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Hellfire Club
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Sebastian Shaw
Emma Frost
Selene
Magneto
Storm
Madelyne Pryor
Sunspot

vs

Villains
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Loki
Ultron
Graviton
Kang
Count Neferia
WonderMan
Absorbing Man

No bfr, who wins?

Avenger Villains

Hmm Goblyn Force Maddie?

Don't know why Sunspot is there, Blackheart and Daimon Hellstrom were with the HC they would be better as a counter to Loki since Selene doesn't really have the feats to back her magic powers up...she has been stated to be a rival of Kulan Gath but she hasn't really shown anything on panel. Only that one time when she ascended to Goddesshood.

Loki, Kang and Ultron would be enough for all those. Heck, in a good day Ultron solos.

Originally posted by Bentley
Loki, Kang and Ultron would be enough for all those. Heck, in a good day Ultron solos.
I would think most of those villains - Ultron, Graviton, Kang, Count Nefaria, and Absorbing Man - could solo on a good day.

Ultron and Loki have what it takes. Kang in a best level showing also. Graviton and Count Nefaria would depend on what level they are at, for example Thunderbolts Graviton could surely solo while New Avengers Nefaria surely wouldn't. Absorbing Man has the power but is too dumb in general.

But put the villains together - they will win this.

The real threats on the Club side are Emma, Magneto and Selene, which just isn't enough.

EDIT then.

Add Blackheart and Hellstrom to make it more even.

Originally posted by basilisk
I would think most of those villains - Ultron, Graviton, Kang, Count Nefaria, and Absorbing Man - could solo on a good day.

Ultron and Loki have what it takes. Kang in a best level showing also. Graviton and Count Nefaria would depend on what level they are at, for example Thunderbolts Graviton could surely solo while New Avengers Nefaria surely wouldn't. Absorbing Man has the power but is too dumb in general.

But put the villains together - they will win this.

The real threats on the Club side are Emma, Magneto and Selene, which just isn't enough.


Yeah, now that you mention it, if you got enough mind-defenses and can take on Magneto you can beat that team.