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It seems that everyone thinks Strange needs prep to even be a threat to Thanos AND you all even thinks thanos wins if strange has prep. I disagree. Why an I wrong?

Originally posted by long pig
It seems that everyone thinks Strange needs prep to even be a threat to Thanos AND you all even thinks thanos wins if strange has prep. I disagree. Why an I wrong? Im a huge Thanos fanboy and i agree Classic Dr Strange would beat Thanos, when looking at his feats it clear he can...but the only counter argument people ever use is when Strange said to Surfer that he or anyone else couldnt stand up to Thanos EXCEPT Surfer( which is bullshit as Dr Strange >>>>>Surfer)

You can counter that by quoting Doom who asked why Strange, since he obviously had the power, doesn't destroy both Surfer and Thanos and Surfer at the same time.

tOriginally posted by long pig
You can counter that by quoting Doom who asked why Strange, since he obviously had the power, doesn't destroy both Surfer and Thanos and Surfer at the same time. thats not a counter at all. What doom thinks isn't.close to comparing what comes directly from the.horses mouth. Strange straight up said he didn't.have the.power to brat thanos. Period. No amount of wishful thinking changes this. Magic doesn't work on thanos as he.is.versed in the.mystic arts himself. Not strange level of course, but.enough I'm guessing to not get beat by it. Thanos wins by being better in virtually every single area of.vs.fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
t thats not a counter at all. What doom thinks isn't.close to comparing what comes directly from the.horses mouth. Strange straight up said he didn't.have the.power to brat thanos. Period. No amount of wishful thinking changes this. Magic doesn't work on thanos as he.is.versed in the.mystic arts himself. Not strange level of course, but.enough I'm guessing to not get beat by it. Thanos wins by being better in virtually every single area of.vs.fight.

Magic won't work on Thanos because he is versed in magic? Prove this is true. Strange put him in the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, vaporizes all of Thanos' attire and tech. Then proceeds to dump the titan into a void dimension. Letsee Thanos get out of that without teleportation tech.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
t thats not a counter at all. What doom thinks isn't.close to comparing what comes directly from the.horses mouth. Strange straight up said he didn't.have the.power to brat thanos. Period. No amount of wishful thinking changes this. Magic doesn't work on thanos as he.is.versed in the.mystic arts himself. Not strange level of course, but.enough I'm guessing to not get beat by it. Thanos wins by being better in virtually every single area of.vs.fight. Strange agreed he could do it but it wasn't his way. He had just incapacitated-restrained them both at the same time and doom said destroy them. Thanos isn't immune to magic, he knows a little but so does all the skyfather levelers he's beaten. What areas is thanos superior in? The only areas Thanos is better is in physical strength maybe durability. Everything else i believe he is inferior or equal.

Originally posted by long pig
Strange agreed he could do it but it wasn't his way. He had just incapacitated-restrained them both at the same time and doom said destroy them. Thanos isn't immune to magic, he knows a little but so does all the skyfather levelers he's beaten. What areas is thanos superior in? The only areas Thanos is better is in physical strength maybe durability. Everything else i believe he is inferior or equal. Problem is the hard thanos wanking on the site and the fact that most people can't fathom the idea that his standard levels are not when he is the "main" villain of a series often times where he needs to be a ridiculous character to make him a great threat to the universe. He is a great character don't get me wrong but he's like a reverse apocalypse IMO. His jobber aura causes those around him to job horribly at levels far below their peak. Also I do conced the Thanos pimphand to be one of the founding forces of the multiverse and is indeed as powerful as a chuck norris roundhouse kick.

Strange said... straight up...he.didn't have the power to stop thanos n put.him down. If the writer says this character can't beat another.. there is no ambiguity there. Further, the areas thanos are superior in are virtually everything as I said.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him

Can Dormammu not kill Thanos now either?

I didn't think there was much argument about this tbh. At his best, Strange is leagues above thanos, imho

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Strange said... straight up...he.didn't have the power to stop thanos n put.him down. If the writer says this character can't beat another.. there is no ambiguity there. Further, the areas thanos are superior in are virtually everything as I said.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him A lot of people have said a lot of things on panel which doesn't necessarily make it true as it can be refuted in the very next issue. I'm just saying with on panel feats Strange has better solo feats not relying on other items for the most part or at least if he does they tend to be his standard gear which has almost as many tricks as Batman's belt. Thanos when he does something big tends to include some big and otherwise not present item that allows him to complete feats beyond his normal power scope. That is not to say that he is not an absolute wrecker but most of his more impressive stuff tends to involve a gem/item of unspeakable power/death. Makes it kind of hard to fail with that kind of backing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Strange said... straight up...he.didn't have the power to stop thanos n put.him down. If the writer says this character can't beat another.. there is no ambiguity there.

That's one writers opinion on the matter. The same writer who thinks Surfer has a better shot than Strange. Guess what? Thanos has pummeled Surfer more times than not. Strange has beat down threats greater than Thanos. Should we take Thanos' comment about avoiding Hulk?

Strange for some reason forgot he had the Crimson Bands when trying to restrain Surfer and Thanos.



Lol, Strange sorcerror supreme that has gone up and beaten mystical foes that existed longer than Thanos. What you're saying is that magic wouldn't work well on Thanos yet it worked on Dormammu, Umar, Loki, and Surtur? Let's be serious, Thanos striking power means little against Seraphim's shield. His strength would be nulled by the Bands of Cyttorak or Chains of Krakkan. His combat skills isn't going to cut it against the Vipers of Valtor and Rain of Raggador.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Magic won't work on Thanos because he is versed in magic? Prove this is true. Strange put him in the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, vaporizes all of Thanos' attire and tech. Then proceeds to dump the titan into a void dimension. Letsee Thanos get out of that without teleportation tech.

The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak which even Nova could break?

i love ya lp but we'll never see completely eye-to-eye on strange.

i assume no prep, just straight up battle? yeah, bands wouldn't last long. strange could bfr him, but i don't see how he would REMAIN bfr'd if he still has his tech. and i disagree with the above--thanos's striking power and blasting power could be an issue. strange has become exhausted in the past using personal shields. strange would remain in character and not be resorting to dark magic as well, which would further limit his chances.

i continue to hear a lot of generalities when it comes to strange--he's beat 'lots' of skyfather levelers. he's beat down 'many' above thanos. wellllllll.............. let's see some scans and hear some context. for someone who has supposedly beaten down all these uber level guys, LET'S SEE IT. on panel. with context.

i'll HAPPILY concede the point that strange is so far above the usual heralder if i can actually see some consistent proof to support it. i've a lengthy collection of strange. i may be simply forgetting some of the instances everyone is talking about, or perhaps i don't HAVE them. so, someone enlighten me.

don't TELL me about it. forum-speak is a notoriously poor gauge of a character, but show some scans with context so everyone can see it. then maybe all the strange hype can be put to rest one way or the other.

sans bfr, i don't see strange winning this. but please, someone prove me wrong. i'd LOVE to think strange--dropped in a cage, under his own personal power--could beat thanos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him Classic case of never having read anything on Dr Strange.

Strange has matter manip feats that far surpass Thanos and TP, hell his blasting power has destroyed dimensions and was stated to have the power to shake the universe.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak which even Nova could break? The crimson bands vary in strength.

Classic strange doesn't need prep to beat thanos.

But current would need a heck of a lot of prep to beat thanos.

On paper, Thanos shouldn't be able to beat the Surfer, either.

But he does.

Originally posted by leonidas
i love ya lp but we'll never see completely eye-to-eye on strange.

i assume no prep, just straight up battle? yeah, bands wouldn't last long. strange could bfr him, but i don't see how he would REMAIN bfr'd if he still has his tech. and i disagree with the above--thanos's striking power and blasting power could be an issue. strange has become exhausted in the past using personal shields. strange would remain in character and not be resorting to dark magic as well, which would further limit his chances.

i continue to hear a lot of generalities when it comes to strange--he's beat 'lots' of skyfather levelers. he's beat down 'many' above thanos. wellllllll.............. let's see some scans and hear some context. for someone who has supposedly beaten down all these uber level guys, LET'S SEE IT. on panel. with context.

i'll HAPPILY concede the point that strange is so far above the usual heralder if i can actually see some consistent proof to support it. i've a lengthy collection of strange. i may be simply forgetting some of the instances everyone is talking about, or perhaps i don't HAVE them. so, someone enlighten me.

don't TELL me about it. forum-speak is a notoriously poor gauge of a character, but show some scans with context so everyone can see it. then maybe all the strange hype can be put to rest one way or the other.

sans bfr, i don't see strange winning this. but please, someone prove me wrong. i'd LOVE to think strange--dropped in a cage, under his own personal power--could beat thanos. I was under the impression this was classic strange. If so he wouldn't need to maintain his shields. He'd get Cytorrak to give him jugg shields . Thanos isn't doing anything after that lol.

Without prep here Strange has no chance.

Strange with or without prep wins vs. Thanos

Originally posted by shokosugi
Strange with or without prep wins vs. Thanos Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?


Feats. He has defeated villains far more powerful than Thanos.

Shuma, Dormammu, In Betweener, Warlock with the gems, etc.

warlock defeated him actually

Originally posted by shokosugi
Feats. He has defeated villains far more powerful than Thanos.

Shuma, Dormammu, In Betweener, Warlock with the gems, etc. He's also fallen or been unable to stop someone he had prep against namely Thor wit the power gem that Thanos chumped with an experimental gun. That's a story both characters were in and look who looked far superior without prep than strange with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's also fallen or been unable to stop someone he had prep against namely Thor wit the power gem that Thanos chumped with an experimental gun. That's a story both characters were in and look who looked far superior without prep than strange with it.

Pis/CIs

Plus this is Thor Were talking about, not some b-level Darkseid wannabe like Thanos.

Originally posted by shokosugi
Pis/CIs

Plus this is Thor Were talking about, not some b-level Darkseid wannabe like Thanos. That's a direct comparison of these two facing the same threat and one has prep and was unable to do a thing while the other stopped him temporarily cold with a gun he was just tinkering with.

You can say pis/cis on every feat you named for Strange and he never defeated warlock or even challenged the entire ig. You aren't even familiar with it, apparently.

Long Pig, you need to go back and re-read all the Strange appearances.

Seems you've really stuck to what's in your respect thread as absolute proof, but what's in your respect thread is a lot of misinterpretations, half truths, and a lot of out of context stuff. Which has, without a doubt really made a difference on the forum on the opinion of Strange, but severely overrated isn't really better than severely underrated.

IMO

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Long Pig, you need to go back and re-read all the Strange appearances.

Seems you've really stuck to what's in your respect thread as absolute proof, but what's in your respect thread is a lot of misinterpretations, half truths, and a lot of out of context stuff. Which has, without a doubt really made a difference on the forum on the opinion of Strange, but severely overrated isn't really better than severely underrated.

IMO

see, like i said in the nomination thread--the guy know his sh!t.

clapping

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Long Pig, you need to go back and re-read all the Strange appearances.

Seems you've really stuck to what's in your respect thread as absolute proof, but what's in your respect thread is a lot of misinterpretations, half truths, and a lot of out of context stuff. Which has, without a doubt really made a difference on the forum on the opinion of Strange, but severely overrated isn't really better than severely underrated.

IMO he might respond next year

Hmmm. Leo and Bieb make some good points about Classic Strange.

Originally posted by leonidas
see, like i said in the nomination thread--the guy know his sh!t.

clapping Aw, don't you know how to get a gals loins wet.

Strange summons Zom. Thanos DIES.

Originally posted by shokosugi
Feats. He has defeated villains far more powerful than Thanos.

Shuma, Dormammu, In Betweener, Warlock with the gems, etc.
LOL!

Most of those villains actually completely outclassed him and he only won because he had been granted special powers to do so. In Warlock's case he didn't even win to begin with.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Long Pig, you need to go back and re-read all the Strange appearances.

Seems you've really stuck to what's in your respect thread as absolute proof, but what's in your respect thread is a lot of misinterpretations, half truths, and a lot of out of context stuff. Which has, without a doubt really made a difference on the forum on the opinion of Strange, but severely overrated isn't really better than severely underrated.

IMO
I really agree... I ran classic strange in a tourney, and that respect thread was extremely unhelpful; once i actually read the scans in it, in most cases the descriptions weren't accurate at all. Or sometimes were even pretty much the opposite of what actually happened.

Thanos isn't older, Doc is thousands of years old. They both have mega blasts. Doc blasted Galactus on is back and one shotted his herald. Blown death apart and destroyed planets. He's crippled Galactus with mental attacks. Dominated In Betweener. Defended against Lt. Defeated Dormmamu and umar. Nulled the IG with a flip of the wrist. He's created and destroyed whole universes and even keeps a pocket universe in every cell of his body to draw ambient power from them. Essentially giving him infinite power reserves. No evil can handle a full blast from the eoa. Plus his time control power makes everything easier. Leo you're my favorite guy here even he you're always wrong. And you're addicted to tranny porn.

^ lol wtf?

Did anyone actually read the Warlock fight? They keep saying Warlock won that fight but thats only a conclusion that Strange came too when he saw the future as he "continued to fight Warlock like he was" doing against the power gem.

He then proceeded to take the soul gem away from Warlock and use it to "open Warlock's eyes" and he lost the will to fight after that.

Thats more of a testament to saying he can stalemate all the infinity gems with a minutes prep.

I swear he recently just took the Odin force out of Thor and used it to repair Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Classic case of never having read anything on Dr Strange.

Strange has matter manip feats that far surpass Thanos and TP, hell his blasting power has destroyed dimensions and was stated to have the power to shake the universe. Really now, as Leo has stated... lets see the scans.. Now you're telling me that Strange has more blasting power than Thanos.. surely you jest. Even TP... really now... So then, I'm guessing Strange has almost mindraped somebody on the level of Galactus? I'm taking it Strange has resisted somebody on the level of Moondragon WITH the mind gem? I'm guessing Strange has keep someone on the level of Xavier out of his mind with ease? Please then, please post these TP feats you speak of that put strange ahead of Thanos lol. I'll be waiting for those and his blasting power feats that put him above Thanos.

One more question Nihi... do you feel superman is above Thanos? Afterall, Supes has beaten people well above Thanos like Strange has. So thus, since that is your argument here.. Supes wins then right? Or could it be that Strange always uses prep to win those battles.. and is usually amped to win those battles and of course is the hero and has to beat the big bad demon.. much like superman. So.. Nihi.. is Supes above Thanos?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Without prep here Strange has no chance. oh so strange does have a chance with prep ?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Really now, as Leo has stated... lets see the scans.. Now you're telling me that Strange has more blasting power than Thanos.. surely you jest. Even TP... really now... So then, I'm guessing Strange has almost mindraped somebody on the level of Galactus? I'm taking it Strange has resisted somebody on the level of Moondragon WITH the mind gem? I'm guessing Strange has keep someone on the level of Xavier out of his mind with ease? Please then, please post these TP feats you speak of that put strange ahead of Thanos lol. I'll be waiting for those and his blasting power feats that put him above Thanos.

One more question Nihi... do you feel superman is above Thanos? Afterall, Supes has beaten people well above Thanos like Strange has. So thus, since that is your argument here.. Supes wins then right? Or could it be that Strange always uses prep to win those battles.. and is usually amped to win those battles and of course is the hero and has to beat the big bad demon.. much like superman. So.. Nihi.. is Supes above Thanos? Well, yeah.

Originally posted by long pig
Thanos isn't older, Doc is thousands of years old. They both have mega blasts. Doc blasted Galactus on is back and one shotted his herald. Blown death apart and destroyed planets. He's crippled Galactus with mental attacks. Dominated In Betweener. Defended against Lt. Defeated Dormmamu and umar. Nulled the IG with a flip of the wrist. He's created and destroyed whole universes and even keeps a pocket universe in every cell of his body to draw ambient power from them. Essentially giving him infinite power reserves. No evil can handle a full blast from the eoa. Plus his time control power makes everything easier. Leo you're my favorite guy here even he you're always wrong. And you're addicted to tranny porn. All with Prep and an amp. Come on Long Pig.. you and i both know Strange RARELY EVER beats any of these guys without prep and a amp. He's always getting an amp. The sotry makes it clear this big bad demon outclasses Strange with ease.. yet strange will be granted some power or mind some relic and in the end (because he's in the hero) save the day. You know this, and I know this.

Originally posted by chomperx9
oh so strange does have a chance with prep ? More of one but with prep he still loses.

Originally posted by long pig
Thanos isn't immune to magic, he knows a little but so does all the skyfather levelers he's beaten.

What?

Sarcasm by Long Pig?

Oh yea. dur

thumbsupdur

Strange has mindraped Galactus though

Theres a difference between prep and amp. The strongest Strange has ever gotten is when he absorbed Shuma Gorath and subsequently had to kill his ego. That came about by absorbing someone else's power and adding it to his own. Prep is utilizing his artifacts(that he could just summon if he wanted to)for more power.

Thanos immune to magic...........okay if this is related to his pact with Death or something then its BS and not true he can't die but hes not immune to the effects of magic by way of 3rd party who isn't even immune to magic.
Its like saying Strange is immune to the effects of technology when we see things like him being telaported with tech before.

When you're against Strange you're also fighting Zom, The Vishanti, Cyttorak, Dormammu, etc.

Thanos dies.

Still waiting on these impressive TP and blasting showings from Strange with no amp, prep or artifacts.

He destroyed a planet and has caused a supernova that destroyed multiple galaxies. Those are really energy manipulation feats more then blasting.

You want impressive showings for TP without the eye of aggamotto well then those don't exist since the eye is always with him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Really now, as Leo has stated... lets see the scans.. Now you're telling me that Strange has more blasting power than Thanos.. surely you jest.Strange has destroyed planets in 1 blast and dimensions. Yeah Almost he mind ****ed Galactus with a spell. he beat Umar, Dormammus more powerful telepathic sister. Go to Stranges respect thread its all there for you to see, including him destroying entire dimensions and planets with blasts.

Nonsense post trying to use bullshit ways to prove a point as we are using Strange who has beaten more higher foes than Superman, it proves you havent read any classic Strange at all if you think he used prep to beat half the demons,gods etc . Of course he amps himself thats within his powers/set.

Thanos wouldnt get through Stranges shields, Galactus couldnt and we know he can get through Thanos's

T

Chances are Strange turns Thanos to stone like Warlock did.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Strange has destroyed planets in 1 blast and dimensions. Yeah Almost he mind ****ed Galactus with a spell. he beat Umar, Dormammus more powerful telepathic sister. Go to Stranges respect thread its all there for you to see, including him destroying entire dimensions and planets with blasts.

Nonsense post trying to use bullshit ways to prove a point as we are using Strange who has beaten more higher foes than Superman, it proves you havent read any classic Strange at all if you think he used prep to beat half the demons,gods etc . Of course he amps himself thats within his powers/set.

Thanos wouldnt get through Stranges shields, Galactus couldnt and we know he can get through Thanos's

T

Chances are Strange turns Thanos to stone like Warlock did.

Funny enough.. all those scans you speak of were not only labeled wrong in many instances.. but also lacked a lot of circumstances behind them. This was also seen by other members like Bran and Kandy. Strange getting power granted to him, using relics, aren't normal powered Strange. All too often that is EXACTLY how he wins these fights against people that are far above him. Wanna know why... cause he gets an amp or uses a relic. Yet, the comic makes it clear this demon or that demon is leagues above him.. So again Nihi... so is superman above Thanos?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Funny enough.. all those scans you speak of were not only labeled wrong in many instances.. but also lacked a lot of circumstances behind them. This was also seen by other members like Bran and Kandy. Strange getting power granted to him, using relics, aren't normal powered Strange. All too often that is EXACTLY how he wins these fights against people that are far above him. Wanna know why... cause he gets an amp or uses a relic. Yet, the comic makes it clear this demon or that demon is leagues above him.. So again Nihi... so is superman above Thanos? Bullshit you havent read a damn thing in the respect thread and are only going off what other posters have said, because if you had youd have clearly seen he had no amp or prep to destroy the dimension or the living planet with blasts.

Come back to me when you actually read some classic Strange, then you would undestand thats how he works ie calling upon greater powers to amp himself, all this comes with the mantle of sorcer supreme protecting the entire 616 reality.

Thanos aint getting through his shields and gets turned to stone.

Who gives a shit about Superman in this thread, is this your regular excuse you use when struggling to form a argument.

Calling on other powers is not an amp? How exactly does that work in your mind... That is EXACTLY what it's.. it's an outside amp that isn't normal powered Strange. That would be like me saying Thanos can call on Death to aid him in a fight.. that would be an amp and using outside sources. Or calling on his ship to attack an opponent. All not allowed in a vs. match so nice try there. I didn't rely on anybody.. I've looked at the respect thread before and did so again after this thread. Along with reading some strange tales at various times in my life. No matter how you spin it.. the same plot always takes place.. Strange goes up against a being the writer makes clear he is well below... he calls upon an outside amp, uses prep, or gets a relic to defeat a being said to be leagues above him to save the universe. Sounds very very similiar to other heroes... hmmm kinda like superman huh? So I ask again.. Is superman above Thanos... since your opinion is.. if they beat people above Thanos... he can beat THanos. Even though it took an amp to do so.. and even though he is supposed to do so to save the universe.. Thus, SUperman like Strange beats Thanos right?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Calling on other powers is not an amp? How exactly does that work in your mind... That is EXACTLY what it's.. it's an outside amp that isn't normal powered Strange. That would be like me saying Thanos can call on Death to aid him in a fight.. that would be an amp and using outside sources. Or calling on his ship to attack an opponent. All not allowed in a vs. match so nice try there. I didn't rely on anybody.. I've looked at the respect thread before and did so again after this thread. Along with reading some strange tales at various times in my life. No matter how you spin it.. the same plot always takes place.. Strange goes up against a being the writer makes clear he is well below... he calls upon an outside amp, uses prep, or gets a relic to defeat a being said to be leagues above him to save the universe. Sounds very very similiar to other heroes... hmmm kinda like superman huh? So I ask again.. Is superman above Thanos... since your opinion is.. if they beat people above Thanos... he can beat THanos. Even though it took an amp to do so.. and even though he is supposed to do so to save the universe.. Thus, SUperman like Strange beats Thanos right? Are you a retard?

Thanos has never called upon a higher power to help or fight for him, Classic Strange did call upon higher powers to use it part of his powerset.

Tell you what why dont you show me the scans of Strange destroying planets and dimesions with blasts and point out the "prep" or "outside help" you talk about, because afterall as youve jsut said you have read them in the respect thread and know where they are.

So you agree Thanos aint busting his shields and gets turned to stione.

Originally posted by long pig
Dominated In Betweener.
Nope.

Originally posted by long pig
Defended against Lt.
Nope.

Originally posted by long pig
Nulled the IG with a flip of the wrist.
Nope.

Originally posted by long pig
He's created and destroyed whole universes and even keeps a pocket universe in every cell of his body to draw ambient power from them.
I'd like to see a scan of this supposed ability.

Originally posted by long pig
Essentially giving him infinite power reserves.
Huh, is that why he gets exhausted so often?

Originally posted by long pig
No evil can handle a full blast from the eoa.
Except for the many, many villains who have withstood blasts from it.

Originally posted by long pig
It seems that everyone thinks Strange needs prep to even be a threat to Thanos AND you all even thinks thanos wins if strange has prep. I disagree. Why an I wrong? Thanos wins

Originally posted by TheTyrant
The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak which even Nova could break?

The Crimson Bands strength depends on who conjures them.

Still waiting on these feats of Strange with no amp that put him above Thanos.

I find it interesting to stack Thanos against Classic Dr. Strange. Both are virtual immortals, that rival each other in various aspects. But Strange will always have the upper hand for the assortments of trick up his sleeve, and his ability to mess with time.

Thanos has no formal counter to time manipulation.

Originally posted by "Id"
I find it interesting to stack Thanos against Classic Dr. Strange. Both are virtual immortals, that rival each other in various aspects. But Strange will always have the upper hand for the assortments of trick up his sleeve, and his ability to mess with time.

Thanos has no formal counter to time manipulation.

How do you figure that ID... he's taken Surfer through time before with no effort what so ever. You have Eternal of Time.. hating Thanos.. and yet never even trying time manipulation on him... could it be because i wouldn't work on Thanos.. surely a possiblity isn't it? The facts are these... Thanos has Strange beat in virutally every area of a fight. We're aren't using a strange who can call on this relic or gets an amp to fight this Demon.. or preps to fight Thanos... This is a straight up fight... Thanos is more durable, better at h2h, more blasting and striking power, vastly superior intelligence, more will power, better at TP, better Tech.. the list goes on and on. So I'm really unclear on Strange wins.. or as you put it.. as an edge.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How do you figure that ID... he's taken Surfer through time before with no effort what so ever. You have Eternal of Time.. hating Thanos.. and yet never even trying time manipulation on him... could it be because i wouldn't work on Thanos.. surely a possiblity isn't it? The facts are these... Thanos has Strange beat in virutally every area of a fight. We're aren't using a strange who can call on this relic or gets an amp to fight this Demon.. or preps to fight Thanos... This is a straight up fight... Thanos is more durable, better at h2h, more blasting and striking power, vastly superior intelligence, more will power, better at TP, better Tech.. the list goes on and on. So I'm really unclear on Strange wins.. or as you put it.. as an edge.

Show me something that contest to Strange ability to mess with time.

Well, if Strange does some time manipulation, I don't think Thanos has shown anything to prove he can counter it.

Good fight. I'd probably pick Strange if his on top of his game.

I can't.. because Thanos has never tried to mess with time in such ways or had someone try it on him. Which instances are you talking about though?

True story
Dr Strange has mystical telepathy that can go back in time
http://i.imgur.com/Z31r6.jpg

Thanos showed time manipulation with SS... I think he would be able to counter such a time-stop as Strange has used.

Thanos needs tech to time travel, dr. strange can travel back in time FASTER than Thanos.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thanos showed time manipulation with SS... I think he would be able to counter such a time-stop as Strange has used. His own power or tech? And really? You think Thanos has time stop power on classic Strange level?

Thanos isn't more intelligent than Strange.. Strange can be omniscient. Thanos is a great TP, but Strange is on another level. Not to mention Strange has a winning record over skyfathers and abstracts. Strange absolutely needs no prep to call upon a relic or gain near infinite power from skyfather to abstract level beings. Will power? haha. In all the universe, the AO says Strange has the most will. In order to have greater stores of ambient energy, Strange creates pocket dimensions within each cell of his body through will power. Thanos isn't older or more experienced. Other than being over 5 thou years old, he has all the memories and experiences from all the prior SSs. Which is like millions of years of xp. Thanos's blasts aren't stronger either. I.ve seen Strange one shot planets and heralds. H2h? Does it matter? Still, Strange is good. H2h mantis and b panther at once. Wolverine. Hell Thor said he, along with the entire Avengers full well knew they couldn't handle Strange's power.

Not to mention his unequaled time manipulation. His matter molecular manip is greater than thanos' as well. Strange ranges from superior to vastl superior to everything except benchpressing. Thanos can't win.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
All with Prep and an amp. Come on Long Pig.. you and i both know Strange RARELY EVER beats any of these guys without prep and a amp. He's always getting an amp. The sotry makes it clear this big bad demon outclasses Strange with ease.. yet strange will be granted some power or mind some relic and in the end (because he's in the hero) save the day. You know this, and I know this. You don't know shit. none of the feats i was referring to took prep. He doesn't need prep to amp. Did the domination of inbetweener take prep? When he mind ****ed galactus, did that take prep?

And if you want proof, look in his respect thread and Find them. I don't owe ya jack shit. do it yourself.

forgot to mention Stranger TK is way better as well. Lifted a moon off it's axis through TK and pulled it apart. I think he even put it back together too with TK. I need to look.

forgot to mention Stranger TK is way better as well. Lifted a moon off it's axis through TK and pulled it apart. I think he even put it back together too with TK. I need to look. His energy absorption is better as well as his ability to drain power from anyone. There is no limit on power stealing.

Originally posted by long pig
Not to mention his unequaled time manipulation. His matter molecular manip is greater than thanos' as well. Strange ranges from superior to vastl superior to everything except benchpressing. Thanos can't win. In the same stories with both characters Thanos has been shown to be vastly superior to Strange aka Thor with power gem. That's a direct comparison to a threat under the same writer in the same story.

Originally posted by long pig
Thanos isn't more intelligent than Strange.. Strange can be omniscient. Thanos is a great TP, but Strange is on another level. Not to mention Strange has a winning record over skyfathers and abstracts. Strange absolutely needs no prep to call upon a relic or gain near infinite power from skyfather to abstract level beings. Will power? haha. In all the universe, the AO says Strange has the most will. In order to have greater stores of ambient energy, Strange creates pocket dimensions within each cell of his body through will power. Thanos isn't older or more experienced. Other than being over 5 thou years old, he has all the memories and experiences from all the prior SSs. Which is like millions of years of xp. Thanos's blasts aren't stronger either. I.ve seen Strange one shot planets and heralds. H2h? Does it matter? Still, Strange is good. H2h mantis and b panther at once. Wolverine. Hell Thor said he, along with the entire Avengers full well knew they couldn't handle Strange's power.

Stop reading when you said Strange is more intelligent than Thanos... This tells me you're an absolute clown and have some homoerotic obsession with strange. No need to discuss anything further if you think Strange is even in the same league as thanos, let alone above.

Let's say Thanos' iq is two billion. It's not, but let's say. Strange, with the eye has multiversal omniscience. He is as intelligent as Aggamotto who is more intelligent than just about anyone. If Thanos' iq is less than Agg's, it's less than Strange's. So, thanos > agg's? I dare you to say yes. I know you won't. I know yo'll veer off into insults. Now, i'll give you a way out of looking stupid and save face. I hope you take it. Is it possible you thought I meant normal human Strange's intelligence? Was that the case?

LP is high off pills and weed, his judgment is impared

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the same stories with both characters Thanos has been shown to be vastly superior to Strange aka Thor with power gem. That's a direct comparison to a threat under the same writer in the same story. Yes, vastly superior strength and durability. That's it. That's all he's got that's superior. Strange full power could have stuck Thor in a time bubble and that'd be that. BFR him into his own dimension and destroy the dimension. Strange is as omnipotent in his pocket dimensions as adam warlock is in his. I.e GOD.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
LP is high off pills and weed, his judgment is impared so?

Originally posted by long pig
Yes, vastly superior strength and durability. That's it. That's all he's got that's superior. Strange full power could have stuck Thor in a time bubble and that'd be that. BFR him into his own dimension and destroy the dimension. Strange is as omnipotent in his pocket dimensions as adam warlock is in his. I.e GOD. Except in that story it wasn't that simple. Thanos used an experimental gun to defeat him. For all strange's power why couldn't he have just stopped Thor in energy or something ?

Why did Strange look so out of ideas when he got his ass handed to him by Thor along with surfer and the rest of the infinity watch. The answer is simple the writer showed us Thanos is superior to them all in terms of formidability and in terms of quick thinking under pressure.

No, he isn't he's no more omnipotent than Meph is in his own.

It's called plot induced stupidity. You of all people should understand the ins and outs of any form of stupidity. Aren't you a 6th degree black belt in stupid? I see you never answered.

Strange takes this Thanos has no way to kill him
http://i.imgur.com/nefcI.jpg

Unless Strange has trained in stupid jitzu under quanch, he can't lose.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I can't.. because Thanos has never tried to mess with time in such ways or had someone try it on him. Which instances are you talking about though? Rune used a time-stop on Thanos to steal his Reality Gem.

Originally posted by long pig
Unless Strange has trained in stupid jitzu under quanch, he can't lose.

concession accepted.. Omniscience and intelligence aren't mutually inclusive but more exclusive.

Speaking of, anyone read the recent Avengers issue? Thanos is back.

Originally posted by long pig
It's called plot induced stupidity. You of all people should understand the ins and outs of any form of stupidity. Aren't you a 6th degree black belt in stupid? I see you never answered. Don't get so worked up it's clear when in the same situation Thanos is smarter and more powerful. Thor with the power gem makes it clear without prep Thanos is better than Strange with help and prep.

Originally posted by "Id"
Speaking of, anyone read the recent Avengers issue? Thanos is back.

No... Really do you have any scans or spoilers you can PM me ID?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No... Really do you have any scans or spoilers you can PM me ID? http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Avengers_11_Oroboros_CPS_030.jpg

Final page. I really don't care for Thanos being involved with the gems again personally.

He looks like he has down syndrome.

Originally posted by Blight
He looks like he has down syndrome. You watch your tongue.

JRM cant draw Thanos for shit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You watch your tongue. He looks like he has down syndrome

At least the art isn't as bad as the time his clone fought Thor.

Originally posted by King Kandy
At least the art isn't as bad as the time his clone fought Thor. Didnt JRJ draw that aswell?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Didnt JRJ draw that aswell?
Maybe... they look similar, but, if so, his arts improved a little since then.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Maybe... they look similar, but, if so, his arts improved a little since then. Im almost sure he drew Jurgens Thor run.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Final page. I really don't care for Thanos being involved with the gems again personally. I have a feeling this is more of an illusion than actually Thanos.

I hope it's not another damn clone.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I have a feeling this is more of an illusion than actually Thanos. I hope so it goes totally against where the character was been going.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Im almost sure he drew Jurgens Thor run. I was thinking this looks like that crappy Thanos clone from the Thor run.

It's hard to prove points when posting scans via my phone is impossible. Just believe what I say or don't, i was born with a limited amount of *ucks to give and I don't hand them out too often. There is no mental, power or intelligence feat Thanos has that Strange can't rape. We have a character who when Eternity was missing, was powerful enough to take his place. Fought Death by hurling planets at him, negated the I.G twice (once when Thanos tried to banish him and was unable and once when Nebula tried to use it and Doc negated it with two fingers). Beat moondragon in mental battle twice, with and without the mind gem. He's taken over dimensions, created and destroyed dimensions. Dominated inbetweener who stalemated galactus. Can can call on more than one skyfather to fight FOR him. Created sentient life, Is a master of black/white/earth magic as well as techno-magic. Defeated skyfathers who even Odin admits are his equals (Thanos highest showing is almost not losing to Odin isn't it?). ....cont...

Originally posted by long pig
It's hard to prove points when posting scans via my phone is impossible. Just believe what I say or don't, i was born with a limited amount of *ucks to give and I don't hand them out too often. There is no mental, power or intelligence feat Thanos has that Strange can't rape. We have a character who when Eternity was missing, was powerful enough to take his place. Fought Death by hurling planets at him, negated the I.G twice (once when Thanos tried to banish him and was unable and once when Nebula tried to use it and Doc negated it with two fingers). Beat moondragon in mental battle twice, with and without the mind gem. He's taken over dimensions, created and destroyed dimensions. Dominated inbetweener who stalemated galactus. Can can call on more than one skyfather to fight FOR him. Created sentient life, Is a master of black/white/earth magic as well as techno-magic. Defeated skyfathers who even Odin admits are his equals (Thanos highest showing is almost not losing to Odin isn't it?). ....cont... With the feats I am aware of I know you're taking out the context. The ig is clearly superior to Strange and never stalemated him in full use. Plus others have called you out who have read strange in depth so I think it's safe to say you are taking out the context of those scenes as well which leaves us with a direct comparison against Thor with the power gem. Thanos succeeded where Strange failed. That simple.

multi versal omniscience who the Watcher asked for advice and info. He was the only person IG Thanos was worried about (which is why he bangished him. If IG thanos was worried about Strange beating him what chance does normal thanos have? Answer: none). When the omnipotent Korvac made a list of those who could beat him, Phoenix was 2, Strange was number one. Thanos was worried about Hulk, Doc ate Mindless Hulk's lunch. Strange has even called upon the phoenix force before. Basically we have a cosmic(Thanos) threat vs a omniversal threat. Thanos Can not beat him. Hell, Thanos can't even try to blitz/quickdraw blast strange because His EOA can react at light speed to intercept both energy attacks and physical attacks. It's a wash. And if you want to bring up bullshit weak feats, I'll show you where spiderman beat Thanos and had him arrested and placed in handcuffs.

Where is all these Thanos intelligence and tp feats that surpass Doc's?

Originally posted by long pig
Thanos was worried about Hulk, Doc ate Mindless Hulk's lunch.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8833/incrediblehulk29924.jpg

I mean, for christ's sake, Strange has beaten the shit out of Thanos's God. Think about that for a second, thanos worships a being that Strange has beaten.

Ok, that scan there? It says Strange is exhausted and on his last legs. And apparently a close friend committed suicide.

So not a fair showing.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8833/incrediblehulk29924.jpg There are over a dozen times Strange has beaten Hulk. Refering to mindless Hulk IronFist says: You could destroy him with a twitch of a finger, why won't you do it? Strange replies: That is not my way. Who do you think beats Hulk in that arc? None of the Avengers including Thor could. Strange could and did.

Speaking of Thor, didn't Thor say 'I know we can't defeat you and your spells' or something in the Avengers once?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, that scan there? It says Strange is exhausted and on his last legs. And apparently a close friend committed suicide.

So not a fair showing. i posted the whole thing a few times, he was exhausted trying to fix the hulk's problem

Originally posted by long pig
I mean, for christ's sake, Strange has beaten the shit out of Thanos's God. Think about that for a second, thanos worships a being that Strange has beaten.

when did strange beat thanos' god? i hope you're not referring to infinity war when strange held back mistress death.

Strange admitted ON PANEL he was no match for Thanos and he wasn't in his league. /end thread

Originally posted by long pig
i was born with a limited amount of *ucks to give and I don't hand them out too often.



and with that, i formally renounce my earlier position. strange wins!

nwoot

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Strange admitted ON PANEL he was no match for Thanos and he wasn't in his league. /end thread

Are we talking about IG wielding Thanos because context is important and even then I doubt its validity because Strange has beaten people stronger then Thanos so of course that would be wrong.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Strange admitted ON PANEL he was no match for Thanos and he wasn't in his league. /end thread
Another Kubik-Celestials moment.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Strange admitted ON PANEL he was no match for Thanos and he wasn't in his league. /end thread Are you referring to the part where Strange says that Surfer is the only one that can match him? Or is this something else?

Originally posted by kgkg
Are you referring to the part where Strange says that Surfer is the only one that can match him? Or is this something else?
I guess the writer of that story was under the impression Classic Strange was a mere High Herald or something.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Are we talking about IG wielding Thanos because context is important and even then I doubt its validity because Strange has beaten people stronger then Thanos so of course that would be wrong. He is prob referring to this.. But according to this Surfer has the power to take down Thanos.

He might be referring to something else but I can't recall any other instance of Strange saying that he can't take down Thanos.

Originally posted by long pig
multi versal omniscience who the Watcher asked for advice and info. He was the only person IG Thanos was worried about (which is why he bangished him. If IG thanos was worried about Strange beating him what chance does normal thanos have? Answer: none). When the omnipotent Korvac made a list of those who could beat him, Phoenix was 2, Strange was number one. Thanos was worried about Hulk, Doc ate Mindless Hulk's lunch. Strange has even called upon the phoenix force before. Basically we have a cosmic(Thanos) threat vs a omniversal threat. Thanos Can not beat him. Hell, Thanos can't even try to blitz/quickdraw blast strange because His EOA can react at light speed to intercept both energy attacks and physical attacks. It's a wash. And if you want to bring up bullshit weak feats, I'll show you where spiderman beat Thanos and had him arrested and placed in handcuffs. Thanos wasn't worried about strange at all. Theor defenses were nothing to him the only semi threat was Eternity. I question whether you read the arc at all. I question if you did read it your comprehension skills if you claim Strange was a threat to the ig. No one was save the Lt. The only chance was Thanos subconsciously betraying himself and tricking Nebula because she wasn't as smart as Thanos and didn't see their trick coming.

That isn't canon the spiderman thanos win where he slipped off the grass but strange was beat by doom henchmen in the same ig story you claimed he was a threat to the ig.

Also in marvel's the end Strange admits himself he can't beat Thanos. It's out of his own mouth. Strange is a man who admits his limitations so please believe strange when he says it.

Originally posted by long pig
We have a character who when Eternity was missing, was powerful enough to take his place. I'd research this, but I highly doubt it ever happened so it'd be a waste of time.

Originally posted by long pig
Fought Death by hurling planets at him, He killed himself while growing inside the void left by Eternity... not exactly something he can replicate... ever again. And it's not like he actually threw planets at her either, the planets shot outwards when he killed himself. Killed himself by exposing himself to Death of course.

Originally posted by long pig
negated the I.G twice (once when Thanos tried to banish him and was unable and once when Nebula tried to use it and Doc negated it with two fingers). He negated it for like 5 seconds because she had no idea what she was doing. And he didn't negate Thanos.

Originally posted by long pig
Beat moondragon in mental battle twice, with and without the mind gem. Semi impressive. Even funnier is Strange having an extremely hard time with her though.

Originally posted by long pig
He's taken over dimensions, created and destroyed dimensions. Care to explain the context behind this?

Originally posted by long pig
Dominated inbetweener who stalemated galactus. When has he dominated IB?
Here?
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p10.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p18.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p20.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p23.jpg

Or maybe it's here when he 'beat' IB? Don't worry, I included full context, like a fraction of IB's power almost beating Strange and Strange's heavy help. As well as IB wishing Strange no harm.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-04.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-05.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-06.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-07.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-08.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-09.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-10.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-11.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-12.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-13.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange028-14.jpg

Originally posted by long pig
Can can call on more than one skyfather to fight FOR him. So, not his power? Strange can beat Thanos because Master and Order can beat up Thanos? Makes sense doesn't it?

Originally posted by long pig
Defeated skyfathers who even Odin admits are his equals (Thanos highest showing is almost not losing to Odin isn't it?). ....cont... He's also been dominated by Skyfathers too. Hell, when him and Doom fought Mephisto Doom was the one who actually did any damage to Mephisto. He got swatted like a fly by Gaia. He's been knocked out by Hulk, Namor, Man Thing, Juggernaut, etc.
And most if not all of his wins against higher beings need heavy context to go along with them.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
When has he dominated IB?
Here?
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p10.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p18.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p20.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ROM_41_p23.jpg
Oh yeah; also like to point out that at no point in this fight do LT and IB attack him at once (in fact, LT doesn't attack him at all).

Ha. In your gusto to debate a topic over your head you accidentally posted Strange's highest feat. I'm sure you didn't purposely take those scans out of context, but if was shown IN context you'd see that after Strange beat IB like a child, IB thought Strange was so powerful that he went to the only being he knew who was more powerful than the entities Strange could call on. IB Asked LT to depower Strange and help him fight so he could get revenge for the spanking he got before. Do you see any abstracts begging LT for help to beat Thanos? Checkmate. Close thread.

What gets me is when I post insane feats of power(destroying planets, blasting Thanos's god on her ass) Time manipulation(stopping time world wide, universal. forwaro and backwards and forwards) Mental(mindraping skyfathers, Galactus, moondragon with and without mindgem)molecular transmutation(too many to mention) Spiritual/astral power(soul stealin and destroying. Power stealing. EOA attacks) and ask to see Thanos matching any of them, you thanos nuthuggers start arguing storylines and semantics. STFU AND PROVE THANOS CAN MATCH HIS FEATS and If you can't, don't post, leave the thread and stfu. We've yet to see Thanos feat that is above Surfer.

LOL Strange has fought Death twice once he had to become the Avatar of eternity to beat her and the other time he had to fight Death so that he could stay alive and use his magic to help galactus come back to life. The 2nd time he fought her she basically admitted she was not powerful enough to take Strange.In fact at the end of the issue its even said it was Strange's power that reconstituted Galactus, Silver Surfer, and Nova.

As for him negating the IG yes Nebula did know how it worked since she did return everything to how it was 24 hours earlier including herself. Most of the people weren't effected because Strange was shielding them all from its effects.

As for the fight with the LT ans IB notice that in that fight its shown that the LT is lending its power to the IB so that Strange calling using the power of chaos and order won't work anymore. If you want to see Strange fighting the LT he did that during his most earliest appearances but nothing besides him avoiding being killed. He doesn't summon abstract entities like most of you are assuming he calls on their power which is not a form of help in anyway. Since its explained most entities lend Strange their power because hes SS or have to repay favors hes done for them previously.

If you don't know anything about Strange maybe you shouldn't be posting his feats claiming to understand the context when its still wrong.

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by long pig
I mean, for christ's sake, Strange has beaten the shit out of Thanos's God. Think about that for a second, thanos worships a being that Strange has beaten.

You mean when Mistress Death was preoccupied with the task of preventing Galactus from resurrecting himself? Even after Galactus resurrected himself, his heralds, and Strange, Strange himself admitted that it was in fact Galactus' power that brought them back to life and not his. Hell, Strange couldn't even defeat that space pirate who invaded Galactus' ship during Infinity War and you people are talking as if he used to be more powerful than Galactus and his peers as the Sorcerer Supreme.

Originally posted by long pig
What gets me is when I post insane feats of power(destroying planets, blasting Thanos's god on her ass) Time manipulation(stopping time world wide, universal. forwaro and backwards and forwards) Mental(mindraping skyfathers, Galactus, moondragon with and without mindgem)molecular transmutation(too many to mention) Spiritual/astral power(soul stealin and destroying. Power stealing. EOA attacks) and ask to see Thanos matching any of them, you thanos nuthuggers start arguing storylines and semantics. STFU AND PROVE THANOS CAN MATCH HIS FEATS and If you can't, don't post, leave the thread and stfu. We've yet to see Thanos feat that is above Surfer.

Mindraping Galactus? You mean using Ikonn's spell on a highly weakened and starving Galactus who was about to fall regardless? And how many years ago was that? At least 35.
Thanos' feats are consistently better than Strange' and that is all that matters; ridiculously high-end and low-end feats are useless in debates.

Originally posted by long pig
Where is all these Thanos intelligence feats that are better than Strange's?

Maybe when he became the supreme being in the Marvel through sheer will-power and cunning?

Originally posted by SasuOna
The 2nd time he fought her she basically admitted she was not powerful enough to take Strange.

That's because Strange was granted immortality after passing Death's test.



No such thing was mentioned.

Dr. Strange Sorcerer Supreme 45:

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8885/lolstrangedidntdoshit.jpg

And that's the last page of the issue.



Doesn't change the fact that Warlock still effortlessly crushed Strange while in possession of the Infinity Gauntlet. And take into consideration the fact that Warlock was only utilizing one or two of the Infinity Gems.



Irony.


We have two instances of Strange HIMSELF admitting that he's no match for Thanos ON PANEL. Don't try to claim otherwise by posting ridiculous and retarded high-end feats; writers > you and me.

Originally posted by long pig
Ha. In your gusto to debate a topic over your head you accidentally posted Strange's highest feat. I'm sure you didn't purposely take those scans out of context, but if was shown IN context you'd see that after Strange beat IB like a child, IB thought Strange was so powerful that he went to the only being he knew who was more powerful than the entities Strange could call on. IB Asked LT to depower Strange and help him fight so he could get revenge for the spanking he got before. Do you see any abstracts begging LT for help to beat Thanos? Checkmate. Close thread. you're the one who opened the thread with a thesis statement

you're supposed to prove this stuff without a shadow of a doubt, the fact that anyone can even bring up and argument means you didn't do your job correctly

Strange/Zom alone beats Thanos.

Anyone who can beat Shuma Gorath can beat Thanos.

Hey shoko.

hey there

Originally posted by long pig
Ha. In your gusto to debate a topic over your head you accidentally posted Strange's highest feat. I'm sure you didn't purposely take those scans out of context, but if was shown IN context you'd see that after Strange beat IB like a child, IB thought Strange was so powerful that he went to the only being he knew who was more powerful than the entities Strange could call on. IB Asked LT to depower Strange and help him fight so he could get revenge for the spanking he got before. Do you see any abstracts begging LT for help to beat Thanos? Checkmate. Close thread. ... and then Strange got one shotted by the In-Betweener... Strange's highest feat bro! The guy got one shotted when he got hit... how can Thanos compare?!?!

Also, Strange only beat IB because he called upon Master Order and Lord Chaos (something irrelevant to Thanos), and IB didn't even want to hurt Strange.

Care to prove IB asked LT to depower him? Because that's not what happened, and that's not how LT works... at all. Strange upset the balance and needed to pay, so LT used a lesser being who happened to be IB to exact revenge.

Strange wasn't depowered, he just wasn't allowed to call on Master Order and Lord Chaos, you know, like he wouldn't be allowed to in a forum battle.

IB didn't go beg to LT though, so there's that... if he did, I'm going to need an issue number.

etc, and lol at you talking about context. The whole forum used to think Strange one shotted Galactus thanks to you.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb


etc, and lol at you talking about context. The whole forum used to think Strange one shotted Galactus thanks to you.

heh, i remember seeing that actually back in my first stint on the forum under a different username.

Originally posted by shokosugi
hey there

Originally posted by shokosugi
Anyone who can beat Shuma Gorath can beat Thanos. Context: do you know what it is?

Originally posted by long pig
What gets me is when I post insane feats of power(destroying planets, blasting Thanos's god on her ass) Time manipulation(stopping time world wide, universal. forwaro and backwards and forwards) Mental(mindraping skyfathers, Galactus, moondragon with and without mindgem)molecular transmutation(too many to mention) Spiritual/astral power(soul stealin and destroying. Power stealing. EOA attacks) and ask to see Thanos matching any of them, you thanos nuthuggers start arguing storylines and semantics. STFU AND PROVE THANOS CAN MATCH HIS FEATS and If you can't, don't post, leave the thread and stfu. We've yet to see Thanos feat that is above Surfer. So essentially, you want people to match your out of context respect thread (since you haven't posted anything in this thread)?

We've yet to see any feats really... since no scans have really been posted for either side... so obviously people are going to talk about the feats you think happened while talking about the actual context.
We have seen Thanos smashing the Crimson Bands though here. But I'm not sure that's above Surfer since even Namor has done that, amirite.

Dr Strange was the one who reconstituted all of them. They would have stayed dead without Strange adding his own magic to Galactus' essence so that he could come back to life.

His narration(you know the yellow boxes) at the end basically confirmed that it was him since Nova and Surfer had no idea who brought them all back. Without Strange's power Death would have been able to contain Galactus and keep him dead.

Strange could beat Thanos by using Black Magic quite easily. He could condemn his soul to Sattanish and that would be it for Thanos. He had to use Chaos and Order's power to effect the In betweener but saying that it wouldn't effect Thanos is laughably stupid since hes not immune to abstracts powers in any way.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Context: do you know what it is?

Shuma, Dormammu, In Betweener, Umar, Mephisto etc.....

all of which are more powerful, or equal to Thanos.

Originally posted by long pig
What gets me is when I post insane feats of power(destroying planets, blasting Thanos's god on her ass) Time manipulation(stopping time world wide, universal. forwaro and backwards and forwards) Mental(mindraping skyfathers, Galactus, moondragon with and without mindgem)molecular transmutation(too many to mention) Spiritual/astral power(soul stealin and destroying. Power stealing. EOA attacks) and ask to see Thanos matching any of them, you thanos nuthuggers start arguing storylines and semantics. STFU AND PROVE THANOS CAN MATCH HIS FEATS and If you can't, don't post, leave the thread and stfu. We've yet to see Thanos feat that is above Surfer. You've been here all these years and you're under the assumption that feats trum pactual comparisons.

By this logic the guy with more appearances will always win.

Also, it's asinine for another reason. If surfer beats someone who's really powerful how can you prove Thanos can't ? You can't but you have the audacity to claim surfer is superior to Thanos. It makes no sense.

I have used strange in the same story as Thanos and Thanos fared far better. You have been decimated in this thread and your context exposed.

Thanos wins, easily.

Thanos can't even handle a speedster what's he going to do against a uber time manipulator like Strange?

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Originally posted by SasuOna
Strange could beat Thanos by using Black Magic quite easily. He could condemn his soul to Sattanish and that would be it for Thanos. He had to use Chaos and Order's power to effect the In betweener but saying that it wouldn't effect Thanos is laughably stupid since hes not immune to abstracts powers in any way. Condemn his soul to Sattanish? That sounds like not only a surefire tactic, but a legitimate one too that involves no outside help at all!

Only because Chaos and Order were pissed at In-Betweener, pretty sure that was explained.
Also this:
http://i51.tinypic.com/5wl668.jpg

Not sure why that would be relevant to Thanos is all I was saying.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Dr Strange was the one who reconstituted all of them. They would have stayed dead without Strange adding his own magic to Galactus' essence so that he could come back to life.

It was Galactus and Galactus alone who reconstituted everyone that was killed by the Magus then. All Strange managed to do was delay Mistress Death in order to buy time for Galactus.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8885/lolstrangedidntdoshit.jpg

Silver Surfer: Was it -- Galactus's power that saved us -- reassembled us?
Nova: What else?
Strange (thinking): What else indeed?

Even Strange knew it.

This is strengthened by the Magus' comment here in this scan.

Magus: Yes, my worries were groundless. Reincorporation begins. Galactus is truly a power to be reckoned with.



"What else indeed" = Strange, in his own mind, agreeing with the Silver Surfer and Nova on the matter that it was indeed Galactus' power that resurrected everyone who had been destroyed by the Cosmic Cubes. Strange just bought some time for Galactus and nothing more.

I know you may not know anything about grammar and punctuation but the placement of a question mark at the end of phrase is meant to show a question being asked not a statement.

What else indeed? with a smirk
Equals Strange conceding that it was Galactus who brought them all back under his own power?
No that wouldn't be true at all since Death in the same issue basically said it was Strange who brought Galactus back to life by holding his essence together allowing him a chance to live in the first place.
http://i.imgur.com/LmAKL.jpg

Strange isn't dead or in need of being reconstituted. when the battle with Death began we saw what state Nova,Surfer, and Galactus were in. All Galactus managed to do was reconstitute himself, his ship and Nova and Surfer but none of that would be possible if it wasn't for Strange powering Galactus in the first place. What else indeed.

SasuOna is right.

TheTyrant you're a d1ck.

Thanos wins.. and easily

Strange made Galactus feel all the pain he's inflicted on others, i wonder what that'd do to Thanos with all the trillions of beings he's killed. I keep seeing Thanos fanboys say he wins, but they can't seen to be able to say how. They definatly can't say how he'd deal with all the skyfather's power he can call on or time manip or.......well, anything but how he wins. They can't bare to admit Strange is two or three tiers above Thanos, who powerwise is mid herald and could lose to people below surfer.