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People go on about Jui Jitsu, but going to the ground in a street fight is not a good idea. I have learnt many styles Karate, Judo, Tai Kwon Do, Boxing, Jui Jitsu, Chinese Boxing, Muay Thai and I am an expert in them all and I believe Qigong is the best form. It makes me able withstand strikes on the chest with a baseball bat. My chi is so strong I can even deflect a blade without it cutting.

What do you think?

i think that you're delusional as fu<k

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think that you're delusional as fu<k /thread

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think that you're delusional as fu<k

Ah, grasshopper, you may think this but the glass to you is half empt to me; however, it is half full.

Originally posted by Martial Artist
People go on about Jui Jitsu, but going to the ground in a street fight is not a good idea. I have learnt many styles Karate, Judo, Tai Kwon Do, Boxing, Jui Jitsu, Chinese Boxing, Muay Thai and I am an expert in them all and I believe Qigong is the best form. It makes me able withstand strikes on the chest with a baseball bat. My chi is so strong I can even deflect a blade without it cutting.

What do you think?

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Originally posted by batdude123
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I am learning to channel my chi, I can almost put a candle out with it.

Originally posted by Martial Artist
I am learning to channel my chi, I can almost put a candle out with it.

You can't do that yet?

Damn breh, you need to step your game up.

Originally posted by batdude123
You can't do that yet?

Damn breh, you need to step your game up.

I have been training as hard as I can, I will try and do better. Like all superb martial artists on the internet and elsewhere I strive to be humble; although, I am awesome.

Originally posted by Martial Artist
I have been training as hard as I can, I will try and do better. Like all superb martial artists on the internet and elsewhere I strive to be humble; although, I am awesome.

Indeed.

And maybe some day you can be on my level, though I doubt it. Keep reaching for those stars.

Originally posted by batdude123
Indeed.

And maybe some day you can be on my level, though I doubt it. Keep reaching for those stars.

Anything is possible, what's your style BD?

Originally posted by Martial Artist
Anything is possible, what's your style BD?

Tiger, Crane, Praying Mantis, Muay Thai, Ninjitsu, Kyokushin, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Jeet Kun Do, Greco-Roman wrestling, and Hawaiian Kempo.

Originally posted by batdude123
Tiger, Crane, Praying Mantis, Muay Thai, Ninjitsu, Kyokushin, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Jeet Kun Do, Greco-Roman wrestling, and Hawaiian Kempo.

I thought it might be a rara skirt and pumps. night old pal

Originally posted by Martial Artist
I thought it might be a rara skirt and pumps. night old pal

Only on formal occasions.

Originally posted by Martial Artist
My chi is so strong I can even deflect a blade without it cutting.

test?

My chi is strong that I fired a Kamehameha that destroyed a continent, and I wasn't even tired.

Originally posted by batdude123
Tiger, Crane, Praying Mantis, Muay Thai, Ninjitsu, Kyokushin, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Jeet Kun Do, Greco-Roman wrestling, and Hawaiian Kempo.
Why do all those?

Mugen Tenshin is all you need.

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Originally posted by StyleTime
Why do all those?


I'm assuming he meant throughout his whole life.

I currently am only doing 4 (3 of which at the same school), but throughout the span of my life, I've tried/done upwards of 15, or so.

My chi sets off F3 tonadoes during allergy season. Kazedo (the Way of the Wind) ftw.

I just use guns.

Have yet to be defeated in the ring yet.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I'm assuming he meant throughout his whole life.

I currently am only doing 4 (3 of which at the same school), but throughout the span of my life, I've tried/done upwards of 15, or so.
I was joking. I think he was too.

Except about being a ninja.
Originally posted by Mindship
My chi sets off F3 tonadoes during allergy season. Kazedo (the Way of the Wind) ftw.
You are now my rival.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I just use guns.

Have yet to be defeated in the ring yet.
You've been fighting noobs. Bullets are no match for ki and ninja shenanigans.

Unless you're using Ninja Ki Guns.

Originally posted by Martial Artist
People go on about Jui Jitsu, but going to the ground in a street fight is not a good idea. I have learnt many styles Karate, Judo, Tai Kwon Do, Boxing, Jui Jitsu, Chinese Boxing, Muay Thai and I am an expert in them all and I believe Qigong is the best form. It makes me able withstand strikes on the chest with a baseball bat. My chi is so strong I can even deflect a blade without it cutting.

What do you think?

my thoughts exactly

oops double post. love internet

Originally posted by batdude123
Tiger, Crane, Praying Mantis, Muay Thai, Ninjitsu, Kyokushin, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Jeet Kun Do, Greco-Roman wrestling, and Hawaiian Kempo.
Are you Johnny Cage by chance?

S.C.A.R.S. self defense is supposed to be on par with Krav Maga, basically taking down/out your opponent as fast and efficiently as possible.

The US Navy SEALS use it.

Martial Artist my prodigy... hiiiiiiiiiyaaaa..... You are right these westerners will never understand true Martial Arts.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
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Nice find. I'm glad the guy was ok, but I can't help but feel like "what the **** did he think would happen?"

He says he's done it a thousand times before, so maybe he was just having an off day.

Iron Kung Fu vs. bladed weapons is ludicrous... for something so many people claim to be able to do, you'd think there would be actual, legitimate video footage of someone demonstrating it. The fact that there isn't, makes it almost certain that the technique does not really exist.

come to think of it, ninjutsu might be it. they follow the principles and discipline of a ninja. all about self discipline and self respect, never about fighting

Muay thai.

Originally posted by chipper7777
come to think of it, ninjutsu might be it. they follow the principles and discipline of a ninja. all about self discipline and self respect, never about fighting
I'm pretty sure ninjutsu was largely focused on violence.

A mixture off all.

Or a gun.

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Originally posted by StarCraft2
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You see I don't think it does on 'the street', It's just a way to make wrestlers feel like they do martial arts.

hm.. I've been practicing Vovinam Viet Vo Dao since I was 5 (btw,I'm 16 now) and I think this style is a great mixture of techniques (attack and defense- both weaponless and armed). it has helped me a lot, although i never got into a very dangerous street fight..but it really does as described on the internet

Originally posted by Stella Artois
You see I don't think it does on 'the street', It's just a way to make wrestlers feel like they do martial arts.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Iron Kung Fu vs. bladed weapons is ludicrous...for something so many people claim to be able to do, you'd think there would be actual, legitimate video footage of someone demonstrating it. The fact that there isn't, makes it almost certain that the technique does not really exist.

Oh really?

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That is pretty impressive, but its hardly on the level of what that Filipino guy was trying. That was done under very controlled conditions and preparation, and, anyway, provides no evidence of resistance to the actual kinds of attacks he could encounter.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Oh really?

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Parlor tricks. I would love to see what would happen if an impartial third party with some fallow through swung that bat.

You never get a very good angle on it but the traditional methods for that trick are using a rounded point and positioning yourself to take the force on flat of the blade. It's worth noting that the didn't throw the spear at him like the show with the watermelon or any other use of the spear outside of that one ancient trick. Have him get stabbed in the gut and walk away, then we'll talk about chi.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Parlor tricks. I would love to see what would happen if an impartial third party with some fallow through swung that bat.

Yeah, that made me laugh. They really glazed over the fact that the guy only hit the demonstrator half as hard.

Doesn't tell us much anyhow, Houdini could do the same thing without involving any chi.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You never get a very good angle on it but the traditional methods for that trick are using a rounded point and positioning yourself to take the force on flat of the blade. It's worth noting that the didn't throw the spear at him like the show with the watermelon or any other use of the spear outside of that one ancient trick. Have him get stabbed in the gut and walk away, then we'll talk about chi.


You just had to be that guy, didn't you. The one who's still shaking his head in denial, even after the prosecution has presented all evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. "Yeah, yeah, but I wanna see him do this, this, and that!". Really? C'mon man...

You're just grasping for straws in an attempt to show how unimpressed you are by a clearly incredible feat. That's the same kind of thing that habitual one-uppers do. I could always say this: Let's see you do that if you think its just smoke and mirrors. And if you don't have the spine to do it, then I rest my case.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah, that made me laugh. They really glazed over the fact that the guy only hit the demonstrator half as hard.

Doesn't tell us much anyhow, Houdini could do the same thing without involving any chi.

Now that's debatable. Houdini was killed by a punch to the abdoment...how lame is that? I've been in scraps and walked away with worse, and I'm still here breathing. So if he got bumped but such a petty manouver, its highly unlikely that he could take a blade to the throat with 2,900 PSI and walk away from it. More like he'd decapitate himself.

He was killed a punch for Christ's sake, and you're saying he could do what that Shaolin Monk did? Please. He was an escape artist, not a martial artist.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You just had to be that guy, didn't you. The one who's still shaking his head in denial, even after the prosecution has presented all evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. "Yeah, yeah, but I wanna see him do this, this, and that!". Really? C'mon man...

You're just grasping for straws in an attempt to show how unimpressed you are by a clearly incredible feat. That's the same kind of thing that habitual one-uppers do. I could always say this: Let's see you do that if you think its just smoke and mirrors. And if you don't have the spine to do it, then I rest my case.

I don't think SC is wrong, at all. The tip is rounded and he does support some of the force on his his clavicles with the flat portion of the blade.


Still, that's 2900 psi. Even if the blade slightly flattens and gives more support, that's a lot of force in a very small area. I do not think, even a little, though, that it is outside the realm of science, like the video suggests. That was pseudo-science, at best. "The blade flattens and you can see the mark." Yeah...the 2900 psi probably would change since it's spread out over a larger area than they are estimating. How is that gauge measuring? Does it assume one square inch on the other end? If so, what is the upper limit for a regular human? Then measure what he is. Is he greater than 2 standard deviations above the regular human upper limit?

Boom.

Answers.


And I'm not even coming close to doing a "real" science suggestion. That lady that had the Ph.D. probably knew better. But she was getting paid quite well to be on that show.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You just had to be that guy, didn't you. The one who's still shaking his head in denial, even after the prosecution has presented all evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. "Yeah, yeah, but I wanna see him do this, this, and that!". Really? C'mon man...

You're just grasping for straws in an attempt to show how unimpressed you are by a clearly incredible feat. That's the same kind of thing that habitual one-uppers do. I could always say this: Let's see you do that if you think its just smoke and mirrors. And if you don't have the spine to do it, then I rest my case.

Where did I say it wasn't impressive? It's amazing. But it doesn't prove what people pretend it does, though building a myth around a trick is great for producing a sense of magic. Like I knew this guy who though he was hot shit with math because he knew how to multiply large numbers in his head really fast so I had someone write me a calculus problem and gave it to him.

Though from your tone I assume some of this is feigned trolling.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Now that's debatable. Houdini was killed by a punch to the abdoment...how lame is that? I've been in scraps and walked away with worse, and I'm still here breathing. So if he got bumped but such a petty manouver, its highly unlikely that he could take a blade to the throat with 2,900 PSI and walk away from it. More like he'd decapitate himself.

He was killed a punch for Christ's sake, and you're saying he could do what that Shaolin Monk did? Please. He was an escape artist, not a martial artist.

Houdini was killed by a punch he was completely unprepared for . . .

Chi as an "energy" in MA doesn't exist, period. Only a 5 years old would buy that crap. What the old fighters mastered and was later mystified as "chi" is the precise muscular balance of strength and relaxation when hitting and the biomechanical centrifugal forces.

One vs one MMA is the best. But in a general street scenario, perhaps krav or Kempo would be more useful.

Originally posted by MetalIsDead
Chi as an "energy" in MA doesn't exist, period. Only a 5 years old would buy that crap. What the old fighters mastered and was later mystified as "chi" is the precise muscular balance of strength and relaxation when hitting and the biomechanical centrifugal forces.

One vs one MMA is the best. But in a general street scenario, perhaps krav or Kempo would be more useful.
The great thing about MMA is you can "mix" those disciplines in. That's why its called MMA.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think that you're delusional as fu<k

man this site has gone downhill, an interesting thread comes along and the first reply to it ruins the whole thing.

To answer the title question I have to say that taijiquan "Supreme Ultimate Fist" is probably the most powerful martial art.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
To answer the title question I have to say that taijiquan "Supreme Ultimate Fist" is probably the most powerful martial art.
Based on what? I mean I see some impressive stuff at the high levels but I wouldn't put it anywhere near the top...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on what? I mean I see some impressive stuff at the high levels but I wouldn't put it anywhere near the top...

It has the words "Supreme" and "Ultimate" in the title, duh.

MMA is designed as a sport, and MMA fighters train under the conditions one would under which they would in a sport. It's not necessarily as useful as "real" Martial Arts.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
MMA is designed as a sport, and MMA fighters train under the conditions one would under which they would in a sport. It's not necessarily as useful as "real" Martial Arts.

Do you really think that in a street fight a trained MMA fighter would hold back groin kicks, eye gouges, strikes to the back of the head and small joint manipulation?

No, that's not what I meant. I was saying that MMA isn't the most practical MA to use in a real life fight in spite of its popularity. It's primary purpose is for MMA fights, not real fights. In lieu of skill, some punk fighting an MMA fighter is going to get bloody hurt, but the reverse is true when an MMA fighter is going up against, say, someone experienced primarily in Muay Thai or Krav Maga.

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you really think that in a street fight a trained MMA fighter would hold back groin kicks, eye gouges, strikes to the back of the head and small joint manipulation?

hell... what "traditional" martial art would be better in a street fight than sport MMA?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
No, that's not what I meant. I was saying that MMA isn't the most practical MA to use in a real life fight in spite of its popularity. It's primary purpose is for MMA fights, not real fights. In lieu of skill, some punk fighting an MMA fighter is going to get bloody hurt, but the reverse is true when an MMA fighter is going up against, say, someone experienced primarily in Muay Thail or Krav Maga.

most MMA do incorporate some degree of muai thai/boxing.

Krav Maga is hardly a traditional MA. Military combat is a completely different thing from sport MA, yes... ?

Originally posted by inimalist
most MMA do incorporate some degree of muai thai/boxing.

Krav Maga is hardly a traditional MA. Military combat is a completely different thing from sport MA, yes... ?

They do, but obviously not to the same degree that someone fully immersed in Muay Thai would be. The conditioning simply would be too time consuming for an MMA fighter. Like I said, MMA's primary purpose is as a sport and not as a Martial Art. MMA obviously has to incorporate Muay Thai and other martial art practices in order for it to work, but it's simply not the same nor as efficient as a MA someone has dedicated a large part of their life to.

I didn't say "traditional" in my post, I said "real". As in, used for actual combat and not for sporting events. A Krav Maga devotee will on average by a more seasoned and combat ready fighter than someone who does MMA. I have nothing against MMA fighters, and think a lot of them do have formidable knowledge of MA in general, but not necessarily the skills needed for combat. MMA is theatrical by it's very nature, so of course there's going to be a a certain trade off in combat efficiency.

I don't know, I'd imagine being trained in wrestling, joint manipulation, choking and striking would come in very handy in a "real" fight.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know, I'd imagine being trained in wrestling, joint manipulation, choking and striking would come in very handy in a "real" fight.

It would be useful in a fight, just not to the same degree as someone immersed in a Martial Art who doesn't worry as much as a MMA person would about sportsmanship. MMA fighters are trained to participate within the rules and boundary's of the sport. Someone engaged in Muay Thai is not. There aren't nearly as many restrictions.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
It would be useful in a fight, just not to the same degree as someone immersed in a Martial Art who doesn't worry as much as a MMA person would about sportsmanship. MMA fighters are trained to participate within the rules and boundary's of the sport. Someone engaged in Muay Thai is not. There aren't nearly as many restrictions.

Again, not so sure about that. American Muay Thai is loaded and loaded with rules and strikes one can't use.

Traditional Muay Thai fights (say in Thailand), still pretty sure you can't strike to the back of the head, gouge eyes or strike the groin.

ya, from my understanding, there would be a difference between muai thai and military combat forms like krav maga or its derivitives

Originally posted by inimalist
ya, from my understanding, there would be a difference between muai thai and military combat forms like krav maga or its derivitives

Thai Military uses a form of Muay Thai that's stripped down to be most effective/lethal, iirc. Forget its name. They're probbaly ok with bashing you in the back of the skull.

come to think of it, the viet/Thai people had something that was probably similar to that in their traditional militaries

Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on what? I mean I see some impressive stuff at the high levels but I wouldn't put it anywhere near the top...

I was joking.

Tai Chi is an old people relaxation thing these days. But it still has a name that means Supreme Ultimate Fist, like something out of an anime.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I was joking.

Tai Chi is an old people relaxation thing these days. But it still has a name that means Supreme Ultimate Fist, like something out of an anime.

Some people still practice it as a martial art. As far as I know only the first (slow) form of Taijiquan is popular with old people in China.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know, I'd imagine being trained in wrestling, joint manipulation, choking and striking would come in very handy in a "real" fight.

'Sport' fighting can easily translate into 'street' fighting, and vice-versa.

Justin White describes using MMA in a real fight better than anyone:

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for me it would the warrior arts of the samurai, muay thai, kali or escrima, tae kwon do

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
I didn't say "traditional" in my post, I said "real". As in, used for actual combat and not for sporting events.
As opposed to Muay Thai, which is used in... sporting events.

AOriginally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Krav Maga devotee will on average by a more seasoned and combat ready fighter than someone who does MMA.
Based on what? Unless they are actually in the military, there's no reason a Krav Maga student will just attract real fights to them.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Based on what? Unless they are actually in the military, there's no reason a Krav Maga student will just attract real fights to them.

No, it's true, bad-guys can smell a Krav Magite from 200 paces and will instinctually attack.