Breast feeding in public

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ADarksideJedi
It seems that everytime I watch the news there is always something going on making this a big issue.I for one has no promblems with it being that I had seen it done in the cafe I work at.But others think it is wrong and should be againist the law.What do you think?

The Nuul
Its all over youtube.

Its fine imo, as long as its covered.

inimalist
I have no issues, but I generally don't have issues with public nudity either

King Castle
i have a problem with selective enforcement of the law and what one considers lewd, indecent exposure or even a sex crime...

so if a woman can breast feed in public which i dont thing they should, it should also change what constitutes a sex crime/sex offender

inimalist
why shouldn't they? who the hell cares if a woman slips a nip? especially considering they are feeding an infant child. if you find that lewd, you might do better in a culture like Saudi Arabia

Omega Vision
I think so long as they're discrete about it there's no problem, done right a woman can nurse a baby without giving anyone a peek.

The Nuul
Its a free country, they should be able to breast feed in the public. Hell, people should be allowed to have sex in the public.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by The Nuul
Its a free country, they should be able to breast feed in the public. Hell, people should be allowed to have sex in the public.
This is America, we have sex on top of prisons in the flick-flick-flickering light:
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Mindship
Breasts eat?

I don't mind if they're used to feed babies, even in public.

Deja~vu
It's a totally natural thing to feed a baby. You feed them when they're hungry that's just the way it is and to make it some dirty thing doesn't make sense. But as usual there are people out there that just love to knit pick. Maybe they are the pervs...

King Castle
you know i agree.

problem is that what is okay for one particular group is not okay for another who may perform a similar act minus the baby even it is natural biological process.

Deja~vu
A particular group that does a simular act??? What are you saying? What other groups does that?? An adult man and women??

inimalist
/meh

in canada women can go topless, no double standards here

Rhovanion
Outlawing public breast feeding is not only ridiculous but you're also depriving infants of food when they need it. It shouldn't even be an issue.

But I guess this is so foreign to me because I'm from a country (Sweden) where you can see full frontal nudity on day time (and prime time) TV.

Quiero Mota
Originally posted by Deja~vu
It's a totally natural thing to feed a baby.

So's jacking off and taking a piss, but I don't wanna see some fool whipping his johnson out while I'm trying to order some food.

King Castle
Originally posted by inimalist
/meh

in canada women can go topless, no double standards here i'm sold. *packing bags now*

inimalist
Originally posted by King Castle
i'm sold. *packing bags now*

astonishingly, except for the occasional times on beaches, women really don't walk around topless

actually, wait a second, thats not surprising at all...

but ya, Canada rocks

King Castle
Originally posted by inimalist
astonishingly, except for the occasional times on beaches, women really don't walk around topless

actually, wait a second, thats not surprising at all...

but ya, Canada rocks they have "Rocks" too blink

how much are grams?

definitely making arrangements

you know college kids and others get labels as sex offender for getting caught urinating/defecating regardless of the biological need to go.


i abhor double standard period probably why i hate the system so much.

Quiero Mota
Originally posted by King Castle
you know college kids and others get labels as sex offender for getting caught urinating/defecating regardless of the biological need to go.


In 1997 I was cuffed in Las Vegas for peeing in public, in The Luxor parking lot. I was calm and respectful, and I wasn't that drunk, so the officer let me go with just a verbal scolding. My then-wife, however, caused a scene and was giving the cop all kinds of attitude. She was telling him things like "Why are you hassling him, go get the real badguys. There's killers and rapists out there...etc". And our friend and his wife were so shitfaced they were staggering, in fact, he had vomit on his pants and could barely stand. I was afraid I'd be taken down to the station, simply due to guilt by association.

So it really depends on the jurisdiction, and the individual officer's discretion. Vegas Metro has always been pretty chill though; they're among the more laid back cops I've dealt with. But don't piss in public in AZ; first time offenders must register as Level 1 Sex-Offenders. No jokes.

inimalist
god, arizona is the new kansas

King Castle
nah, they do it everywhere especially college campuses... to try and stop it by labeling and ruining young peoples lives and making it hard to stay in college or even get good jobs.

hell, many college refuse certain students b/c of criminal records.

siriuswriter
Usually, if someone in in a person's area is doing something along these lines, it's just kind of done to purposely ignore it. At least those are the mores I grew up with.

Mindset
Personally, I'd like to see more bare breast in public.

dadudemon
Animalia
Chordata
Mammalia
Primates
Hominidae
Homo
sapiens (H. s. sapiens is widely accepted as the proper taxinomic classification.)


My argument: we are mammals. Our young grow and mature from breast milk. The interjection of a MODERN idea that breastfeeding is some how wrong outside of the home, is just that: a modern idea.

Not only is it objectively wrong, it is even sillier than the idea that a human is magically ready to breed on their 18th birthday.

Additionally, the peeing and j.off in public is an apples to oranges comparison: it is unsanitary to deficate and urinate in "common" areas and food areas. I remember reading the work of one anthropologist that tracked the destruction of an early human tribe that most likely killed itself off by defacating and urinating in the same areas as thei dwellings: obviously, there is a biological need to keep those in areas separate of the "common" area. Again, a wholly objective conclusion. Nothing about that smacks of "Victorian" conservatism.

J.off in public is not quite the same as breastfeeding, either, however, one could make quite an objective case that doing that is not harmful to others occupying the "common areas." For obviously reasons, it is considered indecent to others, but that is almost entirely subjective. I have never read about their being a genetic reason humans want to keep sexual things away from stranger's eyes. However, it is common across many cultures so there very well may be a genetic reason we try to remain "private."

Finally, I see a very healthy compromise: covering up. However, that is not always a decent option while breastfeeding. Sometimes, it is very hot and that can make the baby and the mother worse-off. Sometimes, babies do not like to be covered, either...and they do not have the intellectual capacity to be reasoned with to a "cover up" compromise. Let's make it quite clear that the anti-public breastfeeders are both discriminating and being sexist.

I believe that there should be a fine for the appalling discrimination and sexism associated with public-breastfeeding. In fact, some countries DO have fines for those that try to discriminate. smile It is only a matter of time before the old opressions of yesteryear are eliminated from most cultures.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by dadudemon
It is only a matter of time before the old opressions of yesteryear are eliminated from most cultures. "Mr. Burns reign of terror is over! And today begins my reign of terrr..-iffic management!"

Darth Piggott
Originally posted by Mindset
Personally, I'd like to see more bare breast in public. thumb up

King Castle
do babies not get better nutritional value from baby formula than actual breast milk?

ADarksideJedi
I was told that breast feeding a baby is suppose to be better then bottle feeding them.I am also surprise that family guy or American Dad did not do any show on it since they always do on things that are going on!

Deja~vu
It's the same here in Michgan. Outside pissers are now sex offenders. Wow

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by dadudemon
Additionally, the peeing and j.off in public is an apples to oranges comparison: it is unsanitary to deficate and urinate in "common" areas and food areas. I remember reading the work of one anthropologist that tracked the destruction of an early human tribe that most likely killed itself off by defacating and urinating in the same areas as thei dwellings: obviously, there is a biological need to keep those in areas separate of the "common" area. Again, a wholly objective conclusion. Nothing about that smacks of "Victorian" conservatism.

We're not an early human tribe, though. All people have to do is bring baggies and sanity wipes with them when they travel. In fact defecating is more natural than breastfeeding (I'm told that everybody poops) so by the "it's natural argument" it should be even more valid of a thing to do.

The Nuul
Originally posted by Mindset
Personally, I'd like to see more bare breast in public.

If Men can do it, why cant Woman within a age limit.

RE: Blaxican
Because Men rule the world? Perks come with the job.

-glances at Bardock-

inimalist
Originally posted by King Castle
do babies not get better nutritional value from baby formula than actual breast milk?

depends. in terms of like nutrients, sure, it might be better, but breastmilk has lots of antibodies and other things we can't synthesize.

the boost you get from nutrients probably doesn't make up for the lack of antibodies, and kids do just fine with breastmilk

Omega Vision
Originally posted by King Castle
do babies not get better nutritional value from baby formula than actual breast milk?
Not from what I've heard. AFAIK there's no formula on the market that can totally replace a mother's breast milk.

Darth Jello
Originally posted by The Nuul
If Men can do it, why cant Woman within a age limit.

On the one hand because they're extremely sexually arousing. On the other hand, revealing legs and belly buttons was once banned or frowned upon in western society for the same reason. I dunno. I think it may ruin the tantalizing aspects of love and sexual attraction if we reach an age where the only mysterious parts of a woman are labia and anuses. I mean Kelly Brook just did a spread where you could see her clit in a non-porno mag!

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Darth Jello
On the one hand because they're extremely sexually arousing. On the other hand, revealing legs and belly buttons was once banned or frowned upon in western society for the same reason. I dunno. I think it may ruin the tantalizing aspects of love and sexual attraction if we reach an age where the only mysterious parts of a woman are labia and anuses. I mean Kelly Brook just did a spread where you could see her clit in a non-porno mag!
I heard a story that table skirts were invented during the Victorian Era because at that time it was believed that a woman's bare leg was so arousing that even things that sort of looked like a woman's leg (like a table leg) would drive men to sexual frenzy.

inimalist
what is mysterious about labia and anus?

Mindship
Originally posted by Darth Jello
On the one hand because they're extremely sexually arousing. On the other hand, revealing legs and belly buttons was once banned or frowned upon in western society for the same reason. I dunno. I think it may ruin the tantalizing aspects of love and sexual attraction if we reach an age where the only mysterious parts of a woman are labia and anuses. I mean Kelly Brook just did a spread where you could see her clit in a non-porno mag! In our sexually obsessive modern culture, we confuse attractive with attracting.

Darth Jello
Originally posted by Mindship
In our sexually obsessive modern culture, we confuse attractive with attracting. Hasn't that always been the case though?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by inimalist
what is mysterious about labia and anus?

Something must be hidden within. Could it be candy?

Bicnarok
No problems with it, its natural and rather have some women with her breast out than a screaming hungry baby.

Mindship
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Hasn't that always been the case though? Perhaps on an individual or local basis. But I would think, not one a mass scale, if for no other reason than we never had such mediability til now (then again, I wasn't around in ancient Rome).

It's like we have something to prove.

Quiero Mota
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I heard a story that table skirts were invented during the Victorian Era because at that time it was believed that a woman's bare leg was so arousing that even things that sort of looked like a woman's leg (like a table leg) would drive men to sexual frenzy.

That's a true story. During that era, the legs of big fancy dinnertables were intentionally made with curves and a bend in the middle that resembled a knee.

Also, the vibrator was the world's first electronic invention, because Victorian doctors thought that a woman having a libido was a form of mental illness. That it indicated some kind of psychosis.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
We're not an early human tribe, though. All people have to do is bring baggies and sanity wipes with them when they travel. In fact defecating is more natural than breastfeeding (I'm told that everybody poops) so by the "it's natural argument" it should be even more valid of a thing to do.

I am not entirely sure you read my whole post because he seems like you missed a major point in me bringing that up.

ADarksideJedi
Originally posted by Bicnarok
No problems with it, its natural and rather have some women with her breast out than a screaming hungry baby.

I like that point! laughing

kevdude
Yeah I don't feel nothing wrong with it as long as shes covered.

Bardock42
I was going to say this Originally posted by inimalist
I have no issues, but I generally don't have issues with public nudity either

but then inimalist had already.



However, I am not sure when the issue is about breastfeeding in stores or restaurants, non publicly owned places, I think perhaps the owners of an establishment should be allowed to ban breastfeeding and nudity on their premises.

Bardock42
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Because Men rule the world? Perks come with the job.

-glances at Bardock-

Man, if I ruled the world I wish perky breasts came with the job

ADarksideJedi
I meant all places public resturants and so on.

King Castle
no. i disagree with women feeding at restaurant or other place like that. i can understand public areas but not where i am paying for service in a descent or high class area

dadudemon
Originally posted by King Castle
no. i disagree with women feeding at restaurant or other place like that. i can understand public areas but not where i am paying for service in a descent or high class area

I take it strip-clubs are not your cup of tea?

Quiero Mota
Originally posted by dadudemon
I take it strip-clubs are not your cup of tea?

"High class" being the operative term.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
"High class" being the operative term.

AHA! laughing


Edit- Wait, I get what you're saying, now. There is a such thing as a "high-class" strip club. You know that, right?

Quiero Mota
I know, I was once a valet at one. Those guys would slide me a 50 just for parking their cars.

But going off what King Castle said; why would a woman who's nursing even be at a gentleman's club in the first place?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know, I was once a valet at one. Those guys would slide me a 50 just for parking their cars.

But going off what King Castle said; why would a woman who's nursing even be at a gentleman's club in the first place?

Lactation fetishism.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know, I was once a valet at one. Those guys would slide me a 50 just for parking their cars.

But going off what King Castle said; why would a woman who's nursing even be at a gentleman's club in the first place?

Cause she got to feed her kids? DON'T BE SO JUDGMENTAL, ESE!

Quiero Mota

dadudemon
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But going off what King Castle said; why would a woman who's nursing even be at a gentleman's club in the first place?

'Cause it was a joke to KC about him not wanting to see bewbz implying that he doesn't like bewbz, implying that he's gay or asexual. OBVIOUSLY, he's not gay, OBVIOUSLY, he loves himself some bewbz just like any other dude I know that posts on KMC (he may have RJ beat, in that regard big grin ). That's where the joke comes in.*


Jokes are always funnier if they are not explained. sad


*It's like people whining that gay-marriage will tear the fabric of marriage. It's retarded because no gay would tear fabric. no

King Castle
Originally posted by dadudemon
'Cause it was a joke to KC about him not wanting to see bewbz implying that he doesn't like bewbz, implying that he's gay or asexual. OBVIOUSLY, he's not gay, OBVIOUSLY, he loves himself some bewbz just like any other dude I know that posts on KMC (he may have RJ beat, in that regard big grin ). That's where the joke comes in.*


Jokes are always funnier if they are not explained. sad


*It's like people whining that gay-marriage will tear the fabric of marriage. It's retarded because no gay would tear fabric. no gayism is an abstract force that effects all of reality. if it is allowed to go unchallenged the universe will fall apart into a super blackhole and it will be all the gays faults.

at least that is what i have heard and why people fight so hard to keep same sex marriages apart.

inimalist
Originally posted by dadudemon
It's retarded because no gay would tear fabric. no

you aren't taking into account the destructive power of a hissy fit

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