Thanos vs Infinity Man

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keiththegreat
Who wins this one? Fight takes place on the Moon.

Warlord
Thanos

Galan007
Source agent IM wins.

Classic IM probably wins as well, but it's a better fight.

Nihilist
Thanos beats classic Infinity Man.

Omega Vision
Infinity Man ftw.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Galan007
Source agent IM wins.

Classic IM probably wins as well, but it's a better fight.

TricksterPriest
Infinity Man has an extremely broken powerset. And those infinity beams hurt.

The only person who's got clean wins on Infinity Man is his brother.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Infinity Man has an extremely broken powerset. And those infinity beams hurt.

The only person who's got clean wins on Infinity Man is his brother.
And he beat him by targeting the Forever People.

TricksterPriest
That's not the only time he's beaten him outright. But yeah, he's one of the few people who can break the Infinity Man gestalt.

Galan007
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's not the only time he's beaten him outright. But yeah, he's one of the few people the only person who has ever broken the Infinity Man gestalt. Fixed.

Never the less, as of Superman Confidential (a retelling of Superman's first encounter with the New Gods) classic IM can -casually- block Darkseid's omega beams.

The most current info = the most canonical. smile

TricksterPriest
Word. Though, he has gotten ROFLPWNed by the Omega Effect. And Darkseid has physically manhandled him.

Galan007
Yup, WAY back in the day before Darkseid started ordering his food with a side of weaksauce.

More current/pre-FC Darkseid would get his shit kicked in, though... As would Thanos.

TricksterPriest
There's no separation between DS and PC DS. And IM has been shit-canned by him post-crisis as well as pre.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/135/a/b/ANTI_LIFE_JUSTIFIES_MY_HATE_by_timdunn.png

Omega Vision
^If we don't separate them out then we have the monumental chore of explaining why Darkseid dropped one or two tiers after COIE.

About two years ago I also argued that BS, but there came a time when I realized it was just that: BS.

TricksterPriest
But that's the point! He never dropped to begin with.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
But that's the point! He never dropped to begin with.
His showings after COIE in general have been well below those prior to COIE.

If Post Crisis and Pre Crisis were one in the same then every fight between Darkseid and Superman would have ended with Superman getting his S royally handed to him.

PC DS at his best was High Skyfather-Elder God. Post Crisis Darkseid has a few Skyfather level showings with most of his appearances putting him around Trans.

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by Omega Vision
His showings after COIE in general have been well below those prior to COIE.

If Post Crisis and Pre Crisis were one in the same then every fight between Darkseid and Superman would have ended with Superman getting his S royally handed to him.

PC DS at his best was High Skyfather-Elder God. Post Crisis Darkseid has a few Skyfather level showings with most of his appearances putting him around Trans.

Avatars. And He has handed Superman his ass to him on more than one occasion. Supes has only one clean win over Darkseid. Apokolips Now, a PIS piece of shit story. He's skyfather with feats above his tier. He's more powerful than Odin.

We saw the real Darkseid in FC. That's what we saw in PC.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Avatars. And He has handed Superman his ass to him on more than one occasion. Supes has only one clean win over Darkseid. Apokolips Now, a PIS piece of shit story. He's skyfather with feats above his tier. He's more powerful than Odin.

We saw the real Darkseid in FC. That's what we saw in PC.
I also used to pull the Avatar excuse. The problem is that basically every showing of Darkseid's Post Crisis was retconned to being an Avatar, to the point that Post Crisis Darkseid=Darkseid's Avatar(s).

TricksterPriest

iceman24567
Infinity Man ftw

-K-M-
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The only person who's got clean wins on Infinity Man is his brother.

Mantis.

quanchi112
Thanos wins.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I also used to pull the Avatar excuse. The problem is that basically every showing of Darkseid's Post Crisis was retconned to being an Avatar, to the point that Post Crisis Darkseid=Darkseid's Avatar(s). Which means the REAL Darkseid has little to no feats post crisis basically

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by -K-M-
Mantis.

Ah. Forgot about him. thank you Mungi. thumb up But that doesn't help Thanos, considering Mantis would stomp him too.

Iceman: If so many shitty writers hadn't lowballed him, this wouldn't be necessary. Besides, as Nvr and I both said, they spelled this out a LOT in New God stories.

Endless Mike
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ah. Forgot about him. thank you Mungi. But that doesn't help Thanos, considering Mantis would stomp him too.

Pre-Crisis Mantis might give Thanos a bit of trouble but otherwise Thanos wins

TricksterPriest
...............I don't see Thanos beating him. Mantis drains energy like a leech. He's got the capacity to absorb all of Thanos's energy and throw it right back at him.

Nihilist
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
...............I don't see Thanos beating him. Mantis drains energy like a leech. He's got the capacity to absorb all of Thanos's energy and throw it right back at him. Thanos has a limitless supply of energy/power reserve to draw upon.

Galan007
Originally posted by -K-M-
Mantis. I seem to remember IM coming back and tooling Mantis with a single blast... mmm

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos has a limitless supply of energy/power reserve to draw upon. Infinity Man has drained bigger. He's held off the entire LOSH.

Galan: Indeed, he did tool Mantis. But he lost the first battle.

Nihilist
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Infinity Man has drained bigger. He's held off the entire LOSH.

Galan: Indeed, he did tool Mantis. But he lost the first battle. laughing out loud at draining a INFINITE supply of energy.

TricksterPriest
He's done it before. srug

Nihilist
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's done it before. srug Against a supply that is cosmic and dark accult/death magic in nature?

Galan007
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Galan: But he lost the first battle. You really think it was that cut and dry?

Here's the whole scene:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4628/im1d.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1438/im2v.jpg
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/1773/im3u.jpg
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3213/im4hl.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2258/im5z.jpg

I see IM beginning to physically wreck Mantis. I see Mantis use a sneak attack in which he was able to momentarily contain IM. Then I see IM break free of Mantis' prison, and blast him a single time ftw. /shrug

Heck, IM wasn't even fazed by Mantis' "star system-shattering" anti-matter touch.

TricksterPriest
Mantis eats energy like a crackhead eats crack.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t480775.html
He's jacked Dr. Fate's powers no problem.

PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos has a limitless supply of energy/power reserve to draw upon.

Is there an energy manipulator in comics that doesn't have a limitless supply of energy to draw upon?

Galan007
Yeah, Firestorm also has a limitless supply of energy to draw from... Doesn't mean he's unbeatable. Quite the contrary, in fact.

Nihilist
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, Firestorm also has a limitless supply of energy to draw from... Doesn't mean he's unbeatable. Quite the contrary, in fact. Who says Thanos is unbeatable because he has a infinte supply? just that draining is great option to use.

Galan007
^ So you don't think it's possible that Thanos can be drained -faster- than he can pull energy from his 'infinite' supply?

Nihilist
Originally posted by Galan007
^ So you don't think it's possible that Thanos can be drained -faster- than he can pull energy from his 'infinite' supply? No, as he already has a vast energy power reserve to start with and can then also draw energy from various sources if needed.

Galan007
^ Same can be said about Mantis.

Also keep in mind that the Infini-Beam doesn't just force the entirety of one's energies to disperse, nigh-instantly -- it also renders said individual unable to control their energies.

Nihilist
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Same can be said about Mantis.

Also keep in mind that the Infini-Beam doesn't just force the entirety of one's energies to disperse, nigh-instantly -- it also renders said individual unable to control their energies.
But nothing like as great as Thanos though.
Why are you talking about IM's beams when my post was about Mantis draining Thanos?

Few things, imo Thanos forcefield would stop IM's beams and who has the beams worked on that are worthy of note.

Galan007
^ The infini-beam completely drained classic Mantis and rendered him unable to control his powers:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3213/im4hl.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2258/im5z.jpg

To learn more about classic Mantis, click here.

Nihilist
Originally posted by Galan007
^ The infini-beam completely drained classic Mantis and rendered him unable to control his powers:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3213/im4hl.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2258/im5z.jpg
Thanos still has other power that dont need energy to function.
Not clicking a Rick Ashley link again.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos still has other power that dont need energy to function.
Not clicking a Rick Ashley link again.
erm

Even his 'power' to talk in the Third Person needs energy.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Galan007
I seem to remember IM coming back and tooling Mantis with a single blast... mmm

Naaa they went physically toe to toe and then he hit him with a beam that caused Mantis to release his stored energy so Mantis left.

SquallX
Originally posted by Omega Vision
erm

Even his 'power' to talk in the Third Person needs energy.

laughing

Endless Mike
Thanos can drain energy too, you know.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Thanos can drain energy too, you know.
Has he done it to anyone notable?

Mantis did it to PC Green Lantern (rather easily too), PC Fate, and Martian Manhunter.

KuRuPT Thanosi
So are the best people IM has beat one v one without an amp from the source.

Endless Mike
He did it to an IG - created copy of himself that was just as strong as he is

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