Hogun vs. Colossus

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Norse_Force
Hogun the Grim, the fierce, silent, berserker of the Warriors Three or the Full Metal X-Man??? Asgardian versus Mutant, who takes it?

D_Dude1210
Mutant. Hogun is at most Class 35, isnt he?

Norse_Force
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Mutant. Hogun is at most Class 35, isnt he?

This is true, Hogun is roughly in the 35 ton range, slightly stronger then your average Asgardian male. Now a days, Colossus is pushing into the 100's now... So, yes, Colossus is considerably stronger then Hogun. However, strength is only one category to examine. Is Colossus faster then an Asgardian, reflexes and all? Hogun also has thousands of years of battlefield combat training under his belt, as well as being armed with Asgardian weaponry. We saw Volstagg cut a diesel truck in half effortlessly with a broadsword... I'm curious to see what Hogun's mace might do to Piotr...

jemiesranova
hi all

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by Norse_Force
This is true, Hogun is roughly in the 35 ton range, slightly stronger then your average Asgardian male. Now a days, Colossus is pushing into the 100's now... So, yes, Colossus is considerably stronger then Hogun. However, strength is only one category to examine. Is Colossus faster then an Asgardian, reflexes and all? Hogun also has thousands of years of battlefield combat training under his belt, as well as being armed with Asgardian weaponry. We saw Volstagg cut a diesel truck in half effortlessly with a broadsword... I'm curious to see what Hogun's mace might do to Piotr...

Mace is blunt force trauma, tho. Piotr has taken blunt hits like a champ in the past (tanking a few of Gladiator's CL 100 blows come to mind). He's no slouch in combat either.

Norse_Force
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Mace is blunt force trauma, tho. Piotr has taken blunt hits like a champ in the past (tanking a few of Gladiator's CL 100 blows come to mind). He's no slouch in combat either.

This is true also, years of training in the danger room under guys like Wolverine and Cyclops tend to make you more then capable in combat, but how does that stack up to the Milena of training and combat experience Hogun posses? Especially how unique Asgardian combat is... Probably be unlike anything Piotr had ever encountered. I'll give it to Colossus though, he can take a hit... shrugged off Juggernaut's blows before. But, this no ordinary mace! This is Hridgandr! It's blows have slain giants! In the end, I'm sure this fight would be a close call.

KingD19
Colossus has fought aliens, demons, gamma monsters, magical monsters...there's not much he hasn't seen. And Asgardian combat isn't all that unique...it's like viking combat for the most part.

And Colossus has taken hits from people far outside of Hogun's range and kept going, and won at times.

Colossus takes the majority, at least 7.5/10

Prep-Man
Colossus.

gogogadgetgo
Colossus. there's nothing hogun could do to colossus.

juggernaut74
Colossus is a Class 100 nowadays and he's fought guys like Gladiator, Hulk, Juggernaut and held his own even kayoing a Savage Hulk using his skill combined with his strength. Hell even as a teenager he trashed She-Hulk.

leonidas
colossus wins, but hogun makes him work for it.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus is a Class 100 nowadays and he's fought guys like Gladiator, Hulk, Juggernaut and held his own even kayoing a Savage Hulk using his skill combined with his strength. Hell even as a teenager he trashed She-Hulk.
I dont think he KOed the Hulk, I pretty sure all he manage to do was gain an advantage and then hulk got angeryer and smashed him

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I dont think he KOed the Hulk, I pretty sure all he manage to do was gain an advantage and then hulk got angeryer and smashed him I'll have to go back and look but Hulk was kayoed even if it wasn't for long. It would have been a TKO under UFC rules.

KingD19
Yeah, it was a KO, it was a flash ko that lasted probably under a minute, but it was a KO. Then Hulk woke up, got pissed and got stronger.

StiltmanFTW
Colossus... stronger, more durable...

Igniz
Colossus FTW

JakeTheBank
Colossus.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by leonidas
colossus wins, but hogun makes him work for it.


Definitely makes him work for it. Colossus is tough, but I can see Hogun tearing shietz up with Hridgandr...

Busts up an AIM agent infused with the blood of Fenris. The wolf destined to kill Odin when ragnarok comes around again. She even comments that she was out for quite a while.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-05-11-01-08.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-05-11-01-09.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-05-11-01-10.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-05-11-01-11.jpg

More from Hogun and Hridgandr....
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-24-11-01-38.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-24-11-01-39-40.jpg

Norse_Force
Agreed and excellent points! Enjoyed the links a lot! Colossus out matches Hogun in terms of sheer strength, but he is still the elite of Asgard. Hridgandr would knock Colossus rather senseless, at least for a while, with a solid strike.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Mutant. Hogun is at most Class 35, isnt he? yep, a guy who lifts 35 tons Vs A guy who can reach the 750 ton range

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1569900-c.png

colossus is more than 21x stronger than hogun

Existere
Originally posted by celeyhyga17

More from Hogun and Hridgandr....
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-24-11-01-38.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/02-24-11-01-39-40.jpg I'm no physicist, but that looks like more than 35 tons at work to me... is that the mace's power adding in?

Anyways, Colossus probably...

Simbon
Originally posted by Existere
I'm no physicist, but that looks like more than 35 tons at work to me... is that the mace's power adding in?

Anyways, Colossus probably...

Yeah, Hogun's mace is going to put some hurt on Colossus, but he will pull through, and once he gets Hogun's mace away from him it's over.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Existere
I'm no physicist, but that looks like more than 35 tons at work to me... is that the mace's power adding in?

Anyways, Colossus probably...

That looks like a lot of mace "magic"

KingD19
Yeah, it's obvious that's not fancy artwork, that's clearly some sort of undefined magic emanating from the mace.

KingD19
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yep, a guy who lifts 35 tons Vs A guy who can reach the 750 ton range

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1569900-c.png

colossus is more than 21x stronger than hogun



Colossus doesn't weigh 500lbs, he weighs almost 2 tons. Ergo 750 tons is not his limit, or anywhere near it if we go by that tons per square pound thing they did against the Nimrod's.

His weight has been brought up several times over the years, and it's always somewhere around a ton and a half, not 500lbs. That doesn't even make sense for a man composed entirely of a metal that resembles the densest metal known to man to weigh that little, when people like Hulk and Juggernaut weigh upwards of 800lbs.

Simbon
Originally posted by KingD19
Colossus doesn't weigh 500lbs, he weighs almost 2 tons. Ergo 750 tons is not his limit, or anywhere near it if we go by that tons per square pound thing they did against the Nimrod's.

His weight has been brought up several times over the years, and it's always somewhere around a ton and a half, not 500lbs. That doesn't even make sense for a man composed entirely of a metal that resembles the densest metal known to man to weigh that little, when people like Hulk and Juggernaut weigh upwards of 800lbs.

If we said that a human of his size is about 240-250 lbs, that would mean his body has a volume of about four cubic feet; if his body has the density of steel, that would put his weight at about a ton (a little less, actually), whereas if his body is as dense as osmium he would weigh about 3 tons.

All of that's meaningless, however, since characters bringing up quantities doesn't count for anything...

Unles those quantities are attoseconds.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by KingD19
Colossus doesn't weigh 500lbs, he weighs almost 2 tons. Ergo 750 tons is not his limit, or anywhere near it if we go by that tons per square pound thing they did against the Nimrod's.

which easily could be argued as hyberbole.

KingD19
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
which easily could be argued as hyberbole.


What's hyperbole? The Nimrod's calculations, the incorrect handbook weight, or his actual weight?

bannedtroll007
Originally posted by jemiesranova
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Batroc
Colossus is generally shown as being around Thing level in strength. That would make him 3 or 4 times as strong as Hogun - if Hogun's 35 ton strength level is accurate - which I doubt.
Anyway, Hogun is one of Asgard's greatest warriors, with thousands of years of experience fighting trolls, frost giants, etc. Colossus has a few years experience. He's just a kid compared to Hogun. Count in Hridgandr, and it's closer than you think.
I'd give a slight majority to Hogun.

bannedtroll007
Originally posted by Batroc
Colossus is generally shown as being around Thing level in strength. Around?... erm

TethAdamTheRock
bump

zopzop
Colossus rips him in half. Colossus is stronger, faster, more durable, and does well vs magical attacks.

Anadrol1
Colossus easily. Don't even see how this is debatable

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