more powerful version of himself while being weakened.

Don't see how vampire teeth are going to damage him.

Originally posted by Placidity
That depends if you think they can pierce his skin with their teeth.

Will their teeth cut their own rectums up, when their heads go up each other's arses...?

Well, there is Renata. All she has to do is touch a person and all physical attacks really don't work for whatever's in that shield over her and her "protected."

Which brings up another point: I'm almost certain that Twilight's wrtier, Meyer, stole that idea from Harry Potter's writer, Rowling: it functions JUST like an anti-muggle shield charm. WTF?

Honestly, I don't know what to say. I wanted to knee-jerk and say that it's a land-slide victory for Hancock.


Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Will their teeth cut their own rectums up, when their heads go up each other's arses...?

Originally posted by Placidity
Thats why I said Jane is the only one that could bring him down. Yet to hear arguments for this.

Hancock kills them before they can react mebbe?

Hancock lazily bracing himself stopped a train with enough force to send it off the rails.

He could, in an instant and while weakened, leave the city of New York in his flight.

He tears them to pieces.

Seriously, no matter how much pain Jane causes him, they cannot so much as break his skin, and he could lazily rip them in half.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Seriously, no matter how much pain Jane causes him, they cannot so much as break his skin, and he could lazily rip them in half.

Pretty much. Would need serious powers in the Breaking Dawn movie for it to matter.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hancock lazily bracing himself stopped a train with enough force to send it off the rails.

He could, in an instant and while weakened, leave the city of New York in his flight.

He tears them to pieces.

Seriously, no matter how much pain Jane causes him, they cannot so much as break his skin, and he could lazily rip them in half.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Seriously, no matter how much pain Jane causes him, they cannot so much as break his skin, and he could lazily rip them in half.

Question is, since they're granite-like would their assholes expand to accept a head or would their asses simply shatter?

Originally posted by Robtard
Question is, since they're granite-like would their assholes expand to accept a head or would their asses simply shatter?

Answer: Bella describes the skin as "fleshy" once she becomes a vampire. To a human, it feels as hard as granite. To a vampire, it feels "normal" due to the massive strength difference between a vampire and a human.



How do I know this? I read Breaking Dawn.


That means the ***hole should expand but due to the "frozen in time clause, it will shrink right back down.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Answer: Bella describes the skin as "fleshy" once she becomes a vampire. To a human, it feels as hard as granite. To a vampire, it feels "normal" due to the massive strength difference between a vampire and a human.



How do I know this? I read Breaking Dawn.


That means the ***hole should expand but due to the "frozen in time clause, it will shrink right back down.
The subject matter of this conversation is a poignant indicator of the literary merit of Twilight.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That means the ***hole should expand but due to the "frozen in time clause, it will shrink right back down.

I've seen enough WTF porn to know that the human ******* is one seriously resilient mofo; that has insane abilities of going back to normal even after extreme 'stress.'

But as it pertains to the thread, Edward will get what he's always dreamed about, short-shorts boy's wolf-head up his vampire ass.

Hancock keeps shoving heads up a$$ until he recreates the human centipede.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Seriously, no matter how much pain Jane causes him, they cannot so much as break his skin, and he could lazily rip them in half.

Ok, lets go with the assumption that they can't penetrate his skin. Thats still a draw if he is incapacitated by Jane.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Hancock kills them before they can react mebbe?

I disagree with this. While Hancock is pretty fast, the Twilight gang have superspeed of their own, even if not as fast, they'd still be able to see him, Hancock ain't no Smallville. My opinion of course.

Originally posted by Placidity
Ok, lets go with the assumption that they can't penetrate his skin. Thats still a draw if he is incapacitated by Jane.



I disagree with this. While Hancock is pretty fast, the Twilight gang have superspeed of their own, even if not as fast, they'd still be able to see him, Hancock ain't no Smallville. My opinion of course.

Your last statement is true. Edward and Felix are moving so fast, IN a 4x slow-mo, that they still appear to be a blur. Not quite Smallville, but still pretty damn uber.

They are fast, but not compared to Hancock. That's like an olympic runner being fast, but then he goes up against Lestat.

Hancock casually broke the sound barrier, went fast enough to break Earth's atmosphere and head into space. And he was fast enough to paint the All-Heart logo on the moon before anyone noticed.

On top of that during the bank robbery he was moving so fast he was invisible to the robbers.

Originally posted by Placidity
I disagree with this. While Hancock is pretty fast, the Twilight gang have superspeed of their own, even if not as fast, they'd still be able to see him, Hancock ain't no Smallville. My opinion of course.

wat?

Hancock is hyper sonic dude =|

No being in Twilight has ever moved nearly half as fast as Hancock is.

Hancock, no rly, rips most of the vampires apart before they even have the slightest idea what's going on.

Originally posted by KingD19
They are fast, but not compared to Hancock. That's like an olympic runner being fast, but then he goes up against Lestat.

Hancock casually broke the sound barrier, went fast enough to break Earth's atmosphere and head into space. And he was fast enough to paint the All-Heart logo on the moon before anyone noticed.

On top of that during the bank robbery he was moving so fast he was invisible to the robbers.

That's apples to oranges.



Flying really fast is not the same as H2H combat speed.


To make this make more sense:

I can certainly swing my arm in a punching motion MUCH faster than I could move it left and right, up and down, in a rapid motion. To put this into perspective: have 3 dudes line up with automatic paintball guns about 25 yards away. If you could move your arms, left and right, up and down, as fast as you could punch your arm in a near linear motion, you could move them both fast enough to catch all of the balls that are shot at you. However, you can't. You mind just cannot keep up with. Sure, you can move your arms fast enough, but your mind can't track the projectiles and your body react to it fast enough.


This is the same with flying in a straight line as fast as you can versus moving about in a H2H fight: sure, he may be able to propel his body fast enough but his mind was never shown to be even remotely close to the perception of the Twivamps.





However, do NOT mistake what I said about as indicating my support for the Twivamps.


I think this is a stalemate. There's just no way for the Twivamps to kill Hancock: only a KO or debilitation of Hancock.



I honestly do not believe that the teeth of the vampires is near enough to hurt Hancock and a Nuke certainly will not take him out. Even if Alec blinds him and Jane hurts him...all that does is cripple him...but they still do not kill him.

Twivamps can't hurt him but he can hurt them. Hancock in a stomp imo.

Hancock in a stomp. Twivamps might be able to slow him down a bit but they wouldn't be able to stop their own impending doom.

"If you don't give yourselves up quietly, I swear to Christ, your head is going up the driver's ass, his head is going up your ass, and you drew the short stick, cause your head is going up my ass!"

Just picture it being said to Twivamps instead...

Originally posted by Flameback
Hancock in a stomp. Twivamps might be able to slow him down a bit but they wouldn't be able to stop their own impending doom.

"If you don't give yourselves up quietly, I swear to Christ, your head is going up the driver's ass, his head is going up your ass, and you drew the short stick, cause your head is going up my ass!"

Just picture it being said to Twivamps instead...

The problem is...it's at best, a stale-mate. The twivamps have players on their side that can completely null the senses...like...all five. (Alec.)

I think it's a silly match-up and people like Jane, Alec, and Renata should be removed from the thread. That way, we have a winner.


Wait, Hancock may still be able to win but it requires knowledge of the other side.



He could just throw a really large object at them from several miles away: right outside the range of Edward's "thought" sensing. I don't know how Alice's precog will affect things, however...she pretty much showed that her precog works so specifically that she can make elaborate plans to change the outcomes of very complex events...so that tactic may not work.


What do you guys think about my "winning" strategy? Will it work even with Alice in play? He could certainly take out Jane and Alec that way: just throw a giant bomb or fuel tanker at them or something...but he has to do it outside the range of Edward.



But, that still does not account of Renata. How does he attack Aro-Renata combo? If he tries to, he will stop and forget that he was attacking them.








How does he get around that?

Originally posted by dadudemon
The problem is...it's at best, a stale-mate. The twivamps have players on their side that can completely null the senses...like...all five. (Alec.)

I think it's a silly match-up and people like Jane, Alec, and Renata should be removed from the thread. That way, we have a winner.


Wait, Hancock may still be able to win but it requires knowledge of the other side.



He could just throw a really large object at them from several miles away: right outside the range of Edward's "thought" sensing. I don't know how Alice's precog will affect things, however...she pretty much showed that her precog works so specifically that she can make elaborate plans to change the outcomes of very complex events...so that tactic may not work.


What do you guys think about my "winning" strategy? Will it work even with Alice in play? He could certainly take out Jane and Alec that way: just throw a giant bomb or fuel tanker at them or something...but he has to do it outside the range of Edward.



But, that still does not account of Renata. How does he attack Aro-Renata combo? If he tries to, he will stop and forget that he was attacking them.








How does he get around that?


He flies into them at hyper sonic speeds, ripping them apart, all the whilst they can't see him or do anything.

The End

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
He flies into them at hyper sonic speeds, ripping them apart, all the whilst they can't see him or do anything.

The End


But, see, Alice sees that far in advance and they go underground. The end.

That, plus they can see him.

Plus hiding counts as disqualification, if im right. Burrowing underground counts as hiding.


No way they can stop Hancock from just flying to get a meteoroid and killing them with it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But, see, Alice sees that far in advance and they go underground. The end.
That would at best count as a stalemate and at worse as a self-bfr.

Originally posted by Pwned
Plus hiding counts as disqualification, if im right. Burrowing underground counts as hiding.


No way they can stop Hancock from just flying to get a meteoroid and killing them with it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That would at best count as a stalemate and at worse as a self-bfr.


Sorry, you can't invent rules 2 pages into the thread.

If Hancock can start at several miles away so he can build up speed to hypersonic speed in addition to trying to keep himself out of their view, then he "ringed out".

Digging into the ground 20-100 feet is definitely not a ring out. That's ring in. There's also no "ring-out" rule stipulated in the OP. If you want to script the threads, guys, I can do the same thing. Just because I'm better at it, doesn't mean you can randomly create rules to try and disqualify one side.

I know it's frustrating that the Twivamps have special "gifts" that make what seems to be an obvious fight a "landslide victory" but that sh*t happens and you have to...get this...sometimes change your mind on how a fight would occur.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The problem is...it's at best, a stale-mate. The twivamps have players on their side that can completely null the senses...like...all five. (Alec.)


Hancock is a functioning alcoholic, he's used to doing shit with all 5 senses pissed away. /next

It's a forum rule that if someone can only survive a forum battle by running away then they obviously lose actually. Which is what you're scripting here. Though I'm curious as to what going underground will do to help them win. At least it'll stop the gayass sparkles.

I also don't see them surviving a speed-blitz.

When Alec and Renata do anything this might be a fairer fight. As it stands, Twilight has Jane and to lesser extents, Alice and Jasper. Handcock will kill the rest of them.

Then again he can't technically burn them can he?

He doesn't need to. He can just throw them into orbit (after incapacitating them if need be).

Suppose that could work.

Or he could loot Edward for his magic matches.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's a forum rule that if someone can only survive a forum battle by running away then they obviously lose actually.

No it's not. That may be true in other forums, but not here. The thread starter has to specify. Go check out the rules.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which is what you're scripting here.

Not I'm not.

What was scripted is Hancock leaving, and coming back at hypersonic speeds so he can net a victory. That completely ignores the vampires being able to avoid him, completely, by going underground. When he passes, they can go anywhere they want. This was supposed to be a spite thread but turned out to be another thread that gets turned on it's head: the thread is, at best, a stale-mate: Hancock cannot kill some of the vampires.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Though I'm curious as to what going underground will do to help them win. At least it'll stop the gayass sparkles.

To avoid Hancock flying at them at really fast speeds, obviously. He's not telepathic and he does not have, from what I can remember, ultra-senses. He's just a very durable, very strong character with the ability to fly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I also don't see them surviving a speed-blitz.

Nor do I.


Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
When Alec and Renata do anything this might be a fairer fight. As it stands, Twilight has Jane and to lesser extents, Alice and Jasper. Handcock will kill the rest of them.

Then again he can't technically burn them can he?

Fair enough, but isn't that just post-poning the thread's results?

There's several threads I can revive with twivamps in them, after Breaking Dawn comes out.


Originally posted by Nephthys
He doesn't need to. He can just throw them into orbit (after incapacitating them if need be).

They do not need to breath. He'd be better off ripping them apart if he can get his hands on them.

My understanding was the the BFR rules applied throughout KMC. Impediment himself advocated for its use in one of the Harry Potter threads (where a wizard could only survive by apparating away).



Why does he have to leave exactly? Any scenes which imply he needs significant time to accelerate in the movie?



How fast do you think they can dig? What makes you think they can dig huge holes before he just blitzes them? If need be he can just plow into the holes and tear them to pieces in there.



And Hancock, being retarded, will not notice the giant mole-hillsin the middle of the huge open field, right?



How so?



That still doesn't explain how they win. They have no way to hurt him, whereas all he needs to do is follow them into these tunnels they pulled out of hammerspace.



He will still have won the fight since they can't do shit in a vacuum, but if you really want to be pedantic about it then he punts them back to earth and they burn up in re-entry. Or they starve from lack of blood. Twivamps still need blood right, Meyer didn't butcher that too did she?

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Originally posted by Nephthys
My understanding was the the BFR rules applied throughout KMC. Impediment himself advocated for its use in one of the Harry Potter threads (where a wizard could only survive by apparating away).

It's not an official rule in the MVF. Unless ruled by Imp. as applicable or if the thread starter indicates, it doesn't apply.

In this case, moving 25-100 feet is not BFR, at all, especially for really fast characters like Twivamps and Hancock.

And, out of ring for the Wizards was not really BFR: it's gimping them to try and net a win. However, the Wizards do NOT need to teleport all the way around the world, which is why Imp ruled that as BFRing. They only need to apparate out of sight.

There's a such thing as a tactical retreat in war. It could be trap, it could be to avoid a specific attack. It could be to actually attack the other person. All of those equally apply in this thread.


But how is Hancock needing to fly out several miles so he can reach hypersonic speeds, not BFRing? Isn't that an asymmetric application of rules?

Granted, I would like to see the Twivamps lose if they can, I prefer logic and reason to prevail as the reason. There's really no Twivamp fanboys in the MVF, which is good. I do not know of anyone that ever supported the Twivamps in unreasonable fashions.

In this thread, I have indicated that there's no way they can defeat Hancock and the result is most likely a stalemate because he cannot kill them all.


Originally posted by Nephthys
Why does he have to leave exactly? Any scenes which imply he needs significant time to accelerate in the movie?

Well, actually, I think you would need to provide a scene in which he instantly accelerates to hypersonic speeds.

Or at least accomplishes it in less than 2 seconds.

He can't do it instantly because that requires an infinite amount of energy. There will be an acceleration period.

Additionally, he was never shown speed blitzing from dozens of feet away by going into hypersonic fighting speedy mode. lol



Originally posted by Nephthys
How fast do you think they can dig? What makes you think they can dig huge holes before he just blitzes them? If need be he can just plow into the holes and tear them to pieces in there.

Since they are all well past the 100-ton class of marvel's measures, and they all are superhuman in speed especially through short areas, they could probably dig anywhere from 10-50 feet in one second.

Additionally, digging with their bare hands was my original intentions. I imagined Alice seeing the fight well-before it happens, tells the coven, and they prepare far in advance.

If that is not allowed then it's obviously a Gimp as very few movie characters can claim to have such complete precog as Alice. Alice's precog enables her to predict, the moment a decision is made, what will happen.

In other words, they started preparing before the thread was even typed.

Anyway, how can Hancock see them going at that speed when he was never shown doing that? He can't. In fact, he has almost human reaction times: he can barely be considered superhuman in reaction time. Watch his fight with Theron, again: normal reaction times are seen from both. Sure, they can fly fast, but that's not the ability to move very very quickly and use the slowed down time perspective to react that fast, like The Flash.



Originally posted by Nephthys
And Hancock, being retarded, will not notice the giant mole-hillsin the middle of the huge open field, right?

Well, since he's drunk, yeah, he'll be retarded.





Originally posted by Nephthys
How so?

I've explained that already.

Just to recap: Aro and Renata escape rape, always.

Alec is never touched.


Originally posted by Nephthys
That still doesn't explain how they win.

You kidding me? THEY CAN'T WIN! There is NO WAY THE VAMPIRES CAN WIN EVER!

If you think I'm making that up, go back and read my posts in the thread. I NEVER thought they could win. This is obviously a spit thread.


Originally posted by Nephthys
They have no way to hurt him, whereas all he needs to do is follow them into these tunnels they pulled out of hammerspace.




Nah. They can easily cover their tracks and make it impossible to find them in the holes. Since he does not have ESP, it would be like you or I trying to find them...without the strength.




Originally posted by Nephthys
He will still have won the fight since they can't do shit in a vacuum, but if you really want to be pedantic about it then he punts them back to earth and they burn up in re-entry. Or they starve from lack of blood. Twivamps still need blood right, Meyer didn't butcher that too did she?

Well, I COULD say the Benjamin spontaneously combusts Hancock because he's ...you know...like the Avatar.


There's also the problem of him not ever being able to touch them. He's not fast enough. I've explained that, already, as well.


Hancock cannot kill all of the twivamps, so he can never win but the Twivamps CAN NEVER KILLER HIM so they don't win, either. At best, it's a war of attrition with the few vampires left alive.


I don't see this thread with a winner, but the Twivamps literally can never win.



Originally posted by Nephthys
Nice.

Multiple tabs effed my whole system up.

So I decided to edit and have my period THRICE!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Fair enough, but isn't that just post-poning the thread's results?

There's several threads I can revive with twivamps in them, after Breaking Dawn comes out.

Not at the moment. Since people who've only watched the movies are unfamiliar with Alec's ability, along with any other unseen ones so far, it doesn't matter. Movies need to have the feats and at the moment they don't.

Originally posted by dadudemon

In this thread, I have indicated that there's no way they can defeat Hancock and the result is most likely a stalemate because he cannot kill them all.



Twilight vampires may be able to run at a thousands of MPH, but they don't fight that way, as seen with their fights with the wolves. Same goes for Hancock, his flight speed is likely WAY up there, but he's no speed-brawler, as seen in his fight with the white-girl. So if the only way the vampires can win here is by running away/around for a stalemate, then logic dictates Hancock is the victor.

In a match where one side literally has no way of winning and the other does, it's logical to give the victory to the one with a chance, no matter how slight. This has been an unwritten rule for some time in here.

Hancock broke the sound barrier within 3-5 seconds when he flew off that bench.

He moved so fast in the bank that no one could see him, he just left gusts of wind when he took out a robber. Considering that he was moving that fast and was accurate enough to take out each individual robber, it's safe to say his perception keeps up with his speed.

He's fast enough to speed-blitz, and there's nothing they can do really.

Originally posted by KingD19
Hancock broke the sound barrier within 3-5 seconds when he flew off that bench.

He moved so fast in the bank that no one could see him, he just left gusts of wind when he took out a robber. Considering that he was moving that fast and was accurate enough to take out each individual robber, it's safe to say his perception keeps up with his speed.

He's fast enough to speed-blitz, and there's nothing they can do really.

I still don't know how you guys figured out he was going hyper sonic. Not saying he didn't, but I just want to know how you guys know.

No one has said Hancock isn't fast. He just won't be so fast that he is invisible to the Vampires. Their speed and perception is far greater than the humans at the bank. And if they can see him and react, Hancock gets incapacitated.

Theres a case to be made that his reflexes aren't that fast. Aside from what DDM has said, he also couldn't just directly blitz the last guy with the dead man's switch, and then theres also the chocolate bar vs gun fight where he wasn't quick enough (weird scene though that). Moot point though considering the above.

He goes to the moon. Escape velocity is 34 times the speed of sound, Mach 34. Hypersonic speed is anything over Mach 5.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He goes to the moon. Escape velocity is 34 times the speed of sound, Mach 34. Hypersonic speed is anything over Mach 5.

Hahaha, yea I remember reading that argument before.

It doesn't work, as in thats not how escape velocity works, it doesn't apply to Hancock. sorry

Any other evidence for saying he is hypersonic then?

The chocolate bar v gun scene can't be counted because he was incredibly weakened by that time. Earlier in the movie he was eating 50.cal rounds and swatting away rockets....and then a .38 sends him to the hospital. Theron had weakened him to barely more than a human with enhanced strength.

And how fast would he have to be to fly to the moon, paint the All-Heart logo over one entire side, and then be back in New York/California(Can't remember where he moved) before calling Ray and telling him to look up...and keep in mind no one had noticed the logo yet.

Originally posted by Placidity
Hahaha, yea I remember reading that argument before.

It doesn't work, as in thats not how escape velocity works, it doesn't apply to Hancock. sorry

Any other evidence for saying he is hypersonic then?

He went to the Moon and painted it with a heart before anyone could actually notice?

And keep in mind that the moon is really, really far away.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
He went to the Moon and painted it with a heart before anyone could actually notice?

And keep in mind that the moon is really, really far away.

We don't know how long that took. Plus its not always a full moon. And thats not really a serious feat... I mean I'm sure the writers just put it in there for fun, without giving any thought to Hancock having to do it really fast etc.

I mean if there were other feats in the movie that suggest he is capable of such speeds, then its all good, but just relying on this alone? Its pretty weak imho.

Originally posted by KingD19
The chocolate bar v gun scene can't be counted because he was incredibly weakened by that time. Earlier in the movie he was eating 50.cal rounds and swatting away rockets....and then a .38 sends him to the hospital. Theron had weakened him to barely more than a human with enhanced strength.


Well, thats why I said it was a weird scene:

1. He is strong enough to throw a chocolate bar with enough force to send the thug flying and through the wall.

2. His durability reduces to human levels.

Doesn't that strike you as odd? I felt that his levels were meant to be reducing over time. Whereas that scene, when he throws the bar, he still has considerable power, but then immediately after (or at the same time really) his durability is reduced to nothing.

Originally posted by Placidity
We don't know how long that took. Plus its not always a full moon. And thats not really a serious feat... I mean I'm sure the writers just put it in there for fun, without giving any thought to Hancock having to do it really fast etc.

I mean if there were other feats in the movie that suggest he is capable of such speeds, then its all good, but just relying on this alone? Its pretty weak imho.

It was quick enough so that every human being on Earth didn't notice a giant heart on the moon. So, prolly before the sun set. And no, dun care how much you bawwww about it, it's a feat.

Like how he's a superhero? And how throughout the movie, he's casually uses his powers to stupid extents?

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
It was quick enough so that every human being on Earth didn't notice a giant heart on the moon. So, prolly before the sun set. And no, dun care how much you bawwww about it, it's a feat.


Ok then if you aren't interested in an honest debate. See, now I know.

Still doesn't mean Twivamps won't see him, so if you could please prove that, then you will be winning, like Charlie Sheen.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer

Like how he's a superhero? And how throughout the movie, he's casually uses his powers to stupid extents?

Thats not proof of anything. Thats a bit hypocritical given your above statement.

Originally posted by Placidity
Ok then if you aren't interested in an honest debate. See, now I know.

Still doesn't mean Twivamps won't see him, so if you could please prove that, then you will be winning, like Charlie Sheen.



Thats not proof of anything. Thats a bit hypocritical given your above statement.


Uh, when exactly have Twivamps be shown reacting to hypersonic speeds =|

Not really, you're claiming the speed feat isn't consistent with the rest of the movie, but considering how he was generally acting lazy and casual throughout most of the film, and was still showing impressive feats, would consider the feat consistent.

Originally posted by Robtard
Twilight vampires may be able to run at a thousands of MPH, but they don't fight that way, as seen with their fights with the wolves. Same goes for Hancock, his flight speed is likely WAY up there, but he's no speed-brawler, as seen in his fight with the white-girl. So if the only way the vampires can win here is by running away/around for a stalemate, then logic dictates Hancock is the victor.

In a match where one side literally has no way of winning and the other does, it's logical to give the victory to the one with a chance, no matter how slight. This has been an unwritten rule for some time in here.


I don't think the vampires can win this thread, ever. But there's also vampires that Hancock will never be able to kill because of their "special" gifts.

Meaning, no one can actually win this thread.


But, FA wants to say that those other vampires' powers don't count until the movie comes out. So I'll revive about a dozen threads when Breaking Dawn comes out.

Originally posted by dadudemon


But, FA wants to say that those other vampires' powers don't count until the movie comes out. So I'll revive about a dozen threads when Breaking Dawn comes out.


Jane's count. Coupled with the fact she has sufficient reflexes, thats enough for me.

Originally posted by Placidity
Jane's count. Coupled with the fact she has sufficient reflexes, thats enough for me.

I supose. But isn't there a way for him to avoid her "sight" and still smash her to bits?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I supose. But isn't there a way for him to avoid her "sight" and still smash her to bits?

Well, thats assuming he knows whats up with the Vampires. OP doesn't say they are aware of each others powers.

So theres no reason for Hancock to blitz her from the get-go (even if he did her mind is fast enough to react IMO, although I will entertain the idea that she is caught off-guard by his speed). There are many targets on the battlefield, thats ALL Vampires and Werewolves from Twilight. Wolves will probably engage first.

Arguing from the other side, the Vampires/Werewolves will think they can take him down no problemo, some will get torn apart when they try and tango with him, but Jane will use her powers on him, and he won't know to avoid her.

And as Rob said, Hancock will fight like the way he fought Mary.

Hancock CIS off/full potential AND awareness of enemy abilities? He would take it easily. In this battle, I don't think so.

I'd pay gold to watch hancock shove Bella's head up Edward's ass.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I'd pay gold to watch hancock shove Bella's head up Edward's ass.

Bella's head would turn to goo in the process because his buttcheeks are too hard.


Also, if he tried to shove a vampire Bella's head up Edward's ass, Edward's ass would crack off his crack...his two little rump roasts would break right off.

LOL if you really think twilight vamps have any chance i suggest you go watch hancock

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
LOL if you really think twilight vamps have any chance i suggest you go watch hancock

Who are you talking to?

anybody who thinks twilight vamps have a chance

Originally posted by Robtard
But as it pertains to the thread, Edward will get what he's always dreamed about, short-shorts boy's wolf-head up his vampire ass.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/WatchOut_02/edward-is-in-narnia.jpg

Yeah no way a bunch of blood suckers are going to take down hancock. He can decapitate a person with a punch.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Yeah no way a bunch of blood suckers are going to take down hancock. He can decapitate a person with a punch.

Wrong my friend, he can decapitate a person by flicking a booger at their forehead.

His skin's still flexible numbnuts, it's as hard as granite, not as unyielding.

Originally posted by Nephthys
His skin's still flexible numbnuts, it's as hard as granite, not as unyielding.


No, it's just as hard as I described.

The movies are going to have a hard time showing the times when Bella kisses edward and she describes it in the books a "kissing cold stone". How are they supposed to show his flesh as completely unyielding to a meatbag while trying to get 13-year olds to sigh with their moms?

Everything about him was hard as a rock, to Bella, before the
change to a vampire. It was only after the change that Bella could feel the "softness" of the "flexible" stone.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/WatchOut_02/edward-is-in-narnia.jpg


Hahahahaa

Hancock has the actual visual effect of breaking the sound barrier, he does not need to build up speed, he goes from zero to max pretty much instantly when he needs to IIRC.

And yes, escape velocity does apply to him. So at the very least he is Mach 34...but in truth he's far faster than that.

After he carved the hearts logo on the moon (before anyone noticed and thus it would require immense mental processing speeds/reaction time) he came back to Earth in very same night. The way he made it sound, it was all done in mere minutes too--the carving and the travel back.

At Mach 34, it would take him roughly 9 hours to get back, and it did not take him anywhere close to that.